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Saikon
17th June 2011, 6:37 PM
Alright, guys, here is the tournament that I have been promising to some people. Here is where I will lay down the rules and format, as well as how things will operate.

First off, the tournament will run by 64 competitors, or the nearest multiple of 4 to 64 for the tournament. That means if 64 isn't met, some people will be "blown off" to keep it at a steady, even level.

The tournament will be updated once a week. I urge all battlers to battle ASAP as their rankings go into the servers. You can either PM me on YouTube (PBRMasterKai) or PM me on here with the results. Replays are NOT required, but are encouraged for other's viewing purposes (They won't go up until the semi or final rounds for cheating purposes.) Both post updates here and video updates for YouTube will be sent out, so please subscribe to the thread and the channel for said updates.

The Tournament will commence with the first set being Bo3 (Best of 3). All three matches WILL be played, First with two wins the set. Switching teams is not necessary, but is encouraged to make it more interesting.

THERE ARE PRIZES TO BE WON.

1st Place winner gets a full NEW team of their choice made by myself, and a spot in my Sponsorship box on YouTube for two weeks.

2nd Place winner gets 4 Pokemon of their choice, and a spot in my Sponsorship box for one week.

And 3rd Place winners get 2 Pokemon of their choice, as well as a shoutout in a video for them.

As for the rules, they go as follows;

ITEMS CLAUSE - This clause comes into play full tournament. However, the only items that are banned are items that raise evasion (Lax Incense, Bright Powder, etc)
HACKS CLAUSE - This is pretty standard, no need to explain.

UBERS CLAUSE - There will be a custom made set of Ubers a bit father down, once again, still standard.

EVASION CLAUSE - This clause is a full-tournament clause.

OHKO CLAUSE - Still standard. Anything that One-Shots Pokemon (Sheer Cold, Fissure, etc) are banned full-tournament.

SLEEP CLAUSE - Standard. No more than 1 Pokemon can be asleep. If the opponent uses Rest (Self-induced Sleep) you can still put 1 more Pokemon to Sleep.

SPECIES CLAUSE - Still Standard. No more than 1 of the same Pokemon per Team.

ABILITIES CLAUSE - Certain abilities are banned. Such Abilities are Drizzle+Swift Swim combo, and Moody.
ABILITIES UPDATE: New Ban; Sand Stream/Sand Veil. Thinking on how Chomp gets EASY EASY set ups with Sub/Veil, it doesn't exactly seem fair to allow Sand Stream based teams to have Sand Veil.
Sand Stream/Sand Rush is now banned.

Now, with the rules out of the way, let's get going to Ubers/Banned List.
Pokemon that are banned include:
Blaziken
Dialga
Darkrai
Palkia
Manaphy
Zekrom
Reshiram
Rayquaza
Groudon
Kyogre
Deoxys
Deoxys-Attack
Lugia
Ho-oh
Mewtwo
Latios
Latias
Giratina (Both forms)
Arceus (All forms)
Wobbuffet
Skymin (Shaymin Sky Form)
Wynaut
Meloetta
Keldeo

All rules are open for negotiation. You MUST provide a good, valid arguement to support your reasoning behind the negotiation. Registration is now closed, the tournament will begin on the 19th of July.

All registered users should register in the tournament at the home forums, please.
http://www.midnightpd.heavenforum.org/

Players currently Registered: 34/64
Saikon Tategami - 0304 0026 5688
Firelord767 - 2150 8431 0010
Jerry - 3611 0676 9537
Celejammer - 3353 5813 3766
blaaz - 4641 9752 9709
Nevlo - 2923 8497 8791
Bobyjoe - 0303 9163 3260
Wailord_2 - 3954 6334 2098
Ravern - 2236 7827 3649
Arash - 2451 4137 8273
abrar - 1592 5151 9825
Scubasteve23 - 0303 9093 4897
Insomnimaniac - 4813 8077 9726
Cerebral Bugs - 3267 6199 9632
Snivy18 - 4470 0265 6386
Killer - 1377 6750 6855
Snowmankid - 4942 5681 8030
Shadow - 1463 6969 8124
Trainer - 2623 3386 9276
Max - 2279 6114 7943
Asbel - 4427 2992 4433
pokemario24 - 4770 8661 4340
pambi - 5071 4831 2747
@migo - 1850 0999 6079
Cometk - 2623 2225 5730
DragonMaster123 - 2022 0669 8066
Lord of Grapes - 3911 7733 1226
Darkness Master - 1850 0993 1036
Pokeonrocks2012 - 3138 5872 1129
Jets - 3138 5964 8446
mredozook - 2279 6241 6617

The tournament list has been fully compiled! Sadly, only 32 of us were able to come in to keep it well rounded, so I apologize to those who got the boot. Good luck everyone! Image for the listings is in the spoiler!

Spoiler tags aren't working, so I'll just link you guys to the first Tournament Listings image.

http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss297/BeyRazor-HeroX/Tournament.png

#TWERKTEAM
19th June 2011, 12:40 AM
no sign up for so just posting in

Utopian
19th June 2011, 1:11 AM
in

10char.

Angeltripper
19th June 2011, 1:15 AM
i guess ill join. a question though:

why do they ban swift swim/drizzle combo but not:

drought/chlorofoyll combo
sand stream/sand rush combo

Wailord_2
19th June 2011, 1:58 AM
I'll sign up! .........

#TWERKTEAM
19th June 2011, 2:15 AM
i guess ill join. a question though:

why do they ban swift swim/drizzle combo but not:

drought/chlorofoyll combo
sand stream/sand rush combo

Things with Swift Swim have better attacking stats and they gain a boost to their STAB moves with the Rain. They also generally have better speed.

Pokemonrocks2012
19th June 2011, 4:01 AM
i would like to join and add chomp to the list he's uber

Ravern
19th June 2011, 4:25 AM
I'll Join This Tourny.

Plusle.
20th June 2011, 7:25 AM
In 10character

Jew Bagel
20th June 2011, 12:36 PM
I will join, but take Latios off, he isn't Uber.

abrar14
20th June 2011, 4:09 PM
i'll join........

Blaaz
21st June 2011, 3:02 AM
ill join and guys he already said i was a custom list

ArashEsfKhos
21st June 2011, 4:50 AM
ill join fc is 2451 4137 8273

ClassicSG
21st June 2011, 7:34 PM
I'll join, looks like fun

Dragin990
21st June 2011, 8:30 PM
I'll join. wat about the match ups? how will we know?

Polostick
21st June 2011, 8:50 PM
Now, with the rules out of the way, let's get going to Ubers/Banned List.
Pokemon that are banned include:
Blaziken
Dialga
Palkia
Manaphy
Zekrom
Reshiram
Rayquaza
Groudon
Kyogre
Deoxys
Deoxys-Attack
Lugia
Ho-oh
Mewtwo
Latios
Latias
Giratina (Both forms)
Arceus (All forms)
Wobbuffet
Skymin (Shaymin Sky Form)
Wynaut

What about Darkrai, and Garchomp?

ArashEsfKhos
22nd June 2011, 3:08 AM
no way garchomp shud totally not be banned cuz then salamence and dragonite(especially multiscale) shud be banned but darkrai for sure cuz dark void is way too cheap. and he is uber but Chomp aint uber

Polostick
22nd June 2011, 5:44 AM
Pokemon that are banned include:
Blaziken
Dialga
Palkia
Manaphy
Zekrom
Reshiram
Rayquaza
Groudon
Kyogre
Deoxys
Deoxys-Attack
Lugia
Ho-oh
Mewtwo
Latios
Latias
Giratina (Both forms)
Arceus (All forms)
Wobbuffet
Skymin (Shaymin Sky Form)
Wynaut


What about Darkrai, and Garchomp?


no way garchomp shud totally not be banned cuz then salamence and dragonite(especially multiscale) shud be banned but darkrai for sure cuz dark void is way too cheap. and he is uber but Chomp aint uber


I think I know what i'm going to spam all through out the tournament.
Salamence isn't as feared as he was in this new generation of OU Pokemon.
Dragonite is annoying but he shouldn't be banned. But yea, I have a good feeling about what this tournament would be like if garchomp isn't banned. If you plan on using standard OU, then please take a second look at this list, if not, then I do not want to participate.

TrollFreak
23rd June 2011, 7:33 PM
Inb4hax

xd

insomnimaniac11
23rd June 2011, 9:51 PM
ill join .

Cerebral Bugs
23rd June 2011, 11:18 PM
I will join

Snivy18
25th June 2011, 2:14 AM
i guess ill join

K1LL3RxP0P7aRt
25th June 2011, 4:06 AM
sign me up!

Is it Double or Single Battles?

pokemonguy97
25th June 2011, 9:42 AM
i wanna join

Asbel
25th June 2011, 10:56 PM
I'll join then..

Utopian
25th June 2011, 11:10 PM
when does this start.....

snowmankid
27th June 2011, 3:44 AM
im in
pokemon white fc 4942 5681 8030
name BAKER

Remorph
28th June 2011, 3:38 PM
It would be a crime NOT to enter. I'm so in. I'll have my FC up soon on my signature, so don't worry.

kimabfmv1
30th June 2011, 3:04 AM
im in, if i might ask why is blaziken banned(it doesn't bother me or anything im just curious)

Polostick
30th June 2011, 3:15 AM
if i might ask why is blaziken banned(it doesn't bother me or anything im just curious)

His ability is what gave him the edge. The metagame was around him, and every team had to carry a slowbro to counter it.

shadow130690
30th June 2011, 3:29 AM
Sign me up

gregjammer
1st July 2011, 9:21 PM
last spot?

in!

fc:0175 0590 8073, also in sig.

and is this thing under flat battle ds, no restrictions ds, or PO wifi tier?

If either one of the latter two possibilities is true, then I guess I have to get busy leveling my pokemon before beginning the first battle of this thing...

trainer7715
2nd July 2011, 12:07 AM
Sign me up!

Blaaz
2nd July 2011, 9:27 PM
when can we get this underway

Saikon
3rd July 2011, 2:06 AM
Thank you for everyone that has signed up. I'm sorry for being so... gone. I forgot about here sadly due to all the works I've been doing. If you could, please post back on my fourms for it, just to keep it neater. All questions/comments are welcomed.
Thank you to Celejammer for reminding me about this, since I waited so long for it to be approved.
Chomp will be up for debate between us around here so that way we keep things fair. You must have a valid arguement behind your choice. Please post FCs with your registration post, kthxbai.

http://www.midnightpd.heavenforum.org/

Blaaz
3rd July 2011, 2:12 AM
im in sorry for not posting the fc 4641-9752-9709

beshort123
3rd July 2011, 9:25 PM
I'm joining. And i agree with Darkness Master. Latios isnt uber

Saikon
3rd July 2011, 10:25 PM
I'm joining. And i agree with Darkness Master. Latios isnt uber

You must provide a valid argument to have it passed. Please, register on the forums to keep this neat. Link is in the OP.

beshort123
4th July 2011, 1:32 AM
OK i joined. And my argument is Soul Dew Latios is illegal. Otherwise, its not a problem at all. Their really easy to kill.

Saikon
4th July 2011, 4:51 AM
OK i joined. And my argument is Soul Dew Latios is illegal. Otherwise, its not a problem at all. Their really easy to kill.

Ehh, thinking on it, but not really a valid enough reason to take it from the list.

Nevlo
4th July 2011, 8:53 AM
I'll join!

Leave the rules as they are = good imo

Lord Of Grapes
4th July 2011, 12:45 PM
I'm in!

Blaaz
4th July 2011, 3:05 PM
latios is very easy to kill i could list all the things that one shot him right now
pursuit, ice shard, x-scissor, night slash, dragon claw, ice beam, dragon pulse, any strong attacks whatsoever have a high chance to do alot of damage to him also latios is frail and compared to everything else this gen hes no greater than hydreigon

Saikon
4th July 2011, 3:54 PM
latios is very easy to kill i could list all the things that one shot him right now
pursuit, ice shard, x-scissor, night slash, dragon claw, ice beam, dragon pulse, any strong attacks whatsoever have a high chance to do alot of damage to him also latios is frail and compared to everything else this gen hes no greater than hydreigon

I'll leave it up for debate for now, but when it comes down the the rankings I WILL go through everything and make fair adjustments to the rules.

My post still stands, please register on my forums to keep entries neat.

K1LL3RxP0P7aRt
4th July 2011, 5:01 PM
will everyone who sign up on here still be in the tourney?
and is it single or double battles?

Saikon
5th July 2011, 2:40 AM
will everyone who sign up on here still be in the tourney?
and is it single or double battles?

Yes, but it is preferred if you sign up and post on my forums to keep everything neat.

Also, it's MOSTLY singles, but if you an your opponent agree on Doubles, then that is fine too.

Jew Bagel
5th July 2011, 12:26 PM
I am sorry, but I can't register for that other forum, please let me be in the tourney.

Saikon
5th July 2011, 2:19 PM
I am sorry, but I can't register for that other forum, please let me be in the tourney.

That is fine, I only wish for you guys to register there to keep it neat and organized. You can still participate.

Utopian
5th July 2011, 5:01 PM
When does this start.

Saikon
5th July 2011, 7:45 PM
When does this start.

Registration ends on the 17th, then a two day hiatus to get the match-ups planned out and to review any rule changes.

Saikon
5th July 2011, 7:56 PM
Double Post Update.
FCs and Ban list updated for corrections.

Utopian
5th July 2011, 9:56 PM
k, cus i signed up a longg time ago.

Saikon
5th July 2011, 10:59 PM
k, cus i signed up a longg time ago.

Yes, and I need everyone's FC so that I can add them to the list so that once the tournament starts, everyone can check the OP for their opponent's code.

Dragin990
6th July 2011, 1:29 PM
You said the tourney's 2 days after the final registration on the 17th. I wont be able 2 participate then sry.

Utopian
6th July 2011, 3:15 PM
3138-5964-8446

abrar14
6th July 2011, 5:14 PM
my fc s in my sig

Scubasteve23
6th July 2011, 5:55 PM
I'd like to join the tournament! My FC is 0303-9093-4897

shadow130690
6th July 2011, 7:03 PM
I cant wait for this to start

Wailord_2
6th July 2011, 7:38 PM
My friend code is in my sig..

Saikon
7th July 2011, 2:23 AM
You said the tourney's 2 days after the final registration on the 17th. I wont be able 2 participate then sry.

Well, that's too bad then, thanks for trying though!

Updated lists.

pokemario24
7th July 2011, 5:04 AM
i'll join i guess. fc is 4770 8661 4340

pambihirang_nilalang
7th July 2011, 10:22 AM
hi!
please sign me up.
here's my FC: 5071 4831 2747

@MiGo
7th July 2011, 5:01 PM
ooh, ooh, me, me! Please sign me up for this tournament as well please! :) Sorry i could not post on your requested home forum. My Black version friend code is: 1850 0999 6079

Cometk
7th July 2011, 8:23 PM
Cometk -- Trevor -- 2623 2225 5730

TrollFreak
8th July 2011, 12:16 AM
kk, heres my FC 2022 0669 8066

and w/ jets and cometk in it, this tourney will be tough

Saikon
8th July 2011, 1:43 PM
Alright, updated FC lists. 37 people guys!

Quickie edit:
What do you guys think of having a sort of.. Exhibition match set for oh... The semi-finals? (Last two sets of battles) We'll choose a series of 5 pairs to do battle, and we'll mosh them all up into one video to show each pair's strengths in the tournament and give those people whom didn't make it to the finals/semis a chance to be known on Youtube? Of course, you guys would have to send me in your battle videos (preferably recorded via camera), and then I can do the narrations.

Lord Of Grapes
8th July 2011, 2:05 PM
Of course, you guys would have to send me in your battle videos (preferably recorded via camera), and then I can do the narrations.

Could we not just upload them to nintendo and tell you when we do it and what battle it is?

Saikon
8th July 2011, 2:30 PM
Could we not just upload them to nintendo and tell you when we do it and what battle it is?

Yes, that works too, thank you for the idea.

Saikon
8th July 2011, 4:43 PM
Alright, found the 37 participant. I think I'm going to close it up now.

Edit: I'm missing FCs from the following people:
smartgamer
pokemonguy97
Remorph

Please send me your FCs. We're at 37 right now due to a miscalculation, so I have to give someone a boot. I will post whom it will be.

Plusle.
8th July 2011, 10:35 PM
Fc=2279 6241 6617

shadow130690
11th July 2011, 1:35 AM
the tournment should be starting soon right

Joltik-Kid
11th July 2011, 5:37 AM
If it's not too late to join, my friend code is in my signature

Lord Of Grapes
11th July 2011, 8:55 AM
That means we have 38 right now so no-one gets the bye.

Saikon
12th July 2011, 12:34 AM
That means we have 38 right now so no-one gets the bye.

No, registration is closed. We need to give 1 person the boot sadly.
@Shadow: It starts on the 19th/20th

Polostick
12th July 2011, 1:29 AM
I'll take the boot, Wifi's down for me...

kimabfmv1
12th July 2011, 6:06 AM
wifi is unavaible for me till about a week after it starts so i guess im out

beshort123
13th July 2011, 5:46 AM
i wont be here for the tourney so i'm out

Saikon
13th July 2011, 4:00 PM
Wow, three drop-outs? Ouch.. Sucks, but I guess that's life, sorry guys. :(

Lord Of Grapes
13th July 2011, 4:31 PM
But we now have 34 people.

Nevlo
13th July 2011, 6:01 PM
Just to let u peeps know i can compete from 25th July till 2nd of August.
Hope i dont have to drop out...

Imma going on holiday to Spain soo there is the reason..

But hoping i dont have to leave..
Didnt meant to start the 16-17 July?

gregjammer
13th July 2011, 7:08 PM
Just to let u peeps know i can compete from 25th July till 2nd of August.
Hope i dont have to drop out...

Imma going on holiday to Spain soo there is the reason..

But hoping i dont have to leave..
Didnt meant to start the 16-17 July?

Did you see this? :


No, registration is closed. We need to give 1 person the boot sadly.
@Shadow: It starts on the 19th/20th

It would've started on the 17th if not for the compilation of match-ups(which takes two days to compile), but since I'm not him, I can only guess, but if that's what Saikon meant, since he created the tourney, unless he changes the date, which I doubt he will, that might leave me plenty of time to make the finishing touches to my team for this thing, yet I'm afraid that given your post, we could have 33 left, and with the "one person booted to be revealed later" statement that he said before the previous three "drop-out" posts that were created before you threatened to drop out, and from the time of his statement up to now, the issue he was confronted with that caused him to make that statement could have either forced him to drop one if those posts weren't created, then no more entrants if only the event of the creation of the first post actually occurred, then three more if only the event of the creation of the first two posts actually occurred, and then two more if the event of the creation of all three actual drop-out posts seen so far, excluding your threat to drop out, actually occurred, then finally, in the event you actually carry out your threat to "drop-out", assuming all three actual drop-out posts before your post occurred beforehand, back to one more drop again.

^ I don't like to encourage dropping out if I am not a tourney host, regardless of whether I still have a role in it or not, but given the situation, if I was him, I'd think about freeing up some spots if the spots to be freed have a legitimate excuse to do so(in which I think your scenario might be one involving such an excuse) in order to ensure that the number of tourney entrants is equal to an integer that results in two to the power of the number of possible rounds to be played. For example, if there are 5 rounds possible, assuming he maintains the number of entrants to such a number, we would need 32 entrants, as 2(the number of players participating in each match-up), to the 5th power(with 5 being the number of rounds possible), is equal to 32.

^However, I am not Saikon, so that means I cannot make the major decisions in regards to this thing, so I'll have to leave it to him to decide whether to take my advice or not, especially when it comes to making a difficult final decision in regards to how he responds to issues such as who to kick out of this tourney among other tourney-related issues...

shadow130690
13th July 2011, 7:23 PM
Saikon are you going to be in the tournment

gregjammer
13th July 2011, 7:26 PM
Saikon are you going to be in the tournment

Although I'm not him, given this list of participants, he is:


...

Players currently Registered: 34/64
Saikon Tategami - 0304 0026 5688
Firelord767 - 2150 8431 0010
Jerry - 3611 0676 9537
Celejammer - 0175 0590 8073
blaaz - 4641 9752 9709
Nevlo - 2923 8497 8791
Bobyjoe - 0303 9163 3260
Wailord_2 - 3954 6334 2098
Ravern - 2236 7827 3649
Arash - 2451 4137 8273
abrar - 1592 5151 9825
Scubasteve23 - 0303 9093 4897
Insomnimaniac - 4813 8077 9726
Cerebral Bugs - 3267 6199 9632
Snivy18 - 4470 0265 6386
Killer - 1377 6750 6855
Snowmankid - 4942 5681 8030
Shadow - 1463 6969 8124
Trainer - 2623 3386 9276
Max - 2279 6114 7943
Asbel - 4427 2992 4433
pokemario24 - 4770 8661 4340
pambi - 5071 4831 2747
@migo - 1850 0999 6079
Cometk - 2623 2225 5730
DragonMaster123 - 2022 0669 8066
Lord of Grapes - 3911 7733 1226
Darkness Master - 1850 0993 1036
Pokeonrocks2012 - 3138 5872 1129
Jets - 3138 5964 8446
mredozook - 2279 6241 6617

^ Did that answer your question?

metalord
13th July 2011, 9:29 PM
Is sign ups over

gregjammer
13th July 2011, 9:44 PM
Is sign ups over

This portion of the tourney's first post will answer your question:


... Registration is now closed, the tournament will begin on the 19th of July. ...

^ And so, the answer to your question(or at least until Saikon, the founder of this tourney, decides to undo his act of registration closure, an act that I doubt that he will actually execute) is yes, sign-ups are over, sadly for you...

metalord
13th July 2011, 10:06 PM
Hmm... I didnt see that thx anyway

Saikon
14th July 2011, 6:56 PM
Thanks CeleJammer for taking over the responses for me while I was gone. He pretty much answered all the questions, and I just finished running some calcs for the tournament, and someone/some people will need to be given a push for 4 rounds.
34 People > 17 people (push) > 9 People (Push) > 5 People (Push) > 3 People (Push) > 2 People > Winner.
So that means that someone will have to get lucky enough to get a few by-passes through those rounds. Not a problem since it makes it an easier relay for prizes. The only thing is, is that the person who lost in the semi-finals will have to take on the loser of the finals for Second Place (Assuming the person who won the Semis becomes the champion) to keep things fair.

K1LL3RxP0P7aRt
14th July 2011, 7:30 PM
or you could just give th boot to two more peeeps :P

Nevlo
15th July 2011, 9:43 AM
Thanks CeleJammer for taking over the responses for me while I was gone. He pretty much answered all the questions, and I just finished running some calcs for the tournament, and someone/some people will need to be given a push for 4 rounds.
34 People > 17 people (push) > 9 People (Push) > 5 People (Push) > 3 People (Push) > 2 People > Winner.
So that means that someone will have to get lucky enough to get a few by-passes through those rounds. Not a problem since it makes it an easier relay for prizes. The only thing is, is that the person who lost in the semi-finals will have to take on the loser of the finals for Second Place (Assuming the person who won the Semis becomes the champion) to keep things fair.

LEt the final 3 battle to eachother a certain amout of times, and the one with most wins win..





ANd saikon what do u say about mine post?
About the i'm going on holiday?
I really want to participate...

Lord Of Grapes
15th July 2011, 5:55 PM
LEt the final 3 battle to eachother a certain amout of times, and the one with most wins win...

I agree with Nevlo, if we're gonna have 3 people in the semis, then they should have a Round Robin tourney for 1st place.

Saikon
16th July 2011, 12:44 AM
All great suggestions.

As for your vacation Nevlo, we'll see how far you get in the tournament/how fast it progresses.

shadow130690
16th July 2011, 4:54 AM
i like the round robin idea

Nevlo
16th July 2011, 9:26 AM
All great suggestions.

As for your vacation Nevlo, we'll see how far you get in the tournament/how fast it progresses.

Oi,
thanks mate but that won't mean i'm not going to battle without mine ful strength. looking forward to win some battles.

Saikon
16th July 2011, 7:03 PM
Oi,
thanks mate but that won't mean i'm not going to battle without mine ful strength. looking forward to win some battles.

Haha, good to hear, sport! Playing at your best is the only way to feel that you accomplished something in the tournament, win or lose.

Scubasteve23
17th July 2011, 1:21 AM
I don't know about all of you guys but I'm excited for this thing!

Blaaz
17th July 2011, 1:44 AM
yeah gonna be fun
i wanna dominate for once

pokeon
17th July 2011, 3:55 AM
is it 2 late to join?

pokemario24
17th July 2011, 8:26 AM
Are the rules the flat rules?

gregjammer
17th July 2011, 10:00 AM
Speaking of ban lists, there is one pokemon that I'm not sure about, since it has 4 different formes, and judging from your list, I'm confused on that...

Is Deoxys-S banned like Deoxys-A and Deoxys-R(with the R meaning regular) are known to be?

I spent all day today looking for one just in case it is not, but I won't use it until I have proof that it is allowed. Please respond to my question so that the message is clear.. I am off to bed now...

Blaaz
17th July 2011, 11:28 PM
deoxys-s and d are ou and uu respectively

gregjammer
18th July 2011, 3:16 AM
Saikon and all other possible opponents:

I accidentally pressed the wrong button on the wrong screen and DS, and my current fc is deleted. After dinner, I'll post my resulting new one...

Sorry...

edit: My new fc: 3353-5813-3766

Saikon
18th July 2011, 6:31 PM
Okay, okay, calm down everyone.
The tournament is Singles, No Restrictions (100s).
I will update the FC list.
Sand Rush/Sand Stream is now banned.
Tournament listings will be posted either tonight or tomorrow.

Cometk
18th July 2011, 8:39 PM
Sand Rush/Sand Stream is now banned.

Don't wanna be poking the beast, but why?

Something like Stoutland is nowhere near broken and Excadrill has at least a half dozen counters in OU. Sand Rush + Sand Stream is not like Drizzle + Swift Swim. Swift Swim users generally have excellent type coverage between attacking moves and another boost to their already STAB Water moves.

Nevlo
18th July 2011, 8:41 PM
crap! so i can't use sand stream- sand rush combo? euh is sand veil-sand steam still allowed?


btw can't wait to stomp some teams into the abyss eh eh eh

Pokemonrocks2012
18th July 2011, 9:29 PM
crap! so i can't use sand stream- sand rush combo? euh is sand veil-sand steam still allowed?


btw can't wait to stomp some teams into the abyss eh eh eh

ok here is what he is saying you can't use any Sand ____ abilities EXECPT for Sand force

gregjammer
18th July 2011, 9:53 PM
ok here is what he is saying you can't use any Sand ____ abilities EXECPT for Sand force

Wrong.

He is saying you can use either sand stream or sand rush, but not both of them on same team...

Of course that does not mean sand force + sand stream is banned... just that you can't have both sand stream and sand rush on your team of six...

@MiGo
18th July 2011, 11:13 PM
Hehe im excited for this! :) oh i have a question, is having more than one opponent affected by an attract status condition ok, or not ok? I know i didnt see it on the rules , but i just want to make sure.....

Pokemonrocks2012
19th July 2011, 5:02 AM
Wrong.

He is saying you can use either sand stream or sand rush, but not both of them on same team...

Of course that does not mean sand force + sand stream is banned... just that you can't have both sand stream and sand rush on your team of six...

that what i ment you can't have that combo

gregjammer
19th July 2011, 5:21 AM
that what i ment you can't have that combo

Yet that space in the middle of that statement makes your statement on that issue not 100% clear. If your statement is 100% true, then that means both of the abilities in question would be banned, regardless of whether or not the other end of the combo is absent on a team of six. However, since you can use either, but not both, your interpretation of that banned combo is misleading a little bit, meaning your point is partially true on the grounds that you can't utilize sand teams to their full potential, but since sand stream and sand force are not banned(as long as one or the other, but not both, is present in your team of six) as individual abilities, your point is not 100% true...

edit: If I made an unnecessary post, and you got to the point first, I deeply apologize. If I made you mad, I'll be happy to delete my post, or the mods may delete it, whatever comes first, and I'll accept any consequences that may occur by my misinterpretation...

K1LL3RxP0P7aRt
19th July 2011, 5:41 AM
hey is there anyway we can make the battles Flat battles? because i just noticed you posted that and im redoing my Singles team and there's no way im going to have all 6 of them at Lv. 100 by tomorrow thx

Saikon
19th July 2011, 1:42 PM
If you and your opponent agree of Flat, that is acceptable.
Sand Rush/Sand Stream is banned because if you look at the major threat, Excadrill, you'll see that it becomes a lot like Garchomp and a few other Drizzle/Swift Swim Abusers, PLUS the Spec. Defense boost.

Lord Of Grapes
19th July 2011, 2:04 PM
Sand Rush/Sand Stream is banned because if you look at the major threat, Excadrill, you'll see that it becomes a lot like Garchomp and a few other Drizzle/Swift Swim Abusers, PLUS the Spec. Defense boost.

As far as I can see Excadrill is not a rock type and only rock types get the boost.

And I agree with Cometk, Ex has over half a dozen counters on OU.

Saikon
19th July 2011, 2:21 PM
Ah, I thought anything that benefits from Sandstorm got the boost. Well, still, a ban is a ban.

UPDATE: Tournament officially begins NOW. The listings/rosters are in the Original Post (OP) at the bottom. I will update it once everyone has finished their match AND had sent me the replay for Confirmation.

@MiGo
19th July 2011, 2:50 PM
Umm.....saikon? Not to be annoying or anything, but i cant seem to find my opponent who's name is "max". I looked through the entire forum and your home forums too, but i cant find anyone with that name....

Saikon
19th July 2011, 3:07 PM
Someone either PMed me, or had in their Signature their name registered as "Max". I don't know if I'll be able to dig it up, I'll try.

Nope, couldn't find them. Might've been someone on Youtube as well. I'll go update there as well with the links to the forums.
Just try and see if you can find them. I'll most likely be getting a lot of messages between now and then, lol. If they don't show up, I'll give you a pass to the next round by forfeit.

@MiGo
19th July 2011, 3:34 PM
Alrighty. Thx

pambihirang_nilalang
19th July 2011, 5:15 PM
@Snowmankid
i'll be online for the next 2hrs after this post
vm me for the battle
gud luck to both of us

Saikon
19th July 2011, 6:12 PM
I, myself am available at any time, unless I'm outside or asleep.

Nevlo
19th July 2011, 7:51 PM
Okay i've pm'd and vm'd ravern hope that he replies since last of his actions were 4of july . . good luck to everybody and happy batteling!

Scubasteve23
19th July 2011, 8:03 PM
How long do people have to battle? Like, say I messaged my person telling him I'm ready to battle. How long does he have the accept the challenge before it's forfeited?

Cometk
19th July 2011, 8:37 PM
opp contacted me this morning, almost done with my team and'll pm him back later

K1LL3RxP0P7aRt
19th July 2011, 9:06 PM
hey i finished the first match and the guy left and has'nt tried to join so......

K1LL3RxP0P7aRt
19th July 2011, 9:10 PM
its best 2 of 3

pokemario24
19th July 2011, 9:11 PM
sry bad memories.

Asbel
19th July 2011, 9:15 PM
So just to make sure it's ok to use Garchomp right?

K1LL3RxP0P7aRt
19th July 2011, 9:45 PM
just beat pokemario came back the last two matches GG

Scubasteve23
19th July 2011, 11:05 PM
In the tiebreaker battle against bobyjoe I was up 3-1 and the internet disconnected. I think he purposely did it. Plus he used Blaziken (Which according to your list is an uber and therefore banned pokemon). So in my opinion, I won against him.

Angeltripper
19th July 2011, 11:10 PM
i didnt disconnect, and i didnt know the rules. and it was 3-2 for me you bi@ch. why dont we do 2v2 excadrill and charizard vs arcanine and ninetales to deicde it?

Scubasteve23
19th July 2011, 11:11 PM
Why would I do that when your Ninetails was almost done for and I also had my Gengar?

gregjammer
19th July 2011, 11:22 PM
Finishing level 100 training for my team while waiting for snivy18 to finish up his team as well, in case he hasn't already...

Saikon:

I am giving my opposition a one-to-two-day semi-grace period in which he can use to finish his team if it's not done already. If he goes past that period without contacting me regarding his status and when he is open, I'll tell you again, this time by pm, and if it has to come to that, advice on what could be done next would be appreciated, whether it's warning pms, or tourney-related action. I'm hoping we can get it done either tonight, whether shortly before supper or after supper, or tomorrow morning, or on the first opening in his schedule after either the time I'm finished training, or the aforementioned semi-grace period, with that time of battle commencement being within the time range given on his contact message, whenever that message comes, whatever occurs first...

Just wanting everyone to know my status...

Angeltripper
19th July 2011, 11:27 PM
lets see. my team was:

ninetales
infernape x
blaziken (which i didnt use at all)
arcanine
salamence x
electivire x

the ones with x's you took out. ninetales survived surf with more then half helath because it was sunny. electivire got pwnd by kingdra
salamence lost to alakasam. arcanine only had a bit of hp lost.

you team was:

kingdra x
hitmontop x
charizard
excadrill
alakasam x
and i guess he did has gengar

kingdra lost to solar beam from ninetales, alakasam to flare blitz from arcanine, hitmontop from salamence's dragon claw. if you arent to scared, why dont we do 2vs3 gengar, excadrill, and charizard vs arcanine and ninetales.....unless your afriad

Scubasteve23
19th July 2011, 11:38 PM
Because I shouldn't have to. I was in the lead when you (I mean..."magic") disconnected the game. So therefore; I won the battle. I'm done with this argument.

Angeltripper
19th July 2011, 11:40 PM
either we battle again oooooooooooooooooooor we let saikon decide

Saikon
19th July 2011, 11:58 PM
There was a disconnect?
If possible, remake your teams and have another go at it, either that or replay the match move for move and go from there.

As for the waiting clause, I'd give them.. 3 or 4 days, tops before auto-forfeit.
For those who have already finished their matches, please have a video file ready, or upload your replay to the Wifi server and PM me the code for confirmation, please.

Saikon
20th July 2011, 12:00 AM
So just to make sure it's ok to use Garchomp right?

Garchomp IS allowed.

Saikon
20th July 2011, 12:01 AM
Finishing level 100 training for my team while waiting for snivy18 to finish up his team as well, in case he hasn't already...

Saikon:

I am giving my opposition a one-to-two-day semi-grace period in which he can use to finish his team if it's not done already. If he goes past that period without contacting me regarding his status and when he is open, I'll tell you again, this time by pm, and if it has to come to that, advice on what could be done next would be appreciated, whether it's warning pms, or tourney-related action. I'm hoping we can get it done either tonight, whether shortly before supper or after supper, or tomorrow morning, or on the first opening in his schedule after either the time I'm finished training, or the aforementioned semi-grace period, with that time of battle commencement being within the time range given on his contact message, whenever that message comes, whatever occurs first...

Just wanting everyone to know my status...

That is acceptable.

K1LL3RxP0P7aRt
20th July 2011, 12:05 AM
@Saikon I only Have the Last battle saved :P

Saikon
20th July 2011, 12:06 AM
@Saikon I only Have the Last battle saved :P

Did I say it was Bo3? Hmm, don't remember it, but send it in anyhow.

Edit: Scratch that, yeah, First round is Bo3.

@MiGo
20th July 2011, 12:08 AM
Ok, so just making sure; if the max guy doesnt show up i pass to the next round? I couldnt find him on youtube either....

Angeltripper
20th July 2011, 12:09 AM
oh and saikon, im gettin g someone to see if wild charge adament scarfed arcanine can beat a charizrd in 1 hit. if it cant then earthquake was still weakened by arcanine's ability

what he said:

now here are the calculations
76.46%-93.6% Arcanine Vs. Charizard
65.73%-77.57% Charizard Vs. Arcanine (Timid)
79.75%-94.7% " " (Adamant)

Either way your Arcanine would've killed it.

Saikon
20th July 2011, 12:14 AM
Ok, so just making sure; if the max guy doesnt show up i pass to the next round? I couldnt find him on youtube either....

Yes, if they do not show up, they auto-forfeit.

As for bobyjoe, Damage calcs probably shouldn't be used unless you're debating on whether a Crit mattered or not.

Angeltripper
20th July 2011, 12:16 AM
yes, but then he told me that since arcanine has intimadate, it would do 55% damage max

Saikon
20th July 2011, 12:17 AM
yes, but then he told me that since arcanine has intimadate, it would do 55% damage max

Aye, that is possible DEPENDING on the EVs you give it, how many points your opponent has in said stat, STAB and what not.

Angeltripper
20th July 2011, 12:30 AM
charizard doesnt get stab from EQ, arcanine doesnt from WC, WC does 94% damage max. with a bit of recoil, charizard still couldnt win. but i dont even know what nature his lizard was. but 55% is the maximum, regardless.

K1LL3RxP0P7aRt
20th July 2011, 12:34 AM
K1ll3rxp0p7art Vs Pokemario
Video No. 52-66456-10637
My youtube Username is: ElementxEnigma

Saikon
20th July 2011, 12:40 AM
K1ll3rxp0p7art Vs Pokemario
Video No. 52-66456-10637
My youtube Username is: ElementxEnigma

Time of post: Looking over battle.

Edit: Confirmed. You have a go for Round 2.

Angeltripper
20th July 2011, 12:48 AM
saikon, we are haing a rematch on PO cause wifi is hard to connect on. is that ok?

Scubasteve23
20th July 2011, 1:04 AM
I ended up winning in the rematch 1-0. It was a great game and sorry for all the arguing.

Angeltripper
20th July 2011, 1:17 AM
yeaah, he just beat my blissey at the end. if i had just survived brick break, i woulda won

Scubasteve23
20th July 2011, 1:21 AM
yeaah, he just beat my blissey at the end. if i had just survived brick break, i woulda won

Depends. Bullet Punch always goes first plus is boosted up with Technician and STAB.

gregjammer
20th July 2011, 3:21 AM
beat snivy18, although it took time and 1 loss to figure out the wi-fi systems in how many terms...

2 games to one.. GG, snivy18...

Snivy18
20th July 2011, 3:23 AM
nice job gregjammer!

pambihirang_nilalang
20th July 2011, 4:18 AM
still looking for Snowmankid....
(2nd day)

Nevlo
20th July 2011, 7:28 AM
No word from Ravern..(2nd day)


Come Ravern i dont wanna win like this!!!!
PM me or vm me, and lets have a show down.

Jew Bagel
20th July 2011, 12:32 PM
Nothing from Lord Of Grapes, (2 day). One more and I move on automatically.

Lord Of Grapes
20th July 2011, 2:14 PM
Nothing from Lord Of Grapes, (2 day). One more and I move on automatically.

Do not worry I'm online.

Saikon
20th July 2011, 2:31 PM
Okay, I'd wish I could have a replay from you guys, but PO is fine. As for the rest of you, good job for making it this far, just confirmed Greg/Celejammer for this match.

Confirmed for R2: Celejammer, Killer, Steve.

TrollFreak
20th July 2011, 3:53 PM
lost to saikon 2-0 gg

@MiGo
20th July 2011, 4:34 PM
Crud...that means if i pass to round 2 i have to fight Saikon o.o

....Now im kinda scared e.O

Saikon
20th July 2011, 7:24 PM
Yeah, haha.. XD

trainer7715
20th July 2011, 8:52 PM
horrible defeat. lost to jerry 2-0

1st Vid: 74-88678-32667
2nd Vid: 58-317929-70412

K1LL3RxP0P7aRt
20th July 2011, 8:59 PM
hey Saikon is it ok if in the second round I Vs. this "Jerry" guy? thx

Saikon
20th July 2011, 10:28 PM
The tournament Line-ups will decide who goes against who.

Trainer, do you have a replay of the final match?

Scubasteve23
20th July 2011, 11:47 PM
What do you need all the replays for?

Blaaz
20th July 2011, 11:49 PM
can never get in touch with my opponent

Saikon
21st July 2011, 12:43 AM
@Steve: I need the replays for confirmation of victory, plus for a montage to upload to YouTube after the Semi-Finals/finals.
@blaaz: If you can't get in touch with your opponent by the end of tomorrow, PM me and I'll give you a win by forfeit. Another player (Jerry) has just dropped out, so his opponent gets the by next round.

Scubasteve23
21st July 2011, 12:51 AM
Well since my last battle was PO, it wasn't saved. However; I did save the second battle (The one that I won)

Saikon
21st July 2011, 1:11 AM
Good, send it in, please.

Saikon
21st July 2011, 2:41 AM
hey Saikon is it ok if in the second round I Vs. this "Jerry" guy? thx

Double post, I know, but I really don't care at this point.

Killer, your request could not be put through due to two reasons:
1) The tournament line-ups would go all wonky.
2) Jerry forfeited his second round match, so his opponent gets a freebie into the third.

Scubasteve23
21st July 2011, 4:18 AM
How do I send it to you?

Saikon
21st July 2011, 4:55 AM
If you can upload it to YouTube (private video) and PM me the link, then I can download it from there, or upload it to Wifi and send me the code for it like the others have.

Scubasteve23
21st July 2011, 4:57 AM
Alright, I can do it tomorrow. Sorry, I'm not at home tonight.

Nevlo
21st July 2011, 8:48 AM
Ravern vm'd me his forfeit cause he's busy. who is mine opponent now?

Saikon
21st July 2011, 12:34 PM
You'll have to wait until the next uodate (Next Tuesday) for your opponent match-ups, that way others get a chance to battle.

pambihirang_nilalang
21st July 2011, 2:13 PM
still looking for Snowmankid....
(3rd day)

Saikon
21st July 2011, 5:00 PM
In the rare case that it is, I'm giving Max and @migo one more day. Max has contacted me and is trying to a hold of @migo.

Pambi, if they do not respond by day's end, then I will give you the auto-by.

@MiGo
21st July 2011, 5:52 PM
Hey saikon, Max contacted me so ill try n battle him soon alrighty?

Saikon
21st July 2011, 6:09 PM
Acceptable. He informed me of this too.

pambihirang_nilalang
22nd July 2011, 1:38 AM
thanks Saikon :)

but i dont like advancing out of nothing...

i guess i have no choice....

Snowmankid, pls be online. i dont get the point joining then forfeiting :)

Blaaz
22nd July 2011, 4:11 PM
still none of my opponent yet :/

Angeltripper
22nd July 2011, 5:00 PM
i see we must send battle videos. i comfirm i did lose the second and 3rd, and i saved battle 1 (the one i won)

@MiGo
22nd July 2011, 5:03 PM
Heya Saikon, I beat max 2-0. I only recorded the last battle though.
Battle video number is: 80-72624-50671

Saikon
22nd July 2011, 7:49 PM
You are confirmed for round 2.

Lord Of Grapes
22nd July 2011, 9:17 PM
Darkness Master has PM'd me his resignation as he is leaving somewhere in the morning.

I never wanted to go through this way...

@MiGo
22nd July 2011, 9:32 PM
You are confirmed for round 2.
Yay X]
Get ready Saikon, im energized now lol
Cant wait for round 2. I thought i wouldnt last past round 1 lol

Scubasteve23
22nd July 2011, 10:22 PM
i see we must send battle videos. i comfirm i did lose the second and 3rd, and i saved battle 1 (the one i won)

And I saved battle 2 (The one I won)

Saikon
23rd July 2011, 12:33 AM
The sucks Grapes. I know what it's like to get the "by".

You guys better be amped, because R2 will be updated by Tuesday, Wednesday latest so that the other members get a chance to battle.

Jew Bagel
23rd July 2011, 2:31 AM
Hey, i am sorry about forfeiting, but i am going to be in colorado for a week, from saturday to saturday, so i had no choice.

Nevlo
23rd July 2011, 10:48 AM
The sucks Grapes. I know what it's like to get the "by".

You guys better be amped, because R2 will be updated by Tuesday, Wednesday latest so that the other members get a chance to battle.

I'll be going to Spain Next Monday, soo wont be able to do the next battle..
[Didnt had a battle at all in this tournement cause of ravern forfeiting]

Soo whomever is mine next opponent..

U have already won.. :S
Unless i can complete mine battle(R2) August 2nd then i'm back.

Utopian
23rd July 2011, 4:27 PM
give my opponent the win, im going on vacation 2morrow and wont be back until 8/2. so yea, gg lulz

Saikon
23rd July 2011, 6:49 PM
IF you need an extension, that is okay. I'm patient. don't feel discouraged by vacations, everyone needs them!

Utopian
23rd July 2011, 8:05 PM
oh, im getting back august 2nd, if my opponent can wait it out then okay.

Jew Bagel
23rd July 2011, 8:35 PM
IF you need an extension, that is okay. I'm patient. don't feel discouraged by vacations, everyone needs them!

Then can I get an extension please I will be back on the thirtieth. Please.

Nevlo
23rd July 2011, 8:59 PM
That would be awesome! Im bck august 2nd could play again that day but probally be the day after cause im home late that day



again awesom saikon ty for the extension. Bye bye now cya'll next week then.

shadow130690
24th July 2011, 1:58 AM
Dang i aint even get connect by my oppent. abarar where are you

Soulrever
24th July 2011, 2:32 AM
can i sign up?
black FC: 3009-9837-9804
name's Rever
it will be cool if i could enter. pm me?

@MiGo
24th July 2011, 2:46 AM
can i sign up?
black FC: 3009-9837-9804
name's Rever
it will be cool if i could enter. pm me?

Umm dude....sign were over a while ago. The tournament has already started.

Saikon
24th July 2011, 7:37 PM
Yes, Extensions are acceptable. Also, to anyone who's still watching this, I encourage you to just battle amongst one another just for practice and for kicks, have some fun!

Cometk
24th July 2011, 7:55 PM
i'm not gonna be able to get my wifi to connect for the next two or three weeks, give the win to asbel

@MiGo
25th July 2011, 10:50 PM
So does round 2 start tommorow, or wednsday?

Saikon
26th July 2011, 1:57 PM
Round of 16 starts after I update the rosters. I just need to go through the list of whom has/hasn't battled. I'm pretty sure a lot of people get dropped, sadly.

Jew Bagel
26th July 2011, 1:59 PM
Hey, Saikion, if it's alright with L.O.G., can I do my battle over PO, becasue I have access to it right now.

Saikon
26th July 2011, 3:04 PM
Uh, PO? sure.

Blaaz
26th July 2011, 10:53 PM
My opponent never showed
What do i do

Utopian
26th July 2011, 11:10 PM
My opponent never showed
What do i do

you do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around.

Scubasteve23
27th July 2011, 2:17 AM
You lose to me in the second round ^_^

shadow130690
27th July 2011, 2:18 AM
same with me

Blaaz
27th July 2011, 3:17 AM
you do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around.

i wish i could v.v
did that last week

@MiGo
27th July 2011, 10:10 PM
Saikon:
If round two has started just Vm me when your ready to battle.

Pokemonrocks2012
28th July 2011, 4:23 AM
active post i guess

K1LL3RxP0P7aRt
28th July 2011, 4:28 AM
so when are we gunna see the updated roster?

Utopian
28th July 2011, 6:55 PM
am i still in this? o.O

Plusle.
28th July 2011, 9:11 PM
I thought you were on holiday

Utopian
29th July 2011, 3:21 PM
I thought you were on holiday

yea i am, but saikon or w/e his name is said if you could wait then we can battle...

K1LL3RxP0P7aRt
29th July 2011, 11:06 PM
any one know if saikons still alive?

Saikon
29th July 2011, 11:17 PM
I'm sory I neglected this, I didn't forget, I've had some stuff piled up that I had to take care of. Rest assured Round 2 is under way. I will post the standings once I look over who has and has not battled.

Pokemonrocks2012
30th July 2011, 3:46 AM
ok so my opponent drop according to this vm

"sorry i havent played in a long time im just gonna drop out"

Nevlo
2nd August 2011, 12:29 PM
hello, saikon i'm back from spain soo ready to fight :)

K1LL3RxP0P7aRt
2nd August 2011, 6:52 PM
I think Saikon died :P

pambihirang_nilalang
2nd August 2011, 7:20 PM
maybe he's busy w/ personal life

we'll be hearing from Saikon soon

shadow130690
3rd August 2011, 12:53 AM
I hope this thing aint died

trainer7715
3rd August 2011, 9:25 PM
Hey since were wating for this tourney to start :P one of my friends is hosting one if you would like to join. It has'nt started yet and wont untill we have 16 people so if you would like to join my friends tourney go to this Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agpC04KR_B0) and sign up or msg TheMarzKing.

gregjammer
4th August 2011, 9:45 PM
saikon just informed me that he dropped out. However, his tourney should live on, because the R1 brackets' matchups can be traced to determine second-round and future matchups, so the prizes still are up for grabs.

I apologize if I am taking over, Saikon, I don't mean to do so. However, after I saw your youtube pm, I did extensive analysis that I hope will clear up some no-shows by analyzing activity and forfeits, for those unresolved battles, to determine who goes on to R2 despite failure to finish R1 battles. Is it ok with you? Or am I doing the wrong thing for filling in for you in terms of the tourney head business???

If you wish, Saikon, please update your forum version's first post accordingly to this post's details, just to ensure that your role in leadership is not totally taken... Also, please stick around, if only for the role of watcher, while waiting for the winners to be revealed so that the prizes can be distributed...

Assuming r1 brackets connect to r2 matchups, that would mean saikon's would-be opponent, @MiGo, gets a free pass to the top 8.

Check the bottom of this post for the R2 matchups. PM me or Saikon if you have a conflict.

Confirmed for round 2(excluding byes to R3): Myself(greg/celejammer), Killer, Steve, Nevlo, blazz(opp. forfeit), Wailord_2(activity), PKMNRocks2012(opp. forfeit), Pambi, smartgamer(activity), Asbel, shadow130690, Mredozook(opp. forfeit)

R2 Matchups:
Key: Bold =Matchup Winner, Bold Italic = Matchup Winner and two(if third game is dropped), or three-game sweeper, Bold Underline = Matchup winner by opp. dropout

ScubaSteve vs. blaaz
Wailord_2 vs. PKMNRocks2012
Mredozook vs. shadow130690
Asbel vs. Killer
SmartGamer vs. Nevlo
Pambi vs. greg/Celejammer(opp. forfeited third game after two-game sweep)
Lord of Grapes(attempted to play third game before it was officially considered game 3, but due to comm errors, and no deliberate d/c faults on either side, after agreement between both sides, it was declared a draw, and thus had to be postponed until if and when actually meant something, and when the third game is revealed to mean something more than just for pride, the game could be restarted, but whether or not that happens depends on whether or not one side failed to win both games. Since LOG won both of the games that are not postponed, since they at least tried to play the third match the postponed match will not be played in this case. Good job for at least trying to play a "third game", LOG and Trainer!) vs. Trainer(sub for dropout Jerry)

Bye to R3: @Migo

Rules: Same as R1

^ Deadline: Night of Thursday, August 11th, morning of Friday, August 12th, at Midnight GST(Greenwich Summer Time, equivalent to GMT+1)...

The above has been determined to be ok with Saikon, and so round 2 has started. Get your Bo3 battles done by the above deadline!

@MiGo
4th August 2011, 9:58 PM
Aww man.......:( I didnt want to pass a round like this.
But what can ya do? *Sigh*
Well good luck to everybody in round 2 i guess :)

Lord Of Grapes
4th August 2011, 10:26 PM
Aww man.......:( I didnt want to pass a round like this.
But what can ya do? *Sigh*
Well good luck to everybody in round 2 i guess :)

Same here.

Pokemonrocks2012
4th August 2011, 10:40 PM
ok i just vm wailord_2 hope to get this done

pambihirang_nilalang
5th August 2011, 10:28 AM
will this push thru gregjammer?
since you are my opponent @ R2

Pokemonrocks2012
6th August 2011, 6:16 AM
active post no response from wailord_2

Nevlo
6th August 2011, 10:45 AM
Smartgamer gave his forfeit in vm, you can check.
Really hope i can battle in r3..

Pokemonrocks2012
7th August 2011, 12:45 AM
ACTIVE Post : wailord has not been on in 4 days

Utopian
7th August 2011, 1:09 AM
i guess im not in this anymore.

gregjammer
7th August 2011, 1:13 AM
Everyone in R2:

Trainer requested to join the tourney in Jerry's stead, since Jerry dropped. And with his request accepted, that means no second R3 bye.

Also, the Darkness v. LOG result has been determined, although Saikon had to mediate the ending. I hope no more controversy like that occurs in the beginning of next round, so that I don't have to hand down judgements that might make one side angry in any way, shape or form, just to decide any battle... Lord of Grapes, Saikon said you're a go for R2. You are to face trainer in R2.

However, that took some extra time. In order to ensure everyone has adequate time to finish matches, R2 is extended by two days, the amount of time it took to resolve the confusion on R1's last unresolved battle. Now you have until Friday morning to get results in, rather than Wednesday morning as before... Get your battles done!

K1LL3RxP0P7aRt
7th August 2011, 5:07 AM
hey I cant find this asbel guy :P

gregjammer
7th August 2011, 7:53 PM
swept pambi by winning the first two games of three...

Because of the sweep, game 3 is not necessary, but later this week, before round 3 begins, I'll make sure to contact pambi to get game 3 out of the way, per "all three must be played" rules, for a practice run of sorts...

For now, I'll enjoy this, and pambi, I'll make sure to contact you for game 3, although the outcome is determined already, later this week...

edit: oh, and here is the proof:

Bv1: 87-57355-38889
Bv2: 25-08496-43242

@MiGo
8th August 2011, 2:25 AM
Wait, even if you won 2 rounds you still need to play the 3rd one?
......oh....um well i didnt play the 3rd round against Max cux i beat him the 1st round, the internet disconnected twice the second round, and i beat him on the 3rd battle of the 2nd round. We didnt play the 3rd round cuz the win was already determined......

Pokemonrocks2012
8th August 2011, 4:11 AM
do we have an updated bracket yet like what is on op

shadow130690
8th August 2011, 4:25 AM
wait how im out the torunment in abrar still in when i try to contact him multiple times to battle

gregjammer
8th August 2011, 6:13 PM
wait how im out the torunment in abrar still in when i try to contact him multiple times to battle

Answer: don't mean to be rude, but that decision was based on your being online at times less in sync with abrar's online time and schedule combined with yours, as well as the act of not recognizing that in time. Because of that, judgement in your match was based on last activity, and you were less active than abrar at time of matchup determination... Ah, if you are online in late morning to early to mid afternoon, before sleeping while your foe eats breakfast, and/or undergoes his/her dose of daily work activities, shortly before your foe's first online activity of his or her day where you live, then failure to adjust schedule in time, even if that failure also means failure to battle either on a weekend(when you could go late night if you dare wish) or similar, more in-sync times, when the worry about one side's open schedule not overlapping with the other's as a result of higher priorities that either side must do to survive isn't likely there, now that explains it. Next time, remember to ask for your opposition's time zone when your online time vastly differs from your foe's, and act accordingly. If you have any protests about my reason, tell me now, and I'll take it to you-know-who that started this thing, and stated the "all three must be played rule"(check first page's first post for specifics), like it or not. Speaking of that rule, it's good to practice, even if and when one thinks it's unnecessary...

Jets:

Thank you for telling me that "you're not in it anymore"...

Now Mredozook is in your place.

Thank you for dropping, Jets...

K1LL3RxP0P7aRt
8th August 2011, 7:56 PM
hey can someone please tell me ere I can find this "Asbel" guy!

gregjammer
8th August 2011, 8:09 PM
hey can someone please tell me ere I can find this "Asbel" guy!

here is asbel (http://www.serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=274296)...

shadow130690
9th August 2011, 4:58 AM
Answer: don't mean to be rude, but that decision was based on your being online at times less in sync with abrar's online time and schedule combined with yours, as well as the act of not recognizing that in time. Because of that, judgement in your match was based on last activity, and you were less active than abrar at time of matchup determination... Ah, if you are online in late morning to early to mid afternoon, before sleeping while your foe eats breakfast, and/or undergoes his/her dose of daily work activities, shortly before your foe's first online activity of his or her day where you live, then failure to adjust schedule in time, even if that failure also means failure to battle either on a weekend(when you could go late night if you dare wish) or similar, more in-sync times, when the worry about one side's open schedule not overlapping with the other's as a result of higher priorities that either side must do to survive isn't likely there, now that explains it. Next time, remember to ask for your opposition's time zone when your online time vastly differs from your foe's, and act accordingly. If you have any protests about my reason, tell me now, and I'll take it to you-know-who that started this thing, and stated the "all three must be played rule"(check first page's first post for specifics), like it or not. Speaking of that rule, it's good to practice, even if and when one thinks it's unnecessary...

Jets:

Thank you for telling me that "you're not in it anymore"...

Now Mredozook is in your place.

Thank you for dropping, Jets...

Let take it to you know who. And like i said i contact him many times to battle when he was on. and I even post in here multiply times that he would not battle. The same should go for him with the adjusting of time if i ask him for battle right.not to be rude or anything but maybe you should read all the pages before you try to take something over.

Jew Bagel
9th August 2011, 1:10 PM
I don't get, who is my opponent in the second round anyways?

gregjammer
9th August 2011, 3:56 PM
Let take it to you know who. And like i said i contact him many times to battle when he was on. and I even post in here multiply times that he would not battle. The same should go for him with the adjusting of time if i ask him for battle right.not to be rude or anything but maybe you should read all the pages before you try to take something over.

Thank you for your say.

Now sending it to saikon...

Pokemonrocks2012
9th August 2011, 7:18 PM
active post my opponent has not been on in 3 days and he has not responded

gregjammer
10th August 2011, 1:43 AM
I don't get, who is my opponent in the second round anyways?

Disagreement between your opponent and yourself = No opponent for Darkness due to forfeit for the equivalent reason...


Let take it to you know who. And like i said i contact him many times to battle when he was on. and I even post in here multiply times that he would not battle. The same should go for him with the adjusting of time if i ask him for battle right.not to be rude or anything but maybe you should read all the pages before you try to take something over.

After I sent my complaint, I found out that Saikon allowed me to take over for one purpose: while he is out and busy. Also, after some thinking...

Shadow, I am grateful to tell you, that I found that you were erroneously eliminated. Abrar, I'm so sorry that you have to be eliminated like this, but next time, remember to respond to your opponent in a timely fashion when prompted to do so by your opponent. As proof of the reasoning behind such a mistake:

Everyone, this youtube pm should explain the reasoning behind how I made the aforementioned error, and how I plan to remember it as I try to avoid repeating that mistake when Round 3's matchup determination phase comes about:


He's talking mainly about my mistake in terms of missing the fact that abrar didn't respond to all of his requests...

...(irrelevant text here), ... I apologize for missing the truth in some aspects the first time, and let him through to R2 by means of opponent inactivity. I understand that there were so many people, so many matches to take into account, not to mention this being the first time managing a tourney for myself, if only in relief, so mistakes do happen when you're in a rush to determine matchups and please the head in a timely manner at the same time... I won't let that happen at the transition point between round 2 and round 3. After all, if you have to supervise 8 matches, and you miss some of those as well, something could be wrong...

If you have any questions about my response, Saikon, let me know...

The above PM, combined with Saikon's approval of my new decision, means that shadow130690 is a go for R2. Shadow130690 will face Mredozook in Round 2, and that matchup is expected to be done by Sunday morning at Midnight GST(GMT +1), or, in AZ time(GMT-7), that's 4 pm...

For the rest of you, if your opponent hasn't responded yet, if your opponent has yet to respond, tell me tomorrow after 4 am AZ time, or Noon GST, and I'll make a list of who has yet to respond, and post the list accordingly to the information I receive that could help me decide what names to put on that list. If your name is on my list, don't delay the complainer, as failure to respond to their respective opponents requests and/or failing to get their battle done by the deadline due to delay tactics that are found to be the work of the complainee will result in match forfeiture. For shadow's match against Mredozook, either of you can tell me about failure to respond concerns after noon GST on Friday, since your match deadline is two days after that of the rest of the matches...


If you have concerns, relay them to the send message function of Saikon's youtube account, but please let me know why before you do so. The function is given in the section underneath the big yellow subscribe button, in the third option among the hyper-linked text to the right of the small profile picture's bottom, in his account's channel page:

If you have concerns... (http://www.youtube.com/user/PBRMasterKai)

Jew Bagel
10th August 2011, 3:03 PM
Wait, so I don't have a round 2 opponent, or I am just kicked?

gregjammer
10th August 2011, 4:22 PM
Wait, so I don't have a round 2 opponent, or I am just kicked?

You're kicked...

sorry...

Jew Bagel
10th August 2011, 4:25 PM
But in that PM you sent me it said that I get to stay in.

gregjammer
10th August 2011, 4:28 PM
But in that PM you sent me it said that I get to stay in.

please look again at top two lines...

Scubasteve23
10th August 2011, 5:02 PM
What about me? Am I kicked or still in?