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Tarro57
2nd September 2011, 10:32 PM
I have just decided to download RNG Reporter onto my flash drive so I can have it there, hopefully this computer won't brake down... Going to try to download it now!

Edit: Darn, I don't have the right .NET stuff to run it on this computer, this computers from the year 2000...

TDawg
3rd September 2011, 1:46 AM
Got a new guy for a trade. His guts with facade as a Ursaring interest me. Has anyone ever used it?


http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/216.gifhttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/217.gif
#216 Teddiursa | Normal | Male | Poké Ball
Nature: Adamant | Ability: Pickup(Guts) | Characteristic: Somewhat vain.
Date: 8/1/2011 | Hatched: Skyarrow Bridge | Met at Lvl. 1
Hidden Power/Power: Dark/70 | IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Moves: Lick | Fake Tears | Yawn | Crunch

Kailassa
3rd September 2011, 2:44 AM
Well this went easier than expected.

The Elite 4 went down easily, even though I was only using chance-captured pokemon from in game, (Scraggy shone,) and eventually found myself confronting Reshiram.

Having forgotten to take advantage of the computer on the way up I ran back down and swapped out my pokemon for low level crap and Mew. Leading was a level 10 modest Munna. Ran back up to Reshiram and reset, using a perfect synchronisable frame 1 seed.

Reshiram managed to paralyse my catcher, and Mew's synchronise, in response, paralysed Reshiram, so there was no Sporing the dragon to sleep. Didn't matter, the very first ball caught him tight.

I was busy dying, following directions from a video which suggested losing so you could check you had the right Dragon before the game saved, when a friend pointed out I could just check its IVs in Serebii's calculator mid game. And sure enough they came up as perfect for a Modest Reshiram. Luckily Mew and Reshiram were still quite capable of winning the final battles. Mew with Spore, Sweet Scent, False Swipe and Surf/Fly/Roost is a great RNG buddy, - provided I don't have her at the front of the party, and spend an hour wondering why every seed I try catches something Impish ...

Yes, I know timid is the preferred nature for Reshiram, but I like the modest set with Flame Charge. I'll get a timid one next run through.

Now back to White to RNG Zekrom, who is waiting patiently in Dragonspiral Tower because I read back then you should have a full party and all 24 boxes full when encountering him so you could soft reset for him in the tower later. I hope his nature resets after that first encounter. - No problem, found a White perfect synchronisable frame 1 seed, saved in the tower in front of Zekrom, threw a ball and had another perfect legend.


http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5669/thpremier.pnghttp://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3927/reshiram.gif
Reshiram
31/31/31/31/31/31 Modest 14/10/2011

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/9512/luxuryball.gifhttp://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1497/644v.gif
Zekrom
31/31/31/31/31/31 Adamant 27/06/2011

Sonikku za Hejjihoggu
3rd September 2011, 2:56 AM
See no evil.


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http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/anims/515.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/anims/516.gif

#515-516 Panpour|Timid|Gluttony|31/31/31/30/31/31|Electric 70|
|Hydro Pump/Nasty Plot|
|Hatched at Undella Bay|



Hear no evil.


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http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/anims/513.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/anims/514.gif

#513-514 Pansear|Timid|Gluttony|31/18/30/31/31/31|Ice 70|
|Heat Wave/Nasty Plot/Role Play/Low Kick|
|Hatched at Desert Resort|


Speak no evil.


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http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/anims/511.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/anims/512.gif
#511-512 Pansage|Timid|Gluttony|31/18/30/31/31/31|Ice 70|
|Leaf Storm/Nasty Plot/Role Play/Low Kick|
|Hatched at Rumination field|


About time I got things in order...

Kailassa
3rd September 2011, 5:52 AM
For the people struggling with different DS's and games and getting annoyed with constantly having to recalibrate before RNGing. I had a thought, i'm not sure it would work but i'll throw it out there. Why not have different RNG reporters on one computer. its such a small program (few MB?) so surely if it was under say PC -> My Documents -> Rng reporter, and then within that there were five different folders of:
RNG Reporter Black DS 1
RNG Reporter Black DS 2
RNG Reporter Silver
RNG Reporter Platinum etc.
Is this feasible? Although it takes a bit of effort and room, it seems better than having to recalibrate all the time, no?

It's a good idea, but it's not that easy. RNGreporter stores its info on (ugh) the registry. This means all copies of RNGreporter you make will get their parameters from the one source, nullifying the benefit of extra copies.

The good news is the secret "unless" clause. ;)
The section of the registry on which the parameters are saved is user specific. So they will all get their parameters from the one source unless you make a separate user account on your computer and have a separate copy of RNGreporter stored there.

When using more than one set of parameters on RNGreporter sometimes the DS MAC Address becomes greyed out. The only way I've found to fix that is to edit it in the registry. After your post inspired me to create a new user account to host Reporter for White, I had edit the White parameters into the registry for that user's reporter. However you want to have someone around who knows what they are doing before you touch stuff there.

NoDice
3rd September 2011, 10:58 AM
Well this went easier than expected.

The Elite 4 went down easily, even though I was only using chance-captured pokemon from in game, (Scraggy shone,) and eventually found myself confronting Reshiram.

Having forgotten to take advantage of the computer on the way up I ran back down and swapped out my pokemon for low level crap and Mew. Leading was a level 10 modest Munna. Ran back up to Reshiram and reset, using a perfect synchronisable frame 1 seed.

Reshiram managed to paralyse my catcher, and Mew's synchronise, in response, paralysed Reshiram, so there was no Sporing the dragon to sleep. Didn't matter, the very first ball caught him tight.

I was busy dying, following directions from a video which suggested losing so you could check you had the right Dragon before the game saved, when a friend pointed out I could just check its IVs in Serebii's calculator mid game. And sure enough they came up as perfect for a Modest Reshiram. Luckily Mew and Reshiram were still quite capable of winning the final battles. Mew with Spore, Sweet Scent, False Swipe and Surf/Fly/Roost is a great RNG buddy, - provided I don't have her at the front of the party, and spend an hour wondering why every seed I try catches something Impish ...

Yes, I know timid is the preferred nature for Reshiram, but I like the modest set with Flame Charge. I'll get a timid one next run through.

Now back to White to RNG Zekrom, who is waiting patiently in Dragonspiral Tower because I read back then you should have a full party and all 24 boxes full when encountering him so you could soft reset for him in the tower later. I hope his nature resets after that first encounter. - No problem, found a White perfect synchronisable frame 1 seed, saved in the tower in front of Zekrom, threw a ball and had another perfect legend.


http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5669/thpremier.pnghttp://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3927/reshiram.gif
Reshiram
31/31/31/31/31/31 Modest 14/10/2011

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/9512/luxuryball.gifhttp://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1497/644v.gif
Zekrom
31/31/31/31/31/31 Adamant 27/06/2011


For future reference use this -

http://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/capturing_bw_legendaries


That article shows all the max stats for every legend, positive nature and all. So you wouldnt need to lose just to check its IVs ^_^



See no evil.


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png
http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/anims/515.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/anims/516.gif

#515-516 Panpour|Timid|Gluttony|31/31/31/30/31/31|Electric 70|
|Hydro Pump/Nasty Plot|
|Hatched at Undella Bay|



Hear no evil.


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png
http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/anims/513.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/anims/514.gif

#513-514 Pansear|Timid|Gluttony|31/18/30/31/31/31|Ice 70|
|Heat Wave/Nasty Plot/Role Play/Low Kick|
|Hatched at Desert Resort|


Speak no evil.


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png
http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/anims/511.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/anims/512.gif
#511-512 Pansage|Timid|Gluttony|31/18/30/31/31/31|Ice 70|
|Leaf Storm/Nasty Plot/Role Play/Low Kick|
|Hatched at Rumination field|


About time I got things in order...

Nice! Its great to see you worked your way out of that funk! Did you ever figure out what went wrong?

Nikator
3rd September 2011, 11:37 AM
It's a good idea, but it's not that easy. RNGreporter stores its info on (ugh) the registry. This means all copies of RNGreporter you make will get their parameters from the one source, nullifying the benefit of extra copies.

The good news is the secret "unless" clause. ;)
The section of the registry on which the parameters are saved is user specific. So they will all get their parameters from the one source unless you make a separate user account on your computer and have a separate copy of RNGreporter stored there.

When using more than one set of parameters on RNGreporter sometimes the DS MAC Address becomes greyed out. The only way I've found to fix that is to edit it in the registry. After your post inspired me to create a new user account to host Reporter for White, I had edit the White parameters into the registry for that user's reporter. However you want to have someone around who knows what they are doing before you touch stuff there.

Ah ok, seemed to good to be true! XD. Do you know how heavy a toll an extra user or two takes on computer performance? I'm tempted to do it on my laptop for SS & Plat.

NoDice
3rd September 2011, 11:40 AM
Ah ok, seemed to good to be true! XD. Do you know how heavy a toll an extra user or two takes on computer performance? I'm tempted to do it on my laptop for SS & Plat.

I have a fairly new laptop... not sure of the specs, but having two RNG reporters going at once in any way slows the reporters performance down and will eventually make them crash. If you have a top of the line computer then go for it... if not, just stick to one reporter.

Nikator
3rd September 2011, 11:41 AM
I have a fairly new laptop... not sure of the specs, but having two RNG reporters going at once in any way slows the reporters performance down and will eventually make them crash. If you have a top of the line computer then go for it... if not, just stick to one reporter.

No not going at once, just making different windows user accounts on it. Each running a seperate RNG reporter, but at different times. So that I can easily RNG on whichever version I want without calibration.

wearjo
3rd September 2011, 3:58 PM
Hey guys, during the first part, finding the parameters, I don't get a list of seeds but I've been getting the exact results every single time... can someone please help me???

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i338/wearjo/pOSSIBLESEED.png

Kailassa
3rd September 2011, 4:57 PM
For future reference use this -
http://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/capturing_bw_legendaries

That article shows all the max stats for every legend, positive nature and all. So you wouldnt need to lose just to check its IVs ^_^

Thanks, Stud, that's a useful page. Never noticed it before.
I didn't lose, just entered its stats in the IV checker mid-battle, but for RNGing, using those tables is much better.


Ah ok, seemed to good to be true! XD. Do you know how heavy a toll an extra user or two takes on computer performance? I'm tempted to do it on my laptop for SS & Plat.

Having one extra user makes no difference at all to my computer. (A mediocre 2 y o quad core.) However I've no idea how it would affect a laptop.

I'm hoping you succeed at RNGing in Gen 4 and post details about the practice as you catch things. One advantage of RNGing in Gen 4, apart from having different pokemon and great legends, is the move tutors and extra TMs available there. You'll be able to get some great move combinations.

Kailassa
3rd September 2011, 5:14 PM
Hey guys, during the first part, finding the parameters, I don't get a list of seeds but I've been getting the exact results every single time... can someone please help me???

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i338/wearjo/pOSSIBLESEED.png
I'm no expert, but those IV stats leave me sceptical.
How are you getting them spot on? You should be seeing and entering a range for most of them unless the pokemon is of a very high level.
You aren't trying to do this with an AR cart inserted, are you? You can't RNG with an AR cart inserted, or if the game is on a flash cart.

It's usually recommended you do your parameters using fairly high level pokemon, such as those in Victory Road.

Re the time, are you resetting your DS clock back to that time each time you catch something to check your parameters? The time must be spot on.

Keep trying and keep asking for help if need be. It took me a lot of confused messing around before I understood what I was doing, but it was well worth it to (partially) master the skill.

wearjo
4th September 2011, 12:47 AM
I'm no expert, but those IV stats leave me sceptical.
How are you getting them spot on? You should be seeing and entering a range for most of them unless the pokemon is of a very high level.
You aren't trying to do this with an AR cart inserted, are you? You can't RNG with an AR cart inserted, or if the game is on a flash cart.

It's usually recommended you do your parameters using fairly high level pokemon, such as those in Victory Road.

Re the time, are you resetting your DS clock back to that time each time you catch something to check your parameters? The time must be spot on.

Keep trying and keep asking for help if need be. It took me a lot of confused messing around before I understood what I was doing, but it was well worth it to (partially) master the skill.

No, I don't have an AR cart and yes, that is a high leveled pokemon, a Solrock... lvl 50

dman00
4th September 2011, 1:02 AM
So, I am having a little trouble, and I am not sure if I am doing something wrong. I have been trying to RNG for shiny cabolion, terrakion, and virizion. I got the cabolion and terrakion by advancing the PID by turning, and it worked.
Since I can't seem to do it for virizion(since it isn't in tall grass or a cave) I tried using chatot. I know I am hitting the correct seed if I battle it right away. But when I try to use the chatot to change the frame and check it, I seem to have the wrong seed. Is is just coincidence it has been wrong when I check it with the chatot?
I also tried saving to advance the frame once, and that worked correctly.
I am just wondering if I am doing something wrong, because I don't really want to have to save 20 times or so to get on the right frame.

Kailassa
4th September 2011, 1:14 AM
So, I am having a little trouble, and I am not sure if I am doing something wrong. I have been trying to RNG for shiny cabolion, terrakion, and virizion. I got the cabolion and terrakion by advancing the PID by turning, and it worked.
Since I can't seem to do it for virizion(since it isn't in tall grass or a cave) I tried using chatot. I know I am hitting the correct seed if I battle it right away. But when I try to use the chatot to change the frame and check it, I seem to have the wrong seed. Is is just coincidence it has been wrong when I check it with the chatot?
I also tried saving to advance the frame once, and that worked correctly.
I am just wondering if I am doing something wrong, because I don't really want to have to save 20 times or so to get on the right frame.
It could be just a Timer0 switch.

You did pre-record a custom chatter after you last withdrew the Chatot(s) from the computer? (The Chatter they come with does nothing.) You are trying to advance the PID frame by viewing the Chatot summary page?

You might want to try catching Virizion without doing any PID advancement to check that you are landing on the right IV frame and not getting a Timer0 error. Every PID frame should give the same IVs for the same Timer0 value.

Kailassa
4th September 2011, 1:28 AM
No, I don't have an AR cart and yes, that is a high leveled pokemon, a Solrock... lvl 50

Take another look at your Solrock's IVs in the IV calculator. You'll see, under the IVs calculated, a row labelled "spread". Unless you've levelled it up further with Rare Candies, this row will give a range of possible values for most IVs. You need to use the max/min values from this row in the Parameters search box.

wearjo
4th September 2011, 1:32 AM
ohhhhhh.... so should I use Metalkids calculator instead of serebii???

TDawg
4th September 2011, 1:58 AM
Serebii is perfectly fine you just need to be able to read it correctly

dman00
4th September 2011, 2:13 AM
I figured it out. I am an idiot. There were some timer0 issues, but for some reason I thought that chatot moved the frame up 2 frames, not 1. That was messing me up.

wearjo
4th September 2011, 2:19 AM
Serebii is perfectly fine you just need to be able to read it correctly

hehe i just found where the spread is 0.o I've always been looking at the median so of course I wasnt getting any seeds :/ I'm such a dope ;)

dman00
4th September 2011, 2:36 AM
Now that I have that done, I want to try breeding for shinies(not really worried about stats yet). I just want to make sure I have all the steps right.
Pick a Frame 8.
Put 2 pokemon in the daycare and ride around until the man has an egg.
Save in front of him.
Change my date and time to what I need to hit my seed.
Start up the game, rapidly hitting x to go into the menu.
Do my chatot frame advances until I hit the shiny frame.
Exit the menu and rapidly press A to talk to the man.
Ride around until the egg hatches, and it should be shiny.

Is that all there is to it?(I understand I may have to try a few times since the starting frame I get from RNG Reporter won't be what I actually get.)

Figured it out. It actually was really easy. Got a shiny on my second try.

Kailassa
4th September 2011, 4:54 AM
hehe i just found where the spread is 0.o I've always been looking at the median so of course I wasnt getting any seeds :/ I'm such a dope ;)

. . .
Figured it out. It actually was really easy. Got a shiny on my second try.

Congrats. You're both well on your way. :D

wearjo
4th September 2011, 5:18 AM
Congrats. You're both well on your way. :D

Hehe! I found my seed :) I'm gunna try for shiny Terrakion first :)

I've got 23 results found in my time finder progress <3

wearjo
4th September 2011, 5:20 AM
Ohhhhh...... Btw, how do you hit a frame 36 0.o

TDawg
4th September 2011, 5:28 AM
Ohhhhh...... Btw, how do you hit a frame 36 0.o

PID or IV? If its PID then drop it. Its probably too low and if its IV well you prob want to drop that too. An ideal frame for legends are 1 for IV frame

kaiser soze
4th September 2011, 5:29 AM
Ohhhhh...... Btw, how do you hit a frame 36 0.o
An IV frame of 36? In short, you don't. Going beyond IV frame 6 is highly dis-recommended.

Kailassa
4th September 2011, 5:45 AM
Hehe! I found my seed :) I'm gunna try for shiny Terrakion first :)

I've got 23 results found in my time finder progress <3

Have you already caught Cobalion?
You can't catch Terrakion if you haven't.

Be patient and wait until you have a good seed, as you won't be catching too many Terrakions. So you need this to be the one you really want.

It's worth narrowing your search down to max/min frames of one or, if you can get a Ninjask to level up (using rare candy,) in your party, frame 8. Walking around to advance your frame, counting all your steps and working out how they've affected your PID frame, is just too complicated for a first RNG.

Do you have 3 key-presses enabled? That makes a huge difference to the number of frames you'll find. When searching for perfect shinies I allow for at least 700 max shiny frame, as it's too hard to find much under that.

wearjo
4th September 2011, 5:51 AM
Hmmm... I just thought of something... Since I'm going for cobalion just like u said Kaillassa, should it work, if the frame is six, I stand one tile away from cobalion, then, if I have 5 pokes to just walk up to it???

TDawg
4th September 2011, 6:03 AM
Hmmm... I just thought of something... Since I'm going for cobalion just like u said Kaillassa, should it work, if the frame is six, I stand one tile away from cobalion, then, if I have 5 pokes to just walk up to it???

No you must walk 128 steps with those 5 pokes

wearjo
4th September 2011, 6:08 AM
No you must walk 128 steps with those 5 pokes

ACHHH!!!!THAT SUCKS!!!! oops, capslock ;/

TDawg
4th September 2011, 6:09 AM
Yeah thats why you want a frame 1 so you can abuse for a shiny and nature using the PID

wearjo
4th September 2011, 6:11 AM
What's PID again 0.o

TDawg
4th September 2011, 6:15 AM
Its a Frame that decides on nature, shinyness, and everything besides the IVs of the pokemon

kaiser soze
4th September 2011, 6:15 AM
The PID is the random number generator that controls everything about your pokemon except IVs. This is the one you need to abuse if you want a shiny.

wearjo
4th September 2011, 6:22 AM
Oh gawd :/ u can advance a frame by 1 by saving can't you?

TDawg
4th September 2011, 6:26 AM
Oh gawd :/ u can advance a frame by 1 by saving can't you?

Yes but thats tedious especially if youre going for a shiny. My advice... use a chatot

Kailassa
4th September 2011, 6:26 AM
Hmmm... I just thought of something... Since I'm going for cobalion just like u said Kaillassa, should it work, if the frame is six, I stand one tile away from cobalion, then, if I have 5 pokes to just walk up to it???
No, it doesn't work quite that way.
To advance to IV frame 6, you need to walk 128 steps with 5 pokemon in your party. However this will also advance your PIDRNG (shiny) frame.

Do you understand the 2 separate RNGs, IV (for IVs of courses,) and PID, (for everything else.)

From page one, this thread:
Methods of PIDRNG Frame Advancement
1. Saving the game increases the frame by 1.
2. If you’ve recorded a Chatter for any Chatot, the frame advances by 1 for every time you view its summary. If you have 2 Chatot, you can just flip between them!
3. Walking in an area with wild Pokémon increases frame advances 2 per step. - A better approximation is (377/170≈2.2) per step.
4. Turning in an area with wild Pokémon increases the frame 2 per step. A turn does not count if you're running (holding B). It does count if you are walking/riding the bike.

So, what is your nearby shiny frame, and have you plugged your seed into the main window of Reporter, calculated your initial PIDRNG frame, and subtracted that from your nearby shiny frame to find out how many advances you have to make to hit it?

wearjo
4th September 2011, 6:29 AM
Wait, so which one's the seed hex, the first seed or the full seed???

TDawg
4th September 2011, 6:30 AM
You want the full seed

wearjo
4th September 2011, 6:34 AM
Ok, thx :)

wearjo
4th September 2011, 6:37 AM
Erm.... It gave me a list with 100,000 results....

TDawg
4th September 2011, 6:38 AM
What method are you looking at? pics are always nice

wearjo
4th September 2011, 6:47 AM
I found one on frame one with real nice ivs :) not perfect but oh well :) not shiny either but im not fussed :)

wearjo
4th September 2011, 6:50 AM
Oh, another question :D With the dat and time it gives you, is that american date???

kaiser soze
4th September 2011, 6:52 AM
You change the clock on your game; the time zone is irrelevant.

BTW easy with the double posts. There's an edit button for a reason.

Screenshots are also real helpful. A picture is worth a thousand words, after all.

wearjo
4th September 2011, 6:56 AM
ah, so true ;)

I just caught the cobalion and I'm gunna see if it's the right stuff ;)

Edit: Awesomeness XD XD XD I caught it and here it is, I hit the seed :)

My first RNG = http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i338/wearjo/Kobaruon.gif
Rash Nature (+Sp.Att - Sp.Def) Caught in duskball
IVs = 31/29/18/31/31/31

I'm so happy XD

And 3 hours later I have finished RNGing the muskateer trio <3

I'm gunna try for the breeding method now :)

Nikator
4th September 2011, 12:49 PM
Oh, another question :D With the dat and time it gives you, is that american date???

Yes, it is an american date! Confused me as well at first, but your DS should use the same method (or both my british ones do)

So 04/01/2011 is the 1st of april - NOT the fourth of January.


ah, so true ;)

I just caught the cobalion and I'm gunna see if it's the right stuff ;)

Edit: Awesomeness XD XD XD I caught it and here it is, I hit the seed :)

My first RNG = http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i338/wearjo/Kobaruon.gif
Rash Nature (+Sp.Att - Sp.Def) Caught in duskball
IVs = 31/29/18/31/31/31

I'm so happy XD

And 3 hours later I have finished RNGing the muskateer trio <3

I'm gunna try for the breeding method now :)

Congratulations Wearjo! You'll get the hang of breeding in no time, its easy once you understand the methodology! Another added to our ranks =D.
I guess our trade is off now? hahaha

Ballistic Buizel
4th September 2011, 5:08 PM
Okay, redownloaded PPRNG with version 1.5, so hopefully I'll be able to RNG again! :D But for some reason I still am not allowed to register for pokecheck, it won't let me D: And I need that ditto so I can get more seeds in the egg seed searcher!

EDIT: Yay! :D My PPRNG works now! :D

TDawg
4th September 2011, 9:23 PM
You know you dont have to put an email right? username and then password is all

Ballistic Buizel
4th September 2011, 9:36 PM
You know you dont have to put an email right? username and then password is all

Oooohhhhhh okay let me try again then. I will be back with my results!

Edit: I'm registered now! :D RNGing here I come!

TDawg
5th September 2011, 1:08 AM
Late to your message but lol glad you have finally registered. My way work? and also I have finally switched over from my gfs laptop to my family's computer so I might calibrate black to RNG Reshi and the gang:D

Ballistic Buizel
5th September 2011, 3:04 AM
Okay, well now that I finally have a flawless foreign ditto I will start RNGing eggs tonight. Now, how does egg RNGing work? I have never RNGed eggs before XD

kaiser soze
5th September 2011, 3:54 AM
Okay, well now that I finally have a flawless foreign ditto I will start RNGing eggs tonight. Now, how does egg RNGing work? I have never RNGed eggs before XD
a) Enter all of your data on the parents into the Egg Seed Searcher (you don't need the specific IV spread; I just enter in the 31s and leave the rest blank), add in the minimum criteria for your results, and click Generate; find a good seed.
b) Stick parents in Day Care, ride around, when you get an egg save right infront of the old guy's face save and turn off your DS.
c) Try to hit your seed (I'm assuming you know how to)
d) Because of Route 3's wandering NPCs, the PID frame when you pick up your egg will always be higher than the starting PID frame PPRNG calculated (your Shifted Starting Frame). So we need to do a test run to see what PID frame we really hit. As soon as you enter the game world, spam X to bring up the menu immediately, press B to bring it down, then swiftly spam A to get the egg. Hatch it, then use the Seed Inspector Egg Tab to look up the first 10 PID frames beyond the stating one, and look for a match with your egg. (The menu part might sound weird an unnecessary, but it simulates the timing needed to pull up the menu for when you Chalot flip).
e) Subtract the PID frame you hit from your target. (ie 100 target frame - 50 SSF = 50 advancements needed.) That's how many Chalot flips you needed. So turn the game off without saving and try to hit the seed again, this time doing the flips before picking up the egg. Hatch it, and in a perfect world you just got the RNG you wanted.

darthmalice777
5th September 2011, 4:17 AM
Bred one of these for shits and grins....


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Solosis http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c294/mrmalice/male.png | OT: Malice
Quiet | Magic Guard | Hatched: 9/3/11 | Route 3
Trick Room | Psychic | Shadow Ball | Focus Blast
31/31/31/31/31/0

Ballistic Buizel
5th September 2011, 4:31 AM
a) Enter all of your data on the parents into the Egg Seed Searcher (you don't need the specific IV spread; I just enter in the 31s and leave the rest blank), add in the minimum criteria for your results, and click Generate; find a good seed.
b) Stick parents in Day Care, ride around, when you get an egg save right infront of the old guy's face save and turn off your DS.
c) Try to hit your seed (I'm assuming you know how to)
d) Because of Route 3's wandering NPCs, the PID frame when you pick up your egg will always be higher than the starting PID frame PPRNG calculated (your Shifted Starting Frame). So we need to do a test run to see what PID frame we really hit. As soon as you enter the game world, spam X to bring up the menu immediately, press B to bring it down, then swiftly spam A to get the egg. Hatch it, then use the Seed Inspector Egg Tab to look up the first 10 PID frames beyond the stating one, and look for a match with your egg. (The menu part might sound weird an unnecessary, but it simulates the timing needed to pull up the menu for when you Chalot flip).
e) Subtract the PID frame you hit from your target. (ie 100 target frame - 50 SSF = 50 advancements needed.) That's how many Chalot flips you needed. So turn the game off without saving and try to hit the seed again, this time doing the flips before picking up the egg. Hatch it, and in a perfect world you just got the RNG you wanted.

Okay, I started getting lost around d/e. XD Sorry, it's just a little confusing.

TDawg
5th September 2011, 4:49 AM
Bred one of these for shits and grins....


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c294/mrmalice/577.gifhttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c294/mrmalice/578.gifhttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c294/mrmalice/579.gif
Solosis http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c294/mrmalice/male.png | OT: Malice
Quiet | Magic Guard | Hatched: 9/3/11 | Route 3
Trick Room | Psychic | Shadow Ball | Focus Blast
31/31/31/31/31/0

AH very nice Darth. This guys still on my to do list but I want to RNG my team before then.

kaiser soze
5th September 2011, 4:57 AM
Okay, I started getting lost around d/e. XD Sorry, it's just a little confusing.
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/ckthekaiser/Screenshot2011-09-04at104538PM.png
So this is the seed I'm trying to hit. Although I start a PID frame 42, the wandering NPCs will make my egg on a higher frame.

Let's say I got a male Ralts and a flawless Ditto. I got all the data entered in the Seed Inspector page. I'm ignoring the non-31 IVs for now.

I try to hit the seed and pick up the egg. After it hatches, I have a Quirky Male Ralts with the ability Synchronize (the 0 ability) that is "Capable of taking hits." I fly to the Nimbasa IV judge, who tells me it's Attack, Defense, Special Defense, and Speed "Can't be better." Obviously I hit PID frame 48; this is my Shifted Starting Frame.

Now when I try again for my shiny I take my target frame (62, not in the screenshot) and subtract the SSF (48). So the next time I try to hit the seed, I do 14 Chalot flips first.

Try to find the Bearsfan092drums video if the logistics are bugging you.

Zak Attack XIII
5th September 2011, 5:39 AM
OK so I'm having some more trouble and need a little help...

OK so I'm trying to breed a shiny flawless valpix...
I'm filling out everything as normal, going to the 4th/5th shiny egg tab after setting the min/max frames to 8 in the capture tab. I set my desired stats to -/-/-/31/31/31 and hitting generate on the bottom of the shiny egg tab....
I'll get a seed and paste it in the hex box on the main RNG page.
I'll find a shiny modest Frame with the inheritances set to Ma/Ma/Fe/-/-/- for example. when I try to hit my seed(which I haven't been able to do in 5 days) sometimes I'll get pokes with stats like 31/31/2/31/31/28..... my thing is if the seed has -/-/-/31/31/31 shouldn't the last 3 stat always be 31? Which there not if I have a 28 speed. shouldn't the first 3 always be 31 if i hit my seed and the stats say Ma/Ma/Fe/-/-/-? which there not if my Defense is a 2. what am I doing wrong?
also does the Pokemon that are running next to the daycare on route 3 advance the PID frame when they move and if so how much?
Do I use a Seed I generate from the Shiny Egg tab or a different tab?
what would be some reasons I can't hit my Seed, I have even found my SSF?
Way are me desired stats (-/-/-/31/31/31) and inheritances (Ma/Ma/Fe/-/-/-) not working every time? Even when I'm hitting my Time down to the sec with my +1 secs figured in...


EDIT: I'm making sure my timer0 don't change....
I'm using RNG reporter 9.81 BETA on windows.....

TDawg
5th September 2011, 6:03 AM
Ma/Ma/Fe/-/-/-
Okay so this means that the first 3 stats will be from male, male, female. You want one thats -/-/-/Ma/Ma/Ma or Female in any of those spots. Make sense? If not I will go further:p

Zak Attack XIII
5th September 2011, 6:16 AM
Okay so this means that the first 3 stats will be from male, male, female. You want one thats -/-/-/Ma/Ma/Ma or Female in any of those spots. Make sense? If not I will go further:p

Ok, right, when I first type in -/-/-/=31/=31/=31 i get a seed that has this for the stats

-/-/-/Ma/Fe/Ma

I take that seed plug it into the hex box on the main page and pick a result that has Ma/Ma/Fe/-/-/-

and I still get stats that don't match my seed's -/-/-/=31/=31/=31 . I'll get something like 31/31/2/31/31/28. ?? the last stat don't match the IV's I picked for speed when picking a seed and the IV's don't match the inheritances in defense i picked the frame for...

shouldn't the last 3 stats at least always be -/-/-/=31/=31/=31 because that's the seed I picks? Or else whats even the point in putting that in? what am i doing wrong?

TDawg
5th September 2011, 6:44 AM
Okay well first off they don't have to be. By picking a seed that is Ma/Ma/Fe your insuring the poke has the HP of the dad, Attack of the dad, and the defense of the mom. But otherwise you're not going to get the -/-/-/31/31/31 unless its something like this -/-/-/Ma/Ma/Ma. But a very easy way that you should be doing is using the 4th/5th Gen Shiny Egg.

Zak Attack XIII
5th September 2011, 7:00 AM
Okay well first off they don't have to be. By picking a seed that is Ma/Ma/Fe your insuring the poke has the HP of the dad, Attack of the dad, and the defense of the mom. But otherwise you're not going to get the -/-/-/31/31/31 unless its something like this -/-/-/Ma/Ma/Ma. But a very easy way that you should be doing is using the 4th/5th Gen Shiny Egg.

I still don't get it....

when I go to the TimerO 4th/5th shiny Egg tab I put in that I want an Egg with the IV's -/-/-/=31/=31/=31 it gives me a seed...

I take that seed and put it in the hex box on the mean page and push Generate and get some results... I pick a PID frame that has a inheritances of Ma/Ma/Fe/-/-/- with flawless parents those = out to 31s. NOW this should give me an Egg with 31/31/31/31/31/31 because the seed I used was IV's -/-/-/=31/=31/=31 and the PID frame I picked was Ma/Ma/Fe/-/-/- equaling Ma/Ma/Fe/31/31/31( 31/31/31/31/31/31 ) how come I don't always get -/-/-/31/31/31 as my last 3 stats even if the seed I picked has -/-/-/=31/=31/=31 listed??

TDawg
5th September 2011, 7:03 AM
I still don't get it....

when I go to the TimerO 4th/5th shiny Egg tab I put in that I want an Egg with the IV's -/-/-/=31/=31/=31 it gives me a seed...

I take that seed and put it in the hex box on the mean page and push Generate and get some results... I pick a PID frame that has a inheritances of Ma/Ma/Fe/-/-/- with flawless parents those = out to 31s. NOW this should give me an Egg with 31/31/31/31/31/31 because the seed I used was IV's -/-/-/=31/=31/=31 and the PID frame I picked was Ma/Ma/Fe/-/-/- equaling Ma/Ma/Fe/31/31/31( 31/31/31/31/31/31 ) how come I don't always get -/-/-/31/31/31 as my last 3 stats even if the seed I picked has -/-/-/=31/=31/=31 listed??

Okay its because only the set frame on the time finder that says it will have the x/x/x/31/31/31. That means you have to hit that certain PID frame. Not any of which you choose.

jolteon135
5th September 2011, 7:06 AM
I still don't get it....

when I go to the TimerO 4th/5th shiny Egg tab I put in that I want an Egg with the IV's -/-/-/=31/=31/=31 it gives me a seed...

I take that seed and put it in the hex box on the mean page and push Generate and get some results... I pick a PID frame that has a inheritances of Ma/Ma/Fe/-/-/- with flawless parents those = out to 31s. NOW this should give me an Egg with 31/31/31/31/31/31 because the seed I used was IV's -/-/-/=31/=31/=31 and the PID frame I picked was Ma/Ma/Fe/-/-/- equaling Ma/Ma/Fe/31/31/31( 31/31/31/31/31/31 ) how come I don't always get -/-/-/31/31/31 as my last 3 stats even if the seed I picked has -/-/-/=31/=31/=31 listed??
You're using the 5th gen shiny egg tab wrong. You're supposed to enter the parents IVs and your desired IVs. If you want 31/31/31/31/31/31 then enter that instead of -/-/-/31/31/31.
Also the IVs shown the shiny egg tab aren't your seed IVs. Those are the IVs you'll get if you hit the correct PID frame. To find your seed IVs enter the seed in the main window and choose method 5 (standard seed) then click generate and look at frame 8 for your seed IVs. You can then choose the breeding BW method and right click in the main window to enter the parents' IVs and the seed IVs (IVs from RNG) and RNG reporter will display the characteristic for each frame.

TDawg
5th September 2011, 7:09 AM
Jolteon has too much knowledge for you to even comprehend! lol

Zak Attack XIII
5th September 2011, 7:23 AM
You're using the 5th gen shiny egg tab wrong. You're supposed to enter the parents IVs and your desired IVs. If you want 31/31/31/31/31/31 then enter that instead of -/-/-/31/31/31.
Also the IVs shown the shiny egg tab aren't your seed IVs. Those are the IVs you'll get if you hit the correct PID frame. To find your seed IVs enter the seed in the main window and choose method 5 (standard seed) then click generate and look at frame 8 for your seed IVs. You can then choose the breeding BW method and right click in the main window to enter the parents' IVs and the seed IVs (IVs from RNG) and RNG reporter will display the characteristic for each frame.


Ok so I typed in =31/=31/=31/=31/=31/=31 in the Shiny Egg tab and typed in all the parents IV's, 31/31/31/31/31/31 for both and hit Generate...
It gave me a seed,

F4D7CA0A3CBF0920, frame 227, PID 69DF08F3, Nature Modest, Ability 1, DW true, 31/31/31/31/31/31, Gender M, 04/01/11 00:02:08, A-B-Select.....

What do I do now, because I'm still not getting it?
I would normal just enter the seed Into the Hex box and find one that matched what i want But they never have the Stats I'm after... Even with the =31/=31/=31/=31/=31/=31 in the Shiny Egg tab

TDawg
5th September 2011, 7:32 AM
Because only the certain PID has the IVs you want. So in you case you have to hit a PID of 227. and you also have to hold A, B and select when starting the game if you didn't know.

Zak Attack XIII
5th September 2011, 7:46 AM
Because only the certain PID has the IVs you want. So in you case you have to hit a PID of 227. and you also have to hold A, B and select when starting the game if you didn't know.

Then whats the point in puting the seed in the Hex box on the main page?
is it to find out how may times I need to advance the Frames to get the PID of 227?

and what about the other frames listed on the main page it says there all flawless to so how come when I miss my seed I don't get a flawless still?

and also does the Pokemon that are running next to the daycare on route 3 advance the PID frame when they move and if so how much?

TDawg
5th September 2011, 8:03 AM
Then whats the point in puting the seed in the Hex box on the main page?
is it to find out how may times I need to advance the Frames to get the PID of 227?

and what about the other frames listed on the main page it says there all flawless to so how come when I miss my seed I don't get a flawless still?

and also does the Pokemon that are running next to the daycare on route 3 advance the PID frame when they move and if so how much?

Yes it is.

Because only that PID of 227 has a flawless poke.

and there is no set number of advancements. you have to find it yourself

Kailassa
5th September 2011, 8:05 AM
Then whats the point in puting the seed in the Hex box on the main page?
is it to find out how may times I need to advance the Frames to get the PID of 227?

and what about the other frames listed on the main page it says there all flawless to so how come when I miss my seed I don't get a flawless still?

and also does the Pokemon that are running next to the daycare on route 3 advance the PID frame when they move and if so how much?
I can't answer all your questions, just a few. Treat any answers you get from Jolteon as gold, he really knows what he's talking about.

How much RNGing have you done? Are you already familiar with changing your clock, doing the key-presses and all that to get your correct IV frame?

I guess you're not using any power items, are you? They mess things up.
And are your parents both from games of the same language? Otherwise you need to use (BW Breeding International). Don't use an everstone either unless you've marked that box when searching for seeds.

It's not the pokemon you see running that advance the frame; it's NPCs outside the day care centre. No-one can tell you how much they advance it, because it depends on how long you take getting into the game. You need to do a few checks by picking up an egg, finding which one it is on the list, resetting without saving, and then trying again until you know how much they advance the frame for you. Only then can you work out how many chatters you need to reach your target frame.

Zak Attack XIII
5th September 2011, 9:38 AM
Yes it is.

Because only that PID of 227 has a flawless poke.

and there is no set number of advancements. you have to find it yourself



I can't answer all your questions, just a few. Treat any answers you get from Jolteon as gold, he really knows what he's talking about.

How much RNGing have you done? Are you already familiar with changing your clock, doing the key-presses and all that to get your correct IV frame?

I guess you're not using any power items, are you? They mess things up.
And are your parents both from games of the same language? Otherwise you need to use (BW Breeding International). Don't use an everstone either unless you've marked that box when searching for seeds.

It's not the pokemon you see running that advance the frame; it's NPCs outside the day care centre. No-one can tell you how much they advance it, because it depends on how long you take getting into the game. You need to do a few checks by picking up an egg, finding which one it is on the list, resetting without saving, and then trying again until you know how much they advance the frame for you. Only then can you work out how many chatters you need to reach your target frame.

I'm pretty new to RNGing this is my first try. I understand everything and have figured out how to work RNG Reporter. I've read a few guides and watched the Videos. Some of the guides say to do different things and it can gets confusing sometimes... I just didn't know Only the Frame you get the Seed for has the Stats on your spread. PLus I had know Idea you could right click the Window to show the the Pokes stats and characteristic :P

Thanks for all your Help friends! :P

NoDice
5th September 2011, 11:46 AM
I'm pretty new to RNGing this is my first try. I understand everything and have figured out how to work RNG Reporter. I've read a few guides and watched the Videos. Some of the guides say to do different things and it can gets confusing sometimes... I just didn't know Only the Frame you get the Seed for has the Stats on your spread. PLus I had know Idea you could right click the Window to show the the Pokes stats and characteristic :P

Thanks for all your Help friends! :P

What I suggest you do, and I suggest this to everyone thats new.. is go to the first post of this thread... scroll down until you find "BEARSFAN"s RNG videos, and follow along with him during the calibration video, as well as the RNGing the Flawless Terrakion video. The others can wait until after you have watched those.... but that will help you get a good visual of what you need to be looking for and doing when you first start out. ^_^

Ballistic Buizel
5th September 2011, 3:08 PM
Okay, going to try to do my first SUCCESSFUL RNG today. The first time I tried RNGing, I failed. So, I'm not going to do egg RNGing until I have at least two succesful RNGs of wild Pokemon under my belt. I'm going to try for an adamant Fraxure. Flawless. I have enough repels and am currently searching for a seed with an encounter slot value of 7 so I can find it.

kaiser soze
5th September 2011, 3:35 PM
Okay, going to try to do my first SUCCESSFUL RNG today. The first time I tried RNGing, I failed. So, I'm not going to do egg RNGing until I have at least two succesful RNGs of wild Pokemon under my belt. I'm going to try for an adamant Fraxure. Flawless. I have enough repels and am currently searching for a seed with an encounter slot value of 7 so I can find it.
Don't be afraid to practice with a non-shiny seed first for seed-hitting practice.

Ballistic Buizel
5th September 2011, 3:41 PM
Don't be afraid to practice with a non-shiny seed first for seed-hitting practice.

Yeah, I'm going to try for a shiny once I hit a non shiny seed and succeed first :D And do I start my game one second before I'm supposed too?

kaiser soze
5th September 2011, 3:53 PM
Yeah, I'm going to try for a shiny once I hit a non shiny seed and succeed first :D And do I start my game one second before I'm supposed too?
Usually, yes. It depends on the time difference you got while parameters searching. If you think the seconds are off use the Adjacent tab in Seed Inspector to see if you can find an IV spread match. I don't think I've heard about anyone having anything different though.

Ballistic Buizel
5th September 2011, 3:57 PM
Usually, yes. It depends on the time difference you got while parameters searching. If you think the seconds are off use the Adjacent tab in Seed Inspector to see if you can find an IV spread match. I don't think I've heard about anyone having anything different though.

So if I run it through the seed inspector it'll tell me whether I need to start a second early or not?

kaiser soze
5th September 2011, 4:01 PM
So if I run it through the seed inspector it'll tell me whether I need to start a second early or not?
Seed Inspector is more for troubleshooting if it didn't work. If you really want to double-check the seconds part, try to find your parameters again and when you see the seed below check the time (in seconds) and its difference between when you actually pressed A.

Ballistic Buizel
5th September 2011, 4:29 PM
http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z330/bbuizel/Screenshot2011-09-05at92605AM.png


Okay. I'm thinking the last seed is the best. But what does "start" mean? The last box before the shiny frame says "start."

kaiser soze
5th September 2011, 4:33 PM
http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z330/bbuizel/Screenshot2011-09-05at92605AM.png


Okay. I'm thinking the last seed is the best. But what does "start" mean? The last box before the shiny frame says "start."
"Start" is the starting PID frame for the seed.

Ballistic Buizel
5th September 2011, 4:38 PM
"Start" is the starting PID frame for the seed.

Do I need to pay attention to it?

kaiser soze
5th September 2011, 5:56 PM
Do I need to pay attention to it?
Yes, but not necessarily right now. Right now if I understand your intentions all you want to do is try to hit the seed, which will give you the IVs you wanted. But when you want to get a Fraxure, you will need to control the PID frame, so knowing the starting PID frame will be really helpful.

Also three observations (sorry I had to run to class when I last posted):
a) It looks like the Shiny Seed part can't find a non-shiny pokemon (most likely because there would be too many results). To get around this, use the Seed Inspector to look up the first synchronizable PID frame with a Fraxy ESV.
b) (more importantly) I only see one seed with an IV frame of 1. Keep in mind that you will need to do some walking if you chose any seed with an IV frame higher than 1, which means you will have to guestimate the PID frame where you land when you stop walking. You might want to keep searching while you try to use your seed, just in case.
c) I doubt you will be using your Fraxure for its Special Attacks, so I would personally just search for physically flawless with an IV frame of 1.

Shadow_Assailant
6th September 2011, 1:27 AM
Geez...
My Chatots aren't liking me today. .-.
My initial frame is 49 and my target is 174. So 174 - 49 = 125, right?
Well, according to my Chatots, flipping 125 times actually only equals 24.
It's like they're broken. ._.

Kailassa
6th September 2011, 2:20 AM
Geez...
My Chatots aren't liking me today. .-.
My initial frame is 49 and my target is 174. So 174 - 49 = 125, right?
Well, according to my Chatots, flipping 125 times actually only equals 24.
It's like they're broken. ._.

You've remembered to re-record a chatter on them since you last withdrew them from the computer? And you're viewing their summary screens to activate it?

Shadow_Assailant
6th September 2011, 2:40 AM
You've remembered to re-record a chatter on them since you last withdrew them from the computer? And you're viewing their summary screens to activate it?

God. I don't remember the last time they were in the PC, and yes, I am looking at their summaries. :S

-Edit: Just to make sure, I re-recorded the Chatter, but they still don't like me. :D

Shadow_Assailant
6th September 2011, 4:02 AM
Would my seed get messed up if the game is set to Spring for September, but it should be Summer because I set the game to October?

Ballistic Buizel
6th September 2011, 4:11 AM
Would my seed get messed up if the game is set to Spring for September, but it should be Summer because I set the game to October?

I don't think so.

Okay, wish me luck, I'm going to try for a flawless, adamant Fraxure now!

EDIT: Was looking for a flawless adamant Fraxure, instead I got an adamant Rufflet with flawless IV's except for speed. What happened?!

jolteon135
6th September 2011, 4:47 AM
Geez...
My Chatots aren't liking me today. .-.
My initial frame is 49 and my target is 174. So 174 - 49 = 125, right?
Well, according to my Chatots, flipping 125 times actually only equals 24.
It's like they're broken. ._.
Your Chatots don't hate you. Maybe your timer0 (did you check IVs?) or NPCs hate you but your Chatots always do exactly what they're supposed to do.

If you're still having problems post the seed/encounter type and what you're getting after 125 flips.


I don't think so.

Okay, wish me luck, I'm going to try for a flawless, adamant Fraxure now!
Good luck. :)

EDIT: If you got the right IVs that means you hit your seed but you hit the wrong PID frame. Look at the PID frames and figure out which one you hit then adjust accordingly.

Perhaps NPCs messed you up.

Ballistic Buizel
6th September 2011, 4:52 AM
Good luck. :)

Well, at least I got an adamant rufflet flawless in everything except speed.

DarumakkaImposter
6th September 2011, 5:10 AM
I have RNGd for a flwless Virizion beofre but tat's about it. I heard RNGing for eggs are hard. Are they? Sadly, I have forgotton the terms and names of stuff. I do have screen shots (unavailable ATM cause I'm on my phone), do I need to post them?

kaiser soze
6th September 2011, 5:18 AM
I have RNGd for a flwless Virizion beofre but tat's about it. I heard RNGing for eggs are hard. Are they? Sadly, I have forgotton the terms and names of stuff. I do have screen shots (unavailable ATM cause I'm on my phone), do I need to post them?

Eggs are a little trickier, but if you know what you're doing they're not that hard. Personally it's my favorite method since there's so many possibilities.

DarumakkaImposter
6th September 2011, 5:20 AM
I might be able to post screenshots tomorrow about stuff if i need to. But I will read on here and ask questions. Do I need Chatots for it?

kaiser soze
6th September 2011, 5:34 AM
I might be able to post screenshots tomorrow about stuff if i need to. But I will read on here and ask questions. Do I need Chatots for it?
Practically speaking, yes.

TDawg
6th September 2011, 5:35 AM
Yes you do need at least one

DarumakkaImposter
6th September 2011, 5:36 AM
Ok. 2 right? I don't have any ATM but I can get some. I have only heard this from the guy who taught me to RNG for the Virizion.

Shadow_Assailant
6th September 2011, 6:31 AM
I can get the preferred nature and I can get the IVs, but why won't shininess work? Ugh. I'm getting no sympathy from these Vulpix.

kaiser soze
6th September 2011, 6:32 AM
I can get the preferred nature and I can get the IVs, but why won't shininess work? Ugh. I'm getting no sympathy from these Vulpix.
Do you have the right IDs entered?

Shadow_Assailant
6th September 2011, 6:34 AM
Do you have the right IDs entered?

This could be my problem. I guess I should double check seeing as I'm on a different computer now and may have copied the wrong ones down.

-Edit: Gotta love you, Kaiser. :D My TID was wrong. -.-

Shadow_Assailant
6th September 2011, 7:56 AM
Man did this one cause me a lot of grief. I spent about 10 hours trying to get it only to realize my TID was wrong about 9 and a half hours into it. -.-


http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/037.gif
#037 Vulpix | Fire | Male | Poké Ball
OT: Shadow | ID: 05497 | SID: 13142 | Shiny: Yes
Nature: Timid | Ability: Drought | Characteristic: Somewhat vain.
Date: 10/7/2011 | Hatched: Skyarrow Bridge | Met at Lvl. 1
Hidden Power/Power: Dark/70 | IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Egg Move(s): Hypnosis


-Edit:
http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/037.gif
#037 Vulpix | Fire | Male | Poké Ball
OT: Shadow | ID: 05497 | SID: 13142 | Shiny: No
Nature: Hasty | Ability: Drought | Characteristic: Often dozes off.
Date: 9/1/2011 | Hatched: Skyarrow Bridge | Met at Lvl. 1
Hidden Power/Power: Bug/33 | IVs: 31/8/31/25/20/8
Egg Move(s): Hypnosis

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#037 Vulpix | Fire | Female | Poké Ball
OT: Shadow | ID: 05497 | SID: 13142 | Shiny: No
Nature: Timid | Ability: Drought | Characteristic: Mischievous
Date: 9/2/2011 | Hatched: Skyarrow Bridge | Met at Lvl. 1
Hidden Power/Power: Ice/70 | IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/18
Egg Move(s): Hypnosis

addman999
6th September 2011, 1:49 PM
Hey, im very new to RNG and have a problem. Following Kaphotics beta guide I have been unable to calculate my initial seed. I caught a Kyurem at Level 75 and used Serebii IV calculator to get my IV spread. When i put that in RNG reporter, with my DS type, game type mac address, and date and time i started the game, it wont find my initial seed when i click search. I have no idea what i did wrong so any help would be appreciated.

The Eleventh
6th September 2011, 7:28 PM
@addman999, try using Metalkid's IV calculator, that's the most reliable. See if that works. I can't think of anything else that may be going wrong. The time you're inputting is the time you pressed A to boot the game, and not when you pressed A to load your file, correct?

TDawg
6th September 2011, 8:26 PM
Hey, im very new to RNG and have a problem. Following Kaphotics beta guide I have been unable to calculate my initial seed. I caught a Kyurem at Level 75 and used Serebii IV calculator to get my IV spread. When i put that in RNG reporter, with my DS type, game type mac address, and date and time i started the game, it wont find my initial seed when i click search. I have no idea what i did wrong so any help would be appreciated.

You shouldn't try on kyurem. Try using sweet scent in cave or grass with no npc. Youll most likely get a result.

darthmalice777
6th September 2011, 9:15 PM
Here's another one I can finally check off the list....


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Elektross | OT: Malice
Quiet | Levitate | Hatched: 9/5/11 | Route 3
Thunderbolt | Flamethrower | Volt Switch | Hidden Power
31/31/31/31/31/2 - Hidden Power: Ice 70
EVs - 252/0/0/252/6/0

TDawg
6th September 2011, 9:44 PM
Here's another one I can finally check off the list....


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Elektross | OT: Malice
Quiet | Levitate | Hatched: 9/5/11 | Route 3
Thunderbolt | Flamethrower | Volt Switch | Hidden Power
31/31/31/31/31/2 - Hidden Power: Ice 70
EVs - 252/0/0/252/6/0

Nice Darth! I always liked elektross because his ability and typing.

darthmalice777
6th September 2011, 9:52 PM
Nice Darth! I always liked elektross because his ability and typing.

Thanks, I love the typing and look. Been meaning to do one of these for a bit now, and I'm gonna try a TR team, and thought this guy would do nice on it.

TDawg
6th September 2011, 11:06 PM
Yeah it will come in handy. I wish the attack and sp attack were switched but I guess no big deal haha

Ballistic Buizel
6th September 2011, 11:37 PM
EDIT: If you got the right IVs that means you hit your seed but you hit the wrong PID frame. Look at the PID frames and figure out which one you hit then adjust accordingly.

Perhaps NPCs messed you up.

No but I was in the Victory road exterior where there aren't any NPC's. And I didn't get the right IV's either; it was supposed to be flawless and I got flawless except for speed. And it was a rufflet instead of a Fraxure.

TDawg
6th September 2011, 11:44 PM
No but I was in the Victory road exterior where there aren't any NPC's. And I didn't get the right IV's either; it was supposed to be flawless and I got flawless except for speed. And it was a rufflet instead of a Fraxure.

Well the reason it's not a Fraxure is because your hitting the wrong PID frame which is the factor for everything but IVs.

Ballistic Buizel
6th September 2011, 11:48 PM
Well the reason it's not a Fraxure is because your hitting the wrong PID frame which is the factor for everything but IVs.

I accidently hit the wrong IV frame *facepalm* I forgot it started at one so I advanced it one too many times *facepalm* PID? I don't see it on here.

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It's the last seed that I'm using by the way.

TDawg
7th September 2011, 12:14 AM
Ah okay well that solves that mystery lol. But I am for one not a mac user but I am pretty sure were it says 'start' is the PID frame you start with and you must go to main page of pprng enter your seed into the hex thing and check one has the fraxure encounter slot and nature you want. Hope this helps if not post more pics and I will continue lol

kaiser soze
7th September 2011, 12:35 AM
@BB- Double click on your seed to open up the Seed Inspector. Go to "Frames," and on the left side click Generate. It should list details on the first 50 or so PID frames past the starting one. Find the first one with an ESV that helps you. I'll post a screenshot tonight when I got more time.

Ballistic Buizel
7th September 2011, 1:40 AM
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Ooooohhhhhhh kayyyyy. I told the computer only adamant seeds with an ESV of 7, but there was nothing on ESV 7 with adamant. Poooooooooooopppppppppppp.

longchu
7th September 2011, 5:22 AM
How do I RNG a Dratini that appears only from a water spot outside the Dragonspiral Tower? This is like the only thing left I don't know about RNG'ing! Btw it can only be found by fishing.

kaiser soze
7th September 2011, 5:33 AM
How do I RNG a Dratini that appears only from a water spot outside the Dragonspiral Tower? This is like the only thing left I don't know about RNG'ing! Btw it can only be found by fishing.
There's always breeding. I think PPRNG is capable of RNGing spots, but I have yet to test it.

Shadow_Assailant
7th September 2011, 5:39 AM
I love it when I try to re-run a previously successful seed and I epicly fail...

-Edit: And it's funny when immediately after I post this, success comes my way...


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#037 Vulpix | Fire | Male | Poké Ball
OT: Shadow | ID: 05497 | SID: 13142 | Shiny: Yes
Nature: Timid | Ability: Drought | Characteristic: Somewhat vain.
Date: 10/7/2011 | Hatched: Skyarrow Bridge | Met at Lvl. 1
Hidden Power/Power: Dark/70 | IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Egg Move(s): Hypnosis | Nickname: Matt


I normally don't nickname my Pokémon, but I did with this guy because my birthday is on the day I hatched it, so I named it after myself. :D

TDawg
7th September 2011, 11:46 PM
Okay my RNG is off of the chain right now>:O... I can't seem to hit my seed for the life of me! I try to settle down and try a new seed but wth! Still not hitting it. So weird-_-

Sonikku za Hejjihoggu
8th September 2011, 12:09 AM
This is an oddly familiar situation for you, TDawg.

TDawg
8th September 2011, 12:22 AM
Yeah I remember you posting about something like my problem. If not the exact same one.

Shadow_Assailant
8th September 2011, 12:39 AM
Okay my RNG is off of the chain right now>:O... I can't seem to hit my seed for the life of me! I try to settle down and try a new seed but wth! Still not hitting it. So weird-_-

Can't believe I wasn't the one to post this. :S

TDawg
8th September 2011, 12:42 AM
Can't believe I wasn't the one to post this. :S

Lol well you're lucky!xD but yeah its so off. I only have one timer0 so idk.:S

Shadow_Assailant
8th September 2011, 12:49 AM
Lol well you're lucky!xD but yeah its so off. I only have one timer0 so idk.:S

I believe in you, TDawg! :D

TDawg
8th September 2011, 12:51 AM
I believe in you, TDawg! :D

Thanks, Shadow! :D I will hopefully be back to normal by tonight. But I am as of right now getting ready for work-_-

Shadow_Assailant
8th September 2011, 12:53 AM
Thanks, Shadow! :D I will hopefully be back to normal by tonight. But I am as of right now getting ready for work-_-

Oooh... Work... Glad I don't have to work yet. :P

kaiser soze
8th September 2011, 12:55 AM
Meh I can hit seeds fine...it's the PID frames that have been hating recently...

TDawg
8th September 2011, 12:56 AM
Oooh... Work... Glad I don't have to work yet. :P

Lol yeah its a pain since school has started

EDIT: On topic my RNGReporter crashed D:

wearjo
8th September 2011, 1:45 AM
I'm currently going for a shiny flawless modest DW dratini XD XD XD

And btw, are seeds reusable???

Sonikku za Hejjihoggu
8th September 2011, 1:59 AM
I'm currently going for a shiny flawless modest DW dratini XD XD XD

And btw, are seeds reusable???

Yes they are.

TDawg
8th September 2011, 5:56 AM
Wow I just got home from work. I had left RNGReporter on for the time I was gone which was like 4 or 5 hours. It found 36 seeds that I wanted and right when I click on the time finder page... Crash-_- I have search again.

darthmalice777
8th September 2011, 7:08 PM
Just bred these little guys, 4 eeveelutions done now.


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Jolteon http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c294/mrmalice/male.png | OT: Malice
Timid | Volt Absorb | Hatched: 9/8/11| Route 3
Charge Beam | Thunderbolt | Shadow Ball | Hidden Power
30/31/31/30/31/31 - HP Grass 70

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Umbreon http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c294/mrmalice/male.png | OT: Malice
Careful | Synchronize | Hatched: 9/8/11 | Route 3
Curse | Baton Pass | Wish | Mean Look
31/31/31/31/31/31

Kailassa
8th September 2011, 7:47 PM
Has anyone here successfully RNG'd the gift Larvesta egg?
I've been trying, but can't get anything like the pokemon I'm aiming for.

I searched using Method 5(Standard Seed), Encounter type: Larvesta Egg.

Should I be using IV frame 1 or IV frame 8? I repeatedly tried both, advancing the PID frame using Chatots, hatching the egg and using the %6 method to locate the frame I was hitting, attempting to find my shifted starting frame, but got too many frames on both which were not reasonably close to the target frame. (i.e. I couldn't locate them at all.)

If I get the IV frame right, will all the PID frames have the same IVs as my target?

I know I could just breed the Larvesta, but I might as well pick up a (penta)perfect one too if that's possible. However I've searched the net thoroughly, and no-one discusses RNGing this gift egg at all.

Having been modded for double-posting, (over two posts which were not related to each other and were answering questions asked at different times by different people) ... @!@ ... I will be answering anyone who replies by editing this post.


The egg/gift Larvesta is on frame 2.

The gift Larvesta egg is on IV frame 2. I RNGed it but decided to get a new one because a) I found out my SID later b) I wanted EM Morning Sun for the bulky set.
Thanks guys for your prompt help. I really Really should have asked here before searching 10 years for good seeds and only saving frame 1 and 8 ones, lol.

Kaiser soze, I spent a week breeding a good Volcarona for that set, and it's done me proud. I brought over a Beautifly specially from HG for the egg move. - Got spare Beautiflies if you need one.

darthmalice777
8th September 2011, 7:51 PM
Has anyone here successfully RNG'd the gift Larvesta egg?
I've been trying, but can't get anything like the pokemon I'm aiming for.

I searched using Method 5(Standard Seed), Encounter type: Larvesta Egg.

Should I be using IV frame 1 or IV frame 8? I repeatedly tried both, advancing the PID frame using Chatots, hatching the egg and using the %6 method to locate the frame I was hitting, attempting to find my shifted starting frame, but got too many frames on both which were not reasonably close to the target frame. (i.e. I couldn't locate them at all.)

If I get the IV frame right, will all the PID frames have the same IVs as my target?

I know I could just breed the Larvesta, but I might as well pick up a (penta)perfect one too if that's possible. However I've searched the net thoroughly, and no-one discusses RNGing this gift egg at all.

Having been modded for double-posting, (over two posts which were not related to each other and were answering questions asked at different times by different people) ... @!@ ... I will be answering anyone who replies by editing this post.

The egg/gift Larvesta is on frame 2.

kaiser soze
8th September 2011, 7:52 PM
The gift Larvesta egg is on IV frame 2. I RNGed it but decided to get a new one because a) I found out my SID later b) I wanted EM Morning Sun for the bulky set.

Sonikku za Hejjihoggu
8th September 2011, 7:58 PM
I don't see the point in RNGing that Larvesta egg, honestly.
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So, I'm on a pause at the moment. And I'm lazy to play through a new copy of Black I got on Tuesday. I'll focus on figuring out how to RNG HG/SS stationaries since I have the game now (legit cartridge, mind you).

NoDice
8th September 2011, 10:29 PM
Having been modded for double-posting, (over two posts which were not related to each other and were answering questions asked at different times by different people) ... @!@ ... I will be answering anyone who replies by editing this post.


If you need to answer someone else or respond to another post and nobody has posted after yours, simply click quote on the post you want to answer- copy it, and then edit your last post and paste it in there. Also if someone answered your question (like some have already) then you can freely post again since its not a double post.

Too Funk to Druck
8th September 2011, 10:45 PM
I think I'll be taking a break from RNGing. At least until I get a new laptop charger. My desktop just takes too long, and I can't do anything else on it, which is annoying with school and stuff.

Sonikku za Hejjihoggu
8th September 2011, 11:00 PM
I can feel your pain, perfectly.

Kailassa
8th September 2011, 11:13 PM
If you need to answer someone else or respond to another post and nobody has posted after yours, simply click quote on the post you want to answer- copy it, and then edit your last post and paste it in there. Also if someone answered your question (like some have already) then you can freely post again since its not a double post.
Thanks for your good advice.

If more mods were like you, forums would be nicer places and I would not be afraid to engage in conversation for fear of being awarded even more infractions like the one I got 10 minutes ago.


I think I'll be taking a break from RNGing. At least until I get a new laptop charger. My desktop just takes too long, and I can't do anything else on it, which is annoying with school and stuff.
It's a slow job, isn't it.

I've searched through ten years to find the seed I want, and that's taken days, even with 4 cores devoted to Reporter. Still, I got used to slow jobs with non-RNG breeding, and this will get even better results, plus they can be shiny.

Could you leave your desktop on at night so it can do some searching while you're asleep?

Kalosian
8th September 2011, 11:22 PM
Back in business.


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#577. Chorion (Solosis) (★)
OT: Snacko | ID: 61034 | Gender: Female
Nature: Quiet | Ability: Magic Guard | Type: Psychic
Hidden Power: Psychic [64] | Location hatched: P2 Laboratory
IVs: 31 HP | 18 Atk | 31 Def | 31 SpA | 31 SpD | 0 Spe
Moves: Psywave / Hidden Power / Psyshock / Reflect


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#092. Phantom (Gastly) (★)
OT: Snacko | ID: 61034 | Gender: Male
Nature: Timid | Ability: Magic Guard | Type: Psychic
Hidden Power: Ice [70] | Location hatched: Celestial Tower
IVs: 30 HP | 30 Atk | 30 Def | 31 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Hypnosis / Lick / Payback / Shadow Ball

Unfortunately, this was all I had time for today. I am just as busy as some of you, but I will try to make a few RNGs every day.

Too Funk to Druck
9th September 2011, 12:20 AM
It's a slow job, isn't it.

I've searched through ten years to find the seed I want, and that's taken days, even with 4 cores devoted to Reporter. Still, I got used to slow jobs with non-RNG breeding, and this will get even better results, plus they can be shiny.

Could you leave your desktop on at night so it can do some searching while you're asleep?

My brother'll just exit out. I can't even blame him either. I just hope I get a new charger soon.

Shadow_Assailant
9th September 2011, 2:13 AM
I think I'll be taking a break from RNGing. At least until I get a new laptop charger. My desktop just takes too long, and I can't do anything else on it, which is annoying with school and stuff.

You still in school and/or have a job? Search for a bunch of seeds while at either of these and leave a note not to exit out.

Too Funk to Druck
9th September 2011, 3:07 AM
You still in school and/or have a job? Search for a bunch of seeds while at either of these and leave a note not to exit out.

I am in school. The problem is that the computer I'm using is the family computer, so someone's just going to exit out. I might be able to get something done this weekend though, since everyone's busy.

TDawg
9th September 2011, 3:29 AM
That sucks TFTD. Good luck with that situation.

Well my DS hates me. I have been going crazy trying to get this one RNG and no success. I have hit the seed but was one PID off. That pissed me off a little but then I calmed down and tried again.. and again... and again. The thing is that I hit the exact same time every time and there are no keypresses but each pokemon is different (nature, IV, ability) every single time. Suggestions? Maybe I should recalibrate again but thats such a pain. lol

Kailassa
9th September 2011, 5:16 AM
I am in school. The problem is that the computer I'm using is the family computer, so someone's just going to exit out. I might be able to get something done this weekend though, since everyone's busy.

Do you have Excel installed?
If so, C/P all the info from every interesting seed the PC finds for later use. I've got hundreds of seeds stored on Excel now, so I could RNG for the rest of my life even if computers went extinct today.

Of course I couldn't search adjacent frames then. That would be a ***** for breeding and catching that roamer.

I wish wishing could send you that charger.

kaiser soze
9th September 2011, 7:12 AM
I wish wishing could send you that charger.
I wish wishing would make my NPCs wander less...

Sonikku za Hejjihoggu
9th September 2011, 7:35 AM
People still do captures? I mean, I plan to go that route on Black but...

NoDice
9th September 2011, 8:49 AM
Thanks for your good advice.

If more mods were like you, forums would be nicer places and I would not be afraid to engage in conversation for fear of being awarded even more infractions like the one I got 10 minutes ago.


Thanks ^_^ I try to be helpful, but you have to look at it from the mods point of view... they probably hate their volunteer, no pay job of just telling a ton of people the same thing over and over and over. But still, a warning should always come first as long as youre not insulting/flaming people- which Im sure you werent.


People still do captures? I mean, I plan to go that route on Black but...

I did that when I restarted my Black a few months ago, and Im planning to RNG my way through this White version I got from GF that I ID/SIDd for Thundurus as well. Otherwise captures are a waste unless the Poke has S*** for eggmoves and is in a non-NPC area.

TDawg
9th September 2011, 9:16 AM
Wow so after 2 days I have finally got em. the adamant one is for a trade. the other is all mine.


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#270 Lotad | Water/Grass | Female | Poké Ball
Nature: Modest | Ability: Rain Dish | Characteristic: Capable of taking hits.
Date: 9/6/2011 | Hatched: Skyarrow Bridge | Met at Lvl. 1
IVs: 31/x/31/31/31/31 | Egg Move(s): Giga Drain


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#270 Lotad | Water/Grass | Male | Poké Ball
Nature: Adamant | Ability: Swift Swim | Characteristic: Somewhat vain.
Date: 9/1/2011 | Hatched: Skyarrow Bridge | Met at Lvl. 1
IVs: 31/31/31/x/31/31 | Egg Move(s): Giga Drain

Kailassa
9th September 2011, 11:03 AM
I did that when I restarted my Black a few months ago, and Im planning to RNG my way through this White version I got from GF that I ID/SIDd for Thundurus as well. Otherwise captures are a waste unless the Poke has S*** for eggmoves and is in a non-NPC area.
You have to have something to breed from, so I figure, if you have IV-frame 1 / low PID-frame seeds, why not? It only takes a moment to get something near perfect to breed from, and later it's trade bait, specially if you used a shiny seed.

So I'm RNGing my way through Black atm, and spending less time catching things than I did in White, because I don't have to catch or breed lots to get a good one. Breeding comes next.


Wow so after 2 days I have finally got em. the adamant one is for a trade. the other is all mine.


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#270 Lotad | Water/Grass | Female | Poké Ball
Nature: Modest | Ability: Rain Dish | Characteristic: Capable of taking hits.
Date: 9/6/2011 | Hatched: Skyarrow Bridge | Met at Lvl. 1
IVs: 31/x/31/31/31/31 | Egg Move(s): Giga Drain

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#270 Lotad | Water/Grass | Male | Poké Ball
Nature: Adamant | Ability: Swift Swim | Characteristic: Somewhat vain.
Date: 9/1/2011 | Hatched: Skyarrow Bridge | Met at Lvl. 1
IVs: 31/31/31/x/31/31 | Egg Move(s): Giga Drain


Very cool. Congrats. I love the way you just make another original, tailored to fit individual requirements, instead of making clones.

NoDice
9th September 2011, 12:28 PM
You have to have something to breed from, so I figure, if you have IV-frame 1 / low PID-frame seeds, why not? It only takes a moment to get something near perfect to breed from, and later it's trade bait, specially if you used a shiny seed.

So I'm RNGing my way through Black atm, and spending less time catching things than I did in White, because I don't have to catch or breed lots to get a good one. Breeding comes next.



.

Thats true, but to honest- I havent even attempted breeding yet. I want to get the legends totally out of the way before that- so Im working on Thundurus now and then Ill finish up with Landorus and be done ^_^

Heres a noob stupid question that Im definitely going to put the answer into my first post but-

Do I need to set up Reporter to search for Frame 8 IVs when Im doing Gift Pokemon seeds? or if its set to Frame 1 does reporter automatically account for it being a gift? I just searched and found a great seed but then I realized that its on frame 1 -_- ... I just wanted a Shiny Simisage for my playthrough.. lol


EDIT!!!! Nevermind. Found my answer on Smogon. Back to seed searching again!

Also- added that little tidbit into the IV information under ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE.

addman999
9th September 2011, 2:23 PM
Hey i need help, Im not sure what im doing wrong. Im looking for flawless ditto in giant chasim. I searched on the time finder for method 5 standard seed , encounter slot 3 (as thats what ditto is) when i hit that seed its always a flawless piloswine instead. What am i doing wrong?

wearjo
9th September 2011, 2:49 PM
Hey i need help, Im not sure what im doing wrong. Im looking for flawless ditto in giant chasim. I searched on the time finder for method 5 standard seed , encounter slot 3 (as thats what ditto is) when i hit that seed its always a flawless piloswine instead. What am i doing wrong?

RNG reporter doesn't know the pokemon you're trying to get.... simple as that :/

Kailassa
9th September 2011, 3:54 PM
Hey i need help, Im not sure what im doing wrong. Im looking for flawless ditto in giant chasim. I searched on the time finder for method 5 standard seed , encounter slot 3 (as thats what ditto is) when i hit that seed its always a flawless piloswine instead. What am i doing wrong?
First, you've found your parameters? You've RNG'd successfully before? You've got rid of the fog and then saved?

Try searching for perfect spreads with slot "any". Choose 1 for both Max and Min Frame and allow 3 key-presses. Save all the search results for later in a CSV file, they may come in handy. This might take a while, you might have to search several months, but it's worth it.

Next choose a full seed that Time Finder has found and paste it into Seed(hex) in the main window. Click "Calculate Initial PIDRNG Frame", set Max Results to 1,000, and Generate. You will now see a list of frames showing natures and encounter slots. The ones with bolded natures are synchronizable. The greyed out ones are the "vanilla" ones.

Choose a frame you want, grab a couple of Chatots and record a call on them, take a synchroniser if you need, a sweet scenter and a catcher and save in the grass after removing the fog. Save, reset DS clock to appropriate time, restart and enter game at 1 second before the time the seed gives, use keypresses, flip your Chatots, and snag your Dittos.

I'm sure you'll know most of that anyway, I'm just explaining it all in case there's something you've missed.

addman999
9th September 2011, 4:10 PM
First, you've found your parameters? You've RNG'd successfully before? You've got rid of the fog and then saved?

Try searching for perfect spreads with slot "any". Choose 1 for both Max and Min Frame and allow 3 key-presses. Save all the search results for later in a CSV file, they may come in handy. This might take a while, you might have to search several months, but it's worth it.

Next choose a full seed that Time Finder has found and paste it into Seed(hex) in the main window. Click "Calculate Initial PIDRNG Frame", set Max Results to 1,000, and Generate. You will now see a list of frames showing natures and encounter slots. The ones with bolded natures are synchronizable. The greyed out ones are the "vanilla" ones.

Choose a frame you want, grab a couple of Chatots and record a call on them, take a synchroniser if you need, a sweet scenter and a catcher and save in the grass after removing the fog. Save, reset DS clock to appropriate time, restart and enter game at 1 second before the time the seed gives, use keypresses, flip your Chatots, and snag your Dittos.

I'm sure you'll know most of that anyway, I'm just explaining it all in case there's something you've missed.

Ah thanks a lot , i knew most of it but i can see what im doing wrong. I also didnt even know you could defog that place. but your post is really helpfull!
Also am i choosing method 5 standard seed or method 5 pidrng in the time finder?

Kailassa
9th September 2011, 4:51 PM
Ah thanks a lot , i knew most of it but i can see what im doing wrong. I also didnt even know you could defog that place. but your post is really helpfull!
Also am i choosing method 5 standard seed or method 5 pidrng in the time finder?
No worries. None of us know it all yet.

Have you found how to to defog? Set your DS clock a month ahead, battle something, (or run from a battle,) stand where you want to RNG, and save. When you re-enter at the RNGing time, there will be no fog.

In the Time Finder, choose, Method 5 Standard Seed.




<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>



At last :
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/6204/636.gif http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/8149/637.gif


#637. Larvesta (★)
OT: Kaylia | ID: 03484 | Gender: Female
Nature: Modest | Ability: Flame Body | Type: Bug Fire
Hidden Power: Dark [70] | Location hatched: Route 18
IVs: 31 HP | 31 Atk | 31 Def | 31 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Ember / String Shot

This took ages because I was entering the game faster each time, meaning I needed more advances than the previous time. The amount WNPCs advanced the frame went down from 11 to 4 as I got more experienced. And Timer0 came out to plague me. So I was pretty lost for a while trying to work out where I was landing in relation to my target. Without the %6 method to determine which of a crowd of Carefuls I was landing on, it would have been nigh impossible.

I wanted Timid, but the RNG gods weren't co-operating. I searched over 2 years with 3 key-presses and nearest shiny frame up to 700, without finding a single hexa/penta perfect shiny Timid frame 2. The Modest one, on the other hand, was fully perfect and not much over 100 chatters. Perhaps I'll find a good Timid seed for the Relic Castle Volcarona. And then I'll breed a bold'n bulky Morning Sun one just for fun.


<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>

NoDice
9th September 2011, 9:57 PM
No worries. None of us know it all yet.

Have you found how to to defog? Set your DS clock a month ahead, battle something, (or run from a battle,) stand where you want to RNG, and save. When you re-enter at the RNGing time, there will be no fog.

In the Time Finder, choose, Method 5 Standard Seed.




<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>



At last :
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/6204/636.gif http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/8149/637.gif


#637. Larvesta (★)
OT: Kaylia | ID: 03484 | Gender: Female
Nature: Modest | Ability: Flame Body | Type: Bug Fire
Hidden Power: Dark [70] | Location hatched: Route 18
IVs: 31 HP | 31 Atk | 31 Def | 31 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Ember / String Shot

This took ages because I was entering the game faster each time, meaning I needed more advances than the previous time. The amount WNPCs advanced the frame went down from 11 to 4 as I got more experienced. And Timer0 came out to plague me. So I was pretty lost for a while trying to work out where I was landing in relation to my target. Without the %6 method to determine which of a crowd of Carefuls I was landing on, it would have been nigh impossible.

I wanted Timid, but the RNG gods weren't co-operating. I searched over 2 years with 3 key-presses and nearest shiny frame up to 700, without finding a single hexa/penta perfect shiny Timid frame 2. The Modest one, on the other hand, was fully perfect and not much over 100 chatters. Perhaps I'll find a good Timid seed for the Relic Castle Volcarona. And then I'll breed a bold'n bulky Morning Sun one just for fun.


<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>-<@>

Nice RNG there! ^_^ I RNGd the stationary Volcarona awhile back, and searching seeds for HP Rock took forever!

A quick question, where did you read about entering the game affecting your SSF? Just curious, because I have never read that anywhere- and if that is the case then that explains why Tornadus was so hard for me to nail down X_X lol

Absol Wings
9th September 2011, 10:23 PM
Yeeahh I'm back with more noob questions >:-)

So, I want to try to RNG for a shiny starter. To do that i'll need to abuse for a TID/SID pair. However, to do that, I need first to find the initial seed in the time finder, hence I need to know the SID of the game even BEFORE I re-start it, is that right.....?

NoDice
9th September 2011, 10:49 PM
Yeeahh I'm back with more noob questions >:-)

So, I want to try to RNG for a shiny starter. To do that i'll need to abuse for a TID/SID pair. However, to do that, I need first to find the initial seed in the time finder, hence I need to know the SID of the game even BEFORE I re-start it, is that right.....?

I gotta leave for work soon, but ill try and make this quick.


First you find a seed you want (IV wise).

Next you enter that seed into the main RNG Reporter window and find the PID Frame you want to be shiny for that seed. IE what Gender and Nature you want the shiny frame to be. I suggest picking a bolded nature frame(which means you can use a sychroniser to change the nature for captures) thats lower so you can re use the seed later for catching flawless Dittos or something.

Next you open up Pandoras box and enter in the seed you found, enter in PID frame you want to be shiny in the same area you entered your seed.

Hit search.

Now you should get a list of ID/SID combos.

Find one that has "YES" under the starter column.

Open up another RNG Reporter and enter that IV seed you found along with whichever ID/SID combo youre interested in and see if the PID frame you wanted to be shiny is in fact shiny *(this is to make sure before you go to the trouble of restarting your game and Pandoras box isnt perfect yet so it does make mistakes)

Once you find one that works and produces a shiny PID frame you want (you want a low one because when you restart your game you can only use the "SAVE" method to advance the PID Frame) look at the date and time in Pandoras box and the key presses. Make a note of the FRAME number that your ID/SID combo has. That is your ID/SID seed you need to hit.

Now delete your save file

Turn off your DS and set it to the date/time for you to hit your ID/SID combo.

Hit your seed.

Start up the game and DO NOT SAY NO to any of Junipers questions.

Enter the game and check which ID you got

Now take that ID and enter it into Pandoras box and click find.

Take the FRAME number that the ID gave you in the results area and subtract it from the FRAME number that the ID/SID combo gave you earlier.

Now the left over number from subtracting the frames is the amount of times you must say NO to Juniper after you enter your trainer name in order to get that ID.

Turn off your game and re hit your seed again, say NO to Juniper after entering your trainer name however many times you need to. Let the beginning sequence commence.

Now check your ID... if it matches the combo you chose you are done. And you can then save in front of the box and then hit the seed for the shiny starter you wanted.

ProjectTitan313
10th September 2011, 2:17 AM
Ok, I have an odd issue that I can't seem to work out after an hour combing through google and smogon.

I have my parameters down in in the reporter, place in the parents IVs in the 4th/5th Gen Shiny Egg tab, checking off the boxes for Ditto and Everstone along with the Nature (Timid)

Parents:
Volcarona, Male, non DW
IVs: 7 HP, 3 Atk, 25 Def, 31 Sp. Atk, 25 Sp. Def, 31 Speed

Ditto, Timid, @Everstone
IVs: straight 31

I have the Ditto box checked, and Everstone nature set as Timid.
baby is desired Timid, with the following in the IV boxes:
HP == 31
Atk >= 26
Def >= 26
Sp. Atk == 30
Sp. Def >= 26
Speed == 31

I have the ID correct and a fake SID (I do not want shiny).
Several attempts at Generate give me zero results.

I can provide any additional if needed.

TDawg
10th September 2011, 2:20 AM
Try adding 3 keypresses. youll get a lot more results

ProjectTitan313
10th September 2011, 2:57 AM
err where do I add that, the "5th gen parameter setup" tab?

TDawg
10th September 2011, 3:06 AM
Yup! there will be a thing with KEYPRESSES. Woops caps lock:p

Ballistic Buizel
10th September 2011, 3:55 AM
^ KEYPRESSES yes. I hate the ones that you have to press down on the d-pad though. It always messes up my RNGing because it goes down to pictochat instead of the game.

TDawg
10th September 2011, 4:05 AM
That is why you press it after pressing A to start the game

ProjectTitan313
10th September 2011, 5:30 AM
I'm still getting zero results. :(

TDawg
10th September 2011, 6:57 AM
Post pics of everything you have filled out

Shadow_Assailant
10th September 2011, 7:35 AM
Call me crazy, but I'm searching for a seed from 1/1/2012 - 12/31/2050 that'll give me a shiny Ditto. :D

Sonikku za Hejjihoggu
10th September 2011, 7:43 AM
Have fun with that.

Kailassa
10th September 2011, 7:45 AM
Nice RNG there! ^_^ I RNGd the stationary Volcarona awhile back, and searching seeds for HP Rock took forever!

A quick question, where did you read about entering the game affecting your SSF? Just curious, because I have never read that anywhere- and if that is the case then that explains why Tornadus was so hard for me to nail down X_X lol
If by entering the game you mean what you do between turning on your DS and getting into the game, nope, as long as basic instructions about time selection, key-presses and avoiding turning on the C-Gear are done correctly, you can stop on the other frames you encounter on your way in for hours and it won't effect anything. I have interruptions here all the time, so that's been tested.

You have two gaps in which wandering NPCs or weather advance the PID frame. One is between the game starting up and pressing X to opening the in-game menu, and the second is after doing the Chatot flips, the time between pressing the red X to close the menu and pressing A to interact with the game. The faster you are, the less can happen in the game in those two gaps. But I'm sure you know that part already.

Being into music, I try to do everything with rhythm rather than just speed. Faster is better, but you need predictability so you can repeat things exactly. So I ended up practising by getting into the game, opening and closing the menu without chattering, getting and hatching the egg, until I could relax and rely on rhythm to have it done with four frame advances happening. - Just like practising your scales. ;)

I'm hoping what I'm learning long the way will help when I pluck up courage to try for Thundurus and Tornadus.

TDawg
10th September 2011, 7:45 AM
You're crazy, Shadow. lol gl

jolteon135
10th September 2011, 7:57 AM
I'm still getting zero results. :(

Enter your ID/SID from the main window and generate something (anything) then close/reopen RNG reporter. When you click on the time finder/shiny egg tab, your ID/SID should already be there.

addman999
10th September 2011, 12:59 PM
Thanks to everyone who helped me i think ive finally got the hang of this , just caught a flawless ditto and a flawless metang. I just need to ask one more noobish question, can you repeatedly hit the same seed to catch a flawless pokemon? like after youve caught one save then go back to that time hit it again catch another and save.

Nikator
10th September 2011, 1:32 PM
Thanks to everyone who helped me i think ive finally got the hang of this , just caught a flawless ditto and a flawless metang. I just need to ask one more noobish question, can you repeatedly hit the same seed to catch a flawless pokemon? like after youve caught one save then go back to that time hit it again catch another and save.

Yes you can, and congratulations!

addman999
10th September 2011, 6:48 PM
Im finding it almost impossible to find any seeds for flawless or near flawless shiny eggs. This includes 3 keypresses which takes hours and hours to search. What can i do?

Nikator
10th September 2011, 6:51 PM
Im finding it almost impossible to find any seeds for flawless or near flawless shiny eggs. This includes 3 keypresses which takes hours and hours to search. What can i do?

the trick is to get good parents. Get yourself a flawless ditto and then you should find much better results.

Edit: also remember if your aiming for a nature without using an everstone you cut your chances loads. always use an everstone.

Beck
10th September 2011, 6:59 PM
I can feel the hiatus coming on. I guess my time is done here, at least until the next games come out (but no promises)! Thanks for all of the knowledge and friendships you've all shared with me. Stay cool.

TDawg
10th September 2011, 7:40 PM
Not beck!D: see ya around then

addman999
10th September 2011, 7:54 PM
the trick is to get good parents. Get yourself a flawless ditto and then you should find much better results.

Edit: also remember if your aiming for a nature without using an everstone you cut your chances loads. always use an everstone.

Thats the problem, i am using both a flawless ditto and a flawless deino and an everstone. but i still can't find anything. I know my trainer ID and SID are correct and have searched several months

TDawg
10th September 2011, 8:23 PM
Then something else is wrong. You entered your ID/SID in the main page and not the time finder right?

Absol Wings
10th September 2011, 8:27 PM
I know it might be kinda rude to just ask it here, but....Is there anyone who could check my SID for me..? Pretty please?

I tried already with the Global Terminal but for some reason my internet sucks so bad it woun't let me use the links to contact the staff on there >_<

I need to know so I can RNG some stationaries and then eventually reset the game and RNG starters

TDawg
10th September 2011, 8:33 PM
Have you tried pokecheck?

addman999
10th September 2011, 8:37 PM
Then something else is wrong. You entered your ID/SID in the main page and not the time finder right?

I thought you were supposed to enter it on the 4th/5th gen shiny egg tab of time finder...

TDawg
10th September 2011, 8:39 PM
No because the RNG won't account for it. If you put it in the main page then it will set up all the BW options with your info

Absol Wings
10th September 2011, 8:41 PM
Have you tried pokecheck?

I can connect wifi only with my 3ds :/

addman999
10th September 2011, 8:47 PM
Ok ive tried that and am searching now...
How many keypresses would you recommend? I have gone for none to begin with because when i search for any the searching bar has no green filling on it even after an hour.
I saw in a guide there was someone who searched for a nearly flawless pokemon and go at least 3 results with no keypresses.
Suddenly becoming very frustrating

TDawg
10th September 2011, 9:03 PM
I can connect wifi only with my 3ds :/

Still works. I do it all the time.


Ok ive tried that and am searching now...
How many keypresses would you recommend? I have gone for none to begin with because when i search for any the searching bar has no green filling on it even after an hour.
I saw in a guide there was someone who searched for a nearly flawless pokemon and go at least 3 results with no keypresses.
Suddenly becoming very frustrating

I recommend 3 because you will get the best results but do whatever you're comfortable with. The search bar with 3 keypresses can take days too fill out. Trust me on that one. And ah yeah I have gotten a few of those seeds as well. Just luck with your ID/SID i guess

Sonikku za Hejjihoggu
10th September 2011, 9:04 PM
I can feel the hiatus coming on. I guess my time is done here, at least until the next games come out (but no promises)! Thanks for all of the knowledge and friendships you've all shared with me. Stay cool.

Rest easily, I'll take everything over from here again, I suppose. Thank you for your contributions and well-made userbars, I'll be anticipating your return for the foreseeable future.

addman999
10th September 2011, 9:27 PM
Still works. I do it all the time.



I recommend 3 because you will get the best results but do whatever you're comfortable with. The search bar with 3 keypresses can take days too fill out. Trust me on that one. And ah yeah I have gotten a few of those seeds as well. Just luck with your ID/SID i guess

Ok i just tried it with no keypresses and but changed it so it could be any IV spread still no seeds show. Im just gunna check theres nothing im doing wrong so ive uploaded a picture of my rng reporter

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/139/imagetib.jpg

TDawg
10th September 2011, 9:37 PM
Lol *facepalm* fill the side out with desired 31 IVs.

EDIT: also your ID and Sid isn't in0_o

addman999
10th September 2011, 9:43 PM
if you read what i wrote i purposefully made them 0 so that i would get some results and yet i still got none

TDawg
10th September 2011, 9:56 PM
Oh okay sorry then. Well really odd. Are your parameters set up in your time finder?

addman999
10th September 2011, 9:58 PM
Yeah they are, it will generate seeds in the Capture tab, just seemingly not here, i dont know why maybe its best for me to start my game again abuse my ID's and get shiny starter and hopefully better luck?

Zenotwapal
10th September 2011, 10:02 PM
I can feel the hiatus coming on. I guess my time is done here, at least until the next games come out (but no promises)! Thanks for all of the knowledge and friendships you've all shared with me. Stay cool.
Good luck beck.

see you soon, I hope.

Im kinda on a hiatus too on RNGing. Too much school going on.
Hopefully I'll be able to get my shroomish done at some point though.

jolteon135
10th September 2011, 10:04 PM
I can feel the hiatus coming on. I guess my time is done here, at least until the next games come out (but no promises)! Thanks for all of the knowledge and friendships you've all shared with me. Stay cool.
Take care Beck. You will be missed.


Ok i just tried it with no keypresses and but changed it so it could be any IV spread still no seeds show. Im just gunna check theres nothing im doing wrong so ive uploaded a picture of my rng reporter

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/139/imagetib.jpg

You need to enter your ID/SID from the main window, click generate (generate anything) and then close/reopen RNG reporter. When you open the time finder your ID/SID should already be there. Right now it seems RNG reporter is still using 0/0 as your ID/SID. This is a bug that will be fixed in the next version.

NoDice
10th September 2011, 10:09 PM
I can feel the hiatus coming on. I guess my time is done here, at least until the next games come out (but no promises)! Thanks for all of the knowledge and friendships you've all shared with me. Stay cool.

So long and good luck on your lifes endeavors! Thanks for all your contributions and support as well!

Hopefully, Masuda announces some new games next week on Pokemon Smash! ^_^

addman999
10th September 2011, 10:14 PM
Take care Beck. You will be missed.



You need to enter your ID/SID from the main window, click generate (generate anything) and then close/reopen RNG reporter. When you open the time finder your ID/SID should already be there. Right now it seems RNG reporter is still using 0/0 as your ID/SID. This is a bug that will be fixed in the next version.

Ah thank you so much, also a big thanks to Nikator and TDawg for the help i think the dilemma is finally over. :D

longchu
11th September 2011, 6:38 AM
How do I RNG a Dratini that appears only from a water spot outside the Dragonspiral Tower? This is like the only thing left I don't know about RNG'ing! Btw it can only be found by fishing.

nvm, Dratini can actually be found by fishing regularly for it. So I hit my seed and I fish at the Dragonspiral Tower. The problem is, the pokemon I'm catching doesn't have the ev spread of my seed! Is it Timer0's fault or something else?

jolteon135
11th September 2011, 7:16 AM
nvm, Dratini can actually be found by fishing regularly for it. So I hit my seed and I fish at the Dragonspiral Tower. The problem is, the pokemon I'm catching doesn't have the ev spread of my seed! Is it Timer0's fault or something else?
How are we supposed to know that? Right click the seed in the time finder, click generate adjacent seeds (current frame) and use that to figure out if it's a timer0 issue.

Porygon2isawesome
11th September 2011, 7:20 AM
How do you find your starting PID when Egg RNGing?

jolteon135
11th September 2011, 7:29 AM
How do you find your starting PID when Egg RNGing?
How do I Find my Actual Starting PID Frame?
Hit the seed, enter the game, let the season message fade by itself. While the season message is fading press X rapidly to bring up the menu as quickly as possible. Exit the menu (press B) then grab the egg as quickly as possible (press A quickly!). Hatch the Egg and look for a PID frame that matches your hatched egg near your Calculated initial PID Frame. That's your actual starting PID Frame. Turn off the game without saving and redo it to get your target.
You can right click in the main window, click display parents in search and enter the parents' IVs and the IVs from the RNG. This will make RNG reporter display characteristics which are helpful for finding your starting PID frame especially if you're using an everstone. To find the IVs from the RNG choose method 5 (Standard Seed) in the main window and generate. Look at frame 8 for the IVs from the RNG.
The judge in the battle subway is a quick way to figure out your hatched Pokemon's IVs. He will list all the stats that are tied for the highest spot and he'll say "It can't be better in that regard" if those stats have 31 IVs.

Porygon2isawesome
11th September 2011, 7:43 AM
Thanks! I'll try it out soon.

EDIT: you advance the frame by chatot chatters right?

The Eleventh
11th September 2011, 5:26 PM
Thanks! I'll try it out soon.

EDIT: you advance the frame by chatot chatters right?
Yes, you advance the PID frame via Chattering.

*IZ*
11th September 2011, 8:40 PM
Hey guys! So since I'm trying again to RNG i think I know why it didn't work last time. Do you think that it was because I got my FC in my 3DS and I was suppose to get it in the normal DS? Thats what I think was my problem, but I wan't to know, before I change my FC.

Benefactor
11th September 2011, 8:43 PM
Hey guys! So since I'm trying again to RNG i think I know why it didn't work last time. Do you think that it was because I got my FC in my 3DS and I was suppose to get it in the normal DS? Thats what I think was my problem, but I wan't to know, before I change my FC.

The FC doesn't have anything to do with RNGing, are you mistaking it with something else?

*IZ*
11th September 2011, 8:49 PM
The FC doesn't have anything to do with RNGing, are you mistaking it with something else?

No its because I'm thinking that its because in the guide it says to connect the wi-fi with the normal DS and I did that with my 3DS so maybe that affected it.

Too Funk to Druck
11th September 2011, 9:00 PM
No its because I'm thinking that its because in the guide it says to connect the wi-fi with the normal DS and I did that with my 3DS so maybe that affected it.

You don't need wi-fi to RNG. What guide are you using?

Kalosian
11th September 2011, 9:34 PM
Weekend breeds:

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bws/566.png
#566. Ridley (Archen) (★)
OT: Snacko | ID: 61034 | Gender: Male
Nature: Jolly | Ability: Defeatist | Type: Rock / Flying
Hidden Power: Electric [70] | Location hatched: Abyssal Ruins
IVs: 31 HP | 31 Atk | 31 Def | 30 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Quick Attack / Leer / Wing Attack

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bws/570.png
#570. Punkbuster (Zorua) (★)
OT: Snacko | ID: 61034 | Gender: Female
Nature: Timid | Ability: Illusion | Type: Dark
Hidden Power: Ice [70] | Location hatched: Lostlorn Forest
IVs: 31 HP | 26 Atk | 30 Def | 31 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Scratch / Leer / Dark Pulse

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bws/309.png
#309. Lone Wolf (Electrike) (★)
OT: Snacko | ID: 61034 | Gender: Male
Nature: Modest | Ability: Lightningrod | Type: Electric
Hidden Power: Ice [70] | Location hatched: Chargestone Cave
IVs: 31 HP | 14 Atk | 30 Def | 31 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Tackle / Switcheroo
Had planned to do one more, but that will have to wait.

Tarro57
12th September 2011, 2:25 AM
Got a new computer! Will RNG on the next weekend! Nice RNGs everyone! I'm happy! Need to RNG something epic...

Shadow_Assailant
12th September 2011, 4:27 AM
No its because I'm thinking that its because in the guide it says to connect the wi-fi with the normal DS and I did that with my 3DS so maybe that affected it.

I think I know what he means. He's trying to find his DS's Mac Address.

jolteon135
12th September 2011, 4:33 AM
You don't connect to wi-fi to find your MAC address...

Sonikku za Hejjihoggu
12th September 2011, 5:16 AM
Finally got them both. Reshiram being my first RNG on my new copy of Black.


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/012.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/anim/643.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/011.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/anim/644.gif

#643 Reshiram|Hasty|Turboblaze|31/31/31/31/31/31|
|Dragonbreath/Slash/Extrasensory/Fusion Flare|
|Caught at N's Castle|


#644 Zekrom|Adamant|Teravolt|31/31/31/30/31/31|
|Dragonbreath/Slash/Zen Headbutt/Fusion Bolt|
|Caught at N's Castle|

BigWhite
12th September 2011, 3:54 PM
After finally getting everything I needed, I started rng'ing. Only doing small things for the moment getting used to hitting seeds. The first couple ones I only tried getting three flawless stats. This is my third one but it took me a couple tries hitting the seed. I'm working on PIDRNG but that's fairly annoying at the moment lol.


#527 Woobat http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq296/Stealth96Si/527.gif
31/31/31/31/5
Wellspring Cave

This one's alright too I guess. I keep messing up on figuring out the starting PID frame for shiny pokes.


#524 Roggenrola http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq296/Stealth96Si/524.gif
31/31/31/25/31/25

Kailassa
12th September 2011, 5:17 PM
After finally getting everything I needed, I started rng'ing. Only doing small things for the moment getting used to hitting seeds. The first couple ones I only tried getting three flawless stats. This is my third one but it took me a couple tries hitting the seed. I'm working on PIDRNG but that's fairly annoying at the moment lol.


#527 Woobat http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq296/Stealth96Si/527.gif
31/31/31/31/5
Wellspring Cave

This one's alright too I guess. I keep messing up on figuring out the starting PID frame for shiny pokes.


#524 Roggenrola http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq296/Stealth96Si/524.gif
31/31/31/25/31/25

That's a nice beginning.
It's no harder to RNG something with flawless stats, it just takes a bit more time, and key-presses, to find them. If you want shiny flawless, you may have to do a lot of searching.

If you find frame one seeds,and get Chatots and start on areas with no NPCs, you'll find advancing the PIDRNG is not difficult. I'd recommend grabbing yourself shiny Druddigon and Golurk for a bit more practice. Or some mons from Route 9. They're no problem once you're used to them.

Are you familiar with using key-presses already? You'll find them no problem once you're used to them.

Make sure you ask questions when you get stuck.

BigWhite
12th September 2011, 5:30 PM
That's a nice beginning.
It's no harder to RNG something with flawless stats, it just takes a bit more time, and key-presses, to find them. If you want shiny flawless, you may have to do a lot of searching.

If you find frame one seeds,and get Chatots and start on areas with no NPCs, you'll find advancing the PIDRNG is not difficult. I'd recommend grabbing yourself shiny Druddigon and Golurk for a bit more practice. Or some mons from Route 9. They're no problem once you're used to them.

Are you familiar with using key-presses already? You'll find them no problem once you're used to them.

Make sure you ask questions when you get stuck.

I'm in the wellspring cave but I'll probably go to dragonspiral tower since I like the ones there better. I know about key-presses but I don't want to use them really but I do add them on if it can't find anything. The only part I'm stuck at is after I catch the first poke to determine my starting frame and I can't find it on the list or one that matches it is way too far away and it would put the starting frame past the target frame. (Does that make sense?)

The only thing I can think I might be doing wrong is not hitting my seed or I need to search for frames past the 100s. I'm trying to get the target frame between 70-100 so I won't have to do so many chatters.

Kailassa
12th September 2011, 8:14 PM
I'm in the wellspring cave but I'll probably go to dragonspiral tower since I like the ones there better. I know about key-presses but I don't want to use them really but I do add them on if it can't find anything. The only part I'm stuck at is after I catch the first poke to determine my starting frame and I can't find it on the list or one that matches it is way too far away and it would put the starting frame past the target frame. (Does that make sense?)

The only thing I can think I might be doing wrong is not hitting my seed or I need to search for frames past the 100s. I'm trying to get the target frame between 70-100 so I won't have to do so many chatters.

I guess you're not on the same floor of the cave as the trainers?

Do you first take the pokemon you catch to the judge to check it's IVs? That's one reason to always aim for at least 5 perfect IVs, (unless you want a hidden power,) - if the judge tells you it's got the five perfect IVs you've gone for, you know you've hit the right seed. If not, you screwed up entering the game, or Timer0 flipped on you.

Before you use any PID advances, you should use a master ball and dig or escape rope, and get the judge to confirm you're hitting the right seed.

Are you using IV-frame 1 seeds? If you can't find them, use key-presses. They are much simpler than walking and trying to work out how much you've advanced both frames that way.

Check lower frame PIDs too. I have a great penta-perfect, shiny, synchronisable seed where I just have to start the game and catch it, because the nearest shiny frame is the same as the starting frame.
- Of course that's useless where there are wandering NPCs.

A little trick for chatters, open Windows calculator, and key in 0 + 20. Count in 20s, and every time you hit 20, press =. It will keep count for you.

I'm finding counting up to 300 easy now, and managing higher PIDs OK.
I'm fussy about finding the exact pokemon I have in mind, on IV-frame 1. ;)

Lastly, have you come to grips with the %6 method of determining the PID-characteristic relationship? It's well explained at the start of the thread, but here's my explanation in case it helps:

%6 is for finding the characteristic a PID will generate for a pokemon with 2 or more IV stats tying for the highest. Using this you can eliminate many PIDs from the list when trying to find where you are on the list of frames you have generated from the seed in the main Reporter window.

Use Windows calculator. Under View, choose Programmer.
Set it to hexadecimal.
Paste in a full seed.
Set it to decimal and seed is converted. Copy the converted seed.
Next, under View, choose Scientific.
Paste in the converted seed, key in Mod, 6.
The calculator will display the remainder.

Loop clockwise: HP(0) - Attack(1) - Defence(2) - Speed(3) - Sp.Attack(4) - Sp.Defence(5) to make a hexagon.

Mark on the hexagon which IVs are perfect on the pokemon you've caught. (Ask the judge.)

The number of the remainder is the number of the stat which the characteristic will refer to, unless that stat is not perfect. In that case, travel clockwise around the loop to the first perfect stat you come across, and that one will determine the characteristic.

If the PID gives a characteristic other than that your pokemon has, it cannot be for the frame you've hit.

BigWhite
12th September 2011, 10:57 PM
I'm only going to the places where there are no NPCs. I'm only using IV frame 1
To check if I'm hitting my seed I just go to pokecheck. That PID%6 just sucker punched my brain, I'm lost lol.

darthmalice777
13th September 2011, 12:25 AM
Just caught this guy again.....


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Cobalion | OT: Malice
Jolly | Justified | Caught 9/12/11 | Guidance Chamber
Helping Hand | Retaliate | Iron Head | Sacred Sword
31/31/31/x/31/31

poopoop
13th September 2011, 1:23 AM
is it possible to RNG in entree link dream pokes?

jolteon135
13th September 2011, 1:30 AM
is it possible to RNG in entree link dream pokes?

Yes via the c-gear method (http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3159941&postcount=2). It's much more difficult than non c-gear and you'll need about 25 rare candies (maybe less if you use the hidden power guy in Mistralton and the subway judge with metalkids calculator) or an AR.

poopoop
13th September 2011, 1:51 AM
Yes via the c-gear method (http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3159941&postcount=2). It's much more difficult than non c-gear and you'll need about 25 rare candies (maybe less if you use the hidden power guy in Mistralton and the subway judge with metalkids calculator) or an AR.

ok thank you!

darthmalice777
13th September 2011, 4:51 AM
This little lady is now resting in my PC....


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Virizion | OT: Malice
Jolly | Justified | Caught: 9/12/11 | Rumination Field
Helping Hand | Retaliate | Giga Drain | Sacred Sword
31/31/31/x/31/31

BigWhite
13th September 2011, 5:00 AM
It's taking forever to search for a near flawless or flawless seed. I have it set to min/max=1 and 31 IV in everything but speed which I left blank.

Kailassa
13th September 2011, 5:12 AM
I'm only going to the places where there are no NPCs. I'm only using IV frame 1
To check if I'm hitting my seed I just go to pokecheck. That PID%6 just sucker punched my brain, I'm lost lol.

You can use Pokecheck without saving, can you? That's handy. And does that show you the actual PID? I might have to try it.


It's taking forever to search for a near flawless or flawless seed. I have it set to min/max=1 and 31 IV in everything but speed which I left blank.
Hex31 shinies are hard to find. You really need to enable 3 key-presses and be patient.
I usually find about 12 in any one year.


Yes via the c-gear method (http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3159941&postcount=2). It's much more difficult than non c-gear and you'll need about 25 rare candies (maybe less if you use the hidden power guy in Mistralton and the subway judge with metalkids calculator) or an AR.

I've read you can only catch male DW pokemon using C-Gear. That doesn't make sense to me because the Pokemon in my Entree Forests are almost all female. It's let me a bit puzzled.

Can you do C-Gear RNGing with an AR cart inserted?

BigWhite
13th September 2011, 5:30 AM
You can use Pokecheck without saving, can you? That's handy. And does that show you the actual PID? I might have to try it.

You can't use pokecheck without saving since it connects to the GTS. It shows the PID but not the frame? You or someone else would have to look as I wouldn't know exactly what I was looking at lol.

**Edit** ^This is what kept messing me up. I was uploading to pokecheck to check IVs so my PIDframes were all out of whack. Noobing it up here.


Hex31 shinies are hard to find. You really need to enable 3 key-presses and be patient.
I usually find about 12 in any one year.

I have 2 keypresses and just found a 31/31/31/31/31/22 seed. <-- I'm dumb. Great, terrible nearby shiny frame lol. It's at 33 and I got too excited at finally finding a good seed lol. At least I can get a decent pokes with it that aren't shiny.

My first shiny. Crap IVs I know but I just wanted to make sure I could hit the seed and PID frame just fine.

#619 Mienfoo http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq296/Stealth96Si/619.gif
Lv. 33 Nature: Serious Ability: Regenerator
31/31/0/10/27/16
Dragonspiral Tower

jolteon135
13th September 2011, 6:27 AM
I've read you can only catch male DW pokemon using C-Gear. That doesn't make sense to me because the Pokemon in my Entree Forests are almost all female. It's let me a bit puzzled.

Can you do C-Gear RNGing with an AR cart inserted?
I think what you read was that "It's only worth it to RNG male only DW Pokemon in the entralink." That's mostly true. Non c-gear breeding is much easier than entralink RNGing so if it's available as a female you should take the easier route and breed for it.

Yes you can do c-gear RNGing with an AR inserted.

TDawg
13th September 2011, 6:44 AM
It's a shame that's the only way to RNG entree forest pokes. -_- Well for the event only males. I want those events to come to US so bad . I need an HP Fire DW Bulba ASAP. lol

Kailassa
13th September 2011, 8:01 AM
You can't use pokecheck without saving since it connects to the GTS. It shows the PID but not the frame? You or someone else would have to look as I wouldn't know exactly what I was looking at lol.

**Edit** ^This is what kept messing me up. I was uploading to pokecheck to check IVs so my PIDframes were all out of whack. Noobing it up here.
LOL, now you know why the %6 method is useful. ;)
It's really quite simple. Just follow the instructions a few times and it will be easy as falling off a log.

I love the word "noob". It really describes what we all go through when learning something new.



I have 2 keypresses and just found a 31/31/31/31/31/22 seed. <-- I'm dumb. Great, terrible nearby shiny frame lol. It's at 33 and I got too excited at finally finding a good seed lol. At least I can get a decent pokes with it that aren't shiny.
Disappointing, isn't it. I've squealed in glee on finding a frame one shiny seed, only to find it's useless.
If you can use 2 key-presses you can use 3 just as easily. And it really expands your possibilities. If you're worried about the time it takes, just keep Reporter running while you do other things, and every 15 - 60 minutes, (depending on the speed of your computer,) try the next month. I've looked through 4 years of seeds that way for a flawless, shiny, frame 1 roamer seed, and only found one that might be useful ... but there are lots more years to go.



I think what you read was that "It's only worth it to RNG male only DW Pokemon in the entralink." That's mostly true. Non c-gear breeding is much easier than entralink RNGing so if it's available as a female you should take the easier route and breed for it.
That makes sense.
But being a collector at heart, I'd love to have perfect specimens of all the Dream World pokemon untouched and in Dream Balls. - probably more work than I'll get around to though. I've got 160 pokemon spread around between 3 Entree forests now, mostly female, mostly different.
- And I'm still lacking 12 females ...


Yes you can do c-gear RNGing with an AR inserted.
That's handy to know, thanks. I wonder if there's a code for seeing PIDs.

jolteon135
13th September 2011, 9:17 AM
That's handy to know, thanks. I wonder if there's a code for seeing PIDs.
Probably not. The PIDs are stored in a bunch of different places. Wild Pokemon, Roamers, eggs, the gift Zoroark (and many more) all have their PIDs stored in different memory locations so you'd have to make separate codes for each of them and those codes wouldn't really be useful for RNGing because you can't manipulate the PIDRNG via the c-gear method and you can't use an AR with non c-gear.

BigWhite
13th September 2011, 11:06 AM
After a little bit more searching I have found myself a flawless seed but it doesn't have a sync nature but I can live with it. Here's what a picked up first with it as a test run. I'm searching for a sync nature now. This thread has been a great help along with jolteon's videos.


Golett | OT: Matt http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq296/Stealth96Si/622.gif
Lv. 32 | Bold | Klutz | Dragonspiral Tower
31/31/31/31/31/31| HP: Dark 70

wearjo
13th September 2011, 2:49 PM
I really should find some spare time that I can RNG something in :/

darthmalice777
13th September 2011, 4:44 PM
Since I like both sprites for this poke, I decided to take a non-shiny one this time....


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Kyurem | OT: Malice
Timid | Pressure | Caught 9/13/11 | Giant Chasm
Glaciate | Ice Beam | Hidden Power | Draco Meteor
31/30/31/30/31/30 - Hidden Power Fire (70)

addman999
13th September 2011, 8:05 PM
Hey, I was wondering if RNGing your trainer ID does anything apart from giving you a shiny starter, can you get more flawless shinies if you do this?
Also how easy is it to do? because i dont really understand any of the guides on this

darthmalice777
13th September 2011, 8:16 PM
Hey, I was wondering if RNGing your trainer ID does anything apart from giving you a shiny starter, can you get more flawless shinies if you do this?
Also how easy is it to do? because i dont really understand any of the guides on this

You can also use it to get a good seed if you plan to RNG the roamer in your game. It's fairly straight-forward, it tells when to turn on the game in order to get a specific ID.

UltimateVictini
13th September 2011, 9:37 PM
I know a little about RNGing but i dont really know how to use it honestly..... can some1 here who knows how to do it PM me and help me? after all this is a help thread.

addman999
13th September 2011, 10:14 PM
You can also use it to get a good seed if you plan to RNG the roamer in your game. It's fairly straight-forward, it tells when to turn on the game in order to get a specific ID.]
Yeah but how do you find out what ID is best to get a shiny starter and help catch a good roamer?
Also on a different note does anyone near the best routes to catch wild pokemon that have no npc's or npc's who move in a pattern so its easy to work out how far to advance the PID?

Too Funk to Druck
13th September 2011, 10:19 PM
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Yeah but how do you find out what ID is best to get a shiny starter and help catch a good roamer?
Also on a different note does anyone near the best routes to catch wild pokemon that have no npc's or npc's who move in a pattern so its easy to work out how far to advance the PID?

Here:
Wellspring Cave (1F-B1F)
Rumination Field (For the sake of being thorough)
Relic Castle (1F-B6F)
Lostlorn Forest
Chargestone Cave (B1F)
Celestial Tower (3F-5F)
Twist Mountain (Cave with Exit to Icirrus City)
Route 17*
P2 Laboratory*
Mistralton Cave (2F-Guidance Chamber)
Dragonspiral Tower Entrance (North of Icirrus City, not the area with the bridge)
Dragonspiral Tower Interior (1F-2F)
Route 9
Route 10 (South of Victory Road; the third area of the Badge Check Gates)
Victory Road (1F1, 1F2, 1F3, 2F2, 5F, 7F)
Victory Road (Exterior)
Trial Chamber
Marvelous Bridge
Giant Chasm (Outside)
Giant Chasm (Outer Cave)
Giant Chasm (Inner Cave; including Kyurem’s Cave)
Challenger’s Cave (1F)

It's right in the first post for future reference.

ProjectTitan313
13th September 2011, 10:37 PM
welp, lucky me I got another roadblock/probable mental fail. But thanks for the help on my previous issue guys, it helped me work it out :D

I am able to hit my seed, I verified as I hit date/time/keypresses and got the exact same larvesta 3 times. I am breeding for Larvesta (not the gift one) and when I hit the seed, the egg I hatch matches none of the results in the main reporter page. Is it supposed to match just the nature/gender, because the stats are not even close. The target has 31/31/31/30/31/31 (HP Elect) and none of these eggs I hatch on the seed have more than one or two 31's according to subway judge. The results, I should at worst have 3 31's on any of the spreads assuming it inherits bad stats from the male.

So basically I can't find my starting frame as I cannot get an egg that matches on my seed. Any additional info, I can give.

darthmalice777
13th September 2011, 10:42 PM
Here's two more I got done today. Man, Larvesta was a huge pain in the *** for some reason....stupid NPCs.


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Terrakion | OT: Malice
Adamant | Justified | Caught: 9/13/11 | Trial Chamber
Helping Hand | Retaliate | Rock Slide | Sacred Sword
31/31/31/x/31/31

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Volcarona | OT: Malice
Bold | Flame Body | Hatched: 9/13/11 | Route 3
Quiver Dance | Fiery Dance | Bug Buzz | Morning Sun
31/x/31/31/31/31

Too Funk to Druck
13th September 2011, 10:57 PM
I might be back in business:



http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/133.gifhttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/196.gif
http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png
Eevee/Espeon|Gender: M
OT: Ayumi~<3 | ID: 02999
Timid | Hatched: 10/7/11 | Route 3
Ability: Anticipation
Curse | Wish | Stored Power | Yawn
31/31/30/30/30/30
HP Fighting 70
This was supposed to celebrate winning our first band competition Saturday, but my computer was super-uncooperative, and I ended up having to manually copy, and type in my seeds. <.< Ah well. I've been wanting a shiny Espeon.

jolteon135
14th September 2011, 1:45 AM
I know a little about RNGing but i dont really know how to use it honestly..... can some1 here who knows how to do it PM me and help me? after all this is a help thread.
Exactly, this thread is for help. We're not your personal tutors. Put some effort into it and ask questions here if you get stuck.


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Yeah but how do you find out what ID is best to get a shiny starter and help catch a good roamer?
Choose a non-shiny seed/PID frame then use pandora's box to find an ID/SID that makes your target PID frame shiny.


welp, lucky me I got another roadblock/probable mental fail. But thanks for the help on my previous issue guys, it helped me work it out :D

I am able to hit my seed, I verified as I hit date/time/keypresses and got the exact same larvesta 3 times. I am breeding for Larvesta (not the gift one) and when I hit the seed, the egg I hatch matches none of the results in the main reporter page. Is it supposed to match just the nature/gender, because the stats are not even close. The target has 31/31/31/30/31/31 (HP Elect) and none of these eggs I hatch on the seed have more than one or two 31's according to subway judge. The results, I should at worst have 3 31's on any of the spreads assuming it inherits bad stats from the male.

So basically I can't find my starting frame as I cannot get an egg that matches on my seed. Any additional info, I can give.
Did you use the shiny egg tab? The shiny egg tab doesn't show you your seed IVs. To find your seed IVs you need to choose method 5 (standard seed)/gift Pokemon in the main window and look at frame 8. Also make sure you have Ditto parent checked if you're using a Ditto.

addman999
14th September 2011, 2:11 AM
So if I search for a flawless frame 8 (gift pokemon) on the time finder and its not shiny, i can use pandoras box to make this shiny? And on restarting the game, if i use the yes no name conversation with the prof to advance PID, this would get me a flawless shiny starter?

jolteon135
14th September 2011, 3:19 AM
So if I search for a flawless frame 8 (gift pokemon) on the time finder and its not shiny, i can use pandoras box to make this shiny?
Yes but why would you do that? Gift Pokemon start on IV frame 1 except for the Larvesta egg and regular eggs. Shiny egg seeds are easy to find so there's no point in RNGing your ID/SID for an egg.


And on restarting the game, if i use the yes no name conversation with the prof to advance PID, this would get me a flawless shiny starter?
Saying "no" to Juniper is to advance the frame for your ID/SID. After you get the ID you would save and RNG the starter. Why don't you RNG the starter from an egg instead of restarting your game?

BigWhite
14th September 2011, 3:52 AM
I know a little about RNGing but i dont really know how to use it honestly..... can some1 here who knows how to do it PM me and help me? after all this is a help thread.

It's really not that hard. If you read through the first couple posts then watch some of the videos you'll be able to rng anything you want.

ProjectTitan313
14th September 2011, 4:18 AM
Did you use the shiny egg tab? The shiny egg tab doesn't show you your seed IVs. To find your seed IVs you need to choose method 5 (standard seed)/gift Pokemon in the main window and look at frame 8. Also make sure you have Ditto parent checked if you're using a Ditto.

Yes that was the tab I was using. I set it to method 5 (standard) as you said, and that looks more like something I can use. I hit the seed (at least, think I did) and the egg did not match frame 8 (or any other frame), so did I miss the seed or perhaps Timer0 got me? And I do not see natures/gender/ability on the method 5 tab, when I'm matching the the egg to frame 8 are they relevent?

I have ditto and and the box checked, yes :3

darthmalice777
14th September 2011, 4:20 AM
Last one for the night, classic SubPunch set....


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Breloom | OT: Malice
Adamant | Poison Heal | Hatched: 9/13/11 | Route 3
Substitute | Focus Punch | Spore | Seed Bomb
31/31/31/x/31/31

jolteon135
14th September 2011, 4:22 AM
Yes that was the tab I was using. I set it to method 5 (standard) as you said, and that looks more like something I can use. I hit the seed (at least, think I did) and the egg did not match frame 8 (or any other frame), so did I miss the seed or perhaps Timer0 got me? And I do not see natures/gender/ability on the method 5 tab, when I'm matching the the egg to frame 8 are they relevent?

I have ditto and and the box checked, yes :3
You're only supposed to look at frame 8 to figure out your seed IVs. Breeding BW is the method you're supposed to use for the PID info. watch this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYCr1U-Cxpg&feature=channel_video_title)

K1LL3RxP0P7aRt
14th September 2011, 5:01 AM
Got my First RNG'd Shiny last night

Tynamo
Brave
31/31/31/x/31/x
Shiny

:D

Sonikku za Hejjihoggu
14th September 2011, 5:20 AM
Got my First RNG'd Shiny last night

Tynamo
Brave
31/31/31/x/31/x
Shiny

:D

Did you just troll yourself?

K1LL3RxP0P7aRt
14th September 2011, 5:29 AM
Did you just troll yourself?

Haters. -_-

BigWhite
14th September 2011, 7:37 AM
Still just messing around and catching random things before I start trying for flawless/shiny eggs.

http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq296/Stealth96Si/632.gif
Durant OT: Matt
Lv. 41 | Lax | Swarm
31/31/31/28/31/28

addman999
14th September 2011, 1:47 PM
Ok i need help, i restarted my game so i could get a shiny starter but i cant seem to get it to work.
I found a flawless seed on my game, i then put this into rng reporters main window like i normally would but changed ecounter method to gift pokemon, I found a frame that i wanted (49), so then i went into pandoras box and pasted the seed and chose frame as 49.
it gave me a list of results all with initial frame 28, the first shiny was on 31 with trainer ID 54418 and starter was true, i hit the seed ,did 3 advances by saying no to my name then when i got my tepig it wasnt shiny. but i had the correct trainer id.
What have i done wrong here?