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fschulze47
20th July 2011, 1:15 AM
With the advent of Pokemon Black and White, an option has been created for players around the world to be randomly assigned an opponent. This metagame has very few rules compared to Smogon's metagame. While many prefer the set tiers established by Smogon, random matchup is a place to show off more unique Pokemon and sets and has a host of threats and rules to prepare for. This topic is created primarily for the discussion of the singles metagame.

Random Matchup Rules

As stated, the rules of Random Matchup are fairly few compared to the Standard Metagame. Many players already know them, but I might as well review them here.

Team Rules: You may have as many as six Pokemon with you, as always, but you will only select three after viewing a preview of your opponent's team. All Pokemon on your team will be autoleveled down to level 50 (not leveled up) and species clause is active, you cannot have more than two of the same Pokemon species on your team. No two of the same items are allowed on your team (Item Clause).

Banned Pokemon/ Moves/ Items:

;150;Mewtwo
;151;Mew
;249;Lugia
;250; Ho-Oh
;251; Celebi
;382; Kyogre
;383; Groudon
;384; Rayquaza
;385; Jirachi
;386; Deoxys
;441; Chatot
;483; Dialga
;484; Palkia
;487; Giratina
;489; Phione
;490; Manaphy
;491; Darkrai
;492; Shaymin
;493; Arceus
:494: Victini
:643: Reshiram
:644: Zekrom
:646: Kyurem
:647: Keldeo
:648: Meloetta
:649: Genesect
Sky Drop (Move)
Soul Dew (Item)

**Other than the aforementioned things, anything goes. That means Double Team. One-hit KO moves. Speed Boost Blaziken. Dizzle+Swift Swim. Moody. Garchomp. Multiple Sleeping Pokemon. You name it. While this metagame may seem broken (and at time it definitely is), it present an extra challenge of overcoming more threats.

Random Matchup Strategies
Several things work better in random matchup than standard play, some just as well. I'll go over a few, explaining why they are especially good in random matchup. Here are a few:

Crippling Status: When you have three Pokemon, having any one of them become a dead weight is a huge issue. Any status that slows down, weakens, or otherwise completely stops an opponent is a huge advantage. I'm talking specifically about sleep, paralyze, and burn. Effective moves are Spore, Sleep Powder, Lovely Kiss, Hypnosis, Will-o-wisp, Glare, Thunder Wave, and Stun Spore.

Shuffling: Despite the unfortunate negative priority that comes with these moves, knowing what three Pokemon your opponent has in an amazing advantage. It allows you to better use Choice Users, and status is much more advantageous when you can Paralyze, Sleep, or Burn the entire opposing team with one Pokemon.

Choice Users: While bad in theory (in 3v3), they are somewhat unpredictable. They almost always take another Pokemon down with them, and are much harder to revenge kill because at most only two other Pokemon are left standing to oppose them. Knowing is half the battle, and with only three Pokemon in the game, it's much easier to decide when Garchomp should spam Outrage or hold back, for example.

Frisk/ Trick: Because item clause is in play, good players will find the best ways to use uncommon items to their advantage. You can only have one choice band, one focus sash, one life orb, one choice scarf, etc. Finding out what item the opponent has again grants a much more pertinent advantage in random matchup. Trick is especially useful when used with a scarf, because it again makes an opponent more predictable.

Screens: Battles only tend to last 5-8 turns. Why deny yourself protection for the whole battle? These can be especially useful for offense or bulky offense teams trying to counter the big threats, like Garchomp or Blaziken.

Set-up Sweepers: These can be used earlier in the game, because you only have to sweep three Pokemon to win, and they're even more so useful when you know the opponent's team.

Priority moves: If you keep running into specific threats, keeping priority moves on a team is useful, as you can see, revenging things is difficult.

Notes
If you can think of anymore, post. I know that random matchup is ridden with broken strategies and DCers, but I've found it to be an enjoyable metagame and I'd rather this discussion be about that metagame than any issues you might have with it. Post useful sets/ strategies and cool stuff you might have run into, and if I forgot anything, let me know.

Discuss.

asterat
20th July 2011, 3:13 AM
Why is chatot banned?

Porgon-XYZ
20th July 2011, 3:17 AM
Why is chatot banned?

Because of Chatter.(It let's people here your voice)

Random Matchup is alot harder than regular metagames. I've been swept with sleep, Drizzle=swift swim, and Garchomp. It's hard, yet you can try cool strategies with it.

asterat
20th July 2011, 3:26 AM
Because of Chatter.(It let's people here your voice)

Random Matchup is alot harder than regular metagames. I've been swept with sleep, Drizzle=swift swim, and Garchomp. It's hard, yet you can try cool strategies with it.

Oh, hen why don't they just ban chatter like sky drop... Cuz technically smeargle could have it right?

Excitable Boy
20th July 2011, 3:35 AM
Oh, hen why don't they just ban chatter like sky drop... Cuz technically smeargle could have it right?

Smeargle can't have Chatter.

Blue Harvest
20th July 2011, 3:42 AM
Why is chatot banned?

Well Chatter not only changes its sound, it also changes Chatot's cry. So the complications start like this..

Blue Harvest sent out Skarmory! "Brrrrooocheeee!!!"
Opponent sent out Chatot! "N***** S*** C***!!!"

TM0verlord
20th July 2011, 3:44 AM
I must ask, how come Sky Drop is banned in Random Matchup?

kaiser soze
20th July 2011, 4:00 AM
Im thinking of using moody smeargle to BP shell smash to someone next time I try it. also minimize brightpowder statmie

Excitable Boy
20th July 2011, 4:01 AM
I must ask, how come Sky Drop is banned in Random Matchup?

Sky Drop + Gravity = No movement

Youtube "Sky Drop glitch"

waffle_x_v
20th July 2011, 6:02 AM
I think this metagame is tons of fun. I face very unique teams, surprisingly. I win most of my battles because no one expects half the pokemon on my team to show up. I have to say that weather teams are crazy strong. I've faced four sand teams, lost twice, two sun teams lost, and two rain teams, and I actually beat both. Rain is underwhelming. I use Sub-CM virizion and it does an excellent job at walling politoad, setting up, and then sweeping. I've also found that rotom-w and rotom-c are excellent counters to rain and sand. Sun I have trouble with. Bulky waters don't do much good seeing as how solarbeam is prevalent. My best counter for sun teams are fire/dragon types with stone edge/EQ. I prefer to use entei as no one sees it coming.

A.J.
20th July 2011, 12:32 PM
Random matchup is very challenging, and that's why I like it.

The only thing I wish Random Matchup would do is enable 6 on 6 battles instead of 3 on 3.

irock245
20th July 2011, 1:32 PM
This looks very interesting. I'll have to try it once I get a team up and running.

fschulze47
20th July 2011, 2:18 PM
I think this metagame is tons of fun. I face very unique teams, surprisingly. I win most of my battles because no one expects half the pokemon on my team to show up. I have to say that weather teams are crazy strong. I've faced four sand teams, lost twice, two sun teams lost, and two rain teams, and I actually beat both. Rain is underwhelming. I use Sub-CM virizion and it does an excellent job at walling politoad, setting up, and then sweeping. I've also found that rotom-w and rotom-c are excellent counters to rain and sand. Sun I have trouble with. Bulky waters don't do much good seeing as how solarbeam is prevalent. My best counter for sun teams are fire/dragon types with stone edge/EQ. I prefer to use entei as no one sees it coming.

This. It's much easier to understand why Smogon banned Drizzle/Swift Swim when you see how broken it is. Rain teams also have a knack for sleep support with Politoad's Hypnosis and Kingdra's Yawn.

Poke_Cannon
20th July 2011, 2:20 PM
While this metagame may seem broken

it is.

Kerosene
20th July 2011, 3:26 PM
^Agreed.

It is fun, but less fun when someone abuses Evasion/OHKO moves or uses the classic Politoed+Kingdra strategy.

Zekromaster826
21st July 2011, 12:19 AM
While this metagame may seem broken

it is.

It's not even funny how TRUE that sentence is

fschulze47
21st July 2011, 2:43 AM
Pretty sure I made it obvious that I know how broken this metagame is.

I'm also pretty sure I made it obvious that wasn't what this topic was about.

poopoop
21st July 2011, 2:50 AM
speed boost blaziken kinda sucks in random matchup. its so
predictable and easy to counter when you get see your opponent has one

kaiser soze
21st July 2011, 5:07 AM
Ive noticed entry hazards are quite uncommon. half of that probably comes from not everyone reading smogon guides, but you dont get that much bang for your buck when they only have 3 pokemon, and there is less switching. so rocks & spikes isnt as viable unless youre going to make a team devoted to phazing, so adding an attack for extra coverage might be better.. this also makes the 4x rock weakness pokes (like charizard, volcarona, and yanmega) more viable

3.14kachu
21st July 2011, 5:30 AM
Speed Boost Blaziken passes speed boosts to a Moody Smeargle, which puts every pokemon on the foe's team to sleep with Spore, uses Belly Drum, and Baton Passes to Garchomp. If only I had a Latios with Soul Dew, or maybe a Simple Swoobat that used Double Team over and over...

That would be awful to fight against, but so much fun to use. I just want to see how many of Smogon's rules can be broken in this medium.

bidoofs_are_cool_too!
21st July 2011, 2:37 PM
Random matchup is very challenging, and that's why I like it.

The only thing I wish Random Matchup would do is enable 6 on 6 battles instead of 3 on 3.

Agree! I wish they could do something about rage quitters though, i have lost so much wins because of them! But another thing i hate is people who spam guillotine and sheer cold. And people who use cheap tactics like minimise behind a sub with toxic.

I have found that a calm mind suicune to be very helpful for me, and CB scizor. I usually use these two together.

bidoofs_are_cool_too!
21st July 2011, 2:39 PM
Speed Boost Blaziken passes speed boosts to a Moody Smeargle, which puts every pokemon on the foe's team to sleep with Spore, uses Belly Drum, and Baton Passes to Garchomp. If only I had a Latios with Soul Dew, or maybe a Simple Swoobat that used Double Team over and over...

That would be awful to fight against, but so much fun to use. I just want to see how many of Smogon's rules can be broken in this medium.

wow that would be tough... But isn't speed boost blaziken illegal with baton pass? or does it not matter in random matchups?

Silvershark
21st July 2011, 5:12 PM
I don't see what the problem with rain/swift swim is. Kingdra can be easily contained even with double speed, it's hardily a threat. Sand rush Excadrill on the other hand is far more menacing. My biggest problem with Random Matchup is rage quitters though. I've been robbed of 50+ wins because my opponent disconnects as soon as I kill their last pokemon, or even so much as take the upper hand in a battle.

K1LL3RxP0P7aRt
21st July 2011, 5:16 PM
the random matchup can be very fun I usually dont have a problem But thoes Rage quitters. the worst are those Asians when i get on at about 1 Am -4 am almost every asian I battle quits(im not saying that to be racist) but does anyone else have that problem?

Stunfisk
21st July 2011, 5:22 PM
I agree.Like, almost every time I KO a Pokemon from the Opponents side, they rage quit.They should know that they can't always win.

Silvershark
21st July 2011, 8:07 PM
It's really disheartening when it's right before a would be epic win.

"OMG, I can't believe I pulled that off. I'm so saving the vid-″You have been disconnected.

Psycho Cut
21st July 2011, 8:29 PM
With this metagame, the general rule is: if ya can't beat 'em, join 'em.

Basically, I'm saying that if you go on with your nice, little Smogon-legal team, you'll be at a huge disadvantage to drizzle+swift swim, garchomp etc. So the best way to excel, is to use them yourself.

poopoop
21st July 2011, 8:54 PM
With this metagame, the general rule is: if ya can't beat 'em, join 'em.

Basically, I'm saying that if you go on with your nice, little Smogon-legal team, you'll be at a huge disadvantage to drizzle+swift swim, garchomp etc. So the best way to excel, is to use them yourself.

thats what i do and its fun:D

Porgon-XYZ
21st July 2011, 8:57 PM
Ironicly, they only rage quit on me if they have a few wins. If they have none or 1000s, they go to the end.

MetalSonic
21st July 2011, 8:58 PM
Oh dear god, the sheer number of Garchomps...

poopoop
21st July 2011, 9:01 PM
Oh dear god, the sheer number of Garchomps...

just make sure you have a poke that can handle fast sweepers and your good to go

Poke_Cannon
21st July 2011, 9:02 PM
Sand's up..

Garchomp @ Brightpowder
Ability: Sand Veil
Nature: Jolly
252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake

whatcha gonna do.

Cometk
21st July 2011, 9:11 PM
Sand's up..

Garchomp @ Brightpowder
Ability: Sand Veil
Nature: Jolly
252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake

whatcha gonna do.

switch in politoed and my swift swim abusers obv

MetalSonic
21st July 2011, 9:13 PM
just make sure you have a poke that can handle fast sweepers and your good to go

That's why i've got myself a Scarfed Haxorus. :3


Sand's up..

Garchomp @ Brightpowder
Ability: Sand Veil
Nature: Jolly
252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake

whatcha gonna do.

Above post. :0 I mean, unless it misses...

Poke_Cannon
21st July 2011, 9:14 PM
switch in politoed and my swift swim abusers obv

Lol, then the whole cycle of Banned vs Banned continues.

Excitable Boy
21st July 2011, 10:03 PM
whatcha gonna do.

Petition GameFreak to make an Ice-type version of Aura Sphere in Gen 6 and never, ever go on Random Matchup?

Psycho Cut
21st July 2011, 10:23 PM
Petition GameFreak to make an Ice-type version of Aura Sphere in Gen 6 and never, ever go on Random Matchup?
And call it '**** You Garchomp' ;)

poopoop
22nd July 2011, 1:36 AM
Sand's up..

Garchomp @ Brightpowder
Ability: Sand Veil
Nature: Jolly
252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake

whatcha gonna do.

cloyster use icicle spear and cross fingers that it hits

kaiser soze
22nd July 2011, 3:00 AM
I like how everyone has a team of thundurus, garchomp, haxorus, hydreigon, and lati@s

mukku12
22nd July 2011, 9:57 AM
random match ups are very challenging for me at least. i can't even count all those loses i had with TT+Garchomb and sun teams ALWAYS give me hard time, and rage quitters are annoying every time i land last hit they disconnect, i could have about 20 wins more .

today i faced Ninjask bottompassing sword dance, and 3 speed boosts to Choice band Haxarus...oh man that was painful

PokeGyms
22nd July 2011, 12:58 PM
I know a guy who knows a guy who battled with a max speed jolly Haxorus and a Golurk that wasn't even carrying anything outsped and killed his whole team. That's what I really dislike about hacking.

Dark Sharpedo
22nd July 2011, 1:10 PM
I never liked random Matchup.
Whenever I battled there was always a team either consisting from the Politoed-Rain Core, Nintales-Drought, or TTar/Hippos-Sandstorm.
It just shows the domination of weather in 5th Gen.

poopoop
22nd July 2011, 8:46 PM
I know a guy who knows a guy who battled with a max speed jolly Haxorus and a Golurk that wasn't even carrying anything outsped and killed his whole team. That's what I really dislike about hacking.
is he sure the golurk wasn't a zoroark? cause the random wifi does a really good job at keeping super hacked stats away

K1LL3RxP0P7aRt
23rd July 2011, 1:13 AM
is he sure the golurk wasn't a zoroark? cause the random wifi does a really good job at keeping super hacked stats away

lol idk ive had the same situation happen to me a couple times like just 10 minutes ago somesones jellicent without tailwind, or any speed stat changers or quick claw out sped my Jolly Archeops with max speed Ev's. it keeps most hacks out but not all of them

poopoop
23rd July 2011, 3:18 AM
lol idk ive had the same situation happen to me a couple times like just 10 minutes ago somesones jellicent without tailwind, or any speed stat changers or quick claw out sped my Jolly Archeops with max speed Ev's. it keeps most hacks out but not all of them

do u have a battle vid of it?

bidoofs_are_cool_too!
23rd July 2011, 12:44 PM
the random matchup can be very fun I usually dont have a problem But thoes Rage quitters. the worst are those Asians when i get on at about 1 Am -4 am almost every asian I battle quits(im not saying that to be racist) but does anyone else have that problem?

yes i know! I know your not racist, but they are the ones who always rage quit.

Coogrr
24th July 2011, 3:19 AM
Aaron:
Ability:Sturdy
Item: shell bell
-quick attack
-endeavor

Used with tyranitar.
Beat all three of my pokemon… NO!!!!!

purplepikachu
28th July 2011, 3:33 PM
lol idk ive had the same situation happen to me a couple times like just 10 minutes ago somesones jellicent without tailwind, or any speed stat changers or quick claw out sped my Jolly Archeops with max speed Ev's. it keeps most hacks out but not all of them

This is very possible, esp b/c your archeops didn't have max speed IVs

Max speed Archeops: 350, with 31IVspe
Max speed Jellicent: 240

Jellicent with scarf: 360

360>350

Vandslaux
28th July 2011, 4:37 PM
Every time I go on there, I find Sandstorm, sandstorm, and more sandstorm. Next time I go on there, I'm going to use Sun.

Vandslaux
28th July 2011, 4:41 PM
Sand's up..

Garchomp @ Brightpowder
Ability: Sand Veil
Nature: Jolly
252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake

whatcha gonna do.

Machamp + Ice Punch = KOed Garchomp.

poopoop
28th July 2011, 7:15 PM
Every time I go on there, I find Sandstorm, sandstorm, and more sandstorm. Next time I go on there, I'm going to use Sun.

i use sudowoodo as my sand storm counter on there

adamant
252 atk/252 def/4 hp
ability: sturdy
sucker punch
earthquake
hammer arm
stone edge

it can take out excadrill and tar tar super easily, and many, many other random pokes all thanks to sturdy and sucker punch(and bright powder sometimes :D )

Sagachu
29th July 2011, 3:06 AM
I'll admit that I mostly play doubles, but anything that can cripple your opponent's poke/s is golden. T-wave, WoW, encore, anything like that is great.

Also, pro tip, if you opponent has a garchomp on their team, there is a roughly 150% chance that they're gonna use it. It's almost mandatory.

Vandslaux
30th July 2011, 5:15 PM
I played doubles once, with my Gigalith, a lv. 35 Musharna, my Sawsbuck, and my Samurott. They used Cresselia, Metagross, Gyarados, and Zapdos. I lost 4-0. Cresselia used Safeguard, Metagross used EQ. Cresselia used Swagger, it missed. Metagross EQed, Cress had Levitate. Cresselia used Swagger on Metagross, it hit, Atk sharply rose, Safeguard blocked Confusion. Cresselia kept using Swagger on Meta until Safeguard ran out, then he started using Meteor Mash.

A.J.
30th July 2011, 6:30 PM
lol idk ive had the same situation happen to me a couple times like just 10 minutes ago somesones jellicent without tailwind, or any speed stat changers or quick claw out sped my Jolly Archeops with max speed Ev's. it keeps most hacks out but not all of them

As far as I know, it rejects illegal move sets (such as Porygon-Z with Nasty Plot that isn't Poketransferred), and pokemon with over 510 EVs.

The Jellicent could have been holding a Choice Scarf.

Vandslaux
3rd August 2011, 3:02 AM
As far as I know, it rejects illegal move sets (such as Porygon-Z with Nasty Plot that isn't Poketransferred), and pokemon with over 510 EVs.

The Jellicent could have been holding a Choice Scarf.

Porygon-Z gets NP in BW, just catch a Porygon in White Forest, evolve it, teach it Nasty Plot.

Also, currently, I've been unable to find an opponent for so long..

poopoop
7th August 2011, 5:07 PM
i like random match ups because i can used lots of stuff that i can't use on here.

Kotone
8th August 2011, 10:13 AM
I don't like random match-ups, people always ragequit when they are about to lose and don't let me get the win

irock245
8th August 2011, 2:53 PM
Once my wifi team is done, i'm goning to name all my pokemon,"failsquit" to guilt the opponent into losing if i beat them instead of ragequitting.

cdawg3574
8th August 2011, 3:42 PM
Once my wifi team is done, i'm goning to name all my pokemon,"failsquit" to guilt the opponent into losing if i beat them instead of ragequitting.

I don't think they get to see the names of your pokes, and even if they did it would just look like so much gibberish to them, considering most are japanese or some other nationality. I did have someone from the UK ragequit 1 of my slowbro sweeps, so if they do get to see it, maybe it will work...

Mutsumi
9th August 2011, 2:44 PM
You do not get to see any of the nicknames over wifi, all you see is the default name of the Pokémon in the language of your opponent.

irock245
10th August 2011, 10:16 PM
aww, it would have been awesome to have nicknames on wifi....

Del Mundo
16th August 2011, 5:34 AM
I give up with rated random matchup now. In my last wave of battles. Four out of five people I won against ragequit at some point. My win lose ratio isn't good enough to keep up with rage quitters. sigh

poopoop
16th August 2011, 5:52 AM
I give up with rated random matchup now. In my last wave of battles. Four out of five people I won against ragequit at some point. My win lose ratio isn't good enough to keep up with rage quitters. sigh

just go to the free battles like me, there's less ragequitters there

Heavenly Mikaru
17th August 2011, 3:50 AM
I dont mind Random Matchup (Even though the Rage Quitters annoy me to no end...)

Two of my pokemon are banned >.>
its hard to find substitutes for them...

Gen1Trainer
19th August 2011, 12:07 AM
I do free mode singles alot and have just got my 1st star. Rain is my main problem. Im thinkin of teachin my lapras thunder to take a few pokemon down with me. I dont get many ragequitters now wheras when the games were released everyone ragequit.

Pichu47
19th August 2011, 5:48 PM
I like random matchup even though it is extremely broken. Literally every single team has either a latios, tyranitar, or a garchomp. Ugh.

poopoop
20th August 2011, 6:51 AM
my rain team ↓↓↓↓↓ has been doing very good on there

rocky505
30th August 2011, 4:22 AM
I hate them. I see broken and banned things all the time. WHY do they allow OHKO moves? I see chomp every 2 battles it is annoying. I also see double teamers. Everytime i see a OHKO move or evasion boosting move i turn my ds off. I want to play fair! Not with a sore loser who relys on ohkos and evasion.

poopoop
1st September 2011, 5:01 PM
I hate them. I see broken and banned things all the time. WHY do they allow OHKO moves? I see chomp every 2 battles it is annoying. I also see double teamers. Everytime i see a OHKO move or evasion boosting move i turn my ds off. I want to play fair! Not with a sore loser who relys on ohkos and evasion.

it's not smogon...

if your team is good there should be much problem. and if the OHKO moves give you problems use sturdy or focus sash because barely anyone uses entry hazards. evasion is a problem tho, just kill it as fast as you can

ultimatedarkrai
1st September 2011, 5:33 PM
While this metagame may seem broken

it is.

definitely broken metagame

irock245
1st September 2011, 5:39 PM
Oh sh*t son i will double team spam to no end now suckers!

Vandslaux
4th September 2011, 3:25 PM
What's a standard Sand team? I'm using Hippo with SR, SubSD Garchomp, and Specs Latios.

Eranu™
5th September 2011, 2:14 PM
What's a standard Sand team? I'm using Hippo with SR, SubSD Garchomp, and Specs Latios.

SR are pretty useless in random since it's only 3 v 3.
you could use it if you want to cripple focus sash users.
also i would recommend TTar over Hippowdon and maybe Excadrill over Garchomp since latios is also dragon type and Excadrill has more synergy with Sand than Garchomp.

PokeMaster366
6th September 2011, 1:12 PM
Random matchup is very challenging, and that's why I like it.

The only thing I wish Random Matchup would do is enable 6 on 6 battles instead of 3 on 3.

They do. You just have to go to the triple/launcher battle section.

Vandslaux
6th September 2011, 1:34 PM
ok. That team is extremely Weavile weak, anyway.

Is Specs Latios any good on Random Matchup? A free kill from Draco Meteor is very important, since it's 3v3. Or CM Reuniclus?

poopoop
6th September 2011, 3:15 PM
ok. That team is extremely Weavile weak, anyway.

Is Specs Latios any good on Random Matchup? A free kill from Draco Meteor is very important, since it's 3v3. Or CM Reuniclus?

I've been using a scarfed one and its been doing great.

kaiser soze
9th September 2011, 6:01 AM
Rotational Battle:
- Guy sends out Shedinja
- I switch out into Porygon2, Traces Wonder Guard, other poke's move does nothing
- Rotates back to Shedinja, I use Toxic, it's gone
- Ragequit

Heavenly Mikaru
9th September 2011, 4:12 PM
Rotational Battle:
- Guy sends out Shedinja
- I switch out into Porygon2, Traces Wonder Guard, other poke's move does nothing
- Rotates back to Shedinja, I use Toxic, it's gone
- Ragequit

This happened when I was against the Lv.1 aron trick
I got lucky with para hax and mesprit was my only pokemon left lol

heiiumzz
13th September 2011, 5:04 AM
Funniest encounter i had, we both are left with our last pokemon:
guy: sends out cloyster
me: sends out latios

turn1
"wanted to use thunderbolt straight off the bat, considering cloysters low sp.defense but based on my experience, most cloysters hold focus sashes to gain a free shell smash, so i decided to use trick"

bx's latios used trick!
Foes cloyster gained choice specs,
bxs latios gained focus sash

foes cloyster uses shell smash!

Turn2
foe figured that he cant change his moves and hesitated.
I was planning to spam thunderbolt.

*blue screen*
*you have lost connection bla bla bla*
*_*

heiiumzz
13th September 2011, 5:18 AM
I'll admit that I mostly play doubles, but anything that can cripple your opponent's poke/s is golden. T-wave, WoW, encore, anything like that is great.

Also, pro tip, if you opponent has a garchomp on their team, there is a roughly 150% chance that they're gonna use it. It's almost mandatory.

I beg to differ.
I alway had a garchomp in my team, but i seldom use it over excadrill, too much scarfer and ice shard users around.

Bringing 3 sandstorm sweeper is risky, when the opponent, change the weather, its gg.
Most commonly used combo myself,
liligant as lead, hippowdon, excadrill

Sometimes i use my sandsteam as a bait, to make people think that im gonna use them,
Most of the people use, rotom w or powerful water to counter my hippodow.

Instead i used a liligant as my lead and swept his team.

poopoop
14th September 2011, 12:25 AM
Funniest encounter i had, we both are left with our last pokemon:
guy: sends out cloyster
me: sends out latios

turn1
"wanted to use thunderbolt straight off the bat, considering cloysters low sp.defense but based on my experience, most cloysters hold focus sashes to gain a free shell smash, so i decided to use trick"

bx's latios used trick!
Foes cloyster gained choice specs,
bxs latios gained focus sash

foes cloyster uses shell smash!

Turn2
foe figured that he cant change his moves and hesitated.
I was planning to spam thunderbolt.

*blue screen*
*you have lost connection bla bla bla*
*_*

I lol at that guy. there was no need to use shell smash, he could have ko'd you by just using icicle spear especially since it had sash and your latios was your last poke!

heiiumzz
14th September 2011, 3:31 AM
I lol at that guy. there was no need to use shell smash, he could have ko'd you by just using icicle spear especially since it had sash and your latios was your last poke!

Sometimes trick from my latios catches people off guard.. Lol..

Trick render skarmory, blissey useless :)

TheDarkrai
7th November 2012, 5:00 AM
Random Matchup being rather unpopular on Serebii and Smogon, I am quite surprised to see a thread for it, though everyone seems to be narrowing their conversations to single battles...

I started playing Rotation recently and found it a lot more interesting because there are more mind games and prediction involved and i can use FOUR of my Pokemon! You won't be left out, Heatran! Some mechanics involved here really annoy me though. Specifically Drought, Sand Stream etc not activating if the Pokemon is rotated in. I forget to put my Politoed/Abomasnow/etc at the front a lot.

I'll get around to trying some other modes sometime, but right now i think Rotation Matchup battles are epic. Join me! (The waiting time is AAAAAAAAAGES at the moment. It takes two minutes to find a game).

jesusfreak94
7th November 2012, 5:07 AM
Lol, RandBat isn't unpopular on Smogon. Heck, it's the default ladder when you log onto their PS! server.

Oh, and BUMP!