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0Hero
23rd January 2005, 6:42 PM
Has anyone read it? I just started and am on the first volume and at chapter 7. It is so cool.

Da Games Elite
23rd January 2005, 9:40 PM
Has anyone read it? I just started and am on the first volume and at chapter 7. It is so cool.
It gets much better after volume 1. Then you see *very small spoilers* Zabuza and Haku *very small spoilers*

White Infinity
24th January 2005, 12:52 PM
Yeah, I started getting into last year. Originally, though, it was one of the series that I was avoiding because it didn't sound that interesting and some of the pictures of Naruto seemed kind of ugly. After reading it though, I've really gotten to like it.
Its going to be a pretty long series. Part 1 of Naruto, ended a little while ago in Japan and it was still 28 or so Volumes.

0Hero
25th January 2005, 12:32 AM
I'm on the fourth volume. Read the Haku and Zabazu part, and Haku looks like a girl to me! I have a question, I am going to get some Naruto episodes soon, are the manga exactly the same as the anime?

Riaf
25th January 2005, 1:12 AM
I think so but you might find some fillers.

0Hero
25th January 2005, 3:42 AM
I think so but you might find some fillers.
Ah I see, well thanks for the info.

Kokukirin
25th January 2005, 6:04 AM
Naruto has decent start, ok story, and gets more boring every week.

I just dont feel like reading 4 weeks of fight between 2 random newbies that arent even important in the story.

Riaf
25th January 2005, 9:38 PM
And where's that revelant in Naruto?

And the quote that Kakashi makes about Naruto and Sasuke at the end of the third volume? The one were he says something like " They can't turn thier hearts into ice to take a human life"? What's the direct quote? I can't find my manga...

Hakuryuu-chan
26th January 2005, 3:01 AM
I have the first two volumes, and been meaning to get more, but I've been lazy. >> But I like Naruto. It is good and all, but there are too many characters, which gets a little confusing after a while.

White Infinity
26th January 2005, 7:08 AM
Well, as for too many characters, more will just keep showing up.

What's everyone's favorite characters?
My favorites would be Naruto, Shikamaru, Temari, and the Hyuugas.

Riaf
26th January 2005, 10:31 PM
Naruto just plain rocks. He acts nearly the same as me and continues to make me smile every panel.

Kyuubi-Kun
26th January 2005, 11:18 PM
Wait 'til the next 3-4 arcs. It gets better.

majinveggito
27th January 2005, 1:49 AM
I'm stuck on chapter 244, still waiting for the new chapters. The Kakashi gaiden series was okay, and gave everyone an insight into the life of kakashi and how he got that sharingan eye. But I'm looking forward to the 3 yr time skip, and see everyone older.

Riaf
28th January 2005, 12:45 AM
I heard the series is going downhill lately. Is that true?

Kokukirin
28th January 2005, 4:21 AM
I heard the series is going downhill lately. Is that true?
Yes it is.

The "Kakashi arc" was quite a disappointment. It could have been a bit longer instead of rushing through everything in like 4 chapters only. The 60~80 chapters before that is just a series of battles between random people and the story didnt move on at all.

Riaf
28th January 2005, 4:46 AM
Does it get bad after the Journeyman Ninja Selection Exams?

Kyuubi-Kun
28th January 2005, 7:50 AM
Does it get bad after the Journeyman Ninja Selection Exams? To quote what I said in my last post, It gets better. The Chuunin Exam is a reeeeaally long saga. It has very enjoyable matches, but the current arc now, IMO, seems better. It's more of a dark plotline that kinda takes the goodness outta you.

w00t! I'm a Spike Shell Trainer now! And on my b-day too!

White Infinity
28th January 2005, 10:33 AM
Well, I think it gets better.
As for the series of battles that took place before Kakashi Gaiden, while the story didn't particularly progress, there was character development. Though, I suppose it was a bit dragged out and you already knew of their Cursed Seals.

Also, chapter 245(Naruto Part 2) is is out.

BluekiKatana
28th January 2005, 3:30 PM
Is it just me or do you guys think Shonen Jump is HARDCORE LAZY when it comes to publishing new Naruto manga? They publish one like every season literally.
The newest one is the 5th one if i'm not mistaken. That one came out in Dec and the next one is coming out in April, come on = / thats so slow.

majinveggito
28th January 2005, 4:23 PM
Well, chapter 245 has already come out and gets back on track with the storyline. I'm not too sure why people are complaining but the characters have changed a little since the time skip (2.5-3 years of training will do that).

BluekiKatana
28th January 2005, 5:46 PM
Well, chapter 245 has already come out and gets back on track with the storyline. I'm not too sure why people are complaining but the characters have changed a little since the time skip (2.5-3 years of training will do that).

Are you guys talking about Japanese Naruto or something? Because I can only buy up to the 5th Naruto Manga in english.

White Infinity
28th January 2005, 5:59 PM
Yes, we're talking of the Japanese Naruto. There up to Volume 28/29, so it will be a while for the English one to catch up.

Kyuubi-Kun
29th January 2005, 2:13 AM
I'm not complaining! Personally, Naruto and Sakura look waaay better.

Black Angel
29th January 2005, 2:59 AM
Anyone have any pics of Naruto, Sakura and Sasuke after the time skip?

Riaf
29th January 2005, 4:34 AM
Yeah because I'm kinda interested in seeing them myself.

Little_Pikachu
29th January 2005, 4:56 AM
These are taken right from the newest manga, if you don't want it spoiled, don't look!
Older Sasuke hasn't been introduced yet.
EDIT: To make life easier, I'll just attach them.
Here's Naruto...

Little_Pikachu
29th January 2005, 5:00 AM
And Sakura. They didn't change much, did they?

Riaf
29th January 2005, 7:38 AM
They're drawn rather odd. Is there a different artist for the newest volumes?

Kokukirin
29th January 2005, 8:28 AM
its the same one obviously.

azulflames
29th January 2005, 3:19 PM
Yeah, I started getting into last year. Originally, though, it was one of the series that I was avoiding because it didn't sound that interesting and some of the pictures of Naruto seemed kind of ugly. After reading it though, I've really gotten to like it.
Its going to be a pretty long series. Part 1 of Naruto, ended a little while ago in Japan and it was still 28 or so Volumes.

and yet we only have 4 so far...

Riaf
29th January 2005, 6:35 PM
I like the drawings in the previous volumes better, though. Those drawings inspired me.

majinveggito
29th January 2005, 7:03 PM
Naruto and Sakura haven't changed, but here's a comparison to see what slight changes were made.

Sakura
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v362/ssjsuperveggito/sakback.jpg

Naruto
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v362/ssjsuperveggito/narback.jpg

Riaf
29th January 2005, 8:55 PM
They look better when they where younger, IMO. And are they still Genin class ninja?

Eon Chao
31st January 2005, 12:21 AM
To be honest I'm not entirely sure. Nothings been said yet however Kakashi has said that the three of them will be working together as equals not as teachers and students

I can't wait to see how sasuke's changed.

Next Issue is the bell training exercise from volume 1 but with the now more mature naruto and sakura. (I also wonder what new techniques Tsunade and Jiraiya have taught them)

Riaf
31st January 2005, 4:13 AM
Mature Naruto...yeah, right. Like that'll ever happen.

Eon Chao
31st January 2005, 11:56 AM
Ok your right, he hasn't matured, to quote Naruto from the fan translation I read on the subject of the Sexy no Jutsu "Such a Jutsu is now mediocre Konohamaru! Behold! The new perverted Ninjutsu I've been developing! Here we gooooooo!" However Sakura took him out before he could show it so we're still waiting on it

Riaf
31st January 2005, 9:24 PM
Sometimes Naruto scares me.

Eon Chao
3rd February 2005, 7:21 PM
Well I just flicked through chapter 246 in its raw japanese form so I can't say much about the dialogue, however from what I've seen Naruto manages to take Kakashi's back in a training exercise in a nice homage to that first training session they had back way before the zabuza arc and Sakura has gone uber! Shes now really strong

majinveggito
3rd February 2005, 8:37 PM
Just caught the 246 raw chapter and I have to say it's pretty good. Sakura manages to pull off one of tsunades moves (appears stronger) and naruto show cases his abilities as well. At least they got the bell this time around and Kakashi being caught off guard! Didn't see that one coming....

0Hero
6th February 2005, 4:34 AM
I've decided to stop reading the manga till I have seen the episodes, because they are just so cool in colour, with music......etc.

majinveggito
6th February 2005, 4:40 AM
I've decided to stop reading the manga till I have seen the episodes, because they are just so cool in colour, with music......etc.


Cool, I wish I had as much discipline as you, I'm a sucker for spoilers.

Alchemist
6th February 2005, 4:53 AM
Ahhh. It's a newfound obsession for me. Just bought the first 5 manga. :D

majinveggito
6th February 2005, 5:20 AM
Ahhh. It's a newfound obsession for me. Just bought the first 5 manga. :D

Wow, really. I never thought of buying the manga. Had them on my pc for over a year (hmmm...said too much)

Alchemist
6th February 2005, 6:07 AM
You mean you downloaded it somewhere?

Juputoru
6th February 2005, 3:16 PM
and yet we only have 4 so far...
Of course, we get new chapters once a month whereas Japan gets them every week...

Anyway, Naruto is awesome, but Viz's translation doesn't do it justice(why do they have to rename the attacks?! The choices they make for nickname translations aren't very good, and their names for the ranks are stupid. That's actually my only gripe with them, but what they do to those things is so STUPID that I have to hate 'em for it) - the fan translations(coughInane'scough) are much better. Of course, the anime is even BETTER than the manga(seriously, just comparing the point in the Chuunin Exam arc that SJ is at, I can name at least 4 things that are better.) Here's hoping that a good dubber(ie. anyone other than 4Kids) gets it.

Riaf
6th February 2005, 4:24 PM
What's wrong with Viz's translation? Because of mis-naming the attacks? It's still meaing the same thing( don't use Sexy No Justu on me, that was something to change). And what's the difference between the anime and manga? The anime's only drawn differently and has censored down the gory stuff.

majinveggito
6th February 2005, 4:52 PM
You mean you downloaded it somewhere?


yep, their's a couple (different versions) translated naruto mangas out there. I have 246 chapters so far. And there pretty good quality. I've never read the viz translation so I can't comment on their version.

Kyuubi-Kun
6th February 2005, 9:00 PM
What's wrong with Viz's translation? Because of mis-naming the attacks? It's still meaing the same thing( don't use Sexy No Justu on me, that was something to change). And what's the difference between the anime and manga? The anime's only drawn differently and has censored down the gory stuff. Other than having complicating understanding dialogue, some techniques are translated weird. Byakugan was changed to "The Evil Eye" which doesn't make sense. It's supposed to be the White Eye which gives the user 360° vision. If they can say Sharingan, they can most definitely say Byakugan. One of Anko's Technique was called "Twin Snakes Kill Each Other" which sounds odd. A lot of techniques have odd names now. Art of Me and My Shadow, Art of the Shadow Doppelganger - I can understand this one but later on Hokage uses this tecnique with shuriken and shurikens don't sound like doppelgangers. I hope they don't mess up Rasengan or Chidori, odd are they might.

A lot of things in the manga are different then the anime. Neji's mark on the forehead is more like a manji while the anime just has an "x." There was no Idate in the manga, that part was just filler so the manga can go further ahead a bit. Kimimaro's appearance changed a bit from the manga.

Eon Chao
6th February 2005, 9:35 PM
Well although I am downloading the manga as it gets fan translated I am also buying the viz version which kinda makes it a little better. However being at uni I don't have the room on my laptop for the episodes and my dvd writers knackered so the anime will have to wait.

majinveggito
6th February 2005, 11:17 PM
Well although I am downloading the manga as it gets fan translated I am also buying the viz version which kinda makes it a little better. However being at uni I don't have the room on my laptop for the episodes and my dvd writers knackered so the anime will have to wait.


Yeah, that sucks, I bought a new PC just with about 400Gigs of space to store my Naruto and Bleach episodes. My previous pc just couldn't handle the stress. And while I do burn some of the episodes on DVD, I'm a bit lazy and just leave it on my hard drive unless a friend wants me to burn a copy.

Alchemist
6th February 2005, 11:23 PM
I need a new computer. It came out 6 years ago. But, it just can't hold all the data. :(

majinveggito
11th February 2005, 1:20 AM
I need a new computer. It came out 6 years ago. But, it just can't hold all the data. :(

You mean your computer? I've gone through 4 computers in that time span. I don't upgrade, I just buy a newer model. You could buy an external hard drive, to store your anime episodes (but don't buy Western Digital external drives, I feel totally ripped off, crashed a few days later and I lost 80 gigs worth of data).

Also, my friends are really into Naruto, but one of them doesn't have a PC or a DVD player so, I would record episodes on VHS for him (a real tedious task). I have naruto episodes as both bootleg DVD (purchased) and downloaded episodes (via bittorrent).



Naruto DVD Boxsets:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v362/ssjsuperveggito/IMG_0102.jpg

0Hero
11th February 2005, 2:00 AM
Wow........you're lucky majinveggito, how much did each one cost you, roughly?

I saw some Naruto DVDs, but they were $18 each canadian, but I didn't know if that was a good price.

majinveggito
11th February 2005, 5:39 PM
Wow........you're lucky majinveggito, how much did each one cost you, roughly?

I saw some Naruto DVDs, but they were $18 each canadian, but I didn't know if that was a good price.


Cost me $29.99 each, (alot I know, roughly 12 episodes per box set, except for the 1st one which had 21 epsiodes) I'm currently at 106 episodes on the box sets (while I have every episode on my harddrive 1-121). If you're low on cash downloads are your friends and the subbs are generally better.

flareofdragon
12th February 2005, 12:17 AM
I personally like the manga better because I found the anime distasteful with the coloring. However, considering that I have only seen it through 60 only, I could be sorely mistaken.

majinveggito
12th February 2005, 12:30 AM
I personally like the manga better because I found the anime distasteful with the coloring. However, considering that I have only seen it through 60 only, I could be sorely mistaken.


Ummh....Well, I like the anime more, but I have to admit the animation quality has gone down recently (episode 108 and up), I also seen earlier episodes that weren't that great (animation wise), but I still prefer to watch the anime, because tha manga can only show so much.

Nagashi
12th February 2005, 12:35 AM
W00T for the manga! ^.^

I'm on chapter 247 right now, and Gaara as Kazekage PWNS!. That was a suprise, didn't see that coming.

flareofdragon
12th February 2005, 12:51 AM
see my problem with the anime is that they seem to have too many filler episodes. However, you do get more informations and stuff.

Anyway I like the Naruto vs. Sasuke battle. It wasn't as predictful as the others, or thats what I thought.

majinveggito
12th February 2005, 1:25 AM
see my problem with the anime is that they seem to have too many filler episodes. However, you do get more informations and stuff.

Anyway I like the Naruto vs. Sasuke battle. It wasn't as predictful as the others, or thats what I thought.

You mean in the anime? (episode 107) That was one of my favorite episodes. The 2nd fight(manga) between the naruto and sasuke was even more intense.

flareofdragon
12th February 2005, 2:35 AM
Yup, it was pretty cool. I also liked Gaara's fight. That one was massive with a lot of cool abilities and the philosophy that was shown seems really good. Anyway, have you read Kakashi's Gaiden? I don't know if that is coming to anime. =\

Kyuubi-Kun
12th February 2005, 3:44 AM
The Gaiden chapters are most definitely coming to the anime. They'd never do that. Plus, they can't go farther ahead of the manga so producing the Gaiden will help a bit. Besides, we all wanna see the Kakashi story in full animated detail!

flareofdragon
12th February 2005, 7:15 PM
aww.. another cool episode I won't be able to see.

And I have figured out the weakness of Kakashi. He cannot deactivate the sharingan (this really shouldn't be a spoiler, cause I for one have never seen it in an episode or manga). vv' sorry if it is old.

majinveggito
12th February 2005, 7:41 PM
W00T for the manga! ^.^

I'm on chapter 247 right now, and Gaara as Kazekage PWNS!. That was a suprise, didn't see that coming.


Yeah I totally can't believe that Neji and Temari are already Jounin and everyone but Naruto (and Sasuke I'm asuuming) are already Chuunin.

Alchemist
12th February 2005, 8:34 PM
I'm not reading the spoilers. No way. WHere do you download them though?

majinveggito
12th February 2005, 11:16 PM
I'm not reading the spoilers. No way. WHere do you download them though?


Here's the link:

http://narutofan.com/index.php/content-multimedia,manga

~Enjoy~

flareofdragon
13th February 2005, 1:21 AM
Yeah I totally can't believe that Neji and Temari are already Jounin and everyone but Naruto (and Sasuke I'm asuuming) are already Chuunin.

I am actually assuming he did, seeing as how they said that among the rookie nine, you are the only one that is a genin. I wonder how Hinata made it though...

Totodilemew
13th February 2005, 3:19 AM
I am actually assuming he did, seeing as how they said that among the rookie nine, you are the only one that is a genin. I wonder how Hinata made it though...
Hinata's a strong girl. A weaker form of Neji. I'd be more concerned about Chouji...How the heck did he make it?

Eon Chao
13th February 2005, 2:18 PM
What Choji has the potential to become great. He has the pills which I can see him using again at some point plus after the Sasuke betrayel I can see him training heavily. I can't wait to see where this is going and Gaara as Kazekage rocks

flareofdragon
13th February 2005, 4:42 PM
What Choji has the potential to become great. He has the pills which I can see him using again at some point plus after the Sasuke betrayel I can see him training heavily. I can't wait to see where this is going and Gaara as Kazekage rocks
Oh I know Hinata is a strong girl, and her promise to make herself better... but I wonder how she made it you know? Like her story of the chuunin exam. Chouji isn't a bad fighter... but Ino... that one confuses me... she is a very special in a team but how did she make chuunin?

too many spoiler tags.

Michuru81
15th February 2005, 3:18 PM
So, those of you who are up to date... any predictions on what is coming? This one thinks it is very obvious that Naruto is going to be taking this new exam, but did not Kakashi explain you need a three-man team to take it? Shikimaru only said Neji made it; he said nothing about Tenten and Rock Lee. Maybe they will team up with Naruto and blow through until bumping into a disguised Sasuke? Any thoughts?

flareofdragon
16th February 2005, 12:35 AM
So, those of you who are up to date... any predictions on what is coming? This one thinks it is very obvious that Naruto is going to be taking this new exam, but did not Kakashi explain you need a three-man team to take it? Shikimaru only said Neji made it; he said nothing about Tenten and Rock Lee. Maybe they will team up with Naruto and blow through until bumping into a disguised Sasuke? Any thoughts?


Well now that Naruto is 'special' maybe there will be a special condition where he takes the exam alone. Tenten and Lee are better than most of the Rookie nine, so I am doubting that they didn't pass. Thus, he will probably have to team up with konohamaru or something.

Michuru81
17th February 2005, 12:24 AM
Well now that Naruto is 'special' maybe there will be a special condition where he takes the exam alone. Tenten and Lee are better than most of the Rookie nine, so I am doubting that they didn't pass. Thus, he will probably have to team up with konohamaru or something.


See, the way that I see it is that the exam was testing a lot of things. Only Shikimaru passed first time. Not Neji for how good he is supposed to be. Not Gaara or Sasuke or Naruto. Just Shikimaru, and he lost. What do Tenten and Rock Lee actually bring to the table? Combat. So far, neither has ever shown themselves capable of doing much besides being an asset in combat situations. As much as I hate the guy, Neji really is better than the both of them in so many areas. It's possible that the examiners saw that and passed him, but not his team mates.

I've seen a lot of theories about Konohamaru, but that still leaves one and wouldn't Konohamaru go through with the other two in his cell? Besides, look at chapter 245. Konohamaru is wearing goggles- not a headband. It's doubtful he's even made it to Genin yet.

0Hero
18th February 2005, 3:13 AM
Will the Naruto manga be affected in anyway because of the licencing?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I MADE YOU LOOK SUCKER! STOP THE SPOILER TAGS!!

Riaf
18th February 2005, 3:48 AM
Sooner or later.

flareofdragon
18th February 2005, 4:03 AM
See, the way that I see it is that the exam was testing a lot of things. Only Shikimaru passed first time. Not Neji for how good he is supposed to be. Not Gaara or Sasuke or Naruto. Just Shikimaru, and he lost. What do Tenten and Rock Lee actually bring to the table? Combat. So far, neither has ever shown themselves capable of doing much besides being an asset in combat situations. As much as I hate the guy, Neji really is better than the both of them in so many areas. It's possible that the examiners saw that and passed him, but not his team mates.

I've seen a lot of theories about Konohamaru, but that still leaves one and wouldn't Konohamaru go through with the other two in his cell? Besides, look at chapter 245. Konohamaru is wearing goggles- not a headband. It's doubtful he's even made it to Genin yet.

ah didn't notice that. Thanks for pointing that out. However, Tenten seems to be highly intelligent on combat situations. She seems to be a veteran, which alone could make one a chuunin, so she has a lot of experience and her fighting style shows that she has very good control of her chakra.

I highly doubt Rock Lee would not have made chuunin. He seems too ambitious and hard working. I would be surprised if he let Neji get ahead of him that much.

Neji is a genius, he knows how the opponent thinks, can cover his own weakness, basically a cool guy, so I would have been surprised if his rank was anything lower. Considering the Kakashi Arc and everything....

Also may I bring up the point that every one of the leaf genins that made it to the preliminaries would probably have made chuunin if some of the situation had not arisen.

sorry, just don't want to spoil it for everybody. For the translation, I really hope that they do not let Ino's Jutsu be "Valentine's Special" or something. Really, really bad name because they named a technique based on the personality of the user when it was a family technique.

Kyuubi-Kun
19th February 2005, 7:59 AM
Will the Naruto manga be affected in anyway because of the licencing?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I MADE YOU LOOK SUCKER! STOP THE SPOILER TAGS!! I don't think so. The manga has been licensed over two years now from Viz and the new chapters kept coming right after.

Alchemist
20th February 2005, 6:18 AM
No probably not, as chapter 247 is up and pretty much the same.

Riaf
9th March 2005, 9:20 PM
I've got a question how did Sakura pass her test? Naruto and Sasuke were needed to pass it.Maybe she teamed up with someone...?

HK
9th March 2005, 9:43 PM
Meh, I know that this discussion has gotten pretty far, but I have to get into now, espicially after the forums were down like they were. @.@


I've got a question how did Sakura pass her test? Naruto and Sasuke were needed to pass it.Maybe she teamed up with someone...?

More than likely. Although which team, I don't really know. Everyone else had all of their team together, and Lee had recovered from the surgery quite well, so I am guessing that she probably teamed up with somebody.

Personally, I'm more interested to see how they are going to do with Naruto's ranking as a Genin still. He is way too damn powerful to take it, so it might be possible that if this recent mission with gathering information about Gaara's abduction goes well, he could be promoted to Chuunin.

As a side note, I hate it when people ***** about how Kishimoto is dealing with Part 2 of Naruto so far. Honestly, some things of what they say are completely ridiculous...

Riaf
9th March 2005, 9:52 PM
Meaning the Kakashi Saga? Well, I thought it was a good look into his past. Some people usually think carefully as they post about it and sound quite unreliable.

HK
9th March 2005, 10:00 PM
Meaning the Kakashi Saga? Well, I thought it was a good look into his past. Some people usually think carefully as they post about it and sound quite unreliable.

Well, not exactly. I mean a helluva lot of people are complaining about how he is introducing some of the characters, and from what I have seen, some of the shippers of Naruto are nearing war without each other. @.@ Certain comments like:

'I'll kill myself if Hinate doesn't show up in the next chapter'.

'When Sasuke shows up again, Sakura will still love him!'

'Neji is still an *** who hasn't grown up at all. Incest is nasty.'

'Naruto and Sakura shot hit the bed and have hot smex! You can see it in their eyes!'

'Sasuke won't die in the end. If he does, where can Kishimoto go from there?!'

'Naruto is just a whiny little *****. He takes away the spotlight from Sasuke so much.'

o.0 Some of the comments... dear god. Personally, the ones that bother me the most are Sasuke ones... and other miscellanous Hinata ones. They treat her like she is a main character, not a freakin' secondary character who moved the Naruto and Neji fight forward. -.-

Others don't bother me that much. I personally like the idea of Naruto and Sakura getting together, and Neji isn't the same guy who hates the Main House anymore. Those I can ignore, because they just hate the characters or whatever. Meh, I rant too much myself. :p

Edit- BTW, the Kakashi's Gaiden was one of my favorite sagas, and it was only... about six or so chapters? But it was nice looking into how Kakashi got the Sharigan Eye, and also about the people he lost. Although one thing still bothers me. What happened to Rin? Because she doesn't show up at all before that, and she was still alive after the ordeal with the war, or at least at the end of Kakashi's Gaiden.

Riaf
11th March 2005, 3:15 AM
Didn't Kakashi say to Sasuke that his true friends had died? So Rin may have died from another mishap.

But I think that the only thing bad about Naruto is the artwork. I LOVED the original arrtwork a lot better than the current one so I'm greatly disappointed by that.

HK
14th March 2005, 11:33 PM
Didn't Kakashi say to Sasuke that his true friends had died? So Rin may have died from another mishap.

But I think that the only thing bad about Naruto is the artwork. I LOVED the original arrtwork a lot better than the current one so I'm greatly disappointed by that.

Then that would mean that they went to another flashback about Kakashi's life then. :p Although he never specifically stated that Rin had died, she probably did. Hell, this recent Akatsuki arc may very well bring back more of those memories, as this mission seems a bit familiar to Kakashi's Gaiden...

The artwork is a bit different, I can certainly say that. Although there were at times when Kishimoto's artwork as a bit distorted... remember when Naruto and Sasuke were fighting atop the roof of the hospital and they were going at each other with the Chidori and Rasengan? And Gaara's face... I can remember specifically, but there this one time where it looked like his nose took up most of his face. o.0

That aside, I'm looking forward to how the rest of this arc will turn out.

Riaf
14th March 2005, 11:49 PM
I agree, my only gripe with the sereis is the artwork. But there's the anime. But the art is simplier in detail compared to the old one.

HK
15th March 2005, 12:28 AM
I agree, my only gripe with the sereis is the artwork. But there's the anime. But the art is simplier in detail compared to the old one.

Actually, I'm a manga purist. o.0 Yes, as odd as it sounds, I have never seen the Naruto anime. While it might be common to see an anime purist, rarely (if at all) do you see a manga purist. Meh, but I also know abit about some of the stuff that happened in the anime too... I'm weird like that.

With the anime coming to the states, I'm hoping that it comes off like it should. I can certainly say that I won't have to worry about guns getting turned into super soakers or sledgehammers though. ^^; What 4Kids did to One Piece...

Anyway, Kishi's artwork isn't as detailed as it used to be... maybe it is the pressure of having the deadline and coming up with the story itself is making him do that, dunno. But still, the new artwork aside, this is going to be an excellent arc. I've always liked the Akatsuki, I'm looking forward to seeing what the rest of them are/look like. Espicially the Venus Fly Trap and the Leader.

Riaf
15th March 2005, 3:31 AM
Espicially the Venus Fly Trap and the Leader.

Psst, who's the leader?

But I've only seen music videos. But the anamation can be pretty good at times.

HK
15th March 2005, 4:19 AM
Psst, who's the leader?

But I've only seen music videos. But the anamation can be pretty good at times.

Well, this is only speculation on my belief and others as well... but if you remember from that Itachi had mentioned that he and Kisame had recieved orders from the Akatsuki's higher echleon (sp?) to obtain Kyuubi. So it is obvious that Itachi isn't the leader. As to who he/she exactly is, a lot of people (including myself) believe that the guy with the crazy eyes at the end of Chapter 238 is possibly the leader of the Akatsuki. The way he talked... he acted like he own the Akatsuki.

Also, for those who don't have that great of a memory, the Venus Fly Trap guy appeared at... I believe the ending to Chapter 234. Seriously, the way he appeared... he seems like he is a total badass. Plus, he seems to talk to himself... meh, random thought.

Riaf
15th March 2005, 4:26 AM
Heh, really? I'll go check back.

EDIT: I just saw them. The Venus Trap person doesn't seem very interesting but that is a different case with the Ledaer. He looks teh ownage! But what I want to know what Itachi 's intentions are. I mean, c'mon! He's obiovously not evil.

HK
15th March 2005, 4:46 AM
Heh, really? I'll go check back.

EDIT: I just saw them. The Venus Trap person doesn't seem very interesting but that is a different case with the Ledaer. He looks teh ownage! But what I want to know what Itachi 's intentions are. I mean, c'mon! He's obiovously not evil.

Personally, for me the Venus Fly Trap Guy came off very well. Meh, can be different for others, didn't really impress you. I think that Kishimoto has a prupose for him though. Makes me curious as to why Kishimoto shown him before any of the others, save for Itachi and Kisame. Speaking of which, I find it irritating when people seriously underestimate Kisame's skill... personally, he is one of my favorite villians, and probably character frmo the entire series. Besides, he is teh sexy shark-man. He is so hawt. :p Lol, sorry, couldn't resist.

As for the leader, man I first thought that was Itachi, but then I realized the eyes were way different, and that well... it wasn't Itachi. But I have a feeling that with the Akatsuki things are going to get big. There was a good response when Deidara and Sasori were introduced, I can only think of how Kishimoto is going to introduce the rest of them.

Damn spoiler tags... I'll talk about Itachi's intentions in my next post.

Riaf
16th March 2005, 4:51 AM
Just re-read and I have to say I agree with you. Kisame is much more cooler in that point of view.

But the leader...I'm just wondering how he'd be beat. He downtalks Ochimaru like he sucks while The Third had to die to stop him. Who the hell would be good enough to kill him? Got any suggestions?

HK
17th March 2005, 4:00 AM
Damn, doesn't anyone else besides me and Riaf like the Naruto manga around here?! -.- Oh well...


Just re-read and I have to say I agree with you. Kisame is much more cooler in that point of view.

But the leader...I'm just wondering how he'd be beat. He downtalks Ochimaru like he sucks while The Third had to die to stop him. Who the hell would be good enough to kill him? Got any suggestions?

Kisame and Sasori are now the two sexiest men on Naruto right now... that is what makes the Akatsuki so great. :p Seriously though, I really hate when people downplay Kisame and say that he is weak compared to the other Akatsuki members (And this was before we met the others! -.-). Honestly, he was freakin' holdin' back against Asuma, who is actually the most balanced ninja in the entire Naruto series so far. (Kishi's Handbook, or whatever it is called)

For the leader... either Naruto, or I don't know. I honestly can't think of who could beat him when he is stronger than Itachi, who is stronger than Orochimura (I have a feeling that he will be treated like Michael Jackson by little kids watching the show when it comes to the US :/... yet oddly funny at the same time... :p), who is stronger than Sarutobi, Jiraiya and Tsunade (Presumably...). Yeah, so I can't really get a good judge of who would beat him other than Naruto. But then again, we haven't really seen more of him than just two pages, so it is kinda' hard to get a basis off of just that...

Also, I'm excited about this recent chapter. I have read the Raw and read translations to it, although there were a few things that bugged me during it. Meh, I drone on too much, and if you have read translations to it, then you would know what I'm talking about as well.

Too many damn spoiler tags... and where the hell is everyone?!

Riaf
17th March 2005, 4:19 AM
They just-wait, where's majinvegitto? We're the only posters on this entire page!

Sasori is the puppetmaker, right? You have interesting taste in that case.

But the only thing I had on my mind when I first saw Kisame was wheter he was related to crocidiles or not. Sorry to say so, but my first impression didn't diss Kisame nor regarded him. But, after re-reading it (and getting better grasp of the story), he really is nice. That sword is genius.

Ochimaru shouldn't get that crap. Just because he sucks doesn't mean that kids should yell "Oh mah gaaaaawd, hes gay and icky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111" Personally, his face looks pretty cool. I love those eyes.

If Naruto's ratings drop down, then only Naruto would be the one to defeat the Leader. The entire series is about him becoming the best ninja and if the series is forced to end, Naruto would most likely be the Hokage. Since that won't happen, I suspect that some Leaf Chunin (Neji, Shikamaru, Shino, etc., etc.) should do him.

Blue Jasmine
17th March 2005, 5:44 AM
*raises han* Me. I do like it. It is really great. I also watch anime ,but I prefer manga.

HK
17th March 2005, 9:59 PM
They just-wait, where's majinvegitto? We're the only posters on this entire page!

At least Blue Jasmine posted... she likes the anime and the manga. Anybody else alive reading this that likes the Naruto Manga?! Where are you majinvegitto?!



Sasori is the puppetmaker, right? You have interesting taste in that case.

But the only thing I had on my mind when I first saw Kisame was wheter he was related to crocidiles or not. Sorry to say so, but my first impression didn't diss Kisame nor regarded him. But, after re-reading it (and getting better grasp of the story), he really is nice. That sword is genius.

Ochimaru shouldn't get that crap. Just because he sucks doesn't mean that kids should yell "Oh mah gaaaaawd, hes gay and icky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111" Personally, his face looks pretty cool. I love those eyes.

If Naruto's ratings drop down, then only Naruto would be the one to defeat the Leader. The entire series is about him becoming the best ninja and if the series is forced to end, Naruto would most likely be the Hokage. Since that won't happen, I suspect that some Leaf Chunin (Neji, Shikamaru, Shino, etc., etc.) should do him.

Are you kidding?! Sasori is teh sexyness!!!oneone111!1one!!!!!! Lol, seriously though, did you look at his jaw at the end of Chapter 251? When he your known as the Puppet Master, it is a title that he takes seriously.

Kisame was and still is really badass. He is one of my favorite characters that isn't used that much, and sadly a lot of people put him down and saying that he isn't that much stronger than a normal Jounin. -.- Yeah, that is why he is a S-Class Criminal (And the reason why he is and also his relations with Zabuza can become a bit of a mini-arc themselves) and is with Akatsuki. Sure, he isn't that strong. -.- Asswipes.

Plus, he was holding back in that fight, and I consider Samehada kickass 'cause originally I thought it was like a Zanbato or something, but the spikes are kickass.

Orochimura is actually one of the more disliked/hated characters. I actually like his character (There is a freakin' Japanese Story about him!) and his design is great. Although I crack up whenever I think about the Michael Jackson relation kids are going to see in him when it hits the US. (White face, odd nose, long black hair, likes to lure kids away from protection... >> Lol, sorry, I couldn't resist)

But seriously though, if there is any character(s) that I hate in Naruto, I would say it would be both Kabuto and Hinata.

As for who would take down the leader, I would think that Naruto still might do it even if the ratings and popularity goes down. (Which I don't forsee happening...) There is the possibility that the combined effort of Jiraiya and Tsunade bringing him down with Jiraiya killing himself in the process (I've heard things about him being killed possibly, and it would make the most sense with that. Plus, it would be to Tsunade like losing her brother and Dan again except without that necklace... btw, where the hell is Naruto keeping that thing?!)

Also, Shino is an amazing character that I would like to see more of. I don't think that he would take down that big of a character, but he could take down an Akatsuki member by himself... now that I think about it:

9 (Original) Rookie Genins
9 Akatsuki

Hmm... just a thought...

Again, I say it, too many damn spoiler tags!!!!!!!!

Riaf
18th March 2005, 2:57 AM
Sasori strikes to me as "ultimate badass" rather than "teh sexy".

Meh, people these days don't appreciate wicked yet odd mutations such as Kisame anymore. :P But, I mean who cares what they think. Not like it matters.

What's Samehada and Zanbato?

Ochimaru ain't so bad but he reminds me more of Voldemort. Actually, the whole series has some slight Harry Potter infleunces. He did read the first book.

I can hate Kabuto but Hinata's cool. Her character is nice and I really want to know of her cell at the current situiation.

I wouldn't be pleased if Jiraiya died. He's an interesting character. His pervertedness is, erm, unique. But Naruto will most likely kill the leader by using the Kyuubi.

Agreed, Shino may be my second favorite character of this series and he just pwns. Your theory'd be cool if Sasuke stopped being such a ******* and kill Itachi already.

HK
18th March 2005, 3:33 AM
Sasori strikes to me as "ultimate badass" rather than "teh sexy".

Meh, people these days don't appreciate wicked yet odd mutations such as Kisame anymore. :P But, I mean who cares what they think. Not like it matters.

What's Samehada and Zanbato?

Ochimaru ain't so bad but he reminds me more of Voldemort. Actually, the whole series has some slight Harry Potter infleunces. He did read the first book.

I can hate Kabuto but Hinata's cool. Her character is nice and I really want to know of her cell at the current situiation.

I wouldn't be pleased if Jiraiya died. He's an interesting character. His pervertedness is, erm, unique. But Naruto will most likely kill the leader by using the Kyuubi.

Agreed, Shino may be my second favorite character of this series and he just pwns. Your theory'd be cool if Sasuke stopped being such a ******* and kill Itachi already.

Heh, how could you deny the sexy pair of Kisame and Sasori there rightful titles?! >> Alright, I'll stop now. Seriously though, I'm really interested in Sasori's history with the Sand, and how this new pair could possibly help out. Although the woman was Sasori's grandmouther.

Kisame is easily one of my favorite characters in Naruto, and he has only appeared in very few chapters. I guess I really like guys with swords, which is why I really liked Zabuza as a villian. That is another thing that I miss, ever since this whole Advanced Bloodline Limit and Demon stuff, normal ninjas are being overshadowed. Zabuza was really the last villian that I could remember that was just plain good without any real oddity to him.

*NOTE: Before I say this, note that I am not good at all with Japanese or Chinese History. This is just from what I understand.* A Zanbato is a gigantic sword that was used by horsemen to go by and take out their opponents in one fell swoop. However, due to its mass and weight, no one has been known to fully master it. Its basic movements are to swing up and down, and also side to side. Since it technically doesn't have a sharp blade, it can only 'crush' whatever it hits.

Samehada is what Kisame's sword is called. As you know, it is actually a sword that is covered in spikes and absorbs chakra. When I first saw it when it was still convered in bandages, I had believed that it was similar to the Zanbato due to its size and shape. I was proven wrong. :p

Relations have been brought up to Naruto and Harry Potter, and I'm not really suprised. When you think about it, Kishimoto has been inspired by a lot of things, some more evident than others.

I don't really hate Hinata (More like dislike her character occasionly with her actions. I also find it disturbing that out of all the characters, hers seems to be the most believable because honestly; how many people stutter that badly, are that shy, and have that bad of a stalking habit with someone you admire?! o.0) but I hate some of her fans. Mostly her fanboys, because they say that she is sexy and that she is going to have Tsunade sized boobs and that she was the strongest out of all the female genins 0.o (And sometimes out of all the genins 0.0)... they just piss me off.

Sad thing is, Jiraiya might possibly die. I wouldn't want that to happen either, he is freakin' hilarious and actually provided me with the funniest Naruto Manga Moment. I forget which page, but after he had told Naruto that in order to train him, he must always be in the Sexy no Jutsu form (HELL YEAH! XD), he said something like this:

Jiraiya: But I'm not just a pervert...

Naruto: Oh yeah, what else? (I don't think he said that, it just goes along with it)

Jiraiya: I'm... A SUPER PERVERT!!!! *Evil laugh with creepy face and hands*

Lol, the actual scene is funnier. As soon as he said that I liked the guy. But your right, Naruto probably will end up defeating the leader.

Shino is definetly not used enough. I'm glad that Kishi gave him some focus with Kankuro, and I think that there can be some more Jutsus that he can do with his bugs.

Meh, it was just a random thought. I don't that it means anything, unless they all fit together somehow... I'll reconsider it later.

As for Sasuke to stop being a complete ***, that ain't ever going to happen. Amazingly enough, I used to hate him, but somehow I'm starting to like him a bit more. Although I find it annoying when people say that Sasuke will make a return to Konoha and that he will defeat Itachi and that him and Sakura wil live happily ever after. -.- Seriously, betraying Konoha really didn't affect his fans did they?

Damn... too many damn spoiler tags... o.0

Riaf
18th March 2005, 5:02 AM
Yeah, I miss those days of Zabuza and Haku. The way I got intersested in Naruto was because of a music video from when Haku fought Naruto. Not to mention that the artwork and humor were at its prime back then.

Harry Potter influnce basically comes from Ochimaru's character. The snakes, the eyes, the skin, the "Ultimate Ninja/Wizard" title...

How is she being believeable disturbing? But the fanoby problem is true. I saw pictures on another forum of Hinata's face on Faye Valentine's body. That was really freaky. Even though her boobs were slightly big for a 12-year old, people shouldn't make those assumptions. And her being the strongest of even the rookies is crap. She's merely on par with Sakura and Ino.

The line was:

Naruto[Completely ******]: Inspiration!! Yeah right!! I knew it!! You're just a pervert!! You nasty Senin!!

Jiraiya: No,that's not true! I'm not just a pervert!

Naruto:What?! Yeah right...

Jiraiya: I am...[Makes creepy face] A SUPER PERVERT!

Naruto: Damn...he's totally crazy...

Shino will participate in another fight because Kishi is not the kind to abandon people like that so you won't need to worry.

That random thought wasn't so bad...Though it probably won't happen...

Sasuke has always been on my most hated list and probably always will be. Though I don't think Itachi is a complete *******. I think that he is somewhat a good character. Maybe he did it to get closer with the leader to kill him...I dunno...

MachopGirl
20th March 2005, 11:44 PM
*laughs at the dialogue between Naruto and Jiraya*

My, my, all those things that were happening in the Naruto manga makes my head spin. :D

Anyway, I had to mention that it was love at first sight when I started reading the manga in Shonen Jump. It was the idea of Naruto as a living vessel that got me interested. However, the only gripe I had with the manga and anime series is that the fight scenes often lasts way too long. No offense to you guys. Being an artist myself, I had started drawing those characters. (I can only draw Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke from memory; as for the others, I need references. I've been dying to draw Rock Lee.)

Oh yeah, I think many of you guys know that Kakashi-sensei constantly read the book "Make Out Paradise." I find it funny that many readers asked the artist about it even though it actually doesn't exist. (Or does it? :D )

As for the anime, if it's going to be airing on television, I am hoping that it won't be butchered as well as giving stupid voices to the characters.

Riaf
21st March 2005, 1:41 AM
Most of the fights in Naruto either have a character devolpment or introduction so I never really complain about them. Drawing Rock Lee's face is quite easy though his "frown" is difficult.

Kakashi truly is mysterious. He reads a perverted book but never is put in erotic position.

Has anyone read 252 yet? Its interesting with how Sakura sets that goal for herself, no?

HK
21st March 2005, 2:02 AM
MachopGirl, you've only read the manga that the US Shonen Jump has put out so far, haven't you? Well, if you want to read further on than what is currently out in the US, then click on this link:

http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/enter.msnw

Either that, or else download it directly to your computer. Either way is fine.

I was interested in this chapter as far as going forward. Although I was disapointed in the way Naruto first revealed that he was the Kyuubi;s container. It was just rather... anti-climatic. I'm guessing that Kishimoto is going to have a flashback or something to show how Sakura found out about it before.

I'm also interested in the twins that Baki was talking to. The woman's grandson is Sasori, and I'm guessing that Kishi might show us flashbacks of what Sasori looked like before his jaw transformed to that of a puppet. o.0

Although what bothers me is that Kishi seems to be kinda' rushing this a bit. I'm hoping that it at least slows down like in did in this past chapter, because just a lot of things were happening and it was a little too much to take in at once. Seeing the others would be good, but I'm not going to go insane if I don't see Lee or Chouji in the next chapter... -.- Honestly, some people said that they would commit suicide if Hinata doesn't show up in the next chapter. -.- Let me just say this...

HINATA ISN'T A MAIN CHARACTER!!!!!! SHE IS A SECONDARY CHARACTER, NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU FANBOYS WANT TO THINK OF HER AND FANTASIZE ABOUT HER!!!!!!!!!

Like how you mentioned in another Naruto Forums that a dude had Hinata's face on Faye Valentine's body and such... *shudders* I can't stand that at all. Some fans can't get it through there skulls that Hinata isn't a main character, and that she isn't as good as they try to make her out to be.

Also, I'm angry at people who want to see Sasuke right now. Why can't they realize that it is better that Kishi builds up his character before he shows him? It is apparent that he is a bad guy (And I doubt what a lot of people claim, he isn't going to become a good guy and live back in Konoha peacuflly, no matter how much they claim that Naruto or Sakura will bring him back to the light -.-), and once Kishi does finally reveal him, it will have a big impact.

Meh, I rant too damn much.

Riaf
21st March 2005, 3:09 AM
You do rant too much.

Even though Hinata's not a main character, it would be more fitting if you were saying "She's not popular enough". But I have a feeling that Hinata's a lot stronger now. You saw how Sakura turned out, who knows about Hinata... That suidicial comment is funny though.

"if hinata donm't come back in the nect chappie. with sexy tits and proclaim her luve 2 me, ill killllll myself!!!!!!!11!!!!!11111

I thought that Naruto's revelation wasn't so anti-climatic. It has to be said somewhere. But I do agree that it seemed a bit out of place.

Sasori might be related to Kankuro. Just a guess.

The series is going quickly but not to a bad extent. But I really am anticipating our Leaf's arrival. I wonder how they'll appear.

Sasuke, I believe, will fall into the same path as Zabuza has chosen. Something like:

Sasuke: "Dammit...I see that I have screwed my life. I've lost everything. But...!"
[Everyone is shocked.]"I will still kill you!"

Itachi: Okay, Sasuke. Show me the sub-par skills Ochimaru has tought you."

Yeah.

HK
21st March 2005, 3:46 AM
You do rant too much.

Even though Hinata's not a main character, it would be more fitting if you were saying "She's not popular enough". But I have a feeling that Hinata's a lot stronger now. You saw how Sakura turned out, who knows about Hinata... That suidicial comment is funny though.

"if hinata donm't come back in the nect chappie. with sexy tits and proclaim her luve 2 me, ill killllll myself!!!!!!!11!!!!!11111

I thought that Naruto's revelation wasn't so anti-climatic. It has to be said somewhere. But I do agree that it seemed a bit out of place.

Sasori might be related to Kankuro. Just a guess.

The series is going quickly but not to a bad extent. But I really am anticipating our Leaf's arrival. I wonder how they'll appear.

Sasuke, I believe, will fall into the same path as Zabuza has chosen. Something like:

Sasuke: "Dammit...I see that I have screwed my life. I've lost everything. But...!"
[Everyone is shocked.]"I will still kill you!"

Itachi: Okay, Sasuke. Show me the sub-par skills Ochimaru has tought you."

Yeah.

See? At least someone else agrees that I rant too much.. meh, Naruto is one of my favorite mangas, so I guess I take it more seriously than a normal fan would. (Then again, what defines a 'normal fan')

Hinata is just overrated as a character. I don't really dislike her so much as I do as some of her fans; as I have stated many times before. Although it is amazing when we found out that Hanabi was able to beat her. Honestly, when you can't go up against a six year old and you are a Genin, there is something wrong there.

But I don't doubt that she has improved. If anything, she might be able to give Neji a good enough match is she has worked hard enough. Although Kishi didn't exactly give a good impression of her when she served tea in Chapter 238 to them... that really didn't help her character. But when Kishi does reveal her along with the other characters again, and when she doesn't look as beautiful and 'developed' as some of her fans think, I will only smile when I see them in denial that she hasn't shown her true beauty yet. -.- Whatever.

It was just revealed... like it just came out in a random way. It just popped out that Sakura knew, and he ended up telling Temari as well. I have a feeling that Kishimoto will be giving us a flashback, he has already done it that way many times, so why not?

Although I can say that there is a reason as to why I like Kishi's representations. Page 8 in Chapter 252 is a perfect example why. Take a look at how he represented Naruto and Gaara in their childhood coming up... that was emotional. That is one thing that I'll always like about him, and how he goes about telling his characters.

I doubt that Sasori is related to Kankuro. The siblings seem to be of a different... family, I guess. Gaara, Kankuro, and Temari are the children of the former Kazekage, I don't think the woman and man were the Kazekage's parents.

They'll either appear randomly in this Akatsuki Arc, or when Team 7 returns to Konoha. I'm interested in seeing how a lot of them have come, espicially Lee and Neji.

I actually think that Kishi can really do something with Sasuke's character. Heh, as a side note, I would like to say that I like the nickname Sasugay for him. Seriously, what kind of boy could ignore all of the characters literally throwing themselves like that and only focus on being the avenger? -.- Oh yeah, the NaruSasu Yaoi supporters certianly have a reason from Sasuke's side. The only problem, Naruto ain't gay.

Anyway, seriously though, I can think of something that would tear up Sasuke more than anything. If somehow Naruto does end up killing Itachi before they run into Sasuke, then I think that could be interesting. Think about it, if he starts to consider that Konoha might be the best, then he says that he'll return only if he kills Itachi. It would look something like this:

Sasuke: Fine, I'll return to your precious Konoha, pay my punishments, but only one condition. I'm the one who finally murders Itachi.

Sakura: Ummm... Sasuke-kun, there is a problem. He is already dead.

Sasuke: What?! *Grabs Sakura by her shirt* Tell me, who was the ******* that killed him?!

Naruto: *Pulls Sakura away from Sasuke* That ******* was me.

Sasuke: *Stares at Naruto for about five freakin' minutes before he goes angsty and psycho* I'LL KILL YOU!!!!!!!!

... or something like that. Meh, best that I could come up with in about two minutes.

Damn, I seriously do rant too damn much... :D

Riaf
21st March 2005, 5:13 AM
Isn't ranting unhealthy?

Hanabi's defineatly some prodigy. Hinata loses because she lacks way too much confidence.

I look forward to your reaction when that does happen to her. :P

That thing on Page 8 was pretty good. I really like when the author visually compares different characters like that.

Where was it stated that Temari's cell members were related to each other?

I want to see everyone as equally as the other. Maybe Lee has grown a new bod.

That's an interesting petname for Sasuke. But the thing is that Naruto can be a Bisexual. He blushed many times around Sasuke, Kakashi, Inari, Iruka, Haku and Zabuza. That may be of embarressment but...I don't know.

That would be funny:

Naruto: WTF?! I just killed the guy you hate! Why aren't you satisfied?!

Sasuke: Because I'm suposed to kill him!

Naruto: Why?!

Sasuke:...Cuz.
Yeah.

0Hero
21st March 2005, 6:03 AM
I want to read the manga, but I need to watch the anime first, which I can never do because torrents take wayyyyy too long.

Riaf
21st March 2005, 9:16 PM
Why do you need to wacth the anime first? The Manga is much better and even still, there is no nesesecity to read or wacth something before the other.

Kyuubi-Kun
22nd March 2005, 2:59 AM
Chapter 252 bits: Naruto tells Sakura and Temari that the Kyuubi is sealed within him.

Riaf
22nd March 2005, 3:16 AM
Um...doesn't it seem a bit evident that people already know that? That's SPAM, unless you want to dicuss it.

HK
22nd March 2005, 3:30 AM
Yeah, I guess ranting can be bad for ya'. If I die an early death, you'll know what did it... if not for leachery. :p Heh, Jiraiya is easily one of my favorite characters.

Hananbi is a prodigy, but some is Neji. It just bothered me that a Genin couldn't take a six year old. Like I said, I don't dislike Hinata as much as I hate some of her fans.

She isn't going to be fugly (At least I don't think so...), but she ain't going to have the curves of Tsunade/Anko, or the looks of Kurenai. I just like to compare her looks sometimes to that of a dog, odd enough...

I think it was mentioned indirectly, but I believe somewhere in Chapter 59 that it was stated that they were the Sand Siblings. Although that is about as much evidence as one might be able to think of, as they are never seen in any flashbacks that I can remember. That leads to...

... how Kishimoto did his characters. If anything about Naruto is arguably close to perfection, it would have to be his characters. That is the one thing that still could make me read Naruto. However, none of the women in Naruto really are that strong as a character, save for Tsunade.

I really can't wait to see how they all turned out. I wouldn't be surpised if Lee had the best body out of them all. I'm really interested to see if Chouji trimmed down or is fat as hell... also, I'm wondering if they are going to give a role at all to Tenten, considering she was the only one out of them that wasn't given much of a story or the spotlight.

Naruto could very well be bisexual, although I wouldn't really think so. The only time that really could've been anything bi or gay related was when he accidently kissed Sasuke in Chapter 3. When it comes to blushing, it really matters about the rest of the facial features and the character's thoughts. I don't take every blush as either embarassment or crush/love.

As for Sasugay though, I forget where I first saw it, but I thank whoever originally came up with it. I still think that he is gay, he isn't going to succeed in the promise he made in Chapter 4 about restoring his clan, that is for sure... plus, I think that he is going to be one of the characters that is going to die before this story is over.

Naruto: How come nobody could've killed him? What makes you so special?!

Sasuke: Because I'm a Uchiha! I should be the only one to kill him! And while you are special Naruto... I'M SPECIAL TOO!!!! *Turns into Curse Level 3*

Naruto: o.0 Damn, there is a third level to it?!

Sasuke: That isn't all... *Turns into Curse Level 4*

Naruto: 0.o I think I read something that Kishimoto wants to change his name to Toriyama or something...

Lol, sorry, the last part is just making fun of the fact that a lot of people compare Naruto to DBZ way too damn much.

Also, you don't need to watch the anime before the manga. I have only read the manga, and I love it. I'm sure that I would love the anime too, but I just don't have the time to download it on the bit torrents. That is why that I am thankful that Naruto is finally coming over to the US. All I can really hope is that they don't butcher it too damn much, and also that the Uncut DVD's come out. Meh, that usually is the case, so I don't doubt that will happen... I hope. >.<

Riaf
22nd March 2005, 4:06 AM
I see where you're getting at with Hanabi. But I seriously think that Hinata wouldn't suck so much at fighting if she had enough confidence in herself. It was really hard to read the Hinata/Neji fight with her being so helpless.

I've always wondered why Anko wears that kind of shirt. Same thing for Tsunade. Did she use justu to enhace her breasts? Maybe to counter Jiraiya's comment at her when they were childern?

Even if they were siblings, it seemed that Temari was suprised when Naruto brought up that deal about the monsters inside of them. She probably would have a better connection with Gaara's problem. Anyways, triplets? ON the same team? Sounds too out of place.

I really think the women of Naruto should have better roles. I mean, they're treated as *****es and weaklings. If this is becuse of Naruto's a shounen manga, I've have to smack the editors( my joke of over zealous "Naruto is DBZ" fans)

Lee'll look funny. A sexy body with a geeky face. LOL. I doubt Chouji will get any thinner because his power comes from his body mass. Tenten should have a role. I'm also interested in seeing Sakura's parents. Who are they anyway?

Blushing can be interpetated in many ways. I personally think Naruto may like how some men look but would prefer women relationships.

Sasuke is definatley gay. There's no denying it. Ino may look scary but Sauke should have blushed. I hope he dies. I never liked him from the start.

That's really funny but the sad thing is that it'll probably happen.

Naruto: No fears! I'll simply use the Kyuu-bi to win!

Sasuke: What makes you so confident?!

Naruto: I'm the main character!

Sauke:...Damn, I forgot...This sucks....

Yeah.

MachopGirl
22nd March 2005, 9:30 PM
HellKorn: Thanks for the link. I'll check it out to see what was going on in future chapters before [i]Shonen Jump[i] publishes them. BTW some time ago someone even posted some spoilers about Naruto in one of my art posts. He mentioned something about Naruto's parents.

Riaf: I managed to get Lee's frown "just right," but I am still not pleased with how his face looked.

Riaf
22nd March 2005, 10:10 PM
I'm pleased with both results on Lee( I got his frown!)

Kyuubi-Kun
23rd March 2005, 2:27 AM
Um...doesn't it seem a bit evident that people already know that? That's SPAM, unless you want to dicuss it. Bah, did you not read chapter 252 yet? Who would know? It was forbidden to tell the kids. I'm not sure if Sakura knew already but still, it's no SPAM, Naruto did say a lot of stuff.

Riaf
23rd March 2005, 3:33 AM
But it was telling a fact to poeple who already knew it. If you posted it before we discussed it, then it wouldn't be SPAM. It was just out of place, and you're still not dicussing it.

0Hero
23rd March 2005, 5:55 AM
Why do you need to wacth the anime first? The Manga is much better and even still, there is no nesesecity to read or wacth something before the other.
Well, I hate spoiling myself =/ And I like the colour, sound, music, etc.

Skiks
24th March 2005, 1:08 AM
O.o people fantisize about Hinata. Wow.
Anyways I am wondering how Sasuke will get the Mangekyou Sharigan so far it looks like he got the third level of the Sharigan or the three dot Sharigan as I like to call it. That is the frist time I heard someone relate Oro to Michale Jackson. >.> You wouldn't belive it but my friend calls her sister Jiraiya. XD Looky a Sasuke here. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/revl89/pics/chapter229_18special.jpg)

Riaf
24th March 2005, 2:32 AM
Anyways I am wondering how Sasuke will get the Mangekyou Sharigan so far it looks like he got the third level of the Sharigan or the three dot Sharigan as I like to call it.

What evidence is there that he will? Not's like it matter, considering it wouldn't effect Itachi. And what's XD about that picture?

Skiks
24th March 2005, 4:16 AM
I was laughing at my friends comment about her sister being like Jiraiya which fit her sister's personality. >.>

Riaf
24th March 2005, 6:23 AM
She a straight perv or lesbesian one?

Skiks
24th March 2005, 6:39 PM
She a straight perv or lesbesian one?

Think of it as a pervert female Jiraiya that likes men.

HK
24th March 2005, 8:36 PM
All this talk about Sasugay, female Jiraiya (That is funny in itself!), and people fantasizing about Hinata (Although I am the one who brought it up... sick *******s. Besides, what is there to fantasize about?) is making my head spin... back to the manga!

Just a quick question to you all... how do you figure that the manga is going to end? I know that is is rather early in the future and all, and a lot of characters haven't been shown yet (Espicially in the Akatsuki after all...) and there was something about Kishimoto saying that he is going to go into a sequel or something that would involve their kids (Not sure where I saw this); that is evidence enough that a lot will happen from now until Naruto ends.

But I'm just curious as to how everyone thinks that Naruto will end. You can either tell us how you think it will end, how you want it to end, or both. I would say how I would want/think it to end, but I'm too damn lazy right now...

And please, use spoilers like I am now. I don't want anything to be spoiled for somebody who isn't up to date with the manga or is an anime purist.

Edit-Damn, I sound like I'm ****ing mini-modding... bleh. XP That is bad, going from ranting to mini-modding ain't a good thing.

White Infinity
24th March 2005, 9:20 PM
Well, the latest chapter is out.

Test

Skiks
24th March 2005, 11:11 PM
All this talk about Sasugay, female Jiraiya (That is funny in itself!), and people fantasizing about Hinata (Although I am the one who brought it up... sick *******s. Besides, what is there to fantasize about?) is making my head spin... back to the manga!

Just a quick question to you all... how do you figure that the manga is going to end? I know that is is rather early in the future and all, and a lot of characters haven't been shown yet (Espicially in the Akatsuki after all...) and there was something about Kishimoto saying that he is going to go into a sequel or something that would involve their kids (Not sure where I saw this); that is evidence enough that a lot will happen from now until Naruto ends.

But I'm just curious as to how everyone thinks that Naruto will end. You can either tell us how you think it will end, how you want it to end, or both. I would say how I would want/think it to end, but I'm too damn lazy right now...


I agree with you in your unspoiled comment.

As for the Mangas end it be dumb to make a sequel to Naruto I mean what will be left to tell? Naruto become Hokage, Sasuke kills his brother and revives his clan, and everyone accomplishes what they want except those with evil intentions of course. And there childrens lives as a sequel thats a no no It's self too cliche for Naruto. We don't want what happened to Dragonball to happen to this manga/anime.

Riaf
25th March 2005, 12:43 AM
Originally Posted by HellKorn

All this talk about Sasugay, female Jiraiya (That is funny in itself!), and people fantasizing about Hinata (Although I am the one who brought it up... sick *******s. Besides, what is there to fantasize about?) is making my head spin... back to the manga!

Just a quick question to you all... how do you figure that the manga is going to end? I know that is is rather early in the future and all, and a lot of characters haven't been shown yet (Espicially in the Akatsuki after all...) and there was something about Kishimoto saying that he is going to go into a sequel or something that would involve their kids (Not sure where I saw this); that is evidence enough that a lot will happen from now until Naruto ends.

But I'm just curious as to how everyone thinks that Naruto will end. You can either tell us how you think it will end, how you want it to end, or both. I would say how I would want/think it to end, but I'm too damn lazy right now...

Not before we discuss 253!

If there's a flaw with Kishimoto's characters, it may be the sister. She's ****** at Kakashi, thinking he's his father and charges at him. Then she's all "Hah! I got you n00b!" What's up with her?

Appearance of Gai's Team. Surprisingly, Rock Lee's bod stiil the same.*waiting for puberty* He still doesn't act any different. Still that same old nerd, same as Gai.

TenTen doesn't look different at all, which only leads me to plead to Kishi to give some importance to his existance. Her childhood, meaning that.

Neji lost the ponytail and, I just can't not think that Neji stole Ochimaru? You?

Now, Mini-mod, here's my view. If Naruto beats the leader of Atasuki and it completely vanishes, it's the end of Naruto's fights and will not go like DBZ. But if it does continue from there, then it will.

HK
29th March 2005, 1:31 AM
Damn, just when I thought that this thread was getting back on track... no replies in four days! Time for HK to save the day! >> Meh, I try.

I actually really enjoyed Chapter 253. They arrived at Sunagakure a helluva lot sooner than I thought they would. I thought that they would've had at least one more chapter until they got there... that is what is kinda' worrying me that Kishimoto is hurrying along to get to the ending. o.0 I can only hope not.

I actually liked the sister. It shows that if there will ever be one variable that won't change in the world of Naruto, is that old woman can kick some serioues arse. :p Although I am interested in the relationship with Sanjuro (Kakashi's father) and Sasori's father. I have a feeling that will play a role in the next few chapters or so.

Rock Lee didn't change at all in design, except he somehow resmebles Gai a lot more, if that is even possible. Meh, I was thinking along the same lines of you when it came to an awesome body but a geeky face.

Regretably, Tenten didn't change too much. Although she does look more like a woman. *Stares at the Jiraiya's in the crowd* Hopefully he will at least devote a chapter or two about her, or at least give her a bigger role in this arc so we see her personality more. (Like how it was with Kiba; we didn't see anything about his past really, but he stepped up in the rescue arc)

Neji sure as hell changed. Apparently, concepts can pertain to more than just than one character. *CoughNejitoOrochimuraCough* Yeah... but he seems a bit more calm that he used to be. I liked the angsty Neji a lot more; he was menacing and he ranted, but he wasn't a total *** like Sasuke.

Heh, I might get a new nickname on this thread... anyway, I won't post my full thoughts on the ending of Naruto, but I will say this. Kishi has a lot of ways to potentially end the manga/anime, and all I can say is that I hope that he doesn't prolong it just because the fans whine and ***** about it, or that he keeps Toei away from it.

I'll post on how I think Naruto will end later. I have a lot of catching up to do here on the forums.

Riaf
29th March 2005, 3:13 AM
There you are, HellKorn. You're damn late. This is all IMO, so if I don't say pleasing words about a character, it's not serious. Also, I consider some words to be loving nicknames to people.

I doubt Kishi is rushing to the ending. If we waited another chapter, it'd be a filler because it'd effect the storyline.

I don't care if that sister can kick arse, she's still the nagging hag of today. Saying Konoha sucks, allicances make people weaker, Tsunade sucks and having those mood swings...not exactly my favorite type of person. Though, it does seem that there may be a relationship between the hag and Sakura. Don't really care about your connection though. :P

I wonder why Kishi showed Konohamaru's cell, though. Maybe their mission might involve Atasuki, the "special treatmant" Naruto got?

He looks like Gai more because the Chunin jacket. Heck, if it weren't for the eyes, he could impersonate'im!

I think that Kishi is planning to completely blow us away with TenTen with something so remarkable that we don't have anymore doubts. Kiba had a little veiw on his past but, agreed, nothing to serious.
Toei doent' relate to Naruto at all.

Skiks
29th March 2005, 3:35 AM
o.o new chapter:
Anyways it's been said but it looks like Lee is trying to be more and more like Gai. Hmmm... I also wonder what all the sneezing is about in this chapter. It seems to be much more than conicidense. I felt it was to fast how they arrived at the village too but yeah it would have been boring to have another chapter of them getting to the village. Also it's been said but TenTen needs a story to her we haven't been able to even seen her fight. We just heard her get beaten by Temari.

0Hero
29th March 2005, 4:17 AM
You know what, I've decided I'm going to read the manga, egardless if it is in anime form yet. I just have no control.........but I'm currently reading One Piece, so I think that will fill me up for now.

Kyuubi-Kun
30th March 2005, 2:05 AM
o.o new chapter:
Anyways it's been said but it looks like Lee is trying to be more and more like Gai. Hmmm... I also wonder what all the sneezing is about in this chapter. It seems to be much more than conicidense. I felt it was to fast how they arrived at the village too but yeah it would have been boring to have another chapter of them getting to the village. Also it's been said but TenTen needs a story to her we haven't been able to even seen her fight. We just heard her get beaten by Temari. Yeah, Tenten has to do something that doesn't include just weaponary. Sakura showed her med skills already, and we know what Neji and Lee can do so far, but I think we all need to see what Tenten can really do.

HK
1st April 2005, 2:45 AM
Whoo... HK is back again! Meh, trying to save the thread... not that it is going to go into Page 2 or whatever, there aren't enough posts here in this Sub-Forum to do that. o.0

For those who care/know, Chapter 254 is indeed out. Here is a bit of a rundown and my own thoughts on it:

Looks like we'll finally get to the much hyped up Akatsuki fight pretty soon. It also seems that a lot others are really starting to respect Naruto. Him changing Gaara after his fight certainly is effecting quite a few people. (The likes of Sasuke, Sakura, Temari and Kankuro) It also appears that the older sibling is going to join up with Team 7, I guess a bit of a replacement for Temari since she is staying behind. Although her final comments about showing her grandson some love... I pray to God that it means that she is going to open a serious can of whoop-*** upon Sasori.

Speaking of the Akatsuki, I really liked the last bit when Deidara and Sasori arrived at their headquarters. Riaf, the leader is back. :p Damn, he sure as hell is the leader of the Akatsuki; after reading this past chapter, he definitely has that sort of command. Also, he seemed to be a bit transparent when he was first shown, and those crazy eyes were more evident this time around. o.0 KICKASS!!!!!!!!!! Finally, those last three pages that involved them summoning the statue. Anybody know what that could be about?

I'll talk about toher stuff later, I'm just really excited about the Akatsuki coming together. >: )

Riaf
1st April 2005, 3:20 AM
Now, now, incest is nice...

I've got a theory about the leader. I think that he's a relative of Kurenai because, if you look closely, you can see that they share identical eyes. I'd be glad if my prediction is correct because Kiba, Akamaru, Shino and Hinata would definatley have a greater role.

What was the second to last page about? It made no sense. O.o

I've been re-reading the manga lately and it seems that I'm being to apprciate the late artwork more. (Though it's still not as good as the old one).

And where is Sasuke? He better show up....

HK
1st April 2005, 4:25 AM
Hey, I'm not saying that incest is the devil-incarnate, but I would presume that the woman is coming to quite literally slap some sense into her grandson. Actually, I believe that if anything, Hinata and Neji could possibly be a couple of sorts. If you don't agree with that though, just consider that Neji is actually supposed to protect Hinata at all costs. He doesn't hate her anymore, and if he were to marry her, than he could get rid of the Main House/Branch House arguement. Plus, all of the Hyuugas have the Byakugan... either it is a dominant gene, or else the Hyuugas inter-marry.

Bah, enough about the discussion of incest. I doubt that Kishimoto would do something like that though, because it wouldn't be 'natural', or whatever.

It is possible that there might be some relation between the leader and Kurenai, but I do doubt it. It would be a good way to give some other Jounins a bit of a back-story to them, and definitely if it is a woman, since Kishimoto seemed to put girls at a weaker point than men in Part 1.

I don't know too damn much about Japanese Mythology (I can only guess that the statue dealt with something about it, since Kishi' seems to use it in Naruto a lot), so I can't really figure out what it meant. I guess we'll find out what they are going to do with Gaara in the next chapter, although an obvious guess is to get Shukaku out of Gaara's body. One more thing, what is Shukaku exactly? I believe that he is a Tanuki (Racoon), but I have heard that he is an ancient priest or something. o.0 I hope the former is right, because otherwise it will just break the chain of the Youma; i.e. One Tail (Shukaku) and Nine Tails (Kyuubi).

I read somewhere that there are other demons out there within Mythology that deal with different amounts of tails; that it turn also effects there power... something to think about, eh?

The art is different, but it isn't bugging me as much. I do wish that Kishi' could be more detailed like he used to be, but I'm not really complaining. It isn't up to par with his old style, but it is pretty good.

As for Sasuke, be patient man. If you want to see how the other original Genin turned out, that is fine (because I want to see them too :p). But seriously, I think that it is wise to keep Sasuke hidden for a while. It builds up the tension, protects the character (somewhat...), and when he does come in it will be kickass. Besides, I thought you said that you don't like Sasuke at all. :p But yeah, I'm anxious myself to find out what he looks like. Although, let us be patient with Sasuke at least, alright?

P.S.- BTW, I really like your sig picture of Deoxys. It is freakin' tight man. Where did you get/find it?

Edit- NVM, just read the part above it. I'm finding that Scrap has made a lot of excellent banners. Seen the one for Elemental Charizam, and it is the pwnage. Need to see if she can make a one for my story.

Riaf
1st April 2005, 4:47 AM
I was just simply making a joke about the whole incest thing. I don't think Kishi'd put incest there either, but he could put gays in there....Sasuke...

Personally I can't wait until Hinata get's a kid, cuz' then, if she where to get busy with Naruto, her kid would become a monster. The Byakugan and Kyuubi mixed together would be totally 00ber. :)

If I'm correct, then it'll definatley bring the Naruto characters together and they'll supply us with the awesome new technique they've learned. Not to mention, letting us in on Kurenai.

I think that we need more info on the Youma fast because it'll definatley affect the plot drastically. Like maybe the leader of Atasuki creates the Youma and wants them back...?

That could explain why Naruto was able to beat Gaara. But, are you sure that Shukaku has only one tail?

The only reason I'm screwing about the artwork is because I *heart* the old artwork. I'm serious.

Eh, I was just re-reading when they go hunting for Sasuke so I went a little overboard.

HK
1st April 2005, 5:43 AM
Sasuke is gay man. I believed it ever sicne he didn't like it when Ino had thrown herself on him, and I still believe it to this day. He isn't going to revive his plan, because if he does become stronger than Itachi, he is going to make him pay by raping him over and over again. >> And truth by told, part of me isn't j/k about that last statement. o.0

I'm not really that concerned about the couplings once Naruto is all said and done, but of all things, I don't really see Sasuke and Sakura getting together, and to a lesser extent, Naruto and Hinata. SasuSaku (I think that is what the pairing is called...) is just plain shallow. Sasuke is a total *** who rejected Sakura and Konoha, betrayed them just for an easy route to attain power just to avenge. I don't forsee a happy ending for Sasuke when all is said and done; I think that Kishi' might give him a death in his final fight against Naruto in which he apologizes for what he has done. Plus, it wasn't like Sakura really liked him for special reasons. He had an entire harem of girls after him for Kami's Sake -.- (And yes, I'm trying to learn Japanese and get more of a ground on it, sue me).

As for NaruHina (I think that is what it is called... again), it wouldn't be too bad. True, their kids would be freakin' awesome with the Byakugan and the Kyuubi, and it would be a way in which Naruto could change the Hyuugas. But the only thing is that aside from the Prelims and before the first found of the third test in the Chuunin Exams, Naruto hasn't talked to Hinata at all. There hasn't really been any build with their relationship, plus the personalities don't exactly mix well together. Unless Hinata has gone a complete 180 degree turn in her personality, she won't be able to keep Naruto in line and will just go along with everything he says. Naruto in a relationship like that just... I don't know, doesn't strike me as the best. He is used to being kept in line in a sense, and Hinata would just go along with everything he said. I mean, it isn't anywhere enar as shallow as SasuSaku, but it really doesn't have any dynamics.

o.0 Damn, now I'm ranting about love and crap in Naruto... I need to slap myself. *Slaps self... seriously* Yeah... back to the topic.

That would be a good connection to bring some of the characters together, but sadly, I don't think that it will happen. It seems that the leader is of his own talents all his own, plus, he is a badass and t3h pwnage. Hopefully Kishimoto will be able to give some more characters the spotlight... and hopefully the attention won't be all on Sasuke.

I think that the Youma will be put in the spotlight soon, but I'm hoping that it doesn't turn out to be similar to Naruto's and Gaara's cases, that would take too damn long, and originality wouldn't be there. If the Akatsuki already has some/most of the Youma, that will make it easier with introductions.

Yeah, I'm about 99.9% sure that Shukaku only had one tail. But as far as the Mythology goes, I find it a bit iffy. There didn't really seem to be that much of a difference in power when Gaara and Naruto fought, so either Kishi' isn't going by that, or else the Youma don't differ that much in power. Also, in theory, the Kyuubi would be the most powerful due to it having the nine tails. Jiraiya had even mentioned that Kyuubi was one of the more powerful Youma; if that isn't foreshadowing, I don't know what is.

You loved the artwork? o.0 Meh, well, I guess when you really are devoted to something...

Heh, sometimes I go overboard too man... like how I did when I analyzed the relationships in the top part of my parts... bleh. But yeah, I think that there will be many chapter devoted to Sasuke's return. BTW, for all of those *******es who say that Sasuke will turn around and see the light, that will only happen if Kishi' feels restricted and doesn't want to do something that makes sense (Instead of those fairy-tale endings... -.-). I think that of all things, next to the Akatsuki and Orochimura, Sasuke will become a big villian in the series, if not the main one.

Riaf
1st April 2005, 10:29 PM
Well, there is this one girl who I can dislike and she hugged me. I acted annoyed but I was really happy she did. So don't call that as definite proof. And I doubt anyone could beat Itachi, espcially Sasuke. No matter how much Ochimaaru raped him up.

Sauke and Sakura is a fool's dream now because Sasuke now no better than Itachi. He betrayed Konoha and assisted the assasin who murdered the 3rd. Only Sakura (maybe Naruto) cares for him now. And Sasuke'll betray them. But Sakura surely likes him for special reasons. It may not be of any evident ones but she *loves* him.

People could change. Hanging with Hinata could cause Naruto to act more like a gentleman, not wanting to freak her out. Hinata could act more Naruto-ish if she hang out with him as well. That way, the realtionship could work.

Nine-Tails might be so strong because it's ability to resist physical damage so well. Like how Naruot's stamina's so great.

Why would Sasuke become the main villain?

EDIT: ZOMG! Look at NarutoFan right now!!!!

HK
2nd April 2005, 1:25 AM
Sasugay will never beat Itachi IMO. Itachi actually worked and sacrificed for his strength, while Sasugay depends on the Curse Seal (There is going to be a Level 3, I know there is... -.-) and wants to take short cuts. While I know that there are a lot of prodigies in the Naruto world (Which kinda' takes away the meaning of a prodigy -.-;;), Sasugay had everything going for him, and yet he tossed it aside, despite Kakashi even telling him that it would hurt everyone in this case, including himself.

I'm not one for romance and all, but if Kishimoto does end up getting Sasuke and Sakura together, I will be royally ******. I have never seen anything that makes Sakura actually love him, aside from the typical things that a lot of the other girls liked about him. You know, the crush kinda' things. In my mind, she only cares about Sasuke due to the fact that they did go through a lot when Team 7 was together.

As for Naruto and Hinata hooking up... meh, I would actually look forward to it if it wasn't so one-sided, and the fact that Naruto has only talked to Hinata during the Chuunin Exams. Plus, when I think about it plot-wise, the romance can't really fit in anywhere unless Kishimoto plans on making Hinata one of the main female roles (i.e. Tsunade, Sakura) in Part 2. Otherwise, I can't really see it happening with them. Not saying that it wouldn't be bad, just that there hasn't been any development in there relationship (If you wish to call it that).

Actually... was it ever stated that Kyuubi couldn't be hurt physically? I think that it just has so much Chakra that it gives Naruto a lot of stamina and it also heals Naruto a helluva lot quicker than another person. But yeah, in theory if the tails were to determine the strength of the Youma, Kyuubi would indeed be the most powerful. I remember reading about those monsters and those different tails... damn, that sentence didn't make sense, but yeah; I'll have to look up on it later.

It would be possible that Sasuke were to a main villian. I don't think that you all of people would think that Sasuke would suddenly become good and become the main hero, now would you? :p Plus, Kishi' would have to rename the series 'Sasuke'... which, when you think about, he should've done that from the beginning. Honestly, most of the time the series is focusing on Sasuke; while Naruto does have a lot of moments of focusing on him (Since he is the main character), Sasuke had the concern on the entire village and the enemies, save for Itachi, wanted to face/capture him.

Damn... I looked at it a while ago, and just came here to post. I sure as hell hope that things don't turn out like that, honestly, what about the other scans going around on the internet? If they try to do that, then it will only just piss people off to no end. If they do take away the manga scans though, then I will have to depend on either people who read it IRL to tell me about it, or else depend on the anime. Neither good options because I don't know anybody in Japan, and I don't have time to watch the anime.

Basically, if this goes through, we all are so damn screwed... ><

Riaf
2nd April 2005, 2:46 AM
If there's anyone who could beat Itachi, it'd be Jiraiya. I don't know but I think that he's stronger than Ochimaru for some reason and if he's stronger than Ochimaru, he has more of a chance of baeting Itachi. And on the subject of Sasuke cheating, I've always felt that the Sharigan Level Two (As for the Curse seal, there'll be 4...)way was cheap. And Sasuke, is no longer a prodigy. His current skills are simpe power-ups . 00ber.

Sakura and Naruto definetly would work better than Sasuke/Sakura. Even though they're the main characters, that ship is wothy of happening. But Sakura has some serious love for Sasuke. Since Kishi has been recently develping Sakura, we miht find out exactly why it's Sasuke.

I think that Naruoto and Hinata should work out because Naruot said it to her face "You're the kind of girl that I like!" You can interpret it itno anything you please but I'll take that as a hint. But's it's not like I'll kill myslf if she doesn't go with him at the end.

I meant that the demon fox's stamina and invuneravblity might be the reason why it was so feared. Kyuubi could withsand great ninja forces but someone from Atasuki might be able to beat it in terms of strength. The Tail theory is definatley formidable but it would seem to unoriginal and over-used.

I mean that I didn't think that Sasuke was capable of being the main villain, like Cell or Freiza. I am 101% sure that Sasuke will be the same Itachi wanna-be he always was and try to act very menacing. Of course, he'd be all lame and, well, gay.

As for the scanning...I got you good! April Fools!

HK
2nd April 2005, 5:20 AM
The ironic thing is, there have been discussion on the power triangle of Jiraiya/Itachi/Orochimura before. Orochimura has clearly stated that Itachi is more powerful than him (Although some idiots like to claim that he was talking about someone else... -.-). Itachi and Kisame were discussing on how to get the Kyuubi with Kiraiya there, and it shown that they felt that he was too hard to defeat. That is why Itachi hypnotized a woman to lure Jiraiya away from Naruto (Probably one of the more funnier moments in the series, and it also shows that Itachi is a good strategist). But then Jiraiya shows the he failed in stopping Orochimura from leaving long ago (The past repeats itself I guess, since it seems that Team 7 are going to be the next Sannin)... meh, strength triangles always confuse me, unless it involves Pokemon...

Sakura's reason for caring about Sasuke don't really seem that different than any other girl. Hell, even Temari and Tenten thought that Sasuke was cool acting and handsome (Despite the obvious fact that he wants his name to be Uchiha Sasugay :D). Sakura probably cared more for him than just a simple crush than what others girl have for Sasuke just because they were on the same team, like I stated earlier. But then of course, you or I could be entirely wrong and when Sasugay finally shows his traitorous face, we may get a reaction that we would've never expected from Sakura... hmm, I'll think about possibilities about that for later.

Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike Naruto/Hinata at all man. I just don't think that the pairing has the much of a build-up, would really work with the plot, and their personalities wouldn't really compensate for each other (Well, it depends on Hinata's persona after the Time Skip. If she has done a 180 degree turn or even a 90 degree, it might be possible; although I don't forsee that... and don't ask where I got those numbers). I mean, it hasn't been brought up since the Chuunin Exams except for Hinata's stalking problems (I've never really been fond of that trait that Kishi' gave her... that just makes her character seem... I know she is supposed to be shy an' all, but damn! o.0). Besides, like you said, it is how you interpret it. When Naruto said that he liked people like her, different people took it either as a compliment, aknowledgement, or a hint to that pairing. I don't really see it happening with what Kishi' has done to the pairing now, but if he actually puts some more effort into it, then I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Naruto and Sakura getting together might just be the typical main guy and main girl getting together, but it isn't the typical boy meets girl story. Sakura went from hating Naruto, to thinking that he isn't a total idiot, to respecting him and realizing that he does understand and that he will always be there for her. Although there isn't any hints of love, I just think that it is a relationship that has evolved well enough. I am not one to take every interraction between two people as a hint like some of the more rabid-shippers are (They scare me sometimes... 0.o), so unless it is blantly obvious, I don't really consider any pairing canon like some idiots out there.

Bah, dammit Riaf! You see what you just made me do! You made me care about a shipping! HK has rarely ever done that!

Back on track though. Ah, I get what you're saying now. But that only makes me question on how the Akatsuki is going to handle Kyuubi if they ever get a chance at truly obtaining it without any trouble; that makes this upcoming chapter with Gaara and Shukaku even more vital when it comes to the Akatsuki and the Youma. And yeah, it would be a bit cliche with the Kyuubi being the most powerful since it has the most tails, but Kishi' seems to draw on a lot of things that are predictable or known.

Oh man, let us not start the DBZ comparisons... although let me say that Freezer should've been the last villian and that DBZ should've ended at the Freezer Saga. On topic though, I think that Sasuke will probably be just like a villian in the shadows for a while (Like the Akatsuki... like how actual ninjas should be dammit!), but he may come out and possibly stop Orochimura from taking his body if it gets that far. But yeah, you're right. No matter how OOber powerful Sasuke is going to get, he shall always be the gay avenger of the Uchiha Clan, which he needs to revive. (Now that is a real oxymoron :p)

One final note... I hate you Riaf. I honestly did believe it for a while, but then after I got off the computer for a while. I looked at the calender in the kitchen when I was making myself a pizza. I did a double check and saw that it was April 1st, April Fool's Day. I smacked myself and then realized that the scanning thing was a joke. Damn, you and the people at NarutoFan got me good. The only thing is though, do this at any other time in the year, and us Naruto fans are indeed screwed. :p

Riaf
2nd April 2005, 6:04 AM
You screwed your spoiler thing up.

I think that Jiaraiya is stronger than Ochimaru because of how he seems to be a threat to Itachi, who is definatley stronger than Ochimaru. If you're pondering to why Jiraiya had a hard time fighting him, well, that's because of the drugs Tsnade implanted in his beer.

I seriously don't think anyone could care for a person like that, espically when they're 12-16 years old. Sakura definatley has some problems concerning Sasuke and thats makes me wonder whether Sakura is on drugs or summat.

It's okay if you like NaruHina or not. If that or him and Sakura happens, I'd be fine. I just can't seem to place with one of those girls. So which ever works best.

I'm glad I made you into a shipping. I'll use that for my ego.

HK
2nd April 2005, 5:54 PM
How did I screw my spoiler thing up?

As for Orochimura possibly stronger than Jiraiya, I was referring to the flashback that Jiraiya had. It was in Chapter 237 when Jiraiya told Naruto not to go after Sasuke right away; he knew that for know, that was a lost cause because he himself when through the same thing with when Orochimura left them years ago. But yeah, about that big Sannin fight, it just irritates me about how sometimes people say that Orochimura is automatically the best; none of the Sannin were at their strongest in the fight for one reason or another, so we can judge their strength based on that.

Hmm... self-obsession maybe? Meh, I dunno'. I just found it amazing that so many damn girls liked Sasuke that much. I know that he was the supposed prodigy of the Uchiha Clan and all, but come on. Plus, I think that Kishimoto had to give each character some recognition, and for Part 1, I guess he might've given Sakura that Sasuke-Obsession. o.0 Heh, a ninja on drugs... speaking of which, Drunken Lee kicks some serious ***!

Meh, like I said, as long as it is reasonable, no pairing would bother me. Which is why I can't stand Sasuke/Sakura, because it is so shallow and unreasonable. :D But yeah, I think when it comes down to it, I don't really care that much on the outcome. Kinda' hard to when you didn't care that much about shipping in the first place. :P But you got to have your preferences, and I guess for me I would choose Naruto/Sakura.

Well, add another feather to your cap, cause it looks like you got me to talk about shippings again. Dammit Riaf! You egotistical bastard... then again, I'm really one to talk eh? :D

One final note. What do you predict is going to happen in Chapter 255?

Riaf
2nd April 2005, 8:00 PM
When I was posting, your comments weren't hidden in a spoiler. You put a [SPOIL/] thing at the beginning.

You been re-reading, haven't you? Well, so have I!

There's no doubt that, in their younger days, Ochimaru was the strongest and Jiraiya was the weakest. I think that the loss of Ochimaru made Jiraya sronger somewhat and Ochimaru focused too much on immortality to get as strong as him. Another thing is that Gamabunta kicked Manda's ***.

You should see Drunk Lee in the anime. It's hig-frigging hilarious.

Kinomaru: [Lee falls down and stops breathing] Is he dead? Or is this a trick? [He walks up to him]

Lee:[Gets up with a hialrious voice] Hah! I fo'd you! That whut ninja do, dammit!

You just have to see it.

I really miss the old Sasuke. Ever since Itachi came in to the veiw, "Sasugay" has been abnormal. If Sasuke stayed the way he was, that shipping would have had a chance. But who cares? Naruto and Saukra forever! :P

What are you talking about, HK? You are the sincrest, kindest man. Who doesn't give imaginary people insulting nicknames and respect the comments of the over-zealous fans. :p

I think that we'll see more about Atasuki in the next chapter and might possibly even unshadow some other members. By the way, did you notice that Sasori appeared in 238?

HK
2nd April 2005, 8:29 PM
Ah, well I was able to edit it while you were replying to my post. Meh, no biggie.

Heh, I've have actually been re-reading a lot of the Sasugay Rescue Arc and the Prelims in the Chuunin Exam. Personally, I really liked the fights back in the Prelims. One of my favorite fights in the series, believe it or not, was 'Naruto vs. Kiba'. I dunno why, but I really enjoyed that fight, because it shown that you can overcome great adversity (sp?), and that is also when a helluva lot of people start to respect Naruto. Plus, the fight itself was won in part due to Naruto's luck and creativity, as you well know. :p

Yeah, you are probably right about Jiraiya getting stronger since then. He is no slacker, that is for sure. His 'spying' and 'information gathering' skills are incomparable. :D Lol, seriously though, Orochimura just wants to learn all of the jutsu in the world (Does that include Sexy no Jutsu and Harem no Jutsu?), while I would guess Jiraiya just becomes stronger instead of just learning more and more jutsu.

Lol, that sounds great. I really wish that I had time to catch up on the anime, but I will have to hold that off until the summer possibly. But if I don't, I still hope that the anime isn't screwed up when it comes to Toonami during the fall. Who knows, we actually might get another Rurouni Kenshin or Yu Yu Hakusho in the dub, ya' know?

I actually liked Sasuke's character before the Itachi-obsession came into view. Ya' know, I sometimes wonder if Itachi raped Sasuke when he was young after the way he acts sometimes... meh, but I can say this: I don't care for people who excuse Sasuke's behavior because he has the Curse Seal from Orochimura, or that he had a troubled childhood. It is shown that it can be fought off and you can go past it. Also, others had worse childhoods than him (i.e. Naruto and Gaara. And yes, believe it or not, they both had a worse childhood than precious Sasuke-kun. For me though, Gaara had the worst one of them all.), so there is no excuse for forsaking your friends and village just to gain power for revenge.

Meh, the shipping is starting to make me feel... well, not normal. Meh, I like it when romance is kept as a background thing in manga/anime. One of the exceptions is Naruto, but that is because it is so damn freakin' awesome in everything else. :D Go for Naruto for hooking up with Sakura/Hinata! Go for Sasuke dying a sad and lonely death! >: )

True 'dat. I'm so nice to you you morons and *******s! :p

I do think that in Chapter 255 we'll see more of the Akatsuki (It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out) and how they operate with the Youma and their statue. Also, we might see more of Team 7 traveling and get to see the older sibling and Kakashi reveal more about their past (Since Kakashi's father killed the old woman's son).

Riaf
2nd April 2005, 10:07 PM
Dude, with the exception of Dosu vs. Chouji, Sasuke vs. Yoroi and Kankuro vs. Misimi, I loved the whole thing. Shino showed how kick-*** he really is, Shikamaru gained himself some vavluable reconigtion, Sakura actually fought, Temari brougt suspense, Naruto (as you said earliler) got some acknowledgement, Hinata showed some character and Rock Lee was just awesome.

Where does Jiraiya get so much info? Maybe he's a user of some eye power-gan? As for Ochimaru's jutsus, I think he should be killed by a Sexy no Justu. The irony'd rock.

The anime isn't as great when it comes for the voices, though. Naruto sounds to Chuckie-ish(from Rugrats), Sasuke's to adult and deep (same for Gaara) and Kiba doesn't have the wild sound I would out him in. I really only like Kinomaru's, Lee's and Gai's voice.

Even if Sasuke is guy, I doubt he'd act so bratty around Itachi when he was a kid. He'd either be too scared to talk to him or would be all "Ahhhh! Itachi-sama!" or summat. But alot of people had crappy childhood in Naruto. Everone hated Naruto, Sasuke's family died, Sakura was bullied, Hinata was deemed worthless by her peers, Chouji had no friends, Lee was a loser, Neji was tortured by his family, Gaara was despised by everyone in his country, Iruka's parents died, Haku's father betrayed him, Kinomaru was trapped in a prison and Kakashi lost the only person he could call a friend. But only Sasuke had to ***** about it.

I have a feeling that Kishi will make it so we actually have to feel bad for him. Like he did with Haku and Zabuza, we would feel some horror when Sasuke dies.

What about the Sasuke-lovers?

I thing that Sanjuro just betrayed him. Cuz that's what the Fourth said.

HK
3rd April 2005, 6:45 PM
Yeah, the Prelims were easily enjoyable, and offered some of the bests fights in the series, IMO. Offered quite a bit of development for the characters and did some foreshadowing in the background of it all (Poor Hayate, had to get killed at the end of it all :P). Kishi' was on a role with great fights... then something happened. Can't really figure out when in the manga though. Oh well, still, the Prelims kicked serious ***.

Hmm... maybe Jiraiya is of the Hyuuga Clan and has a Byakugan of immense power beyond what the other Hyuugas have! Or not. Seriously though, was it ever stated in the manga how many Icha Icha Paradise books there were out? 'Cause I know that he just made one when Naruto gave Kakashi the latest one in the series (Icha Icha Tactics). As for Orochimura being killed by the Sexy no Jutsu, that would be freakin' hilarious. The irony of it all, and some be would be claiming that is is impossible because Orochi' is gay. 0.o Meh, that would take a long time to finally calm down...

Heh, some people say that Naruto's Japanese voice is the only one that fits him perfectly. o.0 Different opinions I guess. But yeah, if I don't check it out by the time that it hits stateside, then I can only pray that it is a good dub, and hopefully has the uncut DVD's out eventually.

0.o Damn, I just realized that the constant theme in Naruto is: 'Let us see how angsty we can be with the characters and give them awful childhoods!' or something like that. But yeah, my big beef with Sasuke is just the fact that he damn near had everyone supporting him. Girls went crazy over him, boys wanted to be like him, adults were always making sure that he was alright, enemies always wanted to test their strength against him, etc. Honestly, the vengance thing with him drove him to the point where he could go insane. And if that happens... ANGST!

Yeah, since he is Kishimoto's favorite character and all that good crap, he'll probably get treated with... well, a lot of focus. Dammit, that didn't make sense... but yeah, he'll try to make us feel sorry for Sasuke when he turns all evil and crap, and if/when he does die. But Haku and Zabuza I could understand, and they did actually redeem themselves in a sense (Although it was kinda' hard to hate Haku in the first place, unless you were mad when he supposedly killed Sasuke); they did have a tearful goodbye and all... perhaps one of the homosexuals couples in the series dying together. >>; What? You know that it's true man.

For the Sasuke lovers... meh, I don't care about them. If they love a character so much that they will kill if he goes bye-bye, then they have some issues to work out themselves. Plus, it is hard to love a character if you honestly think about his actions, and Sasuke's aren't exactly sensible and just.

Actually, Yondaime (sp?) actually told Obito that he betrayed Konohaguruke because he wouldn't go forward with the mission, as he put his friends before the main goal. There was no mention of Sanjuro having any tie-ins with the Akatsuki in Kakashi's Gaiden. So this is something quite different, and I have a feeling that there is going to be a lot of flashbacks before this is all said and done. :p

Riaf
4th April 2005, 4:35 AM
The fights after the prelims weren't so bad. Like the Orochimaru/Third one, they were pretty good. The prelims were to introduce the character's battling skills.

Or even better, maybe he created the "Gans" with his ancient justsu. :P He did say that he was a great peeper, back to the ages of twelve. His "Touton No Jutsu" must be how he gets the info. I'm just curious to see how it works. And seeing Oro die from a Sexy No Justu would just rock.

I want to know how the Aburme Clan is able to see. Shino, even from a side view, his eyes are always shrouded in darkness. I mean what's up with that? Do they have some sight-seeing bugs or summat?

Who's that girl who was in 139? She sort of appeared from nowhere. She might be Jiraiya's pupil but they have different eyes and she might be like 40 or 30. She seemed to have a deep attachment to Hayate, though.

Speaking of that girl, what about the fat guy? They seriously need to be showcased in the series. Yondaime had enough back-story in the Gaiden. I want to know about the others. Kishi should bring them into the story.

Personally, I don't think that Naruto's voice is the best choice. It is a good choice but I think that he needs someone who can catch his mischievousness the way it needs to be.

Yeah, if you compare that to Gaara, it'd be a landslide. Sasuke had to live with the pain of loss for years but he defiantly wasn't an outcast nor lonely. (Though it does make me wonder, who took care of him while he was a child?) Gaara lost the only person who seemed to love him and was a reject by the entire society. Which whould suck more, n00bs?

I forgot that Kishi's favorite was Sasuke. That sucks. :P But I wouldn't if Sasuke gets a tearful and lonely death, as long as he doesn't screw it up. As for Haku, I bet only he had the crush on him. I think that Zabuza just loved him as a son. Or daughter.

HK
6th April 2005, 2:05 AM
I think that is why I loved the Prelims so damn much. They were soemthing new and offered a lot of character development. But yeah, Kishimoto had a helluva lot of great fights after that, no doubt. Having abuot 140 chapters after them, you're bound to get a good one in there. :p Personally, I have always enjoyed Naruto's fights. Most of Sasuke's fights are truly overrated though; I really only liked his fight with Haku, and partly with Gaara.

Let us just face it, Jiraiya is the ultimate spy/pervert of all time. No one knows that he is there, however, he does have an obvious weakness. Itachi easily saw that. (Thinking back, I laugh at that because I don't think that people would normally think of Itachi that way) I can't wait until Orochimura comes across Naruto again; if Naruto does Sexy no Jutsu, then it is over for Orochi'.

Actually, I've been wondering about that myself. I remember reading a fanfic that gave an explanation about that. It said something about how Shino had primarily used his eyes to have bugs go in and out of his body. That makes sense because for rather bigger bugs, they need something to go through. Meh, just a theory.

I think that Kakashi referred to her by some name... I think that the newest Databook will give her a name. I guess that she was Hayate's girlfriend or something. And what fat guy are you talking about?

Hmm... just as a side note, who would you think of as a good voice for Naruto in the dub? What about any other characters?

Yeah, the whole 'who had the worst childhood' thing. I know that Naruto and Gaara don't really know what the pain of loss is like (Although Gaara might have a good idea since he had gotten close with his uncle before his uncle tried to kill him), but Sasuke doesn't know what it means to be hated, feared, to recieve death-threats and to actually have an assasination on you. Plus, Sasuke always had support and was admired by everybody. Yeah, he really had it the worst. -.-

'Or daughter'. :p But yeah, Sasuke is Kishimoto's favorite character... which only makes me hope that Kishi' makes him a kickass villian who dies a truly memorable deaf. Otherwise, unless he really does something worthy, he shouldn't be forgiven for betraying Konohaguruke. If he does, then that will just be on my things off where Kishi' really screwed up: i.e. Chouji living after his big fight, Neji living after his big fight (That isn't as bad as Chouji's case though), the Kazekage being killed by Orochimura with amazing ease, having Lee recover with no reprecussions, etc.

As a side note, I believe that Chapter 255 comes out tomorrow. We learn more about Akatsuki, which is t3h shiz-nit!!!11111oneone!!!one11! Yeah, I really, really like the Akatsuki as a villian organization, with my favorites in the gorup being: Kisame (t3h sexy-shark!), Itachi (t3h angst and makes Sasuke look like an idiot!), Flytrap Guy (Don't know his name... but I have a feeling that he is going to be one badass character) and 'The Leader' (Come on, the eyes and shadow effect, with the badass attitude!). Yeah...

Meh, I like Sasori alright and Deidara is tolerable, but I think that they could be better.

Riaf
7th April 2005, 1:48 AM
Well, I'm not sure if they're overrated. Kakashi made him look like an ***, Zabuza was boring(considering Sasuke, Naruto's part was kickass), Haku had some nice dueking, Orochi I liked, Yoroi didn't affect me, Gaara was...meh, Itachi was interesting and Naruto, well he lost. That was truly a sad segment in Naruto.

Guess what my aunt said. She said that if she were my parent, she'd stop manga for me. Apparently, the age of 14 is too young to be capable of it's philosiphy.

That's a good theory, considering that bigger bugs must be more storng than smaller ones. So, do they see for him? But seriuosly, Shino lives with the irratation of bugs all over his body everyday. That must suck.

Even if we knew her name, I still want to know who she is. She just ramdomly appeared with her ANBU squad (what does that stand for anyway?) and said she'd kill the enemy for screwing Hayate. As for the fat guy, he's the kid that was under Jiraiya's cell. He's in chapter 122.

I think that any voice that seems to be over-energetic but has some mild innocence would work for Naruto. A deep but not an adult one is suitble for Sasuke. Any voice of a 12 years old girl will fit Saukra. Eh, too tired to go all out.

I wonder, how does Naruto feel about Sasuke? Does he stilll worry for him as a friend, or does he despise him him the way we do? I know that Sakura wants to free him, but has Naruto shut his mind from Sasuke completely?

I've always thought that Chouji should have still been in critical condition during the time skip, though Neji had magic spells all over him.

Did you read 255 yet? Return of Kisame, and Gai forgot who he is. He'll get a beating for that (from HK and Kisame :p). Other than that, Gaara got...thing-a-hoobered to a....thingagawhatthis.

BTW, your fic rocks. But I'm only up to the like sixth chapter.

HK
7th April 2005, 3:44 AM
Meh, I dunno. His fights never really stood out that much to me. Although every fight is pretty much better in the anime than the manga because the characters 'move'. >> But for Sasuke himself, I think that his style has gone from varied (Which I did like about his early fights) to Chidori obsession with maybe some Katon- (insert Fire Type Jutsu here).

The age of 14 is too young to understand philosiphy?! o.0 Not to insult her or anything, but what was she smoking when she said that?! :p j/k Seriously though, I'm 14, and I actually question things a lot and just wonder if anything we do have a purpose to meet the ends of this universe, whatever ends that is, and if there is even an end. Which only goes to say, everything has a beginning except the beginning of the beginning, and everything has an ending except the ending of the ending.

See, philoshiphy and thought right there, bam. Who said that 14 year-olds can't understand philosiphy and deep thought?

Yeah, I forget where I saw the fic though, or what it was called. But I do like the explanation in regards to why the Aburame Clan all have their eyes shadowed over. Although, I'm sure that they get used to it after a while. It isn't like us where if suddenly *POOF* we have bugs going throughout our system.

Ah, thanks for clearing that up with the fat guy. Don't really have much to say about either of them though. It would be nice is Kishi' even gave a few pages devoted to some of his character, at least give us readers a backstory to go off of.

Same here man. I think I'll post my ideas for voices in the Naruto Dub. I have seen some recomendations on who the VA should be;might base some of my choices off of those.

While we don't know specifically, from how he and Sakura both reacted, Sasuke seems to still be an important person to both of them. Check Chapter 246 for that referrence. I'm no impatient to see Sasuke, but since they only have nine months until Orochimura can switch bodies again, they should get around to trying another rescue attempt pretty damn soon. Looking forward to that.

Meh, you already know my feelings on some of the choices that Kishi' made for the manga. Butterflies signify death in Japan, and his 'death' scene seemed so surreal that you had this feeling that you wouldn't see him again. Dammit it all... Naruto is a bit like DBZ in that aspect I guess.

Hell yeah I read that Chapter! Flytrap Guy has a name now: Zetsu. We can finally call him by his real name. I can't wait 'till Kisame beats some sense into Gai for forgetting him like that! Not that I dislike Gai of course, he is one of the funniest characters (Some of his scenes with Kakashi are hysterical) and he has the immortal 'Good Guy Pose'!

Gai: That is right! I promise you, I won't let that Shark-Man beat me and my team down! Isn't that right Lee?!

Lee: You are right as always Gai-Sensei! That Kisumi won't stand a chance against the power of youth!

Kisame: That is Kisame you pair of thick brows! Besides who needs that gay 'Nice Guy Pose' when you are a sexy and deadly shark? You all cannot deny it, t3h ladies luv me.

-.- On second thought, scratch that little script. Anyway, I'm really looking forward to the upcoming fight and seeing how the Akatsuki handles Gaara.

You think that my fanfic is good, and you up to the sixth chapter! o.0 Dude, back then, my fanfic was ****ing crap. Comparing to what it is now... well, let me tell ya'. If you keep on reading it, you'll love the later chapters man. I won't say anymore, might spoil things for ya'. But believe me, things get more intense.

Riaf
8th April 2005, 3:34 AM
Yeah, ever since Sasuke learned of Orochimaru, he's benn going for sheer power over strategies. I just hope that the other characters don't follow his footsteps, because then we have another Dragon Ball Z on our hands...

I'm not sure, but it may be the red milk she drinks. :p But I seriuosly disagree with her, because she's saying that the age of someone limits their capablities. Ohh, how I hate the word "Limits"...it just sucks if you can do something.

Still. Shino gets mosquito bites, bee stings, stuff like that every single day. I'm sure the body of an Aburme contains the immune system nesscary to cope with it but the sheer irration would kill me.

If you've ever went to Naruto Central and seen their flashes, you'd see the HILARIOUS selections of voices. Temari's all high-picthed, Gaara's a thug, Lee's a nerd, Ibiki's a...god-awful teacher, I tell you that. Man, you just *have* to see them.

I'm talking about Naruto. Sasuke may still be the ******* who betrayed Konoha to him. Kakashi said it may be taboo but look at Chouji. Naruto may still hate him from the days of Genin traing. Naruto'll probably be all " OMG, you're like, the **** that betrayed us all! Go screw yourself in hell!" when they see him.

Eh, Kishi just wouldn't want him to die if the series wasn't at an end. When the final fight against Atasuki arises, I think that some Lefs should die, at least one who leaves a greater impact on the group than Sasuke did.

As for your fic, I'm now on like 14. It's getting interesting but it's realllllly simialr to the manga. And HK likes the shipping! And don't even deny it. Though Flame is as funny as hell, what's Blue name? The suspense is killing me. Oh, and I can't really read Roman Numberals so what chapter are you on?

HK
8th April 2005, 4:58 AM
I still think that people should give it more time before they claim that Naruto will become the next DBZ... and what sucks even more is that DBGT is on right now... meh, but Sasuke has abandoned strategy for just sheer, raw power. He is taking the old Naruto approach. Personally, as far as ninjas are considered and what they truly are, I think it was best examplified when Naruto and Sasuke worked together to help out Kakashi from Zabuza in the first arc of the manga. Things have certainly changed since then, I'll talk about that in a later post...

T3h r3ad milk!!!!!1111oneoneone >> But yeah, I am not too found on limitations and crap either. IMO, it is possible to go further than what your body and mind has set for you; even if the effects afterwards are bad, you can still do it.

As for Shino, like I said, he would get used to it. Yeah, the annoyance would be bad at first, but considering that the entire clan has it and they live through it everyday of their lives, than it shouldn't be too much of an annoyance.

Is this of the actual anime or mockery of some supposed dub voices? Meh, if you can provide a link, then I'll check it out. Too damn lazy man. :D

As for Naruto's thoughts on Sasuke... well, here is my two cents: Naruto obviously hates what Sasuke has done, betraying and forsaking his comrades, leaving Konoha behind, throwing away Sakura's affection, and never treating him like a true equal and rival. Yeah, Naruto has plenty of good reasons to hate him. But Naruto isn't that kind of guy; with what him and Sasuke have gone through, he wants to bring back Sasuke for the good of everyone. He cares about him like the brother that he never had, much like he cares about Iruka like the father that he never had. Despite Sasuke's faults (And he sure as hell has got a helluva lot of them), Naruto still cares about him like a brother and wants Sasuke to aknowledge his strength.

See, that is why I think that the final battle will be between Naruto and Sasuke. I have a feeling that Orochimura will be killed way before than (And Kabuto will die and painful death while admitting to Naruto that he was totally wrong and that he was a ****ing dick :D Hey, we all got top have some character to hate, right?). The Akatsuki will be cut down in the meantime, with Sasuke either still on the run, intent on killing Itachi, or else captured in Konoha, oblivious to the rest of the world as he awaits his trial for his crimes (Which is why I hate it when people always talk about Sasuke coming back to Konoha, he will be forgiven, and then he will revive his Uchiha Clan with Sakura and will live happily ever after. -.- AW, HELL NO!!). Eventually, the Akatsuki will be done for, and Sasuke will learn that Naruto (Or someone close to Naruto by then) had killed Itachi, and goes psycho (Like he isn't already?). He tries to kill someone close to Naruto (Either if someone else killed Itachi, or maybe the likes of Iruka or Sakura since they are both probably the most important people in his life as of this moment. Think of the possibilities!), which makes Naruto get mad as ****ing hell; thus, their inevitable battles ensues...

... then of course, that is just how I would like it. While that ending would leave some people unhappy obviously, I think that would seem more like the practical ending without the too cliche ending for the manga. And yes, there will be plenty of main characters deaths along the way dammit! Kill of a big character Kishimoto!! Don't turn it into a DBZ!! :P

As of right now for my fanfic, I'm up to Chapter XXI, or Chapter 21. If you need help on the Roman Numerals, just use the stickified thread in the Author's Cafe concerning them. But you are getting to the better parts of my fanfic now, and with my last few chapters, it is only getting better. The first part was unoriginal and crappy, but the latter is a helluva lot better. I won't spoil anything for ya' (Again), but I do enourage ya' to keep on reading it.

Riaf
9th April 2005, 3:58 AM
I just love how the people in Naruto are so tactical. It really makes me jealous because they're able to get so much great strategies wihtin little time. Especially Shikamaru, who was able to nearly beat Tayuya wiht a limmited amount of supplies. I was really ****** when Naruto, someone I see almost the same personality as me, got that awesome strategy against Zabuza. I head to re-read that like 5 times to understand it. >.<

Actually Lee did have reprecussions when fighting Kinamaro. Gaara asked him why Lee suddenly sucked since their fight. Lee told him that he didn't let his body progess.

Yeah, if you are determined to your goal, you shouldn't give in to crap like that...y'know, I'll re-reaed that Kiba and Naruto fight. Listening to Going Under, talking about this...I need to read that agian. ...That was good.

I'm sure if it's a mockery or whatever, but it's hilarious. Here's the link.
http://narutocentral.com/index.php?page=content/extras/flashmovies.html

I'm sure Naruto still wants that from Sasuke, considering they're still rivals with each other. But whenever Naruto hears about him, he will immeditaley have a negative thought before a positive one. I mean that, we all know what Sakura's reaction would be but Naruto might not think very calmly in that situtation. Then Sasuke mimicing Orochimaru's laugh might compltetly piss Naruto off. But, knowing Naruto, he'd probably not charge after him in rage. I just think that the years with Jiriaya has made him realize that, like Orochimaru, Sasuke cannot again be considered the firend he once was before.

Orochiamru's, let alone Kabuto's, importance to the series seems to be steadily decreasing. Ever since the end of the Sasuke/Naruto fight, they never really seemed really imporatnt. So it may possible that they will die soon. I wonder if Kishi will try to make us feel bad about them dying...knowing him he might (most likely with Kabuto, sorry, HK :p).

If Sasuke became like that, I think that it'd be so cool if Sasuke was *just* about kill Naruto, but Kakashi comes from nowhere and stabs him with the Chidori. Sasuek falls to the floor, dying, and is forced to listen to Kakashi preach to him about how friends actually make one stronger, rather than solely fighting in an endless rage of darkness against someone who cannot be defeated by a soul the same as his own. Sasuke's all "That's ********, you mother ****er. " And Itachi (who's actually Sakura in disguise) says it's true and that's how why he was able to be defeated by the likes of Naruto/Shino/TenTen/Lee/Shikamaru (What? It could happen.) As Sasuke's heart starts to beat slowly, he begins to regret his actions. He dies and Sakura slaps him in rage. She begins to descrat him, but Naruto stops her. He says he has forgottoen the error of his ways, now that the gods are full wiht him. Sakura begins to cry as she clucthes Naruto. Hinata and Ino arrive to the funeral weeks later and Hinata notices Sakura crying on Naruto. Ino remarks that with Sasuke gone, Naruto seems to be the new ladykiller around. She wonders if she can follow the trend that Hinata had set like Sakura did...

Heh, just a thought.

HK
9th April 2005, 6:03 AM
Lol, I agree with ya' man. I wish that I could come up with those type of strategies when it comes to making up excuses for not doing HW man. :D But that is my own problem. And honestly, when I first read the plan Naruto came up with, it was like watching Homer Simpson beating out Steven Hawking in an IQ test. It was so unlike Naruto, and it went right past me. I got it after reading it about the 7th time though. :p

However, Lee's abilities are effected just by short-term. I think that if he kicks some serious *** in this upcoming Akatsuki fight, then it will just show that there are no big reprucussions for making a mistake. Seriously, I would like it if like... I dunno', some people are complaining that Gaara will suck if Shukaku is taken out of him. If Kishi' is able to stick to it and have Shukaku removed from him, it will bring repruscussions that are unavoidable. We will see how good Gaara is without having Shukaku to fall back on (Personally, I think that he wouldn't be as bad as some people like to say). That is what I am trying to say.

Yeah, the Naruto and Kiba fight was one of my favorite fights in the entire Naruto Manga. I always liked Kiba as a character, despite that fans try to say that he is the Naruto Clone without the Youma and devotion to helping those precious to him; that is total BS. Plus, that fight is where people started to recognize and respect Naruto, and the Neji fight continued on with that. Plus, it had possibly the most creative way of winning a fight ever, and maybe one of the funniest (Maybe not the total ending, but I'm sure you know what moment that I'm talking about).

Alright man, I'll check that out tomorrow. Thanks for the link.

Actually... ever since his fight with Sasuke, we don't know how Naruto, Sakura, or hell, anyone else feels. The only times in which Sasuke has been brought up was when Kakashi mentioned it to both Naruto and Sakura before his bell test in Chapter 246 (Both didn't react positively, I loved Kakashi's expression when he saw them moping); the other one was when Sakura was thinking about how Itachi had hurt Sasuke and was hunting down Naruto. They obviously still care about him because all they went through before, but we don't know anyones' thoughts on Sasuke and what they feel about him. I have a feeling we will find out soon, either when Team 7 encounters Itachi, or else when the Sasuke Rescue Mission; Part Deux occurs. That should happen fairly soon, seeing as they have only three months until Orochimura can switch bodies.

Speaking of Orochi', yeah, I can see them getting killed off. Although I hope that Kishimoto doesn't try to make Kabuto's death sad, either he sacrifices himself to save Orochimura, or else Naruto kicks his *** so hard that he makes him **** out of his mouth. :D Meh, I can only hope man...

o.0 Interesting theory about the end... heh, you know, that thoughts just crossed my mind. Naruto seems to actually be the lady's man as of late. Ever since he saw Kisame, you know that the Shark Man's sexiness has taught Naruto how to get the girls. T3h Shark S3xinessssss... and now with that badass attiude and with the upcoming fight, Kisame might get some respect for once. But for Naruto becoming the ladie's man, I could actually see that. Jiraiya giving him talks about how many men wish for opportunities like Naruto could get. You know, I think that I would laugh my *** off if Ino flirted with Naruto of all things; Kishimoto did even say himself that romance would play a pretty large role in Part 2 of Naruto. I guess me not getting involved in the whole 'Shipping Crap', as I liked to think of it, is impossible for me. I have to choose what shippings I like... I never thought that this day would come, HellKorn, a.k.a. HK, a.k.a. Wolfman, will get involved in romance in an anime/manga! 0.o

As for your ending though, it seemed a bit random to me, but I did like the part with Kakashi interferring. I was half-expecting him to get cross up in the end of the Naruto/Sasuke fight at the end, with Sasuke trying to attack Kakashi then running away or something. I have a feeling that once Naruto and Sasuke fight again, Kakashi will get involved next time. Then, as fate would have it, Kakashi would meet up with Obito again, via Chidori from Sasuke. Oh, the irony of the student killing the teacher. Oh wait, that seems to be the case quite often in the world of Naruto. Ya' know, I wouldn't be suprised if Kishi' had Sauke either attempt or truly kill Kakashi. Just an afterthought.

Edit- Damn, I put a helluva lot of thought into that post man.

Riaf
10th April 2005, 7:11 AM
****, I had it all typed up and my computer backed up on me...I'll have to rewrite everything now....

Naruto, after charging into Zabuza's water clone, began to realize that he couldn't rely on sheer force like he did with Mizuki. If he couldn't beat 1/10th of Zabuza's strength, then he'd have to defeat his wit. He remembered how Kakashi scolded him earlier when he was screwing around with his shuriken and realized he had the windmill shuriken in his bag. With the Henge and Shadow Windmill Justus in mind, he presented Sasuke with the plan. Yeah, that took me 5 readings.

There is no way in hell that Naruto and Kiba are clones of each other. They really only share the “Wildman” personality. Seriously, Kiba’s relations with Akamaru are a far greater love that Naruto has ever felt before. With the possible exception of Shino, Kankuro and Gai, no one in Naruto really loves their pets. That’s one quality of Kiba that stands out above the rest, his loyalty to his dog. Hell, he even stabbed himself to ensure Akamaru’s safety.

I’m guessing you’ve seen yet?

I know that we don’t know how anyone feels about sasuke (Heh, he doesn’t even deserve to have a capital. :p) gone. (‘Snot like many people cared, sasuke really only affected Naruto, Sakura, and Kakashi) But I’m saying that Naruto probably thinks that it’s a piss off to have sasuke leave him like that. He has a hole from when sasuke left, a permanent scar that will never heal. And I don’t think that Naruto will easily forgive sasuke for that.

Yeah, Kabuto ain’t so cool. He ditched Naruto, then came back to diss him, made him look like a total n00b and worked for an enemy who was very evil. Oh yeah, and that whole cheery “Go kick the crap out of everyone so you can lose your soul” thing just doesn’t work for me.

Yeah, I mean, how can someone who put Ash, Misty and a pair of Nidorans together get sucked into shipping? :p But it probably would be hilarious if Ino tried flirting Naruto. Considering they couldn’t care less about the other, it’d be hilarious. It’d be:

Ino: Oh, Narrrrrrrrrr~~~~~uto-kun!

Naruto: Gack! Get off me!

Ino: What are you talking about? I can’t let you go, especially to that hag, Sakura!

Naruto: N-no…I ha-have to b-b-breathe…

Sakura: Ino, you pig! Get your claws from my man!

Ino: Your man?! I wooed him first!

Sakura: What?! Then’ll get 1000 kisses from him in a week!

Hinata; Nar-narut-naruto-kun…

Naruto: Huh? Gah! Hinata, how did you turn into my new perverted justu that I was inspired to recreate after seeing fans ogle about you?!

Yeah.

Kakashi’s and Jiraiya deaths are becoming to be inevitable. Man, do the fans, like not like white-haireds?

HK
10th April 2005, 7:53 PM
Yeah, that sucks when you have to re-write stuff. Happens to me quite a lot in the Debate Forum and occasionly on the Fanfiction Forum. Oh well, on with the post.

Yeah, that was truly confusing. When I first read it, it was Viz's translation. I'm not really trying to knock on them or nothing (Although when comparing to the ones online, seriously, I don't give a damn about what Dogasu says; there is indeed a difference between it. Not so much where it takes away the story completely, but just a lot of small things make it bleh sometimes), but their translation made it truly confusing. Oh well, thank God that I found the online ones.

Yeah, I hate it when people compare Kiba to Naruto and he is just another clone. Seriously, they are just loud and obnoxious, that is all. If anything, Naruto and Ino share more attributes in common (I'll talk about that later). But yeah... oh, and don't forget Shizune. You know, Tsunade's helper or whatever? She seems to take care of Tsunade's pig, Ton-Ton.

I'll get around to it after I get my shower and crap. From what you have told me though, they should be funny.

After what sasugay (Lol, you are right, he shouldn't get a capital) has done, no one should forgive. If is does come back and doesn't die at the end, then Kishimoto will have to do a lot for me to actually make me believe that he changed and that Konohaguruke can accept him. Otherwise, you are going to witness one very ****** off HK.

Like I said, in about every story that I have ever read/watched, there usually has to be a character that you hate. Kabuto in Naruto is definitely one for me. I want Naruto to pwn his *** if they fight each other, or at least let Orochimura kill him. Now that would be ironic.

Hey, I did the Nidoran thing with Braveheart and Allure just to add some comedy and also foreshadow Mariah's character. As for the Ash/Misty thing... meh, I just did. If you just look at it, I did an awful job, because I'm not into shipping at all... except for maybe Naruto... damn you Riaf!!

Heh, t3h Blondshipping for Naruto and Ino. Actually, I think that if Hinata hadn't shown up, and it was possible for Sasuke and Sakura to get together, then people would've paired them up. You know, like the whole 'mend your heart when you loose the one you care about the most' thing? But yeah, aside from Ino helping Sakura cheer on Naruto when he fought Neji, they never interracted. Although it would be funny if Ino flirted with Naruto. It would be something to how when she was first introduced at the start of the Chuunin Exam, or something like that.

Lol, I like the script thing. It shows the bias and idiocy of some fans out there... which only makes me question, while the ****ing hell is Hinata so ****ing popular?

As for Kakashi and Jiraiya (Kakashi has silver hair dude :p), I think that by the end of it all, Kakashi will die. Kishi' might have a truly emotional and heart-wrenching end where Kakashi thinks back to Obito and Rin (Although he never specifically stated is she was dead or not; that still bugs me man), and I can see him dieing looking up at the sky and seeing their faces. As for Jiraiya... people seem to think that he will die (I used to), but the more that I think about it, I doubt he will.

Btw, final note. Thanks for reviewing my fanfic man. Check out my full response to it in the thread; I really like it that you gave your own thoughts about the Rockets in the fanfic, and your comparisons to how they are compared to some Naruto characters. :p I'm telling ya' man, Naruto is easily my favorite manga right now, and if the dub is good or else I eventually get around to the sub, it will probably be my favorite anime as well.

Riaf
11th April 2005, 4:56 AM
Damn, I'm serious; this computer doesn't want me to post here. It always freaking backfires on me! I try to save it all on a floppy, incase like a parent sees it or the comp screws up again, and it still doesn’t work! At this rate, I’ll never get write my fic! Lousy computer!

Anyways, I think that the fan scans aren’t completely superior to Viz’s. I’m already pushing it as it is with my family with the whole manga business and “Ninja Centerfold Attack” helps a lot.

Dude! You forgot Shizune’s position! That’s not cool, man. She’s Tsunade’s apprentice! Not some lame “helper”! And Ton Ton really Tsunade’s? Because she doesn’t seem to care about him.

It is, trust me. The third one is the funniest, escepiclay with Ibiki. He rocks as a teacher! : p

After what sasuke has done, I doubt anyone could forgive. I mean, other than Kakashi, Naruto and Sakura, no one else seemed to actually “love” him. Ino probably has moved on from sasuke, seeing she never spoke about liking him after cheering him on at the Chunin Exam, and also didn’t jump to see sasuke after the mission failed. TenTen and Temari got crushes on him that disappeared right after they got’em. As for the people who do, Naruto, I have serious doubts about him forgiving him. Sakura most likely would, but would react normally at first. Kakashi may not, hell, he might even kill him!

Wow, you really hate Kabuto. What’s your reason, seeing as Anakin Sywalker is the same?

How does it foreshadow Mariah? But, true, I am the person capable of turning people to shipping. I should try Dogasu or Edward Elric…

I don’t mind Blondeshipping, but if it does happen then the very fbric of reality may have been unraveled upon us. :P But seriously, I think that Naruto will be some pimp with Ino, Sakura, Hinata and maybe Temari when this is all over. I can smell it.

I think Hinata may be the most popular is because; only the rookies were 12 during the exams, right? Notice that Hinata’s is larger compared to Sakura’s and Ino’s?

HK
12th April 2005, 5:09 AM
Meh, this computer screwing around is... well, I have some problems with my own. But on with the discussion!

"Ninja Centerfold Attack"?! o.0 Meh, well, Viz does an all right job with the translations, but there are sometimes when they just go damn-near completely away from the original context. Also, there release dates of the manga volumes. Seriously, there is a reason as to why Rurouni Kenshin is their best selling manga in the US. It is now released monthly, they do amazing job translating it, and they don't try to change the characters around slightly.

Meh, I could go on about the specifics and crap, but I think that eventually they should take out Naruto from the monthly Shonen Jump (Or at least put out more chapters reguarly, at least three an issue; otherwise, they'll never catch up and will pretty much force people to view scanlations of the manga online); just how they did with Dragon Ball Z. Plus, at least devote some time to it and actually realize: 'Hey, we leave all of the names they same and don't try to move around what the characters and keep the original names in Rurouni Kenshin. Why not do the same in Naruto since it seems that a lot of people aren't happy about that?'

-.- Point proven I hope.

Sorry, it is just that Shizune hasn't had much focus on her except for when Kabuto commented on her skills and when she was talking with Naruto and Jiraiya. As for Ton Ton though, he is Tsunade. The only problem is the Godaime doesn't have enough time to spend with the pig since she is now the Hokage obviously.

Alright, sorry, still haven't checked it out, but I do have an excuse: I've been busy! :p Seriously though, I'll check it out tomorrow for sure. Been just doing a helluva lot recently.

Yeah, that is the problem. I can honestly say that every girl whoever liked sasugay had a crush on him (Sakura might be the exception, we'll just wait and see later on. Although I would mad as ****ing hell if Sakura still feels 'love' for him; I'll go on a rant about that in my next post I do. These SasuSaku and NaruHina idiots are starting to piss me off. *Yes, I'm now getting into shipping thanks to you... I hate you Riaf* Also, I think that I'm going to join that Naruto Forums pretty damn soon) no longer like him now. As for their reactions though, I cannot honestly say that they will have a set reaction. Although I doubt that Kakashi would kill him though; he felt a lot of connection with sasugay and even that, I don't think he would kill him espicially after then.

Actually, Anakin Skywalker isn't the same. He was good from the beginning and was mislead by Palpantine. Kabuto was just a traitor and had a a-hole quality about him for a long time. Dude, think about that for a second; there is a big difference between the two.

Basically it shows that the character Blue (Green in the US) will show up in the story later; this was when Braveheart mentioned her in Chapter III (Chapter 3) and Chapter V (Chapter 5). Plus, there were other mentions of it. Oh, as for turning Dogasu and Edward Elric over in shipping... heh, if you want your *** to get burned and pwned, fine with me. I mean, you got me to care about shipping in Naruto because it plays a pretty obvious and big role in it; other mangas/animes don't (Unless they are centered around it, but you won't be catching me reading those. :p) Dogasu I don't know too well, and Edward Elric is way too much of a hardass to do it (Not saying that is a bad thing, I really like his outlook on life and think that he is funny as hell). But hey, if you do try it, I'll simply watch back and put in my snide comments here and there...

I have a feeling that girls will flock to Naruto because basically, he learned from just looking at Kisame on how to be a true pimp; use your animalistic charm bi-hotch!

Uhh... you lost me on the Hinata explanation thing. You'll either have to edit it, or just explain it better; I'm sorry, but I didn't understand a damn thing. XP

Riaf
13th April 2005, 7:19 PM
Viz's ain’t as bad as people accuse them to be. They are usually put in good quality, instead of some scans (especially the Gaara kicking Naruto's *** part). Also, it looks like sasuke's using Sharigan in one panel of the sasuke/Haku part. Not exactly high quality. Also, it’s always a treat to see the one page-talks things. Not to mention his random drawings.

Viz does keep the names of all the characters and doesn’t move the people around as well. WTF are you talking about?

I thought that TonTon had some weird power, like he can release charka in a blast of air through his snout. Or something like that. But what I found funny this that on Naruto-Kun, there’s a picture of TonTon instead of TenTen. :p

I’m serious, you should see them. Any Naruto fan should.

Yeah, Ino probably has moved on from sasuke, considering she rather would have checked up on Chouji, a good friend (There’ll probably be a shipping on that) than check up on sasuke, who she swore to never give up to Sakura. She didn’t say anything like, “Oh yeah, I’ll check him too!” And Temari seems to have Shikamaru. It seems inevitable that Ino and Chouji will get with each other. Sakura has sasuke stuck with her, showing that Sakura has a gap in heart of him. But what she doesn’t realize is that sasuke wants Orochimaru to rape him. (I’m serious, this isn’t bashing, and considering sasuke was all “Do it NOW! Give me some!” its canon.)

Possibly, but you forgot the theme of Naruto. “Everyone has the pleasure of crappy childhoods.” Kabuto had was a bottom-feeder at a young age and, if you re-read 88, you’ll see that his relationship with Orochimaru is questionable. I’m just saying, expect for Kishi to try to pull another Haku on us.

Meh, I knew that the Nidoran would be Maraih’s in the first place so I didn’t really notice that as foreshadowing. Edward Elric was in the Full Metal Alchemist Shipping thread for like, a day, and he was all “Ed/Winry’s obvious.” Of course, snot like he was enthusiastic about in the first place…but he may think that shipping is interesting on some degree. Dogasu, I’m a bit scared of doing that to him. For some reason. But I should give it a shot, maybe next time talks about Naruto.

Ever notice how Kisame has lines on his cheek like Naruto? And also has the most chakra out of Atasuki? And how’s he’s above a human’s looks? Maybe he’s the “Sexy Crocodile Youma” or summat…

Hinata’s rack was the biggest out of the Genin rookies. And it still is, unless Ino had a growth spurt.

stormmage769
13th April 2005, 10:37 PM
im up to voliume 6 (the latest one) in fact i have the rest the previous voliume's (from the first to now) as well

Riaf
13th April 2005, 10:44 PM
Crap, it's out already?! ****, I need to get to it...

EDIT: HK, when you're done reading the next chapter, it's Gaara. Naruto. Kisame. And that cliffhanger.

HK
17th April 2005, 6:35 PM
Heh, sorry about not replying for a while. Just been thinking about where I'm screwing up in the life (And that is plenty of areas), and I've come to the conclusions of... well, things. Meh, not really going to talk about anything like that to you except I'm going to mention where I stand on fanfics right now. Bleh, enough talk; when I get to it, you'll know.

I actually still subscribe to Shonen Jump (Dunno' why though...), and I got the latest issue (June 2005) last Friday. To be fair, Viz has improved on translating Naruto. They actually use Chuunin now (Except t hey use ^, which is basically the same thing), and they have been starting to use the Japanese names (For instance, they had Naruto say: 'KAGEBUNSHIN *Should be two words though...* NO JUTSU! Then they gave what they named it in their translation). 'Cause of that, I'm not going to rag on them as much now. ^.^;

What I mean is that they use words that didn't originally fit into the text, and occasionly the characters say/act things that they didn't do in the original. Meh, I'll name some specifics in another post.

Now onto what matters in this post :D... I'm interested if TonTon actually plays a role or at least shows up in Part 2. Because I have read a few fanfics where it mentions him, and he only shows up in a few panels in the manga. o.0 Same goes for TenTen, although I thought that it was cool when Kishi' had her summon weapons (The bomb used against Kisame in Chapter 256); perhaps Kishi' might do something with her character... or not.

Just a bit of a random thought for ya': you thinking of joining 'Naruto Forums'? I'm going to this next weekend, and I was wondering if you were thinking about it. We could take the place by storm with our ranting; we'd fit right in their with a few of the people that I've seen there. :p

Lol, I like the canon hint of Sasuke and Orochimura. Seriously, if some people are going to take some things as canon and go with them into their little romance crap, then they should accept that then. -.- But yeah, the minor pairings in Naruto are pretty much decided (For the most part... I think :P). Oh, and btw, I'll talk more about pairings and the characters themselves later on in this post (If you haven't noticed by now), since I"ve been re-reading a lot of the manga recently (I've been feeling... nostalgic).

Re-reading the manga (See, it is already coming up with me), I don't hate Kabuto *coughasmuchcough*. >.> I actually kinda' like his myterious... ness, a bit after all (Kinda' reminds me of Itachi; I'll talk about him later as well). But yeah, I forsee Kishi' pulling something on us with Kabuto and Sasuke... hopefully they'll both die in the end though. >: ) I don't care if they atone for thsemlves; if they die in the end, I'll be happy.

Edward Elric is kinda' like me when it comes to shipping; if it is there and obvious, fina, accept it. The only one manga/anime that I'm really into the pairings is Naruto (Thanks Riaf... -.-), since Romance is easily the most involved. I don't 'support' pairings outside of that though; just like accept. I'm sure that you might be able to get Edward Elric into somewhat (If it is one of his more favorite manga/anime; Full Metal Alchemist would be a good start obviously)... Dogasu not too srue about though. While I wouldn't say that we have a history, we haven't really agreed on things as such .He claimed that he hates it when people (Me in this case) ***** about the Naruto Manga being changed by Viz (Hell, even Edward Elric goes about that, and yet Dogasu never gets on him about that -.-). While I did say that Viz should at least try to bring translations of Naruto better, I didn't go into the obsessed fanboy view and ***** about Naruto getting liscensed (I just want a decent dub for Christ's Sake), and that Viz should realize that people want good transaltions of the manga; this is evident that people complained because they have been making more of an effort in the past few chapters. We also didn't agree on posting a link to scans of One Piece Manga; he said that it isn't allowed, and yet there isn't a rule against it. I took it off anyway though, I didn't want to make it a big arguement.

It isn't that I dont' respect Dogasu (He is one of the more knowledgable anime/manga user on this forum), but I just have had some very minor disagreements with him before; I don't like his attitude in general. Edward Elric I'm used to, because I see what he is like outside of anime/manga, and I share similar views of life as him.

Meh, enough of this mod talk. Yeah, I noticed about Kisame's 'gills' as well. I wouldn't be suprised if he had a Youma inside of him as well (Or a Bijuu, or however it is spelt; the reference to what Chiyo *The old lady* said in this past chapter). That would explain his high amount of chakra, considering Neji even compared to the amount to Naruto's; and that is only 70%. o.0 Now people are going to talk about how Kisame is 'overrated'. -.-

As far as Hinata having the biggest bust out of the genin girls (Chouji doesn't count. :p Sorry, been cracking fat jokes all weekend), I'll check on that. To be fair, I think that Kishi' should give out answers to perverts in the form of Jiraiya. Ya' know, like when the fans ask questions before to Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura? Something like that. I think that would be a hilarious 'interview'. XD

Meh, I finally get to talk about how I've been re-reading the manga and such. Well, here is goes:

Something very obvious has just hit me when looking over the manga (I've been looking over the Chuunin Prelims and the little mini-arc after They got Tsunade and before Sasuke left); Kisihi' drops very, very subtle hints. In one of the chapters coverpages a drunken Gai is offering Lee some sake, but Lee tells him that he can't learn that Drunken Fist until he is twenty one. This chapter page was during the Chuunin Prelim fights, I believe the fight between Lee and Gaara. Much, much later on, we see Lee using the Drunken Fist Technique against Kimimoro (I know that isn't how his name is spelt; I forget how to do it). I smacked myself when I saw that, and then it hit me: one of the more important themes in Naruto, from Kakashi himself, is to read underneath the underneath.

I think that some chapter cover pages do hint of the future (i.e. Naruto and Gamabunta in Chapter 3 Cover Page), and there are other small hints in the manga that lead to the future. While I remember finding a lot more specifics about it (I even found something that no one else has thought of yet; and I am not joking here), I don't remember what they were right now. I'll eventually get back to ya' on that.

One more thing... where is the discussion here? Did I scare everyone of? Come on people, I don't bite! Oh well, I can say that I'm proud because this thread has the most posts out of the all the threads in the Alternate Manga Section here (Which isn't too hard sadly -.-), and the views for it are amazing. Maybe people come here just to see you and me talk about Naruto? Heh, we are celebraties Riaf... at least I would like to think so.

MachopGirl
17th April 2005, 9:26 PM
Riaf, HellKorn, I think you had already knew this, but this little spoiler was actually posted in one of my art topic a LONG time back. It mentioned Naruto's real parents.

If I remembered correctly:
The 4th Hokage is Naruto's father (hence we can see the resemblance) and the Kyuubi that once destroyed the village is his mother.


Oh yeah, I even drawn a few Naruto Pokémorphs. So far (if you've been to my online gallery), I've done Naruto/Ninetales, Sakura/Machoke, and Sasuke/Umbreon. I've been planning to draw Kakashi/Blaziken and Gaara/Sandslash. I had trouble deciding which Pokémon to morph with a few other characters. Can you help me?

So far I got:
Kakashi/Blaziken
Gaara/Sandslash
Ino/Dragonair
Chuji/Snolax
Temari/Absol

HK
17th April 2005, 9:53 PM
Heh, wondering where you were MachopGirl! Well, thought I would reply to it:

I have heard that theory countless times MG. Despite it being a bit unoriginal, I do like it though. I mean, I find it difficult that Yondaime would just pick a random baby from some parents and use him as Kyuubi's vessel. Although Kyuubi doing it with Yondaime... well, isn't Kyuubi supposed to be a female or something? Meh, I just have some doubts about that. I think that Naruto's mother either will be someone we haven't been introduced yet, or we will never know and just figure out his father(Something like how it was with Jak 3; for those who played through it, you know what I'm talking about).

BTW, can you post a link to your online gallery for me? I would like to check out your artwork. Oh, and as for ones to decide, I think that Gaara/Sandslash one would be good (Considering it fits pretty dman well, and when Gaara went crazy I think your design would look kinda' close to that one) and you might want to do Chouji/Snorlax (Just 'cause I feel like fat jokes this weekend :p). You should do the others though.

MachopGirl
20th April 2005, 9:48 PM
My online gallery's located in my siggy. :D That's where you can see three of my Naruto Pokémorphs so far. I still need suggestions for the other characters.

HK
21st April 2005, 1:45 AM
Thanks for letting me know. I think that the Sasuke/Umbreon Pokemorph was well done; it suits his character obviously.

BTW, just curious, Riaf, MachopGirl, or anyone else; are any of you of you joining Naruto Forums? You know, the forums that is linked from NarutoFan? I'm probably joining this weekend, and I was wondering if anyone else was going to do the same.

Also, for the discussion here: What do you think might happen in Chapter 257 when it comes out tomorrow? (It probably will since it comes out either Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday) I wonder how Kishi' will be able to handle the two fights with both Kisame and Itachi simultaneously; should be interesting.

Riaf
21st April 2005, 3:17 AM
Sorry for it being so late. My mom put a time limit on computer time so it’s difficult to mange under it. But I hope you’re not planning to stop your fic.

They actually gave it’s original name, huh? Well, to be honest, I’m a bit disappointed. I actually like the English names. But, was there any cursing in it? Cuz I looked back to the March issue and they’ve replaced “Damn” with “Darn”. If this is the case, then I’ve lost all my faith in Viz. Hell, the only times curses appeared in the whole damn magazine were in One Piece, excluding “Black Dragon Hell Fire” for Hiei. Not to mention Shikamaru’s “Blast!”

Hmm, I might join. Though strangely my password doesn’t seem to work on them. Are you talking about NarutoFan’s forums?

Sorry to break it to you, but I don’t think that Sasuke will die. You see all the grievances he tries to break us with and the fact he’s Kishi’s favorite. I can see Kabuto dieing, but Sasuke is just too much of a main an important character for Kishi to simply kill off.


You’re wrong. In case you didn’t see it in the sticky thread, EE complained about that Gaara’s evil feel was ruined in the dub. Dogasu ranted his *** out of here. Another thread, Dogasu was like “Who gives a damn if they changed Sexy No Justu to Ninja Centerfold Attack?” There not that close. :p

I respect Dogasu though as well. While I dislike his attitude, I have to admit. Without his unique views, I’d definatley be a n00b ranting “The Ice of Cave eppy was banned for the SARS stuff in there” and “ Pokemon haters are meanies!”. Yes, it is a bit of a shock, but it’s true.

Kisame ain’t overrated, unless Naruto is some god. Besides, a Leaf Spinning Kick-Byakuugan-Bomb combo was enough to nearly kill him. Not exactly “godly power that no one else could catch up to”.

That’s mean to Chouji(you are lucky some n00b Chouji otaku won’t rant up your *** about that). But seriously, if he did that, I’d laugh so hard I’d spill soda from my nose. XD

You’re obviously right about that. It’s so obivous what Sakura and Sasuke will summon with the Summoning Spell. (Hint: Look at the first chapter page)

And personally, I don’t think that he’s Naruto’s dad. Its too predictable and I don’t like the sound of it. If he was his brother or uncle or something, I guess I’d like that.

Sakura/Machoke…Ino/Dragonair? Lol.XD Your imagination rocks.

Well, if the Kyuubi’s a girl, then she was very womanlike when she encountered Naruto in his…gut. (C’mon, isn’t it sexual innuendo that the Kyuubi is INSIDE him? Anyone?)

I’m really anticipating to see how Naruto’s strength has differed since their last encounter. Naruto couldn’t have been any stronger than Sasuke at the time so I really want to see this .

MachopGirl
21st April 2005, 9:54 PM
Thanks, HellKorn. It just took me a while to decide which Pokémon to morph with Sasuke. Many suggested a Dark-type, so Umbreon was picked.

As for the Naruto forums, I am still thinking about it.

Riaf
22nd April 2005, 11:36 PM
I think that Kakashi reached the Second Sharigan by either not having to kill any one or killing Rin. Another thing, TenTen couldn't breathe in the Water Prison Justu while Kakashi can. That's a theory about why he has the mask; he may have no mouth.

HK
26th April 2005, 4:33 AM
Heh, sorry for being so late. Just had a lot of **** to deal with, but now I'm back to talk about Naruto again.

I dunno' whether or not you are being real or sarcastic about Viz... but taking out the cussing isn't that big a deal. Although when they change how a character talks they are changing his personality, which annoys the ****ing hell out of me. At least they are giving the actual names now; if only they can actually give a good translation name for the Jutsus.

Yeah, I'm talking about NarutoFan's Forums. I have decided to join either this weekend or next. And what about your password problems?

Actually, Sasuke isn't Kishimoto's favorite character anymore. In a recent survey conducted by the U.S. Shonen Jump (They actually did something right for once! And yes, this was after the interview in which Kishi' said that Sasuke was his favorite character), he states that Naruto is his favorite character due to the fact thta his personality matches with his. Also, he is the easiest to draw, and get this: Sasuke is the most difficult to draw! Maybe I'm being optimistic, but I have a feeling that Sasuke could possibly die. And I know that I sound like a Sasuke-hater (In truth, he is one of my more favorite characters, although his whining is something I hate about him), I'll explain more about him later on. I feel like I should rant about why the fact people should stop saying that Sasuke won't die and that he will live peacefully in Konoha and have kids there with Sakura. -.- Oh yeah, I have to rant about that.

Meh, so I was wrong about EE and Dogasu. Anyway, yeah, I do respect Dogasu's knowledge and all that, I just don't like him; wouldn't be suprised if he felt the same way about me (If even thinks about HellKorn >>). Edward Elric is a hardass but he makes sense; plus I've seen him on other sub-forums here on SPPF, and I think that he is one of the more wiser persons on here.

No, Kisame should never be overrated; despite what some of the haters might say. Oh, and btw, he wasn't almost killed by that combo. He was taken off-guard and would've been injured severely, but I doubt that would've killed him like that. That is why he hasn't given a real strong impression until recently; he underestimates his opponent which lands him in a bit of trouble. Although I was a bit mad that Rock Lee, Tenten, and Neji were caught so easily in a trap that not even low-level Genins would be caught up in. -.- Oh well, I guess that Kishi' wanted a one on one fight (Considering they are a lot easier to draw and write).

Meh, I like Chouji actually. But I truly do wish that he had died. Don't misunderstand me though; it is just that he was in the best position for a nice peaceful death. He proved that he could do something, that he wasn't just a porker that never trained. He gave his all in a match that no one thought he would win, and he had a serene look when thinking about his friendship with Shikamura and how he always looked out for him. Plus, the butterflies. I'm sure that you already know that in the Asian Culture it means death (Or at least I think it is Asian Culture; it might be just Japanese. I'll have to check on that). All of that had something. Neji could've gone either way, as he had a place to die but he spoke as though he still had something more left to accomplish. I just wish that there are some characters deaths or at least fights that leave long-lasting effects.

Oh, speaking of the Summoning Hints, I just remembered what I came to the realization of. While this theory really sucks (It isn't that it isn't believable, but I just don't like the outcome), remember Kakashi's team when he was younger (In Kakashi's Gaiden). Obito was quite similar to Naruto, Kakashi as with Sasuke, and Run with Sakura. Seriously Obito was hyper, spoken down to, and his comarades were truly important to him. Kakashi has the tragic past with having to be known as the Genius and never to disapoint. Rin didn't get much backgorund and is a pretty good medical-nin. See now?

To sum it all up, in some odd circumstances, Kakashi Gaiden repeats itself (With variations obviously) with Naruto being killed valiantly, Sasuke taking something from him, Sakura being taken hostage, Kakashi coming back, the whole damn thing. If that were to happen though, I would personally go to Japan and seek out Kishimoto's medical records to see if has done any drugs in the past.

Now, before you say that I'm an idiot (Although you'll probably say that anyway XD), note that I doubt that this will happen (I don't think that Kishi' will repeat things like that). This is only something to kinda' wonder and think about. Like Kakashi has stated quite a few times before, you have to read underneath the underneath. Just a thought.

Oh, and the thing about Yondaime being Naruto's father. I think that it is a possibility. Also, in reference to the Kyuubi being a woman; there is a legend or folklore that concerns that the Nine-Tailed Fox becoming a woman and seducing men into... well, I think that you know where it went from there obviously. Well, I think that it is probable, and there is a reason why the Kyuubi would do these acts. Have to read up on it again though to remember.

I look forward to this upcoming chapter that will be released next week sadly. Well, that gives us more time for speculation. XD I can't wait man.

Riaf
26th April 2005, 6:01 AM
I sorta care about the cursing. Sorry but seeing Shikamaru yelling "Blast!", or Dosu and Zaku exclaim "Darn!" is waaaaaaaay to OOC for me. Meh, I guess I'm like Edward Elric and Dogasu in that sense.

Nvm. I already joined. When are coming on?

Yay! He's not the favorite anymore! He has a chance of dying! But seriously, I know why Sasuke's the hardest. Since he's now a bad guy, he has those face of complete graveness. He'll wear spooky expressions. It's so god damn hard to pull off on Sasuke's charater. If you see the beginning of the Sasuke and The Sound Five part, you'll see what I mean. His face looks so frikking ulgy.

Dogasu isn't always like a stereotypical jackass. He was quite nice to me when he PM'd me about how my Ibiki pic in my sig was to big. Hell, I didn't see any hostility from him at all! He didn't even delete it from my sig (I had to do it for my self) when the rules said he had the power to do so. EE's not that much of a hardass. In fact, I barely see him as one. Though I wonder; what bashing has he gotten, according to Yamato-san's sig?

Also, are you entering that new Fan-Fiction thing? I am and I wonder if I can have a rivalry against a fic-writer I know pretty good.

Haha, lazy old ba$tard!:p But I say he was almost killed because he had his guard down and didn't expect a couple of fifteen year-olds to bring him down. With that attitude and being knocked down fomr a Gentle Fist, the explosive could have killed him.

Yeah, but I didn't want him to die. I just wanted his contidition to be so freaking hard on him. Ya'know, like Tsunade ran short on medicene for his crushed bones so even currently, he would be in a dangerous state. That was completely ruined when we saw that Chouji had made a week long recovery.

Rin also liked/s Kakashi as Obito liked her. Also, there is no manga next week.But the rumor about Kyuubi being Naruto's mom doesn't work out, methinks. First of all, in chapter 122, someone was holding him; I suspect his mom. And the Kyuubi's a guy. He was one in the Nartuo Pilot, at least.

HK
30th April 2005, 8:51 PM
The taking away of cussing doesn't bother me as much (Which is a bit suprising, considering my mom says I cuss like a I am in the Marines o.0), but Viz changed the words of what the characters say, which could change the meaning of everything in the scene entirely. That is what truly pisses me off about Viz's Translation of Naruto.

I'm going to join next weekend (For sure this time :p). BTW, what is your username on there. Mine will be HellKorn (How original right?! XP).

What bothers me is that people seem to have this idea that Sasuke will have a happy ending, people will except him, he will become more warm to people after either Naruto or Sakura pull him out of the darkness, and that everything will be alright. -.- I remember seeing a post by a mod on Naruto Forum about if any of that were to happen, then it would be inconsistent with his character. I would love to find the post, but I'm too lazy. I agreed with them about... 110% on the inconsistency. Sasuke wouldn't suddenly be accepted right back into Konoha after what he has done; he would be punished if he was ever brought back. Also, he isn't going to have a happy life, love Sakura and have children with her, while forgiving Itachi beforehand. Anyone who thinks is an idiot.

Believe it or not, I do actually like Sasuke (He is a ****ing *******, but I find his characters interesting. Like a few people have mentioned; his past justifies his persona, but not his actions by any means). But he isn't going to fall in love with Sakura; 257 in and he hasn't shown any signs of love or affection at all. He isn't going to forgive and become brotherly with Itachi, even Itachi isn't the one who killed his the entire Uchiha Clan. There has to be remifications for his actions against Konoha, otherwise Kishimoto is just the typical manga writer who hardly creates anything good. Meh, I'll rant about Sasuke later.

Meh, I don't hate Dogasu (If you hate sombody over the internet and never met them, then you are a moron), I just don't like his attitude. Although I do admit that he has never gone overboard when it comes to correctin people's mistakes. Similar to when I posted a link to Scanlations of One Piece Manga, he asked if there was a rule against doing so. While I don't think that there is one specifically stated, I did so anyway because he was nice going about it. Edward Elric is a hardass, but the good kind; he actually has an outlook on life that I respect more than anyone else's on this forum. As for him getting bashed though, I think it is probably from weak-minded *******es who read what he says in the Miscellanous (sp?) Section when some people (Like Mewskitty... don't get me started on that whining idiot) whine and ***** about crap. He actually corrects them, and some people think that he is too 'mean' or some BS like that. Just ignorant *******es bash him.

Oh, and as for the fanfiction contest, I'm sure you already know the answer from my post in the thread. :p Although I find it odd that some people find it hard to write an eight page one-shot. I have written two one-shots, one was eight pages and the other was twelve. I don't see how that is hard, but I guess that it is just me.

When I join the Naruto Forums, I'm going to join a bunch of odd FC's; definitely the Akatsuki related ones. :p Meh, I like mysterious and badass villians; Giovanni (In Pokemon Special/Adventures) is evidence of that. But I doubt that Kisame would've been killed so easily if he hadn't evaded those attacks. He wouldn't have died, just been seriously ****ed up. :p

I just want some character deaths in the story; ones that actually affect the story. I don't want everyone to live (The DBZ-Haters would go mad if that happened), but I don't want people to die meaningless deaths; every character death (Ones that actualyl count) should have a point in the story. I hope that Kishi' does indeed do it in Part 2 though.

Damn, another relation from Kakashi/Obito/Rin to Sasuke/Naruto/Sakura. o.0 All I'm saying is that it would suck if Kishimoto just did an entire repeat of Kakashi Gaiden. Also, something I would like to note: When Naruto said that even he stayed Genin forever, he would still become Hokage. Think to the current situation; save for Sasuke, Naruto is the only one left who hasn't at least become a Chuunin. I like the *potential* foreshadowing that Kishimoto does. That is why I have confidence that he will make a good and realistic story (Not litterally though).

Riaf
30th April 2005, 11:36 PM
I'm Riaf. Surprising, isn't it? XD But I havn't posted yet. It's boring talking about Naurto if you aren't there to rant.

I want Sasuke to die. He's not exactly my favorite charater but that isn't why. I want to see this happen. I want to see the creator of an immensely popular series to kill off a main character who was vital to the plot( AND STAY DEAD TOO!) It's just that it's never happened before as far as I've seen and I want it to happen.

Um, Itachi did kill everyone in the clan. O.o But did he telll Sasuke to look for the "real secret" in the manga? Cuz he did in the anime and I was wondering if this happened canon.

Eh, I don't want to talk about mods. Though I agree on MewSkitty. Especially when he tried to give "advice" about not taking your life, just to get attenetion and steal EE's idea.

There's a new limit because of their *****ing and now they want maximums. Sheesh, why is everyone so freaking lazy to write at least eight pages in two months? O.o

Suit yourself, you crazy Kisame fan-boy. Though it's possible he'd die. And yes, Giovanni kicks ***! Much better than the half-assed version in the anime.

Yeah. Sasuke, Kakashi, Itachi and Kabuto should die. Just because. XD

It'll kick *** if Naruto does that. I always want to beat a black belt nowadays, despite only being a blue one. But if I can do it, and Naurto does it as well, I might die of happiness.

Totodilemew
1st May 2005, 12:42 AM
Um, Itachi did kill everyone in the clan. O.o But did he telll Sasuke to look for the "real secret" in the manga? Cuz he did in the anime and I was wondering if this happened canon.
Yes, he did tell Sasuke in the manga. It's the only way it could have been revealed. In order to gain the Mangekyou Sharingan, you must kill your best friend.

This is pure speculation, but you know how Kakashi's other legend involves the Raikiri/Chidori? I bet in another Gaiden flashback, Kakashi will cut through a lightning bolt to kill the murderer of Rin. That'd be pretty cool.

Alchemist
1st May 2005, 12:52 AM
Yes, he did tell Sasuke in the manga. It's the only way it could have been revealed. In order to gain the Mangekyou Sharingan, you must kill your best friend.

This is pure speculation, but you know how Kakashi's other legend involves the Raikiri/Chidori? I bet in another Gaiden flashback, Kakashi will cut through a lightning bolt to kill the murderer of Rin. That'd be pretty cool.
That would be awesome. And for the Naruto forums note:I'm joining now.

Riaf
4th May 2005, 12:17 AM
What legedn are you talking about, Totodilemew?

The next chapters out.

Well Naruto can use Rasegan without a Kage Bushin as you assumed, HK. And Gai has nunchucks! Didn't see that coming, should I should have. It seems that 6 Gates is his limits, which makes me wonder on Lee's status with that move. He also has fire seals. And something happened to Kisame. Yay! XP

HK
6th May 2005, 10:58 PM
Meh, this is going to be a short post. Have to go out soon.

I was slightly disappointed by this chapter. First because the Genjutsu part with Itachi and Naruto was way too confusing, and because I'm a slight Kisame-fanboy I felt that Kisame lost way too easily. Also, what is up with Gai opening the sixth gate? He didn't open up the other gates; it is like he went straight to it or somethin'.

Also, the Hinata and Uchiha fanboy/fangirls are annoying the holy ****ing shittin' hell out of me! Excuse me for the capital letters:

WHY THE **** CAN'T THEY ACCEPT THAT HINATA IS A SECONDARY CHARACTER AND THAT SHE ISN'T 'HOT' AND SHE IS ****ING OVERRATED????????!!!!!!!!!!!

WHY THE **** CAN'T THESE *******ES ACCEPT THAT THE UCHIHA CLAN SUCKS AND THAT SASUKE MIGHT NOT BE THE ONLY ****ING ONE THAT COULD POSSIBLY KILL THE 'OH-SO-GODLY' ITACHI?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There, I'm done. :D

Riaf
6th May 2005, 11:47 PM
Well, I did see that that, for no reason at all, Kishi drew a pic of Hinata in a seductive dress. I'l get back with the actual pic.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/Gadsf/roughdraft-7-1.jpg

Narutomew2
7th May 2005, 1:49 AM
yes, naruot rocks, i read the manga, have the first 100 eps of the anime, and even a head band. i love the stuff.

Narutomew2
7th May 2005, 1:50 AM
yes, naruto rocks, i read the manga, have the first 100 eps of the anime, and even a head band. i love the stuff.

Riaf
7th May 2005, 2:02 AM
Holy crap, you got a headband? O.O I hate you...

HK
7th May 2005, 2:05 AM
^ Riaf, I hardly consider Hinata to be at all cute, attractive, hot or any other form of the form good-looking. The dress is fine, the face though... *shudders* o.0 Scary man.

Meh, the 'tards of the characters annoy the holy **** out of me. I mean, I can be a bit biased towards some characters, but I don't claim them to be God or something ******** like that.

Sasuke.
7th May 2005, 12:47 PM
Hiya

Ive been getting the mangas for ages but have just started going through the anime slowly ^_^ What happens in episode 5 after Sasuke threw his shurikens at Kakashi!? I need to know and can't find where to get this episode, is there a guide somewhere

Thankies
edit: oh and sorry for being so far behind, lol ;)

Riaf
8th May 2005, 6:32 AM
hitmon, you could get some manga in the bookstores for that. But to be blunt, Sasuke tries to take Kakashi's bells (and performs it quite well) but misses it at the last minute. Sasuke then remembers his brother, Itachi. It's sorta important.

I think she's cute. Not nessecarily hot, but after seeing her so nervous attacked my weak spot and I felt pity for her. Neji helped when he was an asshoe and, like Naruto did, I was cheering her on. Her face doesn't bother me, though her hair's abit odd and her biting her fingers is pitiful and slightly distgusting at the same time, I don't see anything wrong with her.

And if I claimed them to be God, well...let's say they're better of now. XD

HK
8th May 2005, 11:18 PM
Riaf, I consider her to be below-average for a manga/anime girl. While she isn't the ugliest thing imaginable, she is hardly cute. I think (IMO anyway) one of the more 'hideous' ones of her was when they shown her serving tea (I remember laughing like crazy due to the fact that the Hinatards were so insistent that she was going to become a stronger character and also a main one) and it was her first appearance in Chapter 238 when she shown up.

People sympathize with her because:

She is hit mercilessly by Neji who is automatically dubbed the *******. Oh God-Forbid that a ninja get hit and come near-to-death, especially cute, sympathetic, hard-working, true-loving Hinata! -.- That is what really makes me ****** about her fans. That goes the same for the NaruHina fans. They talk about how Naruto should realize that Hinata has feelings for him and that he should give up on Sakura. When someone then says that this is only because people only think about Hinata's feelings, not Naruto's, the NaruHina supporters usually reply something like: 'But Naruto wants to be aknowledged by the people important to him and Hinata does so!'

There are many things wrong about that. True, Naruto wants to be aknowledged, but he wants to actually earn aknowledgement. That is pretty much why I'm a NaruSaku supporter: This relationship isn't the typical main boy and main girl hooking up, or girl who ignores boy suddenly realizes that lame boy isn't so bad. Naruto doesn't just simply have a crush on Sakura and it won't go away like many NaruHina and SasuSaku supporters say; he himself realizes why he care about her in Chapter 3 when she tells him when he is in the Henge of Sasuke that she wants aknowledgement. (Although that is for other reasons at the time) He always protects and that is represented truly well in the Gaara fight, and he also wants Sakura to be happy; that is shown when he goes against his own emotions and promises to bring Sasuke back to her, his own 'Promise of a Lifetime'. I doubt that you make that kind of promise to someone that you just have a crush on.

Sakura also isn't just the girl that just realizes that Naruto isn't a lame kid. He has done a lot for her and recently she has realized that, and she is also inspired by him. That is mentioned a good few times, also probably best-represented in her thoughts after Naruto beats Neji. She remarks that when she watches Naruto fight, it gives her the feeling to try harder to become stronger; she states that it is an incredible feeling. It is because of Naruto, not Sasuke, that she gains the abilities that we see her use in Part 2. When Sasuke was in Konoha, she never trained on her own and simply devoted her time to see if she might be able to impress him. With Naruto telling her that he wouldn't break his promise to her, she wanted to protect Naruto and come with him on the next mission, giving her the motivation and will to train under Tsunade.

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GOD DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

This post was changed from an anti-Hinata one to a NaruSaku support post! This is all because of you Riaf! You got me into romance into Naruto in the first place! I HATE YOU! I SHOULD KILL YOU! JUST USE GAARA'S POWERS AND SLOWLY SUFFOCATE YOU UNTIL YOU DIE! AND THEN AFTER YOU DIE I'LL KILL YOU AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!!!!!

I think that you get the message. :p

Riaf
9th May 2005, 3:59 AM
I wasn't to keen on how Neji was acting around, though it wasn't like how the people you were talking about. I felt nearly exactly like how Naruto did when that happened. I was ****** by him saying that when you were born, you're crap, and you always will be. That logic was so flawed so I had to just yell out "Naruto, make him shut the hell up!"

And Hinata doesn't seem so important to Naruto anymore. They haven't spoken since like chapter 99 and I doubt that Kishi could put them in any relationship anymore.

Yeah for some reason, I don't really think that Sakura is useless. She has always been the key item of emotions for Sasuke and Naruto. She progressed the storyline in such a way, she truly is a main character.

Sakura respects him (When Naruto showed up Sasuke for being a retard) and she truly acknowlegds him. She realizes that Naruto may be her best friend and that anything would be done for her.

While Naruto sees Sakura as a precious fortune that is his and she must be protected. When Orochimaru attacked, he was saving Sakura( he didn't cara about Sasuke) from dieing. When Sasuke left, he tried his best to make it seem that there will be a heppy ending for her. He'd do anything.

Don't you love this shipping talk?

*uses a Kage Bushin to escape death grab and sends shuriken at HK's head*

Megchan
10th May 2005, 10:46 PM
After reading this thread last thursday, I decided to not wait for Viz's translation. So I downloaded volumes 6-16, but then checked the link HellKorn gave, and just finished reading the rest there. I was able to finish the last chapter today, and now I can rightfully say I'm addicted to Naruto. =^^=;;

Riaf
11th May 2005, 1:59 AM
It is addicting. I can't get my mind of it. You might like the episodes if you like the manga.

HK
11th May 2005, 2:58 AM
Heh, glad to be of help Sakura Neko. I know that it is a cheap way around downloading the manga, but hey, I don't have the time or patience to really do that. Although rarely you do come across a missing page (I believe in one of the chapters in which Jiraiya was teaching Naruto on how to control the Rasengen), but it is still good all the same. Plus, Viz is never going to catch up to Naruto at releasing... like four GN's a year. Plus, their transaltions suck. :D

Dude, I had a feeling that Neji was really more or less like a copy of Sasuke (at first), but I had a feeling that he would be different. If anything, Neji represents what Sasuke would've been if he hadn't gone to Orochimura for cheap-and-easy power to kill Itachi. Plus, Neji just seems like that kickass character. Oh, and as far as his beliefs on how fate is decided at birth, I completely agree. *Sees the shuriken that is being thrown at him. Use Kawaimari (sp?) no Jutsu to move* Let me explain:

IMO, everything is truly decided before anything else happens. Fate and destiny is final, and it can't be changed. What can be changed is on how you get there or the path that you take to get you there. For instance, let me say that Naruto becomes Hokage. It isn't because he changed his destiny or his fate, it is because he was destined to become Hokage. That is inevitable. When people talk about chaning fate, that is stupid because you can't change the outcome. It is either going to happen or it isn't. That is pretty much the only thing that I find wrong in that whole logic. If you still disagree with my about that, I'll devote an entire post to it next time.

Hinata was never important to Naruto in the first place. o.0 He has never given her a second thought; the last time he thought about her was just right after his fight with Neji and wondering if she had seen him dhow everyone that an underdog can win. Honestly, some idiots say that NaruSaku is dead. NaruHina is dead from the past... 150 or so chapters. If anything, NaruHina was never alive because it was so damn one-sided.

Dude, Sakura has a lot of potential before Part 2. She was just never taught by anybody (Kakashi devotes his time to Sasuke and Naruto had Jiraiya), and the only thing that she concerned herself in her spare time was to try to think about things that would impress her little 'Sasuke-kun'. Honestly, it pisses me off when they say that for Sasuke, Sakura has become strong. -.- If anything, Sasuke had made her weak. Sakura has even said that watching Naruto makes her want to become stronger, and she feels that she has to protect him when she helps him with their second try at the 'Save-The-Ungrateful-Uchiha-*******' mission. It isn't because of Sasuke that Sakura has become strong, Naruto has always been there for her and he is her will to become stronger for the people she cares about.

Probably the *major* points where Sakura truly makes revelations about Naruto is the two fights he had in the Chuunin Exams with Kiba and Neji, when she learned that it was Sasuke, but Naruto who had saved her from Gaara, and when he had made the promise of a lifetime that he would bring Sasuke back to her. Honestly, any 'moments' that the NaruHina and SasuSaku come up with can't compare to those.

So, just let me give you a basic rundown of a few final couples:

Naruto & Sakura
Hinata & Kiba (Although Neji would be better; I'll explain in my next post)
Lee & Tenten
Shikamura & Temari
Ino & Chouji

And Sasuke ends up with no one. He either is killed in a climatic battle with Naruto, or else he escapes and lives out the rest of his life as a missing-nin always traveling. I'm sorry, but for Sasuke to have have any emotion that is even somewhat related love is against his character. Oh, and people bring up that he wants to revive his clan. Uhh... yeah, he is truly concerned about it since he mentioned once, and that was in Chapter 4. I mean a twelve year old wouldn't be as focused with something like that I guess, but everything has been about Itachi. Sasuke is willing to eventually give up his body to Orochimura so that he may have have the power to kill Itachi.

Oh well... and I'm giving up on hating you for getting me into romance for Naruto. Too many exclamation points. :p

Riaf
11th May 2005, 4:55 AM
Yeah, that's why I like him better sasuke. Though he was being rough with Hinata, even if his life sucked bacause of her. *spots the real HK and Zankuhas him*

That's for spelling it out for me...that logic does make sense, though. It's just unerving to see that someone's talking about that you can't change your future, even if you know it will happen or not.

Naruto has definatley appreciated Hinata when they last talked. She became a real friend. That's why I say that the ship's cute. Though I dount it'd happen, I wouldn't mind it, as long as Sasuke doesn't get Sakura.(Don't you just love the word ship?)

Wow, you're getting REALLY shippy. Well, I think that you're right, though Sakura never really seems to trian because of Naurto only. Remember when she asked Tsunade to train her? I think she was jealous from all the way from chapter 54 of them and wanted a final resouloution. A special skill.

I just noticed how jealous TenTen was when she heard that Lee said he would be a stronger man, just for Sakura. She was frowning, man. And how does Neji and Hinata work? It's like Naurot and her...kinda.

Yeah, I think he'll just become a fugitive with Itachi who wonders aboutabd kills assains because of Naruto/Sakura. Or die. Whatever works with me.

Skiks
13th May 2005, 5:41 PM
Look at this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/revl89/XD/Parody5Ffrom5FNaruto5Fchp5F2575Fby5Fmandachan.jpg) and gain some comic relief. It jokes about the latest manga chapter.

Riaf
13th May 2005, 11:38 PM
XD.


That's funny. Itachi's all "Shut the hell up." LOLZ!

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Did you make yourself?

Megchan
15th May 2005, 9:14 PM
Meh, I know that this discussion has gotten pretty far, but I have to get into now, espicially after the forums were down like they were. @.@



More than likely. Although which team, I don't really know. Everyone else had all of their team together, and Lee had recovered from the surgery quite well, so I am guessing that she probably teamed up with somebody.

Personally, I'm more interested to see how they are going to do with Naruto's ranking as a Genin still. He is way too damn powerful to take it, so it might be possible that if this recent mission with gathering information about Gaara's abduction goes well, he could be promoted to Chuunin.

As a side note, I hate it when people ***** about how Kishimoto is dealing with Part 2 of Naruto so far. Honestly, some things of what they say are completely ridiculous...

I think Sakura was most likely with Ino and Choji, since Shikamaru already became a Chuunin. *shrugs* Just my thought of it.

Skiks
16th May 2005, 2:38 AM
XD.


That's funny. Itachi's all "Shut the hell up." LOLZ!

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Did you make yourself?

XD no I get emailed thoes comics every week I have more though I have to search through my files.

Riaf
16th May 2005, 3:14 AM
I'd like to see some more. :D

Rockin83
16th May 2005, 2:26 PM
umbreon is cool

Riaf
16th May 2005, 11:09 PM
Um, WTF? Not be rude or anything...

Skiks
17th May 2005, 1:20 AM
I'd like to see some more. :D
Mwhahaha!!! Here you go... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/revl89/XD/Ninja5FSkillz5Fby5FRozefire.jpg)Yes he is cheap.

Riaf
17th May 2005, 2:58 AM
Haha, that's cool. It makes you wonder though, how electronically avacned is the Naurto world? Do he have TV and computers?

HK
21st May 2005, 9:32 PM
Bah, I'm late... again. >> Oh well.

Heh, those are pretty good. I like the one making fun of Itachi 'going blind'. That was priceless. Better watch out for Itachi's dropkick. XD

Oh, and Riaf, I think I was like... weird when I said all that shippy stuff. Meh, I don't really acer that much anymore. Must be the fact that I haven't been on this thread in a long time. :p

These last two chapters concerning the fights were interesting. I guess I'll start with Chapter 259 then.

To be honest, this chapter had no plot movement what-so-ever. It was just concerning Itachi's jutsu on Naruto. However, save for the plot advancement, everything else was pretty good. I really like the symbolization of the ravens; apparently Kishi' is a fan of Edgar Allen Poe. Although the main fighting itself was just with kunai though, and that was a bit of a let-down.

What I really did like was when Naruto was under the full effects of Itachi's genjutsu. It really shows that Naruto does indeed have fears; if I can take a guess, it would be to fail the people he cares most about. He failed to show Sasuke what he was leaving behind at Konoha. He failed to fulfill his promise to Sakura that he would bring Sasuke back. He failed to be strong for his teamates and let-down Kakashi (at least I think... I really don't remember off-hand). He might also fail in retrieving Gaara, someone who Naruto can truly sympathize with. IMO, I think that Kishimoto made a smart move when he shown us all of this.

Now for Chapter 260.

Whoa... that was a twist. Who honestly thought that those weren't Kisame and Itachi? That restores my faith in the fact of how strong the Akatsuki is. I am guessing with the way the Kisame fight went, people were thinking that he was overrated (and that can't happen to the Sexy-Shark-Youma!). With how the Itachi fight was going, people could've thought that it was too soon to have the fight. I'm glad tha Kishi' pulled that twist on us with that... jutsu. I can't remember what it was called exactly. Oh well.

Also, Naruto with his 'Double Rasengen' or Oodama (sp?) Rasengen was sweet. I'm glad that he can pull of a Rasengen reguarly now without the help of a clone, because now he can use his clones to go crazy with double, triple, etc. the power.

Hmm... the preview at the bottom of the page for the next chapter was a bit ominous though. Will Gaara actually die though? That is what I'm wondering. I mean, personally I am a fan of him, and there were others points in the series where Kishi' could've killed off somebody more suitable for the time, but I guess that it would be better for development. For Naruto having failed on rescuing two of his closet people in two straight missions has to suck. Although part of me wants Gaara to live, simply because I feel that he has a lot more potential, what with him just becoming Kazekage and all.

BTW, Riaf, there are electronical devices in Naruto's world. They do indeed have televisions, refridgerators (sp?), etc. They don't have anything like guns or tanks though, which is a good thing.

Oh yeah, HK is back *****es. :p

Riaf
22nd May 2005, 7:25 AM
Oh great, it's you. XD

You'll care. I'll make you care...Sakura has feelings for Sasuke!*waits paitently to see if that worked*

I think he was scared with the Kakashi bit because in chapter 7-8, teamwork was what made Naurto a ninja. But when he didn't get Sasuke back, he felt as if he did not fufill the teamwok and was not considered a ninja. I think Naruto also fears not acheiving his goal to be the best ninja.

It's Shouten no Justu. I'm still a bit shocked from that stunt so I don't know wheter it was a good change or not. I just feel that it was kinda confusing.

Whould a Shadow clone actually do that? I'm not sure if dividing your chakra into multiple peices with make a move stronger.

If Kisimoto kills him off, I will cry. If Sasuek does not end up dieing at the end, I will personally hunt him down. Nuff said.

I'm glad modern weapons aren't around because it'd just kill the feeling that Naurto brings, with the sci-fi magic and ancient weapons.




Oh yeah, HK is back *****es. :p

But for how long?

HK
23rd May 2005, 1:09 AM
Uhh... are we still going to use spoilers Riaf? 'Cause if we aren't, then I'm going to feel real stupid right now...

WHAT?! NU-HUH!!! Sakrua don't luv sausugay!!!!!!111111111oneoneoneoneone

If you were getting for that reaction, then you got it. :p Seriously though, I don't care as much. Perhaps it is a combination of both not being on this thread for a long time and the fact that I have been working on my own original story. And yes, this is a story that I plan to publish. I'll talk about that and my Pokemon Fanfic at the end of this post.

I mean, Kakashi is important to Naruto (if Iruka is like the father that Naruto never had, then Kakashi is like... his uncle, or something), but I just didn't really think about what would unnerve Naruto about it. I expected it once I saw Sasuke and Sakura pop up in Naruto's mind (or body... BTW, that was a cool jutsu), but I was just wondering about him.

Personally I think that it was for the better than it wasn't actually Itachi and Kisame. Basically, it will actually make the Akatsuki stronger than we thought they were these past... like six or so chapters. They wouldn't be the most-hyped-villians in the series without a purpose, that much I know. Besides, I'm a Kisame-fanboy. Come on Riaf, you can't deny the dead-smexy-sharkman!

Well Naruto's Oodama Rasengan certainly was more powerful than his normal one. I'm guessing that while his strength might be divided, as well as jutsus, something like the Rasengan isn't. Actually... is the Rasengan even a jutsu? There are no hand-seals involved, there isn't a blood-limit ability, and it isn't a special-case jutsu. What exactly is it?

Personally I'm a big fan of Gaara's. If Kishimoto does end up killing him off, it better be one of the most tear-jerking moments in manga/anime history; yes, even topping his moment with Zabuza and Haku at the bridge in the first arc of Naruto. Plus, it would be fitting considering that while it goes against him, Gaara has the best potrayal of emotions in the entire series.

I think the moment that got me to truly feel sorry for Gaara was when he was talking to his uncle (who looked like his aunt) when he was a child. Yeah, that one flashback during his fight with Naruto. Can't rememebr the exact chapter though. He talked about feeling pain. Tomo (I think that was his uncle's name) asks him what the pain was. Gaara says he doesn't feel pain whenever he gets cut, but whenever he sees kids playing in the village, he feels pain here *points to his chest*. Yeah, that was a sad moment.

If weapons of today would be involve, then it wouldn't be a ninja manga. It just wouldn't be fitting. Integrating the technological elements of today is good, while keeping out the weapons is even better.

As a side note that doesn't involve my stories or Naruto: Riaf, you have to check out the manga Hellsing. No, not just because I created a thread about it here. I'm serious dude, in my mind, if it comes out faster, it could become as big as ones like Naruto and One Piece. While it is a bit more mature manga than those (there is like: blood=water in it >: ), which is kickass), I like it as much as Naruto, Rurouni Kenshin, Trigun/Trigun Maximum, Fullmetal Alchemist Bleach, etc. It kicks some serious ***.

As you know, Riaf (and anyone else who reads my fanfic), I am revising 'Pokemon: Generation Kanto'. I'm already done with the first chapter, and I have added a preface to it as well. I plan on working and finishing it up by... well, at least by the end of June. o.0 Yeah, I plan on working it over. It is getting a major overhaul, and despite the long wait, when it does come out, I gurantee you Riaf that it will be one of the best fanfics you will ever have read in your life. Again, that is not just a maybe, that is a gurantee.

Well, I'm still here and I posted two days in a row in this thread, so I guess I'm here for a while. Have to put up with it Riaf. :p

Riaf
23rd May 2005, 5:28 AM
Oh, crap...*edits past post*

Oh, well, I aint' shitting myself so you care about shipping. But if that DID happen...what whould be your reaction?

I think it is important because ever since Haku, the first lesson Kakashi tought had drilling into his mind. It's represented so much in the Gaara fight, dude.

Yeah, too bad Itachi's jealous with his attention for girls and they all die. XD XD XD But seriously, I don't get any impression that Atasuki is stronger form that justu. It wasn't a big impact. I think that Itachi's justu is what makes me thnik he's strong.

I thinks it's a justu that no hand-seals can enquire with it. And since Naruto can't focus chakra with seals when doing the Rasengan, it's difficult. Or it's simply using chakra converting the movement of air.

Yeah, Gaara's past was tear-jerking. I cried I saw that part. Gaara's life sucked so much, espically the part after he talked with his uncle ( his name is Yashamaru) and gave the kid he hurt some medicene. The brat called Gaara a monster. I cried there.

IN the movie, the villains use a machince similar to a torpedo lancher but uses kunais. Y'think that kunais and shuirkens are deadlier than guns?

Notice how alot of poeple have the "maru" ending to their name? Akamaru is "Redmaru", Shikamaru is "Deermaru", Orochimaru is "Snakemaru", etc., etc.

I might. I think I'll balance my money to see if I can get a hold of it. You seem to like it alot.

Well...I'm quite curious to see how it'll turn out. Though, to be honest, I didn't read your fic before because of the boring intro. And then it got confusing as we went to Ash's house. Is Pokeshiping still gonna be in it?

HK
23rd May 2005, 8:54 PM
If there is one thing that I am thankful for, it is my observation skills. Something that you, Riaf, apparently don't have. :p

Ya mean if SasuSaku did happen in the end? Hmmm... well, at a time (like, last weej XP) I think I would've said I would ******. Personally, I think that I might still be ******. I have already explained to you quite a few times why I dislike the pairing; that is the only pairing that I DO NOT want to happen. There are others that I don't prefer or would rather not hope to happen, but if they do, meh on Kishimoto. Like I said man, I'm not really involved in pairings as much as I did like... four posts ago. o.0

Ah, that makes sense then. The whole, 'protect the most precious person, and you will become truly strong', speech? Although that would be a combination frmo both Haku and Kakashi... speaking of Haku, I really wish that him and Zabuza could be brought up again (and no, I don't want either of them to be the Akatsuki Leader -.-). The Wave Country Arc (it was in the Wave Country wasn't it?) was one of my favorite arcs in the series, and it wasn't because it was the first one. It didn't really have a character that I disliked at all, and all of Team 7 was training as one unit. That is something that I don't remember happening at all in any other part in the manga.

I dunno. Mixed reactions about the Akatsuki for you and me I guess. Personally I felt that they were getting pwned way too easily; I had originally thought that when it was time for the Akatsuki showdown, that it would be like, DBZ length fights with the difference being the fights would be interesting. :p

Hmmm... then what would a jutsu with no hand-seals be called? Meh, I'll look into that later. I still say that the Rasengan can be more powerful when combined, even if the user's chakra is divided.

Yashamaru, gotcha ya. For some odd reason when Gaara had killed Yashamaru it didn't have much as an impact as when he was telling him about the pain that he felt in his chest; a pain that he didn't understand since he didn't understand pain at all. If I was damn-near immune to crying, I think that I would've been bawling like a baby when I read that part.

Kunais and shuriken more powerful than modern guns? Oh hell no. Guns pWNz them. And I'm not being sarcastic or nOOb-ish either. I'm just glad that Kishi' isn't going to have guns in the manga; albeit it would be an interesting twist if such technology was suddenly invented. It kinda reminds me of a fanfic that I read that involved Team 7 and Kakashi trying to take Konoha's first and last car in the village. It was pretty funny. I'll give ya the link in another post.

Huh... so everbody is a circle or something? Isn't that what the kanji for 'maru' means? Meh, I need to brush up on it again; I've been lazy. @.@

Dude, I'm telling you that Hellsing kicks *** unlike any other manga that I ever read, period. There is no Japanese influence at all, aside from the art itself. Which, btw, is extremely amazing. Although it does get a bit confusing at some points (not with any of the fights though, which is a major plus) with dialogue, and it occasionly has its down points (there is this one like comedy chapter that involves Alucard's dreams that was kinda stupid), but overall it is one of the best mangas out there. I plan on getting Volume 7 when it comes out in September (it started out with slow releases in Japan, and I mean REALLY SLOW), and other Dark Horse Manga Publications before that (they translate ones such as Hellsing, Trigun, Beserk; the last one I plan on getting soon). While it is a bit more complex than the typical manga where you can just pick up and read, it is one of the best ones at there. I do suggest that you go out and get it man; it is awesome.

Oh, and concerning my story. Yeah, although most of my readers tell me differently, the first few chapters are ****ing pieces of ****. But I'm telling you though, when I come out with it, it may not be the most original Pokemon Fanfiction out there, but it will be amazing. And it isn't just going to be most descriptive, better grammar, longer chapters, etc.; this thing is getting a major overhaul. I'm still sticking to the plot that I had running for the past few chapters (which is the main one obviously), but I'm going to include more of that earlier on. Originally when I wrote 'Pokemon: Generation Kanto', I had very little idea of the main plot and any sub-plots. Now I have the full picture, and man, it looks like a Picaso (which, IMO, is a good thing, even if you don't like his abstract painting style XP).

Are you an Advanceshipper by any chance? Meh, I included Pokeshipping originally because it was conveniant (sp?). Yeah, there will be a bit in the Rewrite, but it won't be as awful as it was in the original. I'm serious dude, back then, I couldn't write anything romantic to save my life. I actually can now, I'm just not really all that interested in shippings/pairings, save for Naruto... because of a certain idiot on this thread! Ain't that right Riaf?! >>

Edit- Heh, alright; 200th post!

Riaf
25th May 2005, 5:04 AM
Ah, shut the hell up. <_< You spelled week "weej" so be quiet.

*SPOILERS*



I still can't believe you don't care about shippings any more. It's so strange. But NaruSaku should happen. That what I care about.

In the anime, they had a cameo to represent Kinamaro's past. Kinamaro was kinda exactly like Haku, though his "precious one" was an *******. I think these guys should play a big role in Part 2.

Yeah, I thought something like Naruto evening with Itachi, then Kakashi killing him with Manegekou Sharingan while Gai fights well, but Neji takes Kisame. All I want at the moment is for TenTen to do something useful.

When are you joining Naruto Forums? And have you seen those flash movies?

Personally, that’s a sad part, but I doubt I’d cry over it. It shows how being invincible doesn’t matter because you have feelings. People are scared of you they try to hurt you to be superior. You become fragile and weak to them. That’s why I was so shocked when Gaara was talking to that brat with the soccer ball.

Well, I like it when the stories I read take place in the past. I dunno, must be my love for history or something. But cars and guns and grenades would totally kill the mythological world of Naruto. But if it’s funny, then show it to me.

I don’t know what it could possibly be. Maybe Dogasu knows or something.

Okay, I’ll get it. Black Horse is the one who produces it, right?

How the hell do you type so much? @.@ You rant too much.

You aren’t going to use all Gym Leaders as members of TR, are you? Cuz that’s my plot, and you stealing it wouldn’t be cool.

Me, Advancedshipper? Nah, I prefer Pokeshipping. Though, I don’t care about it that much and could really care less about Satoshi’s love life. XD But your display of Pokeshippping was pretty crappy and boring, except for Flame’s “two friends” line of course. Misty should have slapped Ash or something for that, to make it at least semi-interesting. And, I know you love me, HK. XD

You only have 200, man? I got like 750 and a lot were deleted.

Brinstar
25th May 2005, 8:11 PM
Hey guys, I was thinking of opening a Naruto thread for people who've been keeping up with the latest releases so that you won't have to spoiler tag an entire post. Then we could leave this thread for people who've been reading the Viz so they won't have to sift through these huge blackened posts. I won't do it if you're not cool with it, so lemme know your thoughts beforehand.

Riaf
25th May 2005, 9:16 PM
Please, do Brinstar. I don't want HK bugging me about it anymore.

HK
25th May 2005, 9:39 PM
That is a good idea Brinstar; although why not simply create a thread for the Viz version of Naruto since we have such a long way into this thread? I mean, it probably would spoil it for a lot of people who just read the Viz Naruto if they get this thread. I was thinking of creating a seperate thread for the Viz Naruto, although I'm not too sure if it would do well.

Meh, just my thoughts.

Well, in this case, no spoiler tags for HK!

Meh, I care about Naruto pairings more than any other manga/anime out there (which really isn't saying anything since I don't find romance in manga/anime all that interesting), but just as not as much as I did when I first got into it. Although I still do have my preferences obviously, I can't stand SasuSaku and to a lesser extent NaruHina, and I do indeed like pairings like NaruSaku and ShikaTemari. Meh, t3h strangeness that is HellKorn (a.k.a. HK, Wolfman, etc.).

Yeah, I had heard about the filler cameo in the anime. I do wish that Haku and Kinimaro are actually brought up in Part 2, but not brought back to life. Yes, I hate those fools who like to claim that Yondaime, Obito, Haku, Shino's Dad (WTF?!), etc., is the leader of the Akatsuki. Why can't we just have an original character that we haven't met before?! o.0

Hopefully TenTen and... someone else, can't think of them right now (they didn't get a role at all) get some more spotlight. TenTen is just like... there. I mean, even though other characters (Chouji, Kiba, Shino, etc.) didn't either get their pasts involved or have any badass moments as much as some others, they all got some role. Personally I don't care if Kishi' doesn't introduce as many characters in Part 2 or else give us too many to account for, just as long as he covers and gives every character smoething that makes the fans care about them.

I'm joining during the summer, and no, I haven't seen the flash movies. XP

I think we are both in agreement here; Gaara is one of the better characters in Naruto. And let us also admit this; he has some of the most emotional and best moments in Naruto, period.

You like things involving history and the past? Well, that means that you like something like Rurouni Kenshin, am I right? Well, Hellsing doesn't take place in the past, but it has its fair share of weaponry (although I think that there is only one realistic weapon in the entire series, if that much) and includes good share of history in it as well. See, I'm damn near becoming obsessed with Hellsing now. :p

Hmm... I still think that it means circle, or something similar to that. Just ask somebody that isn't me, and I'm sure you'll get the correct answer. :P

I'm glad that you are getting it. Like I said man, you will either love it or hate it. At least that is my take from some of the people who have read it. Also to note: I haven't seen anyone who hates it. :D And yeah, Dark Horse Manga is the one who liscenses it. I think all of their transaltions are great (I have Hellsing, Trigun and its sequel, Trigun Mazimum. I also plan on getting Berserk soon as well), and they are one of the best ones out there. They quite easily kick Viz's *** anyday when it comes to reliable translations. They damn-near, it not all the way, stick to the original dialogue.

Well, since I'm discussing my revised edition of my story, I'll just put this in spoilers.

No, I'm not going to have them all as Team Rocket members. Remember what I said about me getting inspiration from the Pokemon Special manga? Well, I'm really going away from the manga in the rewrite, but I will include a few aspects from it. :p

Ah, fair enough. Personally I could give a rat's *** about that, but I guess I prefer Pokeshipping. The only thing is that I haven't watched the anime in... like three to four years. And yes, the 'developed' Pokeshipping that I had in my fanfic is about as developed as the relationship between Sasuke and Sakura. :p (I had to take a stab at that.) Oh yes Riaf, I love you about as much as Orochimura and Sasuke combined love women. Oh yeah, that is a lot.

And I meant 200th post on this thread. I've past my 200th post for myself for... a helluva long time.

Totodilemew
28th May 2005, 12:52 AM
Well, Gaara's dead. That completely sucks, because I liked him. But at least something interesting is going on now.

Riaf
28th May 2005, 4:09 AM
Thank god the spoilers are dead.

You like Shikamaru and Temari? I never knew that. Granted, Shikamaru is a kickass (not a lameass) character and one of my favorites.

I'd like it if the leader had some relation to Kurreani. She’s really an overshadowed character and her having family ties with him would rock. Funny how they never went in dept with Azuma being in Sarutobi’s clan though. I’d like some back-story on that.

Ten Ten needs something. All we know about her is that wants to be a great female warrior and she uses sharp objects .It really ain’t fair on Ten Ten’s part. If we see some further ambition to her goal, then I’ll be satisfied.

So much for “joining this weekend” and “seeing after a crap and such”, eh?
XD

Yeah, Gaara was totally awesome because he might’ve been Naruto’s best friend (not sasugay) due to their similarities. And, according to Totodilemew, he’s dead. Ain’t life grand? : P

Ruroni Kenshin ain’t so bad but it’s hard to keep track of, seeing as I haven’t seen it in a long time. And Helsing has to do with the Nazis, right? Because the Holocaust is my favorite subject in history. That is, of course, until Bush’s stupidity becomes history. :p

Ah, maybe I’ll ask my friend about it. He knows a fair much about Japanese.

Yeah, I’m starting to think Viz totally sucks. If they mess up FullMetal Alchemist, then I’ll have no faith in them. Though can you give me a slight intro on Helsing?

Oh, come on. You know the reason why Kabuto, Dosu, Zaku, Kin, Kinamaro, Jiroboi, Sakon, Tetsuya, Sasuke and Yoroi hang around him, right? ;)

HK
28th May 2005, 5:19 AM
Yeah, I pretty much have always liked a pairing that involves Shikamaru getting his *** beaten at any possiblity. :D Let us face it, there is no Shika pairing out there that doesn't involve him getting damn-near killed. I can relate to Shika because I pretty much like to do what is asked of me, and that is all. Plus, I also learn for a simple life; occassionly exciting but generally calm.

Hmmm... meh, I don't really know about having a connection with Kurenai. I just really guess that personally unless they get a lot of screen time or some devotion to their character, I don't really see them getting into their pasts. Although I do wonder who exactly the leader of the Akatsuki is; about the only possible thing of a character that we know of is Yondaime. Anything else is complete and ****ing ********.

The sad thing, I have a feeling that Kishi' isn't going to do anything with TenTen's character. With 261 chapters into it all, and there is nothing interesting about her. She was a damn ***** when it came to the Naruto vs. Neji fight in the Chuunin Exams, she beat up Lee to get him back to his senses during the Forest of Death, she is an expert at weapons... that is all that I can think about in my mind. Meh, not really a defined character. Hell, even Ebisu gets more of the spotlight.

Bah, screw that. I'll join when I got some free time.

Actually, we aren't not sure about Gaara's 'Death' right now. He had lost a part of him, but the scene where he lost it was somewhat symbolic and metaphoric. Personally I would like to think that he is dead (considering it actually makes sense with what Chiyo said), but meh, Kishi' might pull a Chouji and Neji on us. And yeah, I have always thought that him and Naruto could very well be closer than Sasuke. As for Sasuke though, I don't really hate him anymore. More or less his ****ing fanboys.

Rurouni Kenshin is one of the best mangas out there period, IMO. The anime version after the Kyoto Arc really ruined though; it doesn't give the series any justice. As for Hellsing (with two 'l'; :p), it does eventually lead up to the Nazis. I advise you to read the manga before watching the anime though; the anime didn't go into the Nazis because the manga wasn't finished with the Nazi Arc when the anime came around to it. As for Bush, I like to make comparisons to the Bush Administration to Nazi Germany. XD

Meh, I'm pretty damn sure that "-maru" means circle.

Viz sucks when it comes to their edits and dialogue to their 'main series'. I do have Volume One of Fullmetal Alchemist, and comparing to the first chapter, they don't do a word-for-word translation, but it is good considering what they coudl've done. I actually like the way that they start it than the original, odd enough. If you have read both, just go to the first page. The way they represent Ed's mistakes at his try to get his mother back was a lot better in the captions... at least I think so. Others might have a different opinon.

Hmm... an intro into Hellsing? Well, let me give this a shot:

"There's a secret organization somewhere in England created to defend the Queen and country from monsters of all sorts. Enter Hellsing, an agency, long in tooth, with the experience, the know-how, and... er... equipment to handle the problems that arise when vampires, ghouls, and the like clamber frlom the darkness. "What equipment?" you may say. How about another vampire, souped up by generations of study and refinement, armed with a big pistol loaded with special silver bullets? That oughta do the trick. But what really knocks 'em dead is the sharp wit, awsome artwork, and crazy, bloody actoin that make up the manga. Hellsing, the long-awaited gothic graphic that spawned the popular anime is finally here in America, thanks to Dark Horse Comics and the folks at Digital Manga, and you're gonna love it. THe night is dark, but at least those creep anti-heroes from Hellsing can make light of it.

"Full of clever, modern dialogue, bloody action, and dark comedy, Hellsing has quickly crept into the otaku hearts across America. Check out the manga that created the darkly popular animated series."

That is from the back of the first volume in America. Meh, might sound a bit corny/odd at the summary, but trust me man, it is ****ing awesome. It actually doesn't directly get involved with the Nazis at first; it takes up until around Volume Three to really get into that plot. I would give you a better idea of it in my own words as a whole series (without any spoilers of course :p), but I'm too damn tired tonight. I do advise you to get some of the Dark Horse releases though; they are one of the best, arguably the besat, Manga Publishers here in the U.S. Titles such as Hellsing, Trigun, Trigun Maximum (a helluva lot better series than the original; the prequel in the manga just didn't have that feel... meh, I'll create a thread about Trigun and its sequel at a later time and talk about it then), Berserk (a manga that I aim to get soon; I have heard that it has some of the best characters and potrayal and emotion's that you will ever find in manga. It is very bloody, violent, sexual, etc.; my kind of manga XD), etc.

Basically, like That Scary Clefair had stated in the Hellsing thread, whenever a manga is announced to be publish by Dark Horse, expect excellent translations. If I'm not mistaken, they pretty much stay true to the original. They kick Viz's *** anyday man.

Back onto Naruto... hmm, why would Orochimura have all of the little kids around him? >> Meh, that Michael Jackson joke is getting old. It was so funny when it was first compared to him, but now it is... kinda lame. >>

Edit- Woohoo! I was right, *****es! In regards to Sakura Neko's post that is. ^^;;

Megchan
28th May 2005, 5:39 AM
Meh, I'm pretty damn sure that "-maru" means circle.

Your right maru does mean circle. But it's also a common ending to male names. =^^= Hope that helps.

Brinstar
28th May 2005, 11:14 PM
Y'know I'm a huge Naruto fan, yet I haven't really posted here so....

I'm usually not up for pairings in fiction...especially outrageous ones, and I can't stand pairings in Pokemon, but there's something about Naruto...anyway, I like Naruto and Hinata, mostly cause Hinata's my fave character, and Shikamaru and Temari, since it would be amusing to see Temari knock Shika around ^^

My thoughts on chap262 is that either Sakura will heal Gaara with some miracle medical jutsu or something. Although I wouldn't mind Gaara dying, I think it's a bit too soon, you know? We barely saw him do anything after the timp skip -- we saw him as Kazekage for like a chapter before he was abducted by Deidara.

HK
30th May 2005, 9:03 PM
Heh, to be honest, I was wondering when you were going to post here Brinstar. For a long time you had Itachi in your avatar. Now oyu have Naruto focusing his chakra. Yeah, you should've been posting here a long time. :p

Same here with pairings in anime/manga. Although I guess Riaf got me into it more than anything thing... damn *******. Personally I can't stand any romance-centered manga, but I can take the ones that don't focus on it. But the only manga that I'm actually interested in with pairings is Naruto.

And I agree with Gaara dying too early. We didn't really see his true abilities at all; I hardly consider his fight with Deidara exactly the best testing of his strengths. Although it was interesting how it was symbolic that Gaara had lost a part of himself; it goes along with Chiyo's explanation of what happens to the containers of the Bijuu after they are extracted. Meh, we'll see soon enough this upcoming week.

Riaf
31st May 2005, 1:09 AM
Yeah, I'm similar to Shikamaru as well; I don't get motivated. Sometimes I do, but for the most part, I'm a lazy, down-t-earth guy. I'm also pretty smart when it comes to science, seeing as it's the only thing on my report card that gave excellent remarks. It's weird; I have Naruto's energy, Shikamaru's laziness and Lee's...weirdness. ^_~

I'm not really peppy about Yodaime being the leader of Atasuki. Yodaime himself is kinda annoying (or the fan girls) and HE FREAKING DIED. If Zabuza dies and never gets mentioned again, then Yodiame shouldn't get it either.

I don’t thin that Ten Ten get anything as well, sadly. But she seems to be fighting soon. So she might get a role like Chouji did, and not do anything useless. And we might care about her. Yay.

Oh yeah, it must be so treacherous to not call this thread “free time”.


Yeah, Gaara shouldn’t be dead. Like Brinstar mentioned, Gaara barely did anything after the time skip. I think we should have had more time to familiarize ourselves with the characters before Atasuki got pulled in again because Kishi seems to be rushing it. Going too fast. And hopefully Sasuke gets his pre chapter 130 attitude again.

Hellsing really does seem cool. I’ll get it “after a shower and crap” or maybe “this weekend”. XD And what’s wrong with comparing Bush and Hilter?

To be honest, I kinda skipped through that because it was hard to read. ^_~ But after comparing those two, I have to say that I like Viz’s better. The subs are too subtle and Ed called Al an “it”. And I like those capitals. I wonder how it’d look like in Chiller or Creepy format.

Man, that intro sucks. Like a corny announcer. But I’ll get it. Amd I might read the others in Borders. XD

That actually wasn’t in my mind at all when I said that. I thought they all thought he was a pimp. XD

Only I’m a bastard like that, right HK?

And Brinstar, if you want, you can claim Hinata in the Bishie thread I lost interest in her.

HK
31st May 2005, 2:21 AM
The two thing that teachers always get on my *** about are:

1) Causing trouble.

2) Doing assignments.

See, I ain't as bad as I used to be (and yes, I'm using "ain't" in the right context there) when turning stuff in, just that I'm usually late. ^^; But if anything, I'm like Shikamaru and Neji. Shikamaru's personality and Neji's philosiphy (the old Neji's philosiphy anyway XP).

Same here man. I wonder why it is just so hard for people to accept the fact that it could possibly be somebody we haven't met yet? I mean, honestly, go for some original thought here people.

I'm hoping that they might go into the fact that she does wish to become a famous female shonobi like her idol Tsunade (the scary thing is that I remember that o.0), or at least give her some type of background. Even if it is for a few panels, I would praise Kishimoto for it. Sadly, I doubt that it will happen. >>

Hey, don't accuse me of being lazy, even if I am! I just have to learn on how to deal with two forums, writing fanfiction and my own original novel, and going out and hanging with my friends. Time management, ya gotta learn that, man.

Part 2 seems to slow down at some parts, then go into like... light speed mode every chapter or something. Before we found out that they weren't really fighting the real Akatsuki, I was seriously worried because Kishi' had made those fights way too fast. I'm hoping that things can slow down a bit. And truth be told, Kishi' can go anywhere right now with the ritual finally complete. I liked the bit with Chiyo explaining what happens to Bijuus and their containers if they are seperated, such as in Gaara's case. Btw, can anyone give me the full spelling of what the containers are called? I can never remember that. XP

Bah, you suck, man. Hellsing doesn't though; it kicks some serious ***. And nothing is wrong with comparing Bush and Hitler, or rather the Bush Administration and the Nazis. Hell, you know how I feel about all that if you have ever looked at my posts in the Debate Forum. I haven't posted there in a while, mainly because Latios is causing this biased stir concerning the "Christianity vs. Atheism". -.-

What, my post was too hard to read or Fullmetal Alchemist was too hard to read? o.0 Regardless, I guess I have to hand it to Viz this time. Kinda like how people like the Yu Yu Hakusho Dub better than the original (although part of it might be because they added more cussing into the dub), I actually like Viz's version slightly better. The opening where Ed fails at bringing their mother back was more direct yet at the same time more thoughtful than the original.

And yes, I told you it would be corny. As for my own personal thoughts on Hellsing though, I've told you numerous times already. If you actually want me to do a full on thought... thingy, on it, I will do so.

I definitely encourage you to check out Trigun and Trigun Maximum as well. Trigun manga to met in some ways isn't as good as the anime, although that bias might be because the fights are a lot easier to follow in the anime. That is my only problem with the manga, as the fights are somewhat hard to follow, and you really have to look hard occasionly before you see what they are doing. Although in the latest volume of Trigun Maximum (Volume 5), the fights for me seem to be getting easier to follow; perhaps it is because the style has changed or else I have just adjusted to the way it is done. I will also give you my opinion on Berserk was I start reading that; I got everyone released in the U.S. so far except for the first volume. ^^;

Orochimura? A pimp?! o.0 Yeah, I guess so, it a weird, freaky way...

And yes indeed Riaf, you are just a plain *******. But you should be an ******* for getting me into pairings involved in Naruto. -.-;

I love the "no spoilers". :D

Riaf
3rd June 2005, 11:14 PM
I’m good in English and Science, but I’m screwed in Math. I don’t know man, I ain’t exactly the sharpest tool in the shed. That’s why I’m like Naurto. I also wear goggles. We love noodles/spaghetti. And I get drunk on fun. But then again, I’m really lazy. I don’t take things seriously and I want a simple life. Also, I have Lee’s hair, nerdiess and determination when I feel like it.

There’s nobody from the past who would work. Mizuki’s all screwed up, Gatou’s company failed, Zabuza and Haku died heroes, Gaara and his team would be completely unethical and Orochimaru’s forces are weaker than even Itachi. If it were a good guy, well, I’ll just say that Shino’s dad is a crappy choice for now.

I hope she gets one. She’s been standing in the boring parts of the ocean. And, even though the next chapter will have Gai’s group fighting Atasuki, I bet Ten Ten will be knocked out in ten minutes flat. That sucks.

Time management, I got that. How else do you think I spend time not posting here? Besides, being on two forums with all of that junk is easy. C’mon man, you scared or something?

The fight worried me too. I think that Kishimoto should have paced it out a bit more; it seems that 3 chapters for a couple of events were used. It certainly felt like my first fic as it was going too fast for the readers to enjoy or understand. It was ****, and I hope Naurto doesn’t turn to that.


Bah, why’s it Christianity? Other religions could easily have the same debates. But, it’s not like I care.


Wow, you read a lot of manga. e_e I’ll check out Hellsing but I need money. I think I’ll get a job or shark some money form my parents.


Instead of a bastard, I should be an *******? Sure.

HK
6th June 2005, 3:08 AM
Well... let me see: I like Ramen Noodles a helluva lot; I'm lazy; I have a outlook that humanity will eventually destroy itself; I have a sarcastic sense of humor. Hmm... Naruto, Shikamaru, Neji and... someone else, combined.

Dude, nothing is happening to Mizuki at all... he just, vanished. I read something in a fic about that, and it was hilarious. I'll give a link to that later. Gatou is just plain dead, same thing with Zabuza and Haku (although they seem to have a revalation of sorts at the time of their deaths). The Sand Siblings are now good guys (with one of them in the possible list to die in the upcoming chapters). Orochimaru is... well, crappy, although there are a lot of questions about Kabuto that haven't been answered as of yet... so no, the Leader of the Akatsuki isn't a villian that we haven't seen before.

I've said it before and I will say it again: As much as I like TenTen and other ones to get at least somewhat of a role, it ain't going to happen. Right now I somehow think that Kishi' is only going to focus on characters who are extremely relevant to the plot right now. Those being: Naruto (duh), Sasuke, Sakura, Kakashi, Orochimaru, Tsunade, Jiraiya, Itachi, etc. (I don't want to list all of them right now. @.@)

I'm scared of being on two forums? Lol, oddest reason that I ever heard. Naw, I just have to finish up the final exams for the school and then I'll be able to finally enjoy my summer. Then I can focus on working out again, preparing for the wrestling and tenis team at High School, working on my fanfics, working on my own original novels, going online to two forums, etc. And that happens in... five days, beyatches.

Actually, I have been considering the pace of Part 2 right now. IMO, it started out way too damn fast, but no where it is currently at, the pace is actually well done. I'm guessing that Kishi' just wanted to get to the Akatsuki really badly. After his initial rush, I guessing that Kishi' is finally going to settle in a good pace. Then of course, it could be considered fast just because of the fact that the "Rescuse Sasuke Arc" lasted about... 60 chapters. o.0 Yeah... (I sound like Deidara)

I think it was the "Grand Christian Debate" for two reasons:

1) Christianity is the biggest religion in America right now, and considering that the majority of the people here live in America (or at least a good portion of them do), it was made about Christianity.

2) Latios is a biased Christian who is too narrowed-minded to accept the fact that Christianity, among plenty of other religions, are just faiths that can never be as true as science.

Yeah... (Deidara is a guy, right?)

Oh hell yeah I read a lot of manga. I'm thinking of putting up my entire list of my manga collection. I'm also hypocritical because I recently got the Naruto GN's and the One Piece GN's... and also the I"s GN. Meh, I guess the perverted side in me won when I was so hell-bent on not buying it originally. :P And don't rush to get the money for Hellsing, Volume 7 doesn't come out until September 21st. But yeah, Hellsing is a truly magnificent manga, Riaf.

And yes, Riaf, you are an *******... no, an asswipe. I'm an *******, and you are an asswipe. There we go, we have our titles finally decided. :p

Riaf
8th June 2005, 4:54 AM
And yes, Riaf, you are an *******... no, an asswipe. I'm an *******, and you are an asswipe. There we go, we have our titles finally decided.

Thanks, I 'll make it my user title.

I’d like to see that fic, Gatou sucks, and Temari’s becoming as loved by fans as Hinata is. Man, all I care about is knowing about his eyes. Why do they look like Sharigan/ Kureani’s? Speaking of which, isn’t Asuma the 3rd’s son or something? >_<

Damn, why didn’t Kishi give some time to introduce the characters after the time skip? At this rate, no one else will even matter to the plot. Another reason why the Atasuki Arc should be the finish of Naurto. Also, Shikamaru should be on that list.

Yeah, these tests are piling on us really badly. And I still have to finish projects in Tech and Art. I’m seriously screwed here. That’s why I was gonna tell you that the work will stop me from posting long posts like these til like, next week. Damn, so much work.

Like I said before, the characters are being neglected and the pace seems to simply let them be pushed to the side. Even if they randomly appear to save them form minor Atasuki trouble, they won’t have a background of their 3 years in training. And Deidara is cool.

Bah, I thought he was a good mod. Oh well. I saw him type “ I will kill my mod status if you guys hate me.” Kinda sad, eh? You and PsiUmbreon mad him like this?

I think Deidara’s a girl, but it doesn’t matter. He/she’s kickass.

But I only have like…5 bucks. I need to get some money by July.

Brinstar
8th June 2005, 5:16 AM
Deidara is male. At least, if his voice is any indication in the anime, as it was deep as hell.

Riaf
8th June 2005, 9:19 PM
Deidara is male. At least, if his voice is any indication in the anime, as it was deep as hell.

Bah, I'll still only see him as a female. Therte needs to be some Atasuki women there.

HK
11th June 2005, 3:05 PM
You are still in denile, Riaf. Come on, you couldn't tell that it was a guy all along? Come on man, consider Haku, Orochimaru's first alternate body, Gaara's uncle (I can never remember his name), Sakon (well, this is really more opinion though), etc. There is a reason as to why Kishimoto is truthful that he can't draw women, he makes them all guys. o.0

Meh, not too sure if Asuma was the Sarutobi's son, I think that might've been a rumor. Although then of course, wouldn't that make Konohamaru the son of Asuma? o.0 Connections...

I think him not introducing all of the characters is basically his way of saying: "Unless they are referenced directly and are relevent to the plot, they are utterly useless! The anti-Hinata people are right, I've been trying to get it across to the fans for years now! Hinata is a secondary character and meaningless to the plot!" :p Sorry, I just had to reference to Hinata. Again, I don't hate Hinata at all, but I want to kill all of the Hina-tards over... and over... and over... and over... and over... and over... and over... you get the picture.

Well, I'm out for the summer beyatches! Life is indeed good.

Would you rather have a bunch of characters just randomly appear for the sake of appearing? Really, I want them to show up for a good reason. And you also have to accept the fact that since Kishi' has introduced so many characters that some are obviously going to be neglected. Also, Riaf, you have to consider the fact that some characters are really irrelevent to the plot. >> Personally I can wait as long as the plot progresses.

PsiUmbreon and I made Latios mad? Well, dunno about Psi, but I doubt I really did much to do it. I'm not really all that active on the Debate Section as much as I used to be; hell, I'm not that much active on the forums period. Try looking at pretty much all of the Atheists there. I mean, I might've said something, but I don't think that I was the "problem". -.-

BTW, in reference to you going out and buying some more manga, get some Dark Horse Manga ones. And if you can stomach a lot of gore, hideous monsters, rape, nudity, cussing, etc., then get Berserk. I'm telling you man, I have never read a more magnificent manga as Berserk... ever. It is... well, simply put, a masterpiece. I truly do wish that Dark Horse Manga could put it out faster, because right now it is up to Volume 29 in Japan, and the U.S. only has up to Volume 7. Yeah, a long series. But dude, right now I would say without a doubt in my mind that Berserk is my favorite manga that I have ever read, and it is a true masterpiece. If you are allowed to get it (it is 18+), then get it. It is ****ing awesome.

Brinstar
11th June 2005, 5:02 PM
Sarutobi is NOT related to the 3rd. Sarutobi is the 3rd's first name, Sarutobi is Asuma's family name. There has been a lot of confusion regarding this, but no Asuma is not related to the 3rd.

I can confirm Deidara's gender after reading a few chapters' raw versions. Deidara's speech patterns are distinctly masculine. He is male.

So have you guys read Chap263? Naruto is ******.

That Scary Clefairy
12th June 2005, 12:03 AM
BTW, in reference to you going out and buying some more manga, get some Dark Horse Manga ones. And if you can stomach a lot of gore, hideous monsters, rape, nudity, cussing, etc., then get Berserk. I'm telling you man, I have never read a more magnificent manga as Berserk... ever. It is... well, simply put, a masterpiece. I truly do wish that Dark Horse Manga could put it out faster, because right now it is up to Volume 29 in Japan, and the U.S. only has up to Volume 7. Yeah, a long series. But dude, right now I would say without a doubt in my mind that Berserk is my favorite manga that I have ever read, and it is a true masterpiece. If you are allowed to get it (it is 18+), then get it. It is ****ing awesome.

lol you forgot to tell good ol' Raif that i suggested it! Damn you! Lolo. yea every thing HK said(which i told him) i recomenned getting those three series from Dark Horse: Berserk, Trigun/Maximum, and Hellsing. Hk and i made tread on those three on the manga section. so rather than talking about them on the Naruto thread, try doing it on those threads respectivley.

Man, Gaara died??!! i been living in a rock for too long. hell i don't know what going on in Naruto lately. i heard that the story going down hill though. true?

Kyuubi-Kun
19th June 2005, 1:06 AM
The story isn't going down hill. Maybe for the anime's filler, but not manga. That's getting interesting, considering they're fighting Akatsuki and the guys are far more stronger now.

Riaf
20th June 2005, 5:35 AM
I know about the pretty boys in Naruto, HK. I still think Haku is really cute. But I misread something when Deidara was talking about "You and your husband" in 246/7.

Still, why did Kishi give them similar names? There must be a reason.

They can’t be neglected because they…just can’t. Shikamaru has to prove himself a better leader, Chouji needs to get appreciated, Ino needs some better character, Hinata has a promise to get stronger, Kiba has to toughen him and Shikamaru up and Shino needs…something. Even if they (Hinata) don’t affect the plot anymore, they simply can’t be ignored without a conclusion to their resolution.

They don’t need to randomly appear. Like I said earlier, all I want is something to be dedicated to them.

Damn, 18+? Why? If it’s sexuality, then I am going to have to work my way around it.

TSC, I didn’t get any yet. I plan to get Naruto Volume 7, FMA Volume 2 and Helsing Volume 1 (maybe 2 if my money permits it). When’s the next release date for the next Helsing volume?

If you mean “Can Part 2 compare to Part 1?”, then yes, it is going downhill. If you mean “Does Part 2 suck?”, then no. True, the art has gotten worse, but it’s really the Orochimaru thing. He plagued in 46 and stills haunts in 264 today. Naturally, anyone would be peeved.

Kyuubi-Kun, wtf? The anime filler’s doing alright. Hell, because if it, I foresee major plot changes with the manga and anime. What’s wrong with it?

That Scary Clefairy
20th June 2005, 5:58 AM
Damn, 18+? Why? If it’s sexuality, then I am going to have to work my way around it.

TSC, I didn’t get any yet. I plan to get Naruto Volume 7, FMA Volume 2 and Helsing Volume 1 (maybe 2 if my money permits it). When’s the next release date for the next Helsing volume?


Well Berserk is 18+ because it has extreme sex scences, violences and raping of a little kid in one scene. don't let that degrde the manga cause the story and etc is amazing. In case you looking for what the art look like in Berserk, look at my sig. That Guts, the main character, when he piss off.

Hellsing is awesome! glad you're going to get it! volume one may not interest you quickly, but by volume 2 you'll blown away! Dark Horse has released 6 volume in US so far, and Volume 7 comes out in September. Japan is working on Volume 8. We cought up pretty damn fast.

Riaf
20th June 2005, 7:08 PM
Huh, I'll try to get some way of reading Beserk...But I want to see it. How did you guys see it?

That's a lot to buy...I can't wait.

Kyuubi-Kun
20th June 2005, 11:13 PM
Kyuubi-Kun, wtf? The anime filler’s doing alright. Hell, because if it, I foresee major plot changes with the manga and anime. What’s wrong with it? I didn't mean the filler was doing so bad. I haven't actually watched the last recent episodes so I can't really judge for myself, though I do know that I didn't like the first filler arc much. I guess a majority of the Naruto fans hate seeing things that aren't true to the storyline in the manga. Plus, we all wanna see Kakashi gaiden and Part 2. I'll be getting the filler eps sometime soon to see how good it is (I do hear that it's doing well).

That Scary Clefairy
20th June 2005, 11:17 PM
Huh, I'll try to get some way of reading Beserk...But I want to see it. How did you guys see it?

That's a lot to buy...I can't wait.


Well i dunno if you live in US or UK but in US, you can get the hellsing and Berserk manga in retailer stores like Barnes and Noble, Borders, or Walden Books. We have 7 volume of Berserk out in US so far out of 29+ in Japan, which is still continuing. Pm me or Instant message me at Kenshin007X for scans and more information on either Hellsing or Berserk.

Riaf
21st June 2005, 1:13 AM
Kyuubi-Kun, I get your point now. But the filler is doing well at the moment, despite how crappy it was the first episode.

TSC, is that screenname for AOL?

That Scary Clefairy
21st June 2005, 2:11 AM
yea it is for AOL.

HK
21st June 2005, 5:03 AM
Glad to see that you are going to get Hellsing and possibly Berserk, Riaf. Trust me, you will not regret it. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but you support *some* Yaoi pairings, don't you? Then you may like Berserk because... well, in a way, it sorta indirectly includes that, in a hilarious way. :p

In Chapter 246, Deidara was reffering to Sasori as his master. I'm not remembering very well, but "master" and "husband" got confused there. And may I say it... a lot of the guys in Naruto are acutally... cute. o.0 Excuse me... *Gargles mouth with Listerine* Ahh... better.

Uhh... Kishi' just messed up with the names? Really though, Sarutobi is Asuma's family name. They refer him as "Sarutobi-sensei", therefore making "Sarutobi" his first name, not the family name. Honestly, dude, Sarutobi Asuma is related to Sarutobi Sarutobi? >> Sure...

Sure, they can be neglected. How? Kishi' just doesn't put that much effort into their character. He is the author after all. :p Really though, that is a problem with having such a vast cast as that, and character development can get tricky. Kishi' has done quite well with it before, save for Shino and TenTen, so he may be able to give them some development in Part 2 that will satisfy the fans.

TSC has already explained why Berserk is a heavily rated manga, so I'll leave it at that. I will say it again though: Berserk is a manga that is unlike any other that I have ever read, and it is easily my favorite manga. It is simply as closet to perfection, in my mind, as you can get. And the artwork gets a helluva lot better (from what I've heard and skimmed through) and the plot gets better, which is something in itself. Berserk, simply put, is a masterpiece.

Curious, when does FMA come out here from Viz in the United States? I know that it is in July, but what exact day?

Actually, right now, Part 2 has improved with the past chapters. Honestly, save for rushing into the Akatsuki plotline and missing a good majority of the former Konoha genin and how they have progressed is somewhat saddening, but honestly I would rather have a great plot with the characters that truly matter right now, and then have characters that aren't as vital appear after the current situation. Really, these *******es (mostly Hinatards XP) say that they think that another team will be sent in to help out Team 7 and Team Gai. What they fail to realize is that this is a long trek, three days, and to send out another team would eb ridiculous. The whining idiots need to figure out that all of the characters that will be involve have appeared in the past few chapters, and anymore wouldn't really be needed.

As for the anime... I don't watch it, so I can't really comment. Apparently in the anime filler though, Naruto finally had his first contact with a female breast. :D For some odd reason, it indirectly screams that he is going to be the new pervy-sannin. :p

Edit- As far as the artwork is concerned, it is as detailed as it was before, but I really, really like it. It actually fits it all, and save for Deidara stating that Gaara truly is dead, it has been awesome. Again, this is just my opinion, but Kishimoto is somehow able to display emotions even better. Example for you? The latest chapter - Chapter 264 - on page four or five. It shows Naruto in complete and utter rage that I have never seen him in before... Honestly, to say that that doesn't look ****ing tight is just plain stupid. :p

Megchan
21st June 2005, 5:42 AM
Curious, when does FMA come out here from Viz in the United States? I know that it is in July, but what exact day?


The first volume of FMA is already out, the second volume will come out July 5th. You can find other release dates on their website. Just check their site about once a month and they usually have a new months releases up. :3

HK
28th June 2005, 10:49 PM
Thanks, Hinata Hyuuga. I already have the first volume, but I was wondering when Viz was exactly going to release the second volume in the July. Hmm... while I'm at it, when it the second volume of MAR coming out? :p And I really do want to know.

Actually, I think I need to make a correction. It was Chapter 263 in which Naruto looked so sadistic. Or was it really Chapter 264? Dammit, I'm just confused right now.

Anyway, it really shows the compare and contrast to his true gung-ho persona, eh? Some have debated as to what he truly is, but personally I just feel the angst that he has right now isn't his true self. Some say that he really is like that and that he doesn't open up to others, but the truth he, the obnoxious brat who always is eager for a challenge is Naruto.

As a side note, from what I have heard, there are mixed reactions about the filler. Even though I haven't seen, it seems like the anime is screwing up a bit. The Akatsuki is what the main plot is about in Part 2 of the manga, and the anime team seems to be focusing on Sasuke. -.- Honestly, that is why Naruto trained for 2.5 years in the first place, but you also have to consider that the big picture is about the Akatsuki. Meh, I'm strictly a manga person when it comes to Naruto anyway, so it doesn't matter to me.

As a side note, Sakura kicked some serious *** in the recent chapter. She has seriously improved in the last 2.5 years under Tsunade, and from just pure speculation on my part, I wouldn't be suprised if she is the strongest female shinobi (there is a btter term, but it escapes my mind at the moment) in Konoha right now, save for Tsunade. I'm interested in the aftermath of her destroying Sasori's first puppet, and I also wonder if Kishi' is going to show what Sasori really looks like under the puppet. I wouldn't think that he would be really big, unless he can really fit into a tight space like that. o.0

Although I thought that it was a bit stupid for Naruto to tell Kakashi to go into the cave and help out Sakura and Chiyo. Honestly, Sakura has trained under Tsunade for the last 2.5 years, and Chiyo is the one who sealed Shukaku inside Gaara and she herself knows Sasori the best out of all of them. Naruto feeling that he can take on an Akatsuki member singlehandedly, despite Deidara being weaker than Sasori, is just plain irrational and stupid, even for Naruto. -.-

Meh, I hope that Chapter 265 makes up for that.

Riaf
29th June 2005, 5:25 AM
Why were you and Wondrous Sableye so ****** at me? God. U_U

It was Chapter 264. I think.

Well, can you blame him? I mean, Atasuki, the evil organization that he hates, may have killed Gaara, the misunderstood guy he loves. I mean, he is being himself for showing his reaction to someone kidnapping his best friend.

It takes place right after Sasuke leaves. The emotional grief is still on Naruto and Sakura. Jiraiys begs Tsunade for them to go on an investegation to the Sound. Atasuki isn't really focused yet.

It's Kunochi or something (the spelling escapes me). Anyway, I wouldn't be suprised if Sasori looked like an older Naruto, save for the scracthed cheeks and hairstyle. Also, I wanna know why Chiyo relates Naruto to Sasori. Family question fianally solved, maybe?

Lol. (Isn't that the same thing you said to me). Well, maybe Naruto had a trick up his sleeve and didn't want Kakashi to see...? Yeah, I don't know.

Notice how Shannaro changed Deidara's "Yeah's" to "Umm..." or "Hmm...". What's up with that?


Meh, I hope that Chapter 265 makes up for that.

Aren't we already on 265?

Kyuubi-Kun
29th June 2005, 7:22 AM
Notice how Shannaro changed Deidara's "Yeah's" to "Umm..." or "Hmm...". What's up with that? Um, don't you get Shannaro's scanslations? There's an explaination included with their scanslations in their high-quality versions of chapters 263 and 264.

Riaf
30th June 2005, 8:35 PM
Oh. Yeah, I don't read the high quality version since NarutoFan stopped annoucning them.

Brinstar
30th June 2005, 9:10 PM
Well Sasori's true form has been revealed.... and he's....













a bishounen o_o;;

Kyuubi-Kun
1st July 2005, 9:25 PM
He looks just like how Chiyo remembered too. And he hasn't even aged yet! What's up with that... Maybe it has something to do with his puppet body?

Riaf
2nd July 2005, 6:53 AM
Um...isn't that the the Third Kazakage? I'm confused.

HK, did you join the Forums yet?

HK
3rd July 2005, 6:10 PM
Just a little off-topic question: Anyone besides me on this thread ****** off that Serebii brought back Reputation? Seriously, Jay has already been banned because of that (well, something related to it anyway), and I'm figurin' that it will become hell again. Way to go Serebii, a very smart decision on your part. :rolleyes:

Onto the topic itself.

Well, Riaf, I already explained why I was ****** off at you for your comments on the old thread, but that is in the past. Don't worry about that now.

And yeah, I did join Naruto Forums. Just a matter of waiting for my account to be activated. *Waits semi-patiently*

Meh, I was confused about the chapters there for a second. Well, now I got it straight: The past chapter this week was 266. The upcoming one this week is chapter 267. So, did I get it right this time? Hell yeah. :D

As for Sasori... whoa, I am guessin' that there will be an upsurge of Sasori fangirls in accordance to the recent chapter. That kind of face was absolutely the last thing that I would've thought that he would've looked like. (Did that last sentence make sense?) And the strange thing is, Chiyo herself has stated that Sasori hasn't aged a day since she saw her... Hmm, a relation to Orochimaru's Immortality Jutsu? o.0

Also, with the last chapter, this yet again restores my faith in how powerful the Akatsuki truly is. With Sasori actually killing the Third Kazekage all of those years ago, that means he must be really, really powerful. I wonder who strong the leader is, in that light... Damn, he must be like, uber Kyuubi, or something. o.0

And let us be honest, who here thought that in the middle of the chapter that the Third Kazekage was the leader of the Akatsuki. >> Before the final few pages, it was practically screaming that. Too bad Kishi' had to reveal that Sasori had made him into one of his puppets, ya know? The theories about the leader would've been amassed by at least... one thousand times more. o.0

Also, I wasn't as impressed with Naruto and Kakashi fighting against Deidara. Really, Kakashi decided to stay after Naruto told him to help out Sakura and Chiyo? And without telling Naruto that he will stay? o.0 Damn, Kakashi sucks as a teacher... Although, I was interested in Deidara's comments that the Akatsuki, before capturing Gaara, already has obtained two other Youma/Bijuu. Wonder which ones they are...?

As a side note, Part 2, due to recent chapters, has become a whole lot more interesting. Oh, and I think that Kishi' is making it obvious who the main characters are and who the side characters are... Again, I hate rabid Hinata fanboys. -.-

Riaf
8th July 2005, 7:31 AM
What’s the point? We all know that Serebii is gonna get gazillion of them and Jay gets gazillion red ones.

Yeah, you’re on! W00t, I’ll send a PM or something.

I think that Sasori's armor has an account to his age. But then again, isn't Chiyo 50? Being her grandson, I think that age is reasonable. Still, a bishounen? WTF?

Did you ever have doubt? I mean, Orochiamru killed two Kages, Itachi wiped out his whole clan in one night, Deidara brought Gaara down in seconds and Kisame pwned Gai for a while. How much do you wanna bet the Leader isn’t the strongest but can do more Justus or something?

* Raises hand* Course, I’m not the fastest guy at these things so I’m not sure how valid it is. >_> But, seriously, if Yondaime turns out to be the leader, I’ll rip out all the hair on my head. (And that’s saying something).

Kishi got last with that or he forgot that Kakashi said that, prolly. Oh, and they are Rin and Inari. Just cuz. XD

Always gotta slip that in eh? Yeah…Orochimaru doesn’t seem to be focused anymore. What was his purpose? I mean, I’m sure he was so obsessed with the idea of immortality but that reason sucks. I wish we got to know him. But it doesn’t look like we will. I don’t think that we will see Orochimaru, Sasuke or Kabuto for a long time.

Speaking of Orochimaru, y’know the current part of the anime? Mizuki is back and he was under Orochiamru. How wicked is that?

Kyuubi-Kun
9th July 2005, 3:31 AM
Chapter 267 out. A big puppet fight between Chiyo and Sasori and Sakura gets caught in the middle. She went all berserk suddenly after hearing about Orochimaru. Can't wait to see next chapter. Sasori's puppet parents vs. the Sandaime Kazekage.

Carnifex
13th July 2005, 6:02 PM
I have just got the first two Volumes but they rock so i cant wait to get some more volumes during the summer.

Wow its already upto volume 267?I can only find the first 50 or so on Amazon.

Celebii
13th July 2005, 6:07 PM
I have just got the first two Volumes but they rock so i cant wait to get some more volumes during the summer.

Wow its already upto volume 267?I can only find the first 50 or so on Amazon.

I dont think the Naruto Manga is already up to volume 267. If I am not mistaken its on volume 30. 267 is the chapter that was realeased to the net pirates a few days ago.

Carnifex
13th July 2005, 8:55 PM
Oh ok good i thought that i was going to have to spend all my money if i wanted all the volumes.

HK
23rd July 2005, 7:42 PM
Umm... ya both mean chapters, right? @.@ Anyway, this place has ceratinly been deserted for a while... I NEED TO REVIVE IT!

The last chapter chapters were rather... well, the amount of flashbacks to describe Sasori's past were... not that many. o.0 Kinda different than what Kishimoto does. Oh well, at least it shut up the *******es who were complaining that it was bad "story-telling" for you to constantly use flashbacks to explain a character's past. And they also complain that they wish that they could have a villian to just hate, like Orochimaru. -.- Personally I think that Orochimaru is the most uninteresting villian in the series (I'm not including Mizuki and Gatou in this), because is just so... bland.

I'll comment more once there is a higher quality release by Shannaro later on. This past chapter was one of the worst visually when it came to the scans. @.@

Brinstar
24th July 2005, 1:36 AM
I'm guessing Sasori and Chiyo Baa will die here and now. The last few pages of 269 were incredible action scenes, and it's nice to see Sakura actually do something for once. Now, if we could only see Naruto and Kakashi strut their stuff...

Riaf
24th July 2005, 8:19 PM
Dammit, I'm jealous. I'm on vacation and I don't have access. ;_;

What's the on Gaara?

Alastor DMc
25th July 2005, 6:14 AM
For right now, Gaara is dead, but I'm sure that won't be a forever thing. (The way he suddenly died was too anticlimatic for such a popular character.) We haven't seen Naruto in a few weeks, and have been watching a (boring) battle of pupets, with Sakura occationaly doing things. I'm anxiously waiting for Gai's team and Kakashi and Naruto to start doing things again.

Skiks
28th July 2005, 4:19 PM
You call the puppet battle boring? We get to see sasori in action. Aswell as sakura finally getting the nerve to fight. Plus we might learn more about sasori's past.

Rex Kamex
31st July 2005, 3:18 AM
I dont think the Naruto Manga is already up to volume 267. If I am not mistaken its on volume 30. 267 is the chapter that was realeased to the net pirates a few days ago.

Actually, Volume 29 is going to come out in August.