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Shadow_Assailant
8th November 2011, 4:36 PM
Chiizu, it feels awesome to have your approval. I'm glad that, for the most part, I got it right. I'll write up a more comprehensive guide, when I have the time, with all the information you provided. Thanks and have a good one. :)

*edit* Shadow, hit your original seed (the one you got from the beginning). Hold your key presses, if any. Advance your frames and you should be good to go. And as Chiizu stated, it has to be from IV Frame 1.

Thanks for your help, Chiizu. :D

@droth: Okay. This is my problem: like I said I'm drawing a blank. I'm used to (when egg RNGing) to find the starting PID Frame with the egg searcher under Standard Seed Inspector, and then taking the target PID Frame and subtracting that by my starting frame. Would I do a similar thing here, or would I just save 116 (my target frame) times? Also, the day the seed was on was 5/9/2011. My computer froze and I had to force shut it down. Now I can't find the same seed on the same day (I double checked a few times to make sure my search is the same)...

drothagreat0ne
8th November 2011, 4:56 PM
Go to Seed Inspector. Switch the option to Starter/Gift/Fossil. Find out your starting Frame and then find where your Target frame is. Subtract them and that is the number of times you save. So yeah, it's like doing advances for eggs, but a whole lot easier.

Shadow_Assailant
8th November 2011, 5:04 PM
Go to Seed Inspector. Switch the option to Starter/Gift/Fossil. Find out your starting Frame and then find where your Target frame is. Subtract them and that is the number of times you save. So yeah, it's like doing advances for eggs, but a whole lot easier.

Alright. I'll try it out sometime before I go to bed tonight (I can't stop thinking about MW3, lol, so I'm going to be sucked into playing it when school is over. Posting from my iPod FTW!).

TDawg
9th November 2011, 12:11 AM
I am finally RNGing my event Zoroark. -_- I hate the quirky nature on it.

Hamon_Warrior
9th November 2011, 2:27 AM
GL mate. Wish I had a capable router to get one =/

I'm new to this and watching bearsfan's tutorial for the 2nd time, currently awaiting my results.

I'm about to go after Virizion after catching a few times and not being satisfied. It is getting kind of late though, but I don't want to wait until tomorrow night for less of a headache. =/

Too Funk to Druck
9th November 2011, 3:52 AM
First breeds from me in over a month because of band/school/no DS. Also, first breeds on Black:


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Ralts/Kirlia/Gallade|Gender: ♂
OT: Ayumi~* | ID: 13423
Adamant | Hatched: 10/9/2011| Victory Road
Ability: Synchronize(Steadfast)
Growl|Shadow Sneak|Destiny Bond|Confuse Ray|
31/31/31/4/31/31

This was supposed to be celebrating winning State Championships, hence being in Victory Road, but I had so much trouble with the Timer0 using my friend's old DS, and the fact that I had to find a male seed, I just chose a random date instead of the actual date of championships. It ended up taking me like a week to get this.

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Ralts/Kirlia/Gardevoir|Gender: ♀
OT: Ayumi~* | ID: 13423
Timid | Hatched: 10/24/2011| Unity Tower
Ability: Trace
Growl|Shadow Sneak|Destiny Bond|Confuse Ray|
31/6/31/31/31/31

Not much to say about this. Just decided to go for it since I had a Ralts in the daycare.

I was hoping to have a third breed, but I can't find a seed on the right date, and I can't settle on anything other than the date I want. I guess I'll try again tomorrow.

Hamon_Warrior
9th November 2011, 4:07 AM
Hey nice! Reminds me of when I used an Adamant Gallade evolved from the Ralts I got in a trade in Platinum... It was a large part of the reason I liked the BU set so much... Sadly I don't have it anymore. >_<

Well I got my results, two of them, and... damn. I'm going for HP Ice (with either Naive or Hasty), and the initial IVs (30 in Attack & Defense) yielded too great a frame. I'm going to have to tinker with the less necessary IVs some =/

drothagreat0ne
9th November 2011, 5:34 AM
These are my first two Egg RNG'ed Pokemon since restarting my Black version. I can't wait to put them to use.



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#495 Snivy | http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/type/grass.gif | ♀ | http://serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/pokeball.png | http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png
Nature: Timid | Ability: Overgrow | Characteristic: Capable of taking hits.
Date: 01/13/2012 | Hatched: Skyarrow Bridge
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31 | Egg Moves: Glare



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#509 Purrloin | http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/type/dark.gif | ♂ | http://serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/pokeball.png | http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png
Nature: Jolly | Ability: Unburden | Characteristic: Mischievous.
Date: 12/17/2011 | Hatched: Dreamyard
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31 | Egg Moves: Foul Play, Torment

Shadow_Assailant
9th November 2011, 5:39 AM
These are my first two Egg RNG'ed Pokemon since restarting my Black version. I can't wait to put them to use.



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#495 Snivy | http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/type/grass.gif | ♀ | http://serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/pokeball.png
Nature: Timid | Ability: Overgrow | Characteristic: Capable of taking hits.
Date: 01/13/2012 | Hatched: Skyarrow Bridge
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31 | Egg Moves: Glare



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#509 Purrloin | http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/type/dark.gif | ♂ | http://serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/pokeball.png
Nature: Jolly | Ability: Unburden | Characteristic: Mischievous.
Date: 12/17/2011 | Hatched: Dreamyard
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31 | Egg Moves: Foul Play, Torment

Nice job, droth. :D

And I realized what you meant when you said that the Starter RNGing target frame is going to be a little higher than what the seed says (yeah, I don't understand what I just typed myself, but maybe you do). The seed in Standard Seed Searcher says 116, but I need to hit 120 for my seed.

drothagreat0ne
9th November 2011, 5:42 AM
Nice job, droth. :D

And I realized what you meant when you said that the Starter RNGing target frame is going to be a little higher than what the seed says (yeah, I don't understand what I just typed myself, but maybe you do). The seed in Standard Seed Searcher says 116, but I need to hit 120 for my seed.

Thanks. :)

That's awesome. I can't wait for you to post that shiny Tepig. Good luck in the rest of the process.

Shadow_Assailant
9th November 2011, 5:52 AM
Thanks. :)

That's awesome. I can't wait for you to post that shiny Tepig. Good luck in the rest of the process.

My God, this saving is tedious. It becomes even more frustrating when you're at 61 of 77 and you accidently press A on the box...

TDawg
9th November 2011, 5:58 AM
My God, this saving is tedious. It becomes even more frustrating when you're at 61 of 77 and you accidently press A on the box...

Lol sorry about that, Shadow. Don't worry you'll get it. Honestly though you should have RNGed your ID/SID for Tornadus/Thundurus because you can always easily get a RNGd Tepig. But that's just my opinion

Shadow_Assailant
9th November 2011, 6:11 AM
Lol sorry about that, Shadow. Don't worry you'll get it. Honestly though you should have RNGed your ID/SID for Tornadus/Thundurus because you can always easily get a RNGd Tepig. But that's just my opinion

That would've been a good idea... Oh well.

And, OMFG. Rage! D: I just did it saved 77 times. Come to find out, I only saved 76 times... :'[

*Edit: I'm trying 1 more time then got to go to bed. ._.

drothagreat0ne
9th November 2011, 6:15 AM
That would've been a good idea... Oh well.

And, OMFG. Rage! D: I just did it saved 77 times. Come to find out, I only saved 76 times... :'[

*Edit: I'm trying 1 more time then got to go to bed. ._.

I'm here at the edge of my seat. :D

TDawg
9th November 2011, 6:30 AM
Wow that must be annoying. Maybe you should mark each save as it's happening

Shadow_Assailant
9th November 2011, 7:13 AM
So yeah... Hit my seed. Got the right nature and gender (and I'm assuming IVs), but it's not shiny. I did a few tests and I'm pretty sure my TID/SID combo isn't capable of making a shiny Pokémon. -.-

*Edit: And it would only make sense that they aren't because when I searched for my original seed to start the whole process, I found the seed on the 9th of May. Then, later, when I had to go back and find the seed again in Standard Seed Searcher because my computer froze, it would make sense why the seed didn't come up again under Standard Seed Searcher. I just erased the TID and SID from my config and searched for the seed; I found it. ._.

drothagreat0ne
9th November 2011, 7:17 AM
:(

I know it sucks, but if you have to, start over.

TDawg
9th November 2011, 7:18 AM
Oh wow that's terrible luck right there. Well now you can go with my idea for the roaming Genie!^^

Anyways... Well I don't like this event all that much to be honest.


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#571 Zoroark | http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/type/dark.gif | ♂ | http://serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/cherishball.png
Nature: Quirky (-_- ) | Ability: Illusion | Characteristic: Somewhat Vain.
Date: 11/16/2011 | Apparently had a Fateful encounter | Met at Lvl. 50
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31| Note: EVENT11 Zoroark

Shadow_Assailant
9th November 2011, 7:23 AM
:(

I know it sucks, but if you have to, start over.

Oh well. At least now I know how to RNG my TID/SID for the future thanks to you, droth. :D

@TDawg: I guess I will now. :P What do you think a good IV spread/nature would be for Tornadus (that's who you were referring to, right?)? I'm still not that good with making competitive Pokémon sets and also deciding which IV spreads and nature are best for a Pokémon. ._.

And at least that Zoroak is flawless. :D Is that the one that knows Snarl?

TDawg
9th November 2011, 7:26 AM
A good spread for that guy would be a Naive or Timid nature with an IV spread of 31/30/30/31/31/31 to give him HP Ice. Gives him good coverage and takes out things like Dragonite and Gliscor. Or if you want to go with the VGC set you can always have a Jolly flawless spread.

Shadow_Assailant
9th November 2011, 7:32 AM
A good spread for that guy would be a Naive or Timid nature with an IV spread of 31/30/30/31/31/31 to give him HP Ice. Gives him good coverage and takes out things like Dragonite and Gliscor. Or if you want to go with the VGC set you can always have a Jolly flawless spread.

Alright. I put those specs in PPRNG. When I find a good seed, I'm going to check everything over first to make sure I will get a reliable TID/SID combo, and then I will start over. :D

*Edit: @droth: I have a question about the TID/SID RNG process. After you get the seed from Standard Seed Inspector, copy, and then paste it into the Trainer ID Searcher, does it really matter which Target PID (as PPRNG calls it) I choose from the top box of PID Frames? (In case you don't understand, I'm talking about the spot of the process where you typed in your guide about how you're picking a certain PID Frame just for the matter of the seed.)

TDawg
9th November 2011, 7:34 AM
Make sure it's a roaming seed too! I am not sure if you have to do that but just make sure to be safe and not waste your time

Shadow_Assailant
9th November 2011, 7:38 AM
Make sure it's a roaming seed too! I am not sure if you have to do that but just make sure to be safe and not waste your time

I'm nearly 100% sure that at this point in time, I don't need to specify the seed is going to be for a roaming Pokémon.

TDawg
9th November 2011, 7:40 AM
Oh alright haha I haven't RNGed my ID/SID for 5th Gen. And...


And at least that Zoroak is flawless. :D Is that the one that knows Snarl?

Yes it would be that one! lol :p I have one waiting for me on Black but there's no point for it because the Nature lock.

drothagreat0ne
9th November 2011, 7:42 AM
Alright. I put those specs in PPRNG. When I find a good seed, I'm going to check everything over first to make sure I will get a reliable TID/SID combo, and then I will start over. :D

*Edit: @droth: I have a question about the TID/SID RNG process. After you get the seed from Standard Seed Inspector, copy, and then paste it into the Trainer ID Searcher, does it really matter which Target PID (as PPRNG calls it) I choose from the top box of PID Frames? (In case you don't understand, I'm talking about the spot of the process where you typed in your guide about how you're picking a certain PID Frame just for the matter of the seed.)

Well, I wrote that because I wasn't sure what that was going to affect. Chiizu pointed out that you should find one that allows you to abuse every type of RNG possible. When I originally did it, I did not know that. So far every thing has been working out. I hoping the roamer does as well.

Shadow_Assailant
9th November 2011, 7:42 AM
Oh alright haha I haven't RNGed my ID/SID for 5th Gen. And...



Yes it would be that one! lol :p I have one waiting for me on Black but there's no point for it because the Nature lock.

Do you think it'd be possible for me to get a baby Zorua that knows Snarl? :D

@droth: Okay. Will try. :D

TDawg
9th November 2011, 7:47 AM
Do you think it'd be possible for me to get a baby Zorua that knows Snarl? :D

@droth: Okay. Will try. :D

Lol yeah I can probably get you one. But it might be better if you just sketch it with smeargle because then you have a Snarl, Dark Pulse, and Extrasensory Zorua. That's what I got :p

Shadow_Assailant
9th November 2011, 7:56 AM
Lol yeah I can probably get you one. But it might be better if you just sketch it with smeargle because then you have a Snarl, Dark Pulse, and Extrasensory Zorua. That's what I got :p

Sorry, but I don't quite get what you mean... Do you mean us going into a Wi-Fi battle and then I'll Sketch Snarl after you use it?

Hamon_Warrior
9th November 2011, 4:58 PM
As hard as it is to find a workable seed for a shiny, imagine going for Hidden Power as well -_-;

I haven't run into a shiny yet this game and hope I don't because I'm planning to restart soon. So I feel like it would put me off more till I RNG at least one.

I'm still working my kinks out and only found one decent seed for perfect offensive IVs plus HP Ice with a power of 69 so far. The Frame is 55... Dunno if I should go for better or not.

The Eleventh
9th November 2011, 7:00 PM
I really wish that I could have RNGed my ID and SID before I started my game. Now, there's basically no way for me to RNG a shiny Thundurus. Oh well, there's always the normal colouration. It's not that big of a deal anyway, however nice it would have been. It also makes it a lot easier to make sure that you've successfully RNGed the roamer, though, since it appears shiny in your Pokédex. What way is there to determine you've hit your PIDRNG frame without catching the roamer, since that can take some time, without use of a Master Ball. I guess there's the one-under method, but is there another way?

Sonikku za Hejjihoggu
9th November 2011, 7:30 PM
I've done plenty of shiny captures without ID/SID abuse. So it's not really impossible or anything... you just need to have patience with searching for such spreads.

The Eleventh
9th November 2011, 7:42 PM
The roamers in particular are quite difficult to RNG shiny, though, without ID/SID abuse.

TDawg
10th November 2011, 12:18 AM
Sorry, but I don't quite get what you mean... Do you mean us going into a Wi-Fi battle and then I'll Sketch Snarl after you use it?

Lol no I mean you find a pokemon that has snarl sketch that and the other moves and then that way you have a snarl zorua without the event. lol

pwnswitchclik
10th November 2011, 2:06 AM
I meant, of all the results found after pressing ''generate'', should I pick the one with the lowest frame, or that is just for the 'Reporter's main window?

BTW, two more things: Before I start using the program, should I put both pokemon in the Daycare, save and turn off the DS?

And should I get a flawless Solrock to guarantee the offspring's IV, or just the flawless ditto will do?

Still waiting for an answer, guys. -.-

Too Funk to Druck
10th November 2011, 2:18 AM
Still waiting for an answer, guys. -.-

1.I'm not quite sure what you're asking here.
2. yes. Have the daycare guy ready with an egg, and stand in front of him too. 3. A flawless Solrock and flawless Ditto will make it much easier to find seeds, but just a flawless Ditto will be fine.

Shadow_Assailant
10th November 2011, 4:12 AM
Lol no I mean you find a pokemon that has snarl sketch that and the other moves and then that way you have a snarl zorua without the event. lol

But the only Pokémon that can currently know Snarl is the event Zoroak, right?

Too Funk to Druck
10th November 2011, 4:27 AM
But the only Pokémon that can currently know Snarl is the event Zoroak, right?

Yes, but Smeargle can sketch it, and then breed it onto any Pokemon in its egg group.

And here's the third breed I planned on doing yesterday:


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#627 Rufflet | NN: Colbert | Gender: ♂
OT: Ayumi~* | ID: 13423
Adamant | Hatched: 7/4/2011| Liberty Garden
Ability: Sheer Force
Peck | Leer | Sky Drop
31/31/31/30/31/31

I was watching the Colbert Report yesterday, and decided I really wanted a Fourth of July Rufflet. Funny thing is, I'm not the most patriotic person you'd ever meet. Ah well. I've been wanting my own shiny Rufflet since I found out Rufflet existed.

TDawg
10th November 2011, 4:49 AM
Yes, but Smeargle can sketch it, and then breed it onto any Pokemon in its egg group.

And here's the third breed I planned on doing yesterday:


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#627 Rufflet | NN: Colbert | Gender: ♂
OT: Ayumi~* | ID: 13423
Adamant | Hatched: 7/4/2011| Liberty Garden
Ability: Sheer Force
Peck | Leer | Sky Drop
31/31/31/30/31/31

I was watching the Colbert Report yesterday, and decided I really wanted a Fourth of July Rufflet. Funny thing is, I'm not the most patriotic person you'd ever meet. Ah well. I've been wanting my own shiny Rufflet since I found out Rufflet existed.

Nice RNG TFTD. I like the date especially even though I'm not the most patriotic person either. I have wanted to RNG that thing forever but never get to it.

Shadow_Assailant
10th November 2011, 4:53 AM
Yes, but Smeargle can sketch it, and then breed it onto any Pokemon in its egg group.

And here's the third breed I planned on doing yesterday:


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#627 Rufflet | NN: Colbert | Gender: ♂
OT: Ayumi~* | ID: 13423
Adamant | Hatched: 7/4/2011| Liberty Garden
Ability: Sheer Force
Peck | Leer | Sky Drop
31/31/31/30/31/31

I was watching the Colbert Report yesterday, and decided I really wanted a Fourth of July Rufflet. Funny thing is, I'm not the most patriotic person you'd ever meet. Ah well. I've been wanting my own shiny Rufflet since I found out Rufflet existed.

Nice job, Funk! :D

But, then how do you propose I Sketch the move? I don't have a Zoroak of my own.

drothagreat0ne
10th November 2011, 4:55 AM
Colbert Nation stand up!

Nice RNG TFTD. I like Shiny Braviary.

edit* Shadow, there's always the chance of randomly getting it via Metronome.

Too Funk to Druck
10th November 2011, 5:01 AM
Nice job, Funk! :D

But, then how do you propose I Sketch the move? I don't have a Zoroak of my own.

You could find someone who would trade/lend you one. I can't think of any other ways.

And thanks guys. Colbert is love.

TDawg
10th November 2011, 5:04 AM
What's so good about snarl anyways? I don't see the potential in it.

Shadow_Assailant
10th November 2011, 5:21 AM
What's so good about snarl anyways? I don't see the potential in it.

I guess you're right seeing about how much of a big deal I'm making of it. :S I only wanted it because right now, unless by breeding (or sketching), there's only one way to get it, so I thought it would be cool to have. ._.

TDawg
10th November 2011, 5:39 AM
I guess you're right seeing about how much of a big deal I'm making of it. :S I only wanted it because right now, unless by breeding (or sketching), there's only one way to get it, so I thought it would be cool to have. ._.

Well I mean I am just thinking as a competitive battler. Because Dark Pulse has a better base power and it can make the oppenent flinch and Night Daze makes crits land easier while Snarl is weak and might lower the oppenent's special attack. And you would probably only see it on a Zoroark if anything so it ruins the Illusion. If I am wrong then correct me but that's how I am seeing it right now. lol

drothagreat0ne
10th November 2011, 5:53 AM
Well I mean I am just thinking as a competitive battler. Because Dark Pulse has a better base power and it can make the oppenent flinch and Night Daze makes crits land easier while Snarl is weak and might lower the oppenent's special attack. And you would probably only see it on a Zoroark if anything so it ruins the Illusion. If I am wrong then correct me but that's how I am seeing it right now. lol

Actually TDawg

When Snarl hits (it has a 95% accuracy), it is guaranteed to cause a Special Attack drop by 1 stage. And it hits all Pokemon on the opponent's side in Doubles.

TDawg
10th November 2011, 5:59 AM
Okay that makes it a little better then.

Shadow_Assailant
10th November 2011, 5:59 AM
Well I mean I am just thinking as a competitive battler. Because Dark Pulse has a better base power and it can make the oppenent flinch and Night Daze makes crits land easier while Snarl is weak and might lower the oppenent's special attack. And you would probably only see it on a Zoroark if anything so it ruins the Illusion. If I am wrong then correct me but that's how I am seeing it right now. lol

I see what you mean. I was looking at it from a "collector's" point of view. I'm not that good of a competitive battler (yet, because I hope to improve), so I really wasn't thinking of the move's technicalities. I do, though, need to start understanding this competitive battling and team building thing because in April, my school band is going on a trip to Missouri, and on the bus ride down, we're going to have double battle wi-fi tournament. I know I'd be able to impress by shininess and stats, but I still need to get a grasp on the competitive side of things. :S

drothagreat0ne
10th November 2011, 6:06 AM
I see what you mean. I was looking at it from a "collector's" point of view. I'm not that good of a competitive battler (yet, because I hope to improve), so I really wasn't thinking of the move's technicalities. I do, though, need to start understanding this competitive battling and team building thing because in April, my school band is going on a trip to Missouri, and on the bus ride down, we're going to have double battle wi-fi tournament. I know I'd be able to impress by shininess and stats, but I still need to get a grasp on the competitive side of things. :S

Please, please! (I think one more time) please! try to win with your favorites. I know it can be a hard thing to do, but the satisfaction you'll get from battling with your favorites is undeniable.

TDawg: It does, however, the move is weak. Unless you have a Special boost already (Nasty Plot, etc.), it really won't be dealing much damage.

TDawg
10th November 2011, 6:13 AM
Yeah even then idk why you wouldn't go for a Dark pulse or Focus blast or extrasensory at that point.

And Shadow have you battled at all before?

Shadow_Assailant
10th November 2011, 6:21 AM
@TDawg: I have done some PO in the past, but the team I used, I didn't make. I took the idea from someone else and literally plugged it right into PO. The bad thing about doing that, though, is that the team was way unrealistic; Chlorophyll Venusaur with Growth and Heatran. Everything was possible, but those two right there really aren't (Heatran is arguable, but I can't 4th Gen RNG).

@Droth: Lol. I will. :P I actually just read a guys signature over at Team Sea Soul talking about how no Pokémon is weak or the best, it's just the way the trainer uses them (along those lines). I was really hoping to have a Sawsbuck on my team with Swords Dance, Return, Nature Power, and Horn Leech, but Sawsbuck is most effective under sun. I wouldn't mind running a sun team, but they seem so unpopular, at least from my perspective...

TDawg
10th November 2011, 6:45 AM
@TDawg: I have done some PO in the past, but the team I used, I didn't make. I took the idea from someone else and literally plugged it right into PO. The bad thing about doing that, though, is that the team was way unrealistic; Chlorophyll Venusaur with Growth and Heatran. Everything was possible, but those two right there really aren't (Heatran is arguable, but I can't 4th Gen RNG).

@Droth: Lol. I will. :P I actually just read a guys signature over at Team Sea Soul talking about how no Pokémon is weak or the best, it's just the way the trainer uses them (along those lines). I was really hoping to have a Sawsbuck on my team with Swords Dance, Return, Nature Power, and Horn Leech, but Sawsbuck is most effective under sun. I wouldn't mind running a sun team, but they seem so unpopular, at least from my perspective...

Sun and Rain run the metagame. They are very popular. Sawsbuck I have tried using and just gets outclassed by too much imo. There is a trade thread where you can get those pokemon ya know ;) Honestly though you see sun everywhere.

drothagreat0ne
10th November 2011, 7:02 AM
An Exeggutor with Harvest, holding a Sitrus berry, under the sun, is a beast.

TDawg
10th November 2011, 7:03 AM
Yeah and a SD victreebel is as well.

EDIT: A new one for the collection. I prefer a male for Darmi because it just looks like one, but I hit the seed in one shot so not complaining.


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#554 Darumaka | http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/type/fire.gif | ♀ | http://serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/pokeball.png
Nature: Adamant | Ability: Hustle (Sheer Force) | Characteristic: Often dozes off.
Date: 11/03/2011 | Hatched: Skyarrow Bridge | Met at Lvl. 1
IVs: 31/31/31/x/31/31| Egg Moves: None

drothagreat0ne
10th November 2011, 7:47 AM
Is it possible to RNG the statues outside of Relic Castle?

Shadow_Assailant
10th November 2011, 1:59 PM
Is it possible to RNG the statues outside of Relic Castle?

I would think so, but I once tried to RNG Maractus and I could never hit my seed... While Maractus isn't a statue, it still didn't work (for me) in the Resort...

Huh... I was surprised when you said Sawsbuck gets outclassed. I thought he was pretty good. But if what you guys say about Victreebell, then I could easily make the change. Do either of you think you could help me make a team seeing as I'm kind of inexperienced? :S

Kalosian
10th November 2011, 2:03 PM
Is it possible to RNG the statues outside of Relic Castle?
Yes, it is. I have RNGed two of them. Just make sure you remove the sandstorm in the area before starting.

Tarro57
10th November 2011, 2:14 PM
Yes, it is. I have RNGed two of them. Just make sure you remove the sandstorm in the area before starting.

AHA! I knew I forgot something when I was trying to teach my friend how to RNG, darn, no wonder it took to long, still haven't gotten it and probably made a fool of myself infront of my friend showing him I do that but not succeeding...

Zak Attack XIII
10th November 2011, 7:28 PM
Could somebody PM me a link or video on how to Entralink Forest RNG, Please.
Thanks friends! = )

drothagreat0ne
10th November 2011, 7:45 PM
Watch this and get it down pat, then click on the second link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M26PvryQIA

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3159941&postcount=2

Hamon_Warrior
11th November 2011, 12:52 AM
Well I finally got a good Virizion after the first go, no extra saving, but it didn't have the HP Ice. These were the IVs:

18 / 31 / 23 / 31 / 6 / 31

Flawless offenses, and funnily enough it was Naive, but yeah. HP was Steel 70! I don't know what happened. I tossed a coin on it as I was tired and had mixed feelings, and so saved.

TDawg
11th November 2011, 3:12 AM
Well I finally got a good Virizion after the first go, no extra saving, but it didn't have the HP Ice. These were the IVs:

18 / 31 / 23 / 31 / 6 / 31

Flawless offenses, and funnily enough it was Naive, but yeah. HP was Steel 70! I don't know what happened. I tossed a coin on it as I was tired and had mixed feelings, and so saved.

Honestly that's not that good of a poke for an RNG. And IVs are what determine the hidden power

Shadow_Assailant
11th November 2011, 6:33 AM
Finding a seed for Tornadus is hard... I'm searching for Shiny, 31/30/30/31/31/31 IVs, and Naive nature. I have IV Frame set to 1 and I'm searching from PID Frames 50 - 1500... God forbid someone recommend increasing the PID Frame range...

This is off topic, but I was wondering if either of you guys would maybe help me build a competitive team seeing as I'm kind of inexperienced. :S

*Edit: Hey... I had an idea. If I caught a Synchronizer with the Naive nature, couldn't I then just make it so the nature can be anything and then make sure that the seed I choose is able to be effected by a Synchronizer?

jolteon135
11th November 2011, 7:19 AM
Finding a seed for Tornadus is hard... I'm searching for Shiny, 31/30/30/31/31/31 IVs, and Naive nature. I have IV Frame set to 1 and I'm searching from PID Frames 50 - 1500... God forbid someone recommend increasing the PID Frame range...

This is off topic, but I was wondering if either of you guys would maybe help me build a competitive team seeing as I'm kind of inexperienced. :S

*Edit: Hey... I had an idea. If I caught a Synchronizer with the Naive nature, couldn't I then just make it so the nature can be anything and then make sure that the seed I choose is able to be effected by a Synchronizer?

You can't hit PID frame 50 for a roamer. 450 is approximately the lowest you can hit and to hit frame that low you need to choose a month where there's no weather on route 7 before the roamer arrives (obviously you can't avoid the rain from the roamer) and you need to make the season change before entering the house so that there's no season change when you exit.

Also synchronizers don't work on roamers because their nature is set before you battle them.

EDIT: You should have RNG'd your ID/SID for the roamer. You're probably going to searching for a long time. :|

Shadow_Assailant
11th November 2011, 7:23 AM
You can't hit PID frame 50 for a roamer. 450 is approximately the lowest you can hit and to hit frame that low you need to choose a month where there's no weather on route 7 before the roamer arrives (obviously you can't avoid the rain from the roamer) and you need to make the season change before entering the house so that there's no season change when you exit.

Also synchronizers don't work on roamers because their nature is set before you battle them.

EDIT: You should have RNG'd your ID/SID for the roamer. You're probably going to searching for a long time. :|

I'm trying to RNG my ID/SID right now. I'm doing it specifically for Tornadus.

By a month with no weather, you mean like a month that corresponds with Summer?

jolteon135
11th November 2011, 7:32 AM
I'm trying to RNG my ID/SID right now. I'm doing it specifically for Tornadus.

By a month with no weather, you mean like a month that corresponds with Summer?

I think summer should work. It worked for me though I've heard summer doesn't work for some people (no idea why). You should figure that out before restarting if you haven't already deleted your save file. Just go to route 7 and mess with the months/seasons to see what months/seasons it doesn't rain/snow.

The Eleventh
11th November 2011, 7:15 PM
I tried Entralink RNGing today. Holy crap it's difficult -- compared to standard abuse, at least. Well, the actual process isn't hard, it's just the hitting of your delay that mainly is. Entralink RNGing is also annoying due to the lack of Synchronize working. :/

Has anyone here successfully managed it?

Shizuka
11th November 2011, 11:28 PM
I tried Entralink RNGing today. Holy crap it's difficult -- compared to standard abuse, at least. Well, the actual process isn't hard, it's just the hitting of your delay that mainly is. Entralink RNGing is also annoying due to the lack of Synchronize working. :/

Has anyone here successfully managed it?

I've done it. Yeah, it is pretty hard. But hitting the delay is the hardest part. What frame is your IV's on? I think starting frame for Entralink RNG is 21.

The Eleventh
11th November 2011, 11:50 PM
I've done it. Yeah, it is pretty hard. But hitting the delay is the hardest part. What frame is your IV's on? I think starting frame for Entralink RNG is 21.
Yeah, 21 is the starting frame. Mine's 25, so I need to walk 128 steps with four Pokémon in my party.

MSK
12th November 2011, 12:12 AM
Can someone help me with RNg breeding!! I've read all the Smogon stuff and watched the video's but have seen 2 different methods and want to know which in everyone here's opinion is best?
The first is using the 4th/5th Gen shiny egg tab, entering my poke's IV's etc,
The second is finding a gift spread and using that.
So which is easiest for getting a shiny near flawless poke with egg moves?

TDawg
12th November 2011, 12:42 AM
Well egg moves are really irrelevant to a seed. So as long as the daddy has em forget about it. And personally I like the 4th/5th Gen shiny egg tab the most.

pwnswitchclik
12th November 2011, 2:23 AM
Do those two pokemon chasing each other in the daycare count as NPCs? 'cause if they do, then how am I gonna figure out the frame advancement?

TDawg
12th November 2011, 2:36 AM
No they don't NPCs that have a set route won't advance your frame. That's why the bikers in route 9 don't. More specificly it's the WNPCs that advance your frame

Bjord
12th November 2011, 5:06 AM
Anyone know how to RNG for shiny Unown in the Ruins of Alph (HGSS)? I used method J with a target frame of 7. After calling elm 5 times to verify my seed, I sweet scented (sweet scent in caves/buildings should be a monster frame of 2), but the Unown was not shiny. I have tried this many times, including trying to sweet scent on frames 4 and 6, but nothing has worked so far, so I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

-edit-

Here's the smogon page saying sweet scent in caves/buildings = monster frame of 2: http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/dpp_rng_part4

jolteon135
12th November 2011, 5:16 AM
Do those two pokemon chasing each other in the daycare count as NPCs? 'cause if they do, then how am I gonna figure out the frame advancement?
I suggest you watch this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN1wz0_6800&feature=related). It's not related to eggs but it will show you how to find your starting frame in areas with NPCs.

For eggs it's really simple. Save in front of the daycare man, hit your seed, Mash X to bring up the menu as quickly as possible. Then exit the menu and grab the egg as quickly as possible (Press B then Mash A quickly). Hatch your egg and check for PID frame near your "Calculated Initial PIDRNG Frame" that matches your hatched baby. The matching frame is your actual starting frame/SSF.



Anyone know how to RNG for shiny Unown in the Ruins of Alph (HGSS)? I used method J with a target frame of 7. After calling elm 5 times to verify my seed, I sweet scented (sweet scent in caves/buildings should be a monster frame of 2), but the Unown was not shiny. I have tried this many times, including trying to sweet scent on frames 4 and 6, but nothing has worked so far, so I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

-edit-

Here's the smogon page saying sweet scent in caves/buildings = monster frame of 2: http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/dpp_rng_part4
HGSS uses method K and this thread is for 5th gen help. Go to smogon (http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52180) if you need 4th gen help.

EDIT: The link you posted is for DPPt not HGSS so you've been using the wrong info. Read through the first few posts in the thread linked above and watch the videos for the correct HGSS RNGing info.

Tarro57
12th November 2011, 2:38 PM
Gonna go after that Togepi again, I still haven't gotten it because I took a break since it was giving me extreme annoyance... Wish me luck!

TDawg
13th November 2011, 1:15 AM
Same pokes, different colors. I have been hitting non-stop in one try. Its crazy. November is apperantly my month.


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#133 Eevee | http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/type/normal.gif (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/type/psychic.gif) | ♀ | http://serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/pokeball.png
Nature: Timid | Ability: Anticipation (Magic Guard) | Characteristic: Often dozes off.
Date: 11/01/2011 | Hatched: Skyarrow Bridge | Met at Lvl. 1
IVs: 31/x/30/30/30/30 | Egg Moves: Wish & Stored Power

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#133 Eevee | http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/type/normal.gif (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/type/psychic.gif) | ♀ | http://serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/pokeball.png
Nature: Timid | Ability: Anticipation (Magic Guard) | Characteristic: Often dozes off.
Date: 11/03/2011 | Hatched: Skyarrow Bridge | Met at Lvl. 1
IVs: 31/x/30/30/30/30 | Egg Moves: Wish & Stored Power

misterdarvus
13th November 2011, 5:47 AM
Want to ask some question

Currently I'm trying to Entralink RNG (http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3159941&postcount=2), at step 13 it says to check the IV, is it okay if I leave Entralink to check the IV assuming I saved before entering Entralink?

Then, I found the pokemon IVs, I already followed the previous step about generating things and bla bla bla, at the same step (13) I entered the IVs, but it says the IV does not found, am I doing something wrong? I followed the steps carefuly, or maybe I hit at wrong timing at step (12)

Shadow_Assailant
13th November 2011, 8:15 AM
I've finally found a seed for my Tornadus, but I'm going to ahead and say 201 is too small of a PID Frame to use...

jolteon135
13th November 2011, 8:31 AM
Want to ask some question

Currently I'm trying to Entralink RNG (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=430446), at step 13 it says to check the IV, is it okay if I leave Entralink to check the IV assuming I saved before entering Entralink?

Then, I found the pokemon IVs, I already followed the previous step about generating things and bla bla bla, at the same step (13) I entered the IVs, but it says the IV does not found, am I doing something wrong? I followed the steps carefuly, or maybe I hit at wrong timing at step (12)
Your link leads to the SPPf signature rules which, I'm guessing, is not what you intended to link to.

Anyways, yes it's ok to leave the Entralink. Make sure you have delay: -/+999, seconds: -/+9 and make sure the IV frame range is wide enough in case you mess up the frame advancement. For example, if you're aiming for frame 30, set it as min frame=21 and max frame=40.

misterdarvus
13th November 2011, 9:37 AM
Your link leads to the SPPf signature rules which, I'm guessing, is not what you intended to link to.

Anyways, yes it's ok to leave the Entralink. Make sure you have delay: -/+999, seconds: -/+9 and make sure the IV frame range is wide enough in case you mess up the frame advancement. For example, if you're aiming for frame 30, set it as min frame=21 and max frame=40.
lol, yes I forgot to copy the link, I meant this (http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3159941&postcount=2)

I did both that frame thing, but I still can't find the IV, or just keep trying?

MSK
13th November 2011, 9:07 PM
I'm really struggling with RNG breeding. :(
I'm using the 4th/5th gen shiny egg tab. I have a female flawless deino which I RNG'd so have entered 31 in all the mother boxes. The father has Dark Pulse but I don't know the IV's so have left these blank.
On the right hand side I've put in that I'm looking for 31/X/31/31/31/31 spreads.
And as Eggs are generated on frame 8 I have set Min and Max frame to 8 ( I know it will limit results, but I have been getting a few and I'm happy to PDRNG advance).
So I'm saved in front of the guy, I do the usual set DS to time hit my seed and mash my way to pick up the egg as quick as possible, but when it's hatched the IV's don't match what they should be (and yes I have looked at which stats will be pulled from which parent) and are not even on an adjacent frame. So I'm a little confused lol
Be so much easier if I could RNG on gen IV but coin flipping is doing my head in!!

So can anyone offer advice? If need be I'll post a screen shot of my RNG reporter

*Just to say haven't tried to do the PDRNG advance yet just wanted to confirm IV's and work out SSF

Thanks :)

Too Funk to Druck
13th November 2011, 9:28 PM
I'm really struggling with RNG breeding. :(
I'm using the 4th/5th gen shiny egg tab. I have a female flawless deino which I RNG'd so have entered 31 in all the mother boxes. The father has Dark Pulse but I don't know the IV's so have left these blank.
On the right hand side I've put in that I'm looking for 31/X/31/31/31/31 spreads.
And as Eggs are generated on frame 8 I have set Min and Max frame to 8 ( I know it will limit results, but I have been getting a few and I'm happy to PDRNG advance).
So I'm saved in front of the guy, I do the usual set DS to time hit my seed and mash my way to pick up the egg as quick as possible, but when it's hatched the IV's don't match what they should be (and yes I have looked at which stats will be pulled from which parent) and are not even on an adjacent frame. So I'm a little confused lol
Be so much easier if I could RNG on gen IV but coin flipping is doing my head in!!

So can anyone offer advice? If need be I'll post a screen shot of my RNG reporter

*Just to say haven't tried to do the PDRNG advance yet just wanted to confirm IV's and work out SSF

Thanks :)

The shiny egg tab automatically returns results for IV frame 8. You can't change that. You're changing the PID frame.

MSK
13th November 2011, 9:41 PM
The shiny egg tab automatically returns results for IV frame 8. You can't change that. You're changing the PID frame.

Ah! So the Min / Max frame is actually for PID, so I should change that to around the 60-70 mark as min then.
Ok so if I set min as 60 and get some on 60 how will that then translate when I copy seed to main window?

The Eleventh
13th November 2011, 9:47 PM
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#419 Floatzel
OT: Cian | ID No.: 64231 | Gender: M
Nature: Jolly | Ability: Swift Swim | Type: Water
Hatch Location: Undella Bay | Hidden Power: Dark 70
Moves: Waterfall | Ice Fang | Brick Break | Crunch
IVs: 31/31/31/19/31/31

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#632 Durant
OT: Cian | ID No.: 64231 | Gender: M
Nature: Jolly | Ability: Swarm | Type: Bug/Steel
Hatch Location: Victory Road | Hidden Power: Dark 70
Moves: Hone Claws | X-Scissor | Iron Head | Rock Slide
IVs: 31/31/31/19/31/31

Both of these are for trading purposes. They were extremely easy to RNG, since I was able to use the same seed for both.

I've finally found a seed for my Tornadus, but I'm going to ahead and say 201 is too small of a PID Frame to use...
Yes, it is. :P

MSK
13th November 2011, 11:20 PM
Brilliant think I've finally figured it out!!
Set my min frame to 60 and got a few results one of which at frame 64 had 2 shiny frames at 64 and 66!! 64 mild (an acceptable nature for my Deino- willing to take the hit on defense) and 66 adamant (not brilliant as I want a SpA set-up)
On main window inputted and starting frame 48 so I hit my seed, hatched and it was actually frame 50 so assumed SSF was 50, restarted hit seed and chatot advanced 14 times. Hatched egg, shiny!! all good, checked nature Adamant!! :( so I'd gone 2 too far. How did that happen!!
Not too fussed though as this one now has better IV's than my original father so am going to put him in with mother and use same seed to get my Mild one (will just try 2 or maybe 1 less chatot advance) and hopefully he'll come out perfect :)

pwnswitchclik
14th November 2011, 12:17 AM
So I tried to RNG a flawless shiny solrock, and when it hatched, didn't came out shiny but I checked it's IV's and I got this:

http://milfotos.org/images/2fc7daa881fb8b2ee954afe1db26f278.JPG

I look at the IVs and ask "wtf"? Because my past RNG acts didn't came with ranges of 0-31, much less the SPEED IV. o_o

And one other thing about chatot flipping: when I open my summary to hear the recorded chatter, does checking-the-summary/hearing-the-cry of another pokemon in my party then SWITCHING to chatot's summary to hear its chatter interfer with the act flipping itself?

TDawg
14th November 2011, 12:38 AM
So I tried to RNG a flawless shiny solrock, and when it hatched, didn't came out shiny but I checked it's IV's and I got this:

http://milfotos.org/images/2fc7daa881fb8b2ee954afe1db26f278.JPG

I look at the IVs and ask "wtf"? Because my past RNG acts didn't came with ranges of 0-31, much less the SPEED IV. o_o

And one other thing about chatot flipping: when I open my summary to hear the recorded chatter, does checking-the-summary/hearing-the-cry of another pokemon in my party then SWITCHING to chatot's summary to hear its chatter interfer with the act flipping itself?

It's because it is way too hard to tell your IVs at level 1. you need to be at level 50 or above imo. So Just ask the guy at the train station. And no it doesn't

jolteon135
14th November 2011, 4:03 AM
lol, yes I forgot to copy the link, I meant this (http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3159941&postcount=2)

I did both that frame thing, but I still can't find the IV, or just keep trying?

You're doing something wrong. Screenshot of your reporter setup might help me figure out what you're doing wrong but right I can't tell what you're doing wrong.



Not too fussed though as this one now has better IV's than my original father so am going to put him in with mother and use same seed to get my Mild one (will just try 2 or maybe 1 less chatot advance) and hopefully he'll come out perfect :)
You know resaving changes the position of the NPCs which might change your SSF? If you change parent(s) and resave you'll have to find your SSF again (not difficult, just letting you know).

MSK
14th November 2011, 6:24 AM
You're doing something wrong. Screenshot of your reporter setup might help me figure out what you're doing wrong but right I can't tell what you're doing wrong.


You know resaving changes the position of the NPCs which might change your SSF? If you change parent(s) and resave you'll have to find your SSF again (not difficult, just letting you know).

Darn. forgot that lol, yeah have just tried again and 2 out so reset and try again. :)

misterdarvus
14th November 2011, 7:14 AM
You're doing something wrong. Screenshot of your reporter setup might help me figure out what you're doing wrong but right I can't tell what you're doing wrong.


You know resaving changes the position of the NPCs which might change your SSF? If you change parent(s) and resave you'll have to find your SSF again (not difficult, just letting you know).
http://photoserver.ws/images/bPSx4ec0b0ec80af6.png

I'm using custom theme, so I'm sorry if it's hard to read

drothagreat0ne
14th November 2011, 7:31 AM
I started the search for Tornadus and found two seeds I feel good about. I tried hitting one, but I'm having problems. I saved inside the house during Spring, the seed is a Summer seed. I can hit my IV frame without doing any Chatot flips, but once I do, it becomes difficult to know where I land. Is the weather screen gonna be an issue?

Summer

10/24/2011 Hour: 2 Minute: 33 Second: 6
Key 1: Start Key 2: Y
Seed: CE87ABA12F48384B
Shiny Frame - 959

Also, the other seed was the first one I tried (hence the Spring), but the problem is the rain outside. Will is be an issue to hit the seed because of the rain outside?

Spring

05/20/2011 Hour: 15 Minute: 33 Second: 36
Key 1: B Key 2: Start
Seed: 81660374C5532508
Shiny Frame - 734

Ausgirl
14th November 2011, 7:48 AM
Is it true that you can't find your secret id with a mm shiny?

The Eleventh
14th November 2011, 6:41 PM
I started the search for Tornadus and found two seeds I feel good about. I tried hitting one, but I'm having problems. I saved inside the house during Spring, the seed is a Summer seed. I can hit my IV frame without doing any Chatot flips, but once I do, it becomes difficult to know where I land. Is the weather screen gonna be an issue?

Summer

10/24/2011 Hour: 2 Minute: 33 Second: 6
Key 1: Start Key 2: Y
Seed: CE87ABA12F48384B
Shiny Frame - 959

Also, the other seed was the first one I tried (hence the Spring), but the problem is the rain outside. Will is be an issue to hit the seed because of the rain outside?

Spring

05/20/2011 Hour: 15 Minute: 33 Second: 36
Key 1: B Key 2: Start
Seed: 81660374C5532508
Shiny Frame - 734
Don't use the second seed, since there'll be rain outside that isn't caused by Tornadus; use the first. You're going to have trouble RNGing your roamer anyway, so don't let your difficulties cause too much concern. You should be doing no Chatot flips first, then ten, then twenty, then thirty, and so on, until you're pretty sure of your SSF. Take your time will doing this, ensuring you've hit your seed. Once you've got your SSF, it won't be too hard to get your correct PIDRNG frame.

I have a question of my own. Is there a simple way to search for shiny PIDRNG frames for wild, stationary or roaming Pokémon, or must one manually search seeds for shiny frames by finding them in the Time Finder and then pasting them into the main window?

Kalosian
14th November 2011, 6:45 PM
I have a question of my own. Is there a simple way to search for shiny PIDRNG frames for wild, stationary or roaming Pokémon, or must one manually search seeds for shiny frames by finding them in the Time Finder and then pasting them into the main window?
You can mark the box "Search for Nearby Shiny Frames" in the time finder. Just enter your ID/SID and the desired max shiny frame (whatever you are willing to chatter to).
I'm assuming you are using RNG reporter, I have no idea how to do this for PPRNG.

drothagreat0ne
14th November 2011, 9:49 PM
Now I know why Roamers are a pain to RNG. I've been trying to hit the seed I posted before (the 10/24/11 one). My Timer0 has to be the biggest troll in the world. For me, it's C7C. Every time I setup and do the necessary steps, I end up on C7B. So I took that value and searched for a couple of seeds with it. You know what I landed on? C7D. ARGH!

So I saved the information for the original seed I'm trying to hit, and now I'm searching for ones only during the Summer months. Hopefully I'll be able to hit my seed before I go bald.

Shadow_Assailant
14th November 2011, 10:59 PM
So what? can you find out your Sid with a mm shiny or do you have to wait until you have a RE?

Any Pokémon will do, except for a chained shiny from 4th Gen.

Ausgirl
14th November 2011, 11:00 PM
Any Pokémon will do, except for a chained shiny from 4th Gen.

Including non-shinies?

Shadow_Assailant
14th November 2011, 11:11 PM
Including non-shinies?

Yup. Does not matter at all. I'm not sure about certain legends and Wonder Card Pokémon, but your starter, any Pokémon in the wild, an egg (hatched, of course), etc. It really doesn't matter.

Ausgirl
15th November 2011, 1:57 AM
Yup. Does not matter at all. I'm not sure about certain legends and Wonder Card Pokémon, but your starter, any Pokémon in the wild, an egg (hatched, of course), etc. It really doesn't matter.

Brilliant, I thought I was gonna have to grind until I have a RE.

TDawg
15th November 2011, 4:22 AM
To add on to Shadow's explanation ANY pokemon with the same ID and Name should give you your SID. The only reason you wouldn't want to do it with a Wondercard poke or a 4th Gen game is because you're getting a different trainers ID. But you ccan find your SID for Dppt or HGSS if you needed

Mycul99
15th November 2011, 3:24 PM
I am hoping to RNG my thunderous, i dont want it shiny, just with hidden power ice and a timid nature, Im fairy good at RNGing for other pokes, but how much different is it to do thunderous??

Does any one have any tips?

The Eleventh
15th November 2011, 6:30 PM
I am hoping to RNG my thunderous, i dont want it shiny, just with hidden power ice and a timid nature, Im fairy good at RNGing for other pokes, but how much different is it to do thunderous??

Does any one have any tips?
The main difference is that you'll find it hard to hit your PIDRNG frame. There's nothing difficult about the actual process, it's just the hitting of your frame that can cause grievance. This is due to the rain that appears due to Thundurus, which advances the PIDRNG frame crazily.

Make sure to read this guide (http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/bw_rng_part7) and watch this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJi-T_dPxH8) and this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vep3DTsjTzU&feature=player_embedded) to assist you.

jolteon135
15th November 2011, 7:04 PM
Now I know why Roamers are a pain to RNG. I've been trying to hit the seed I posted before (the 10/24/11 one). My Timer0 has to be the biggest troll in the world. For me, it's C7C. Every time I setup and do the necessary steps, I end up on C7B. So I took that value and searched for a couple of seeds with it. You know what I landed on? C7D. ARGH!

So I saved the information for the original seed I'm trying to hit, and now I'm searching for ones only during the Summer months. Hopefully I'll be able to hit my seed before I go bald.

Impossible. You have a maximum of 2 timer0 values. You can't have C7B, C7C and C7D.

2rsa
15th November 2011, 7:28 PM
Hi every one^-^
I'm trying to learn how to RNG.can i use my DSi?i heard that RNG ing isn't possible with Dsi or 3DS.Is this true?

Sonikku za Hejjihoggu
15th November 2011, 7:36 PM
Hi every one^-^
I'm trying to learn how to RNG.can i use my DSi?i heard that RNG ing isn't possible with Dsi or 3DS.Is this true?

It is possible, but you would have to rely on the cumbersome C-gear method. Which I really don't recommend for anything but Entralink genderless/male only Pokemon.

2rsa
15th November 2011, 7:58 PM
It is possible, but you would have to rely on the cumbersome C-gear method. Which I really don't recommend for anything but Entralink genderless/male only Pokemon.
I also have a original DS.I don't know if it still works.:D
Is it possible to Rng a wonder card via C-gear method?

TDawg
16th November 2011, 12:38 AM
I also have a original DS.I don't know if it still works.:D
Is it possible to Rng a wonder card via C-gear method?

You should really try to get the original ds going.

pwnswitchclik
16th November 2011, 12:54 AM
Please forgive me for this dumb question, but, chatot flipping is done before receiving the shiny egg, right?

And when you say "get the egg, FAST", just how fast, may I also ask?

TDawg
16th November 2011, 12:56 AM
Please forgive me for this dumb question, but, chatot flipping is done before receiving the shiny egg, right?

And when you say "get the egg, FAST", just how fast, may I also ask?

Yes it is done before. And when we mean fast we mean as fast as you possibly can.

drothagreat0ne
16th November 2011, 7:18 AM
Impossible. You have a maximum of 2 timer0 values. You can't have C7B, C7C and C7D.

I know, but it sure feels like it.

I tried the seed again and I'm landing on my Timer0. I guess the game wanted to troll me all day yesterday.

TDawg
16th November 2011, 7:37 AM
Lol don't worry dro has happened to me and I only have one timer0 :P!

MSK
16th November 2011, 8:50 PM
Very confused this morning, been breeding for a Shiny Jolly Male Axew, got 2 flawless parents in the daycare egg ready, got my seed and PIDRNG ready for what I want.
Found my SFF, hit again and went for it. Perfect or so I thought, egg hatched and it's not shiny :(, so I thought must've missed by one or two chatot flips. So I go into summary to see what I did hit and here's the strange bit it is the Jolly flawless Axew but it's not shiny and it's female!!! Nothing in the vicinity I could've flipped to so how the **** di that happen? Any ideas?

The Eleventh
16th November 2011, 8:55 PM
@MSK, it seems you may have selected International Breeding when your parents are of the same language, or that you haven't selected it, and they're of different languages. Also, if you're using a Ditto, make sure to tick that in RNG Reporter.

Sonikku za Hejjihoggu
16th November 2011, 9:05 PM
http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png

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#371-373 Bagon|Naive|Sheer Force (DW)|31|31|31|31|31|31|
|Hydro Pump|Dragon Dance|Dragon Claw|Fire Blast|
|Hatched at Dragonspiral Tower|
(Note: Naughty/Rash/Jolly coming soon)

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#615 Cryogonal|Calm|Levitate|31|0|31|31|31|31|
|Bind|Frost Breath|Flash Cannon|Reflect|
|Hatched at Cold Storage|

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#616-617 Shelmet|Hasty|Swift Swim|31|31|31|31|31|31|
|Leech Life|Spikes|Protect|
|Hatched at Lostlorn Forest|

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#618 Stunfisk|Careful|Static|31|31|31|28|31|31|
|Yawn|Paint Split|Curse|Earth Power|
|Hatched at Chargestone Cave|

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#631 Heatmor|Rash|Flash Fire|31|31|31|31|31|30|Ice 70|
|Heat Wave|Sucker Punch|Hidden Power|Protect|
|Hatched at Victory Road|


Not the biggest update from me, but at least it's something.

MSK
16th November 2011, 9:18 PM
@MSK, it seems you may have selected International Breeding when your parents are of the same language, or that you haven't selected it, and they're of different languages. Also, if you're using a Ditto, make sure to tick that in RNG Reporter.

Hi SpeedSuicune

No not the case, normal breeding selected and not ditto as both Flawless Axew's caught on that cart about an hour earlier.
That's why I'm so confused??? I kept the Jolly Axew as it's good enough for what I want but may try again later to see if I can get the shiny one.

Ausgirl
16th November 2011, 10:01 PM
Also is using sites like pokecheck to find out your SID considered hacking? RNG is supposed to be the ligitimate way of hacking so I don't wanna risk the chance of being blacklisted for this.

Shadow_Assailant
16th November 2011, 10:26 PM
Also is using sites like pokecheck to find out your SID considered hacking? RNG is supposed to be the ligitimate way of hacking so I don't wanna risk the chance of being blacklisted for this.

There are many sites like pokecheck. Pokecheck is the safest site to find your SID.

MSK
16th November 2011, 11:17 PM
Worked this time!! Put them back in the daycare and did it all again, this time all good Shiny Male Flawless Jolly Axew :) Very happy, have now given him Pokerus and will be EV training him ready for my competitive team.

Kalosian
17th November 2011, 12:07 AM
Worked this time!! Put them back in the daycare and did it all again, this time all good Shiny Male Flawless Jolly Axew :) Very happy, have now given him Pokerus and will be EV training him ready for my competitive team.
Good job! Keep it up, and you will be a master RNGer in no time!

Been a while since last time I posted something new, so I'll do like Advent and post an update.

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#147. Dragon Age (Dratini)
OT: Snacko | ID: 61034 | Gender: Female
Nature: Adamant | Ability: Marvel Scale -> Multiscale | Type: Dragon -> Dragon / Flying
Hidden Power: Electric [59] | Location hatched: Dragonspiral Tower
IVs: 31 HP | 31 Atk | 31 Def | 12 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Wrap / Leer / Dragon Dance
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#246. Kid (Larvitar) (★)
OT: Snacko | ID: 61034 | Gender: Male
Nature: Jolly | Ability: Guts -> Shed Skin -> Sand Stream | Type: Rock / Ground -> Rock / Dark
Hidden Power: | Location hatched: Challenger’s Cave
IVs: 31 HP | 31 Atk | 31 Def | 15 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Bite / Leer / Dragon Dance
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#371. Kuloresia (Bagon) (★)
OT: Snacko | ID: 61034 | Gender: Female
Nature: Jolly | Ability: Rock Head -> Intimidate | Type: Dragon -> Dragon / Flying
Hidden Power: Electric [70] | Location hatched: Dragonspiral Tower
IVs: 31 HP | 31 Atk | 31 Def | 30 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Rage / Dragon Dance / Dragon Claw
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#374. Rusty Rose (Beldum) (★)
OT: Snacko | ID: 61034 | Genderless
Nature: Adamant | Ability: Clear Body | Type: Steel / Psychic
Hidden Power: Dark [70] | Location hatched: Gear Station
IVs: 31 HP | 31 Atk | 31 Def | 11 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Take Down
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#443. Kauma (Gible)
OT: Snacko | ID: 61034 | Gender: Male
Nature: Jolly | Ability: Sand Veil | Type: Dragon / Ground
Hidden Power: Dark [70] | Location hatched: Dragonspiral Tower
IVs: 31 HP | 31 Atk | 31 Def | 27 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Tackle / Dragon Claw
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#633. Dracyione (Deino)
OT: Snacko | ID: 61034 | Gender: Female
Nature: Modest | Ability: Hustle -> Levitate | Type: Dark / Dragon
Hidden Power: Dragon [70] | Location hatched: Dragonspiral Tower
IVs: 31 HP | 10 Atk | 31 Def | 31 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Tackle / Dragon Rage / Dark Pulse
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#120. Zed (Staryu)
OT: Snacko | ID: 61034 | Genderless
Nature: Modest | Ability: Natural Cure | Type: Water -> Water / Psychic
Hidden Power: Dark [70] | Location hatched: Undella Bay
IVs: 31 HP | 19 Atk | 31 Def | 31 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Tackle / Harden / Gyro Ball / Light Screen
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#120. Ralhix (Staryu)
OT: Snacko | ID: 61034 | Genderless
Nature: Timid | Ability: Natural Cure | Type: Water -> Water / Psychic
Hidden Power: Dark [70] | Location hatched: Undella Bay
IVs: 31 HP | 19 Atk | 31 Def | 31 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Tackle / Harden / Gyro Ball / Light Screen
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#129. Acuggalo (Magikarp) (★)
OT: Snacko | ID: 61034 | Gender: Female
Nature: Jolly | Ability: Rattled -> Moxie | Type: Water -> Water / Flying
Hidden Power: Electric [59] | Location hatched: Marvelous Bridge
IVs: 31 HP | 31 Atk | 31 Def | 24 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Splash
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#063. Starborn (Abra) (★)
OT: Snacko | ID: 61034 | Gender: Male
Nature: Timid | Ability: Magic Guard | Type: Psychic
Hidden Power: Dark [70] | Location hatched: Marvelous Bridge
IVs: 31 HP | 3 Atk | 31 Def | 31 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Teleport / Hidden Power
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#207. Scorpia (Gligar) (★)
OT: Snacko | ID: 61034 | Gender: Male
Nature: Impish | Ability: Immunity -> Poison Heal | Type: Ground / Flying
Hidden Power: Dark [70] | Location hatched: Desert Resort
IVs: 31 HP | 31 Atk | 31 Def | 11 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Poison Sting / Poison Tail / Protect
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#399. Determined (Bidoof) (★)
OT: Snacko | ID: 61034 | Gender: Female
Nature: Adamant | Ability: Moody | Type: Normal -> Normal / Water
Hidden Power: Electric [70] | Location hatched: Moor of Icirrus
IVs: 31 HP | 31 Atk | 31 Def | 6 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Tackle / Aqua Tail
Thanks to Zenotwapal for the Magikarp nickname.
I'm currently taking a break from RNGing, but I have a lot of more things to do later on.

pwnswitchclik
17th November 2011, 1:07 AM
I did everything I was told to do to hatch a shiny flawless solrock, but instead it came out as non shiny and with a different nature.

http://milfotos.org/images/4cf6ce2a9e99e891c86058495c48fccd.JPG

Vandslaux
17th November 2011, 1:19 AM
Is it possible to RNG Wondercards with a DSi? I plan to get a DS Lite, but I'm just wondering, as I intend to RNG my Victini when it comes out.

jolteon135
17th November 2011, 5:20 AM
I did everything I was told to do to hatch a shiny flawless solrock, but instead it came out as non shiny and with a different nature.

http://milfotos.org/images/4cf6ce2a9e99e891c86058495c48fccd.JPG
Why do you have "shiny only" checked? You can't see all the PID Frames if you have that checked and thus you can't find your actual starting frame (SSF). You're going to do something similar to find your starting frame for the egg.
Watch this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN1wz0_6800). It's not for eggs but it will show you how to find your starting frame in areas with NPCs.
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYCr1U-Cxpg&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL) might also help.



Is it possible to RNG Wondercards with a DSi? I plan to get a DS Lite, but I'm just wondering, as I intend to RNG my Victini when it comes out.
You've asked about RNGing on a DSi many times before. Have you actually tried it yet? Because if you had you would realize how difficult it is and how it's not very rewarding for your effort.

No you can't RNG wondercards on a DSi. Wondercards are completely PIDRNG based and you can't control the PIDRNG via the c-gear method.

misterdarvus
17th November 2011, 6:21 AM
http://photoserver.ws/images/bPSx4ec0b0ec80af6.png

I'm using custom theme, so I'm sorry if it's hard to read
Bump, still not answered yet

jolteon135
17th November 2011, 6:33 AM
Bump, still not answered yet

Bumping it isn't going to help you. There's nothing obviously wrong there. You need to explain more about what you're doing for anyone to figure out what you're doing wrong.

How are you checking IVs?

Also don't set min frame=1. Min frame is 21 for Entralink RNGing.

Aprilz
17th November 2011, 6:56 AM
Hello everyone, I'm hoping someone can help me out. This is the first time I've run into this problem while RNGing for a 4th/5th gen shiney egg. I'm currently running 9.81. I go through the whole process of calibrating my system with a wild encounter, find my seed and enter the result in time finder but then when I go to 4th/5th gen shiney egg tab i've noticed it doesn't transfer my ID or SID from the main screen to this tab and when I enter all my preferences or even when I don't enter my preferences it never brings up any results. It's been about 2 months since my last rng and I've done this several time over successfully so idk what's going on if I'm forgetting something or should I delete and redownload program?

jolteon135
17th November 2011, 7:01 AM
Hello everyone, I'm hoping someone can help me out. This is the first time I've run into this problem while RNGing for a 4th/5th gen shiney egg. I'm currently running 9.81. I go through the whole process of calibrating my system with a wild encounter, find my seed and enter the result in time finder but then when I go to 4th/5th gen shiney egg tab i've noticed it doesn't transfer my ID or SID from the main screen to this tab and when I enter all my preferences or even when I don't enter my preferences it never brings up any results. It's been about 2 months since my last rng and I've done this several time over successfully so idk what's going on if I'm forgetting something or should I delete and redownload program?

Enter your Id/SID in the main window then click generate (generate anything). Close/Reopen RNG reporter and when you open the time finder your Id/SID should already be there.

EDIT: Also why are you recalibrating? Your parameters would still be the same as they were 2 months ago. You don't need to recalibrate unless you have a new DS and/or cartridge.

Aprilz
17th November 2011, 7:13 AM
Thank you so much ^_^ it's up and running right. Also never knew I didn't need to recalibrate everytime >.> always did it as a precautionary measure. Woops. Anyway going to get to work on my newest edition, shiny elekid with dream world ability #heart thanks again!

pwnswitchclik
19th November 2011, 9:59 PM
Why do you have "shiny only" checked? You can't see all the PID Frames if you have that checked and thus you can't find your actual starting frame (SSF). You're going to do something similar to find your starting frame for the egg.
Watch this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN1wz0_6800). It's not for eggs but it will show you how to find your starting frame in areas with NPCs.

I check in that option because I thought I could get shiny eggs with it. Apparently I need to learn more. *facepalm*

In that video of yours, do you chatot flip (off camera, maybe) before capturing that swadloon?

TDawg
19th November 2011, 11:14 PM
I check in that option because I thought I could get shiny eggs with it. Apparently I need to learn more. *facepalm*

In that video of yours, do you chatot flip (off camera, maybe) before capturing that swadloon?

You would chatot flip before. That's the whole point because you have to get to the PID for a poke to be able to get it. Chatot flips advance your PID frame. If you didn't then you would get a random pokemon.

EDIT: So I did these with the same seed. I didn't search for shiny seeds because I am giving it to my gf now. :p So yeah lol. Here they are.


★http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/638.gif★
#638 Cobalion | http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/type/steel.gif http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/type/fighting.gif | Genderless | http://serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/ultraball.png
Nature: Jolly | Ability: Justified | Characteristic: Likes to thrash about.
Date: 11/17/2011 | Captured: Guidance Chamber | Met at Lvl. 42
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31 | Notes: None

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#639 Terrakion | http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/type/rock.gif http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/type/fighting.gif | Genderless | http://serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/timerball.png
Nature: Jolly | Ability: Justified | Characteristic: Likes to thrash about.
Date: 11/17/2011 | Captured: Trial Chamber | Met at Lvl. 42
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31 | Notes: 35 turns of pure torture

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#640 Virizion | http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/type/grass.gif http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/type/fighting.gif | Genderless | http://serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/timerball.png
Nature: Jolly | Ability: Justified | Characteristic: Likes to thrash about.
Date: 11/17/2011 | Captured: Rumination Field | Met at Lvl. 42
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31 | Notes: Mmm 4 tries before it was caught -_-

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#643 Reshiram | http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/type/dragon.gif http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/type/fire.gif | Genderless | http://serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/quickball.png
Nature: Timid | Ability: Turboblaze | Characteristic: Somewhat vain.
Date: 11/17/2011 | Captured: N's Castle | Met at Lvl. 50
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31 | Notes: None

MSK
20th November 2011, 11:49 PM
Working my way through RNG breeding, just wanted to know if I've transferred a Pokemon in from Gen IV do I still select the normal Breeding option as they are both UK versions or should I use Breeding International?
Only reason I ask is I can't seem to hit my seeds and it's not even trolling the timer so confused?

TDawg
21st November 2011, 12:41 AM
It'd still be normal breeding

pwnswitchclik
21st November 2011, 2:11 AM
Based on the first video jolteon135 provided, I tried to reproduce the same steps: since I'm trying to go for a shiny flawless solrock egg I went to find my actual starting frame on the area with grass closest to the daycare in route 3. I saved at the area and turned off the DS and switched its time and date to that of the seed provided in time finder. I hit it, sweet scented and it came out a female level 9 purrloin with impish nature and it had ability 1 which was unburden. I checked the encounter table for purrloin and it was on slot 5, so I checked in RNG reporter's list for a with the aformentioned specifications and found out to be frame 200.

The PID frame given by TF was 78, and the calculated initial PID frame was 44. After that I got lost (78 - 200?)

Where do I go from here? My head is swirling...o_o

skullbros
21st November 2011, 2:16 AM
my file is saved on a dsi could i use a ds just to rng without losing my online data for the mac address

TDawg
21st November 2011, 2:21 AM
Based on the first video jolteon135 provided, I tried to reproduce the same steps: since I'm trying to go for a shiny flawless solrock egg I went to find my actual starting frame on the area with grass closest to the daycare in route 3. I saved at the area and turned off the DS and switched its time and date to that of the seed provided in time finder. I hit it, sweet scented and it came out a female level 9 purrloin with impish nature and it had ability 1 which was unburden. I checked the encounter table for purrloin and it was on slot 5, so I checked in RNG reporter's list for a with the aformentioned specifications and found out to be frame 200.

The PID frame given by TF was 78, and the calculated initial PID frame was 44. After that I got lost (78 - 200?)

Where do I go from here? My head is swirling...o_o

Obviously you didn't. Honestly though you're not making a whole lot of sense to me.


my file is saved on a dsi could i use a ds just to rng without losing my online data for the mac address

Yes you can just don't sync you game to that ds.

pwnswitchclik
21st November 2011, 2:39 AM
Obviously you didn't. Honestly though you're not making a whole lot of sense to me.

Sorry about that, I wrote this whole text because I forgot to print screen. My bad.

skullbros
21st November 2011, 3:05 AM
Obviously you didn't. Honestly though you're not making a whole lot of sense to me.



Yes you can just don't sync you game to that ds.

you mean game sync right

Too Funk to Druck
21st November 2011, 4:29 AM
Based on the first video jolteon135 provided, I tried to reproduce the same steps: since I'm trying to go for a shiny flawless solrock egg I went to find my actual starting frame on the area with grass closest to the daycare in route 3. I saved at the area and turned off the DS and switched its time and date to that of the seed provided in time finder. I hit it, sweet scented and it came out a female level 9 purrloin with impish nature and it had ability 1 which was unburden. I checked the encounter table for purrloin and it was on slot 5, so I checked in RNG reporter's list for a with the aformentioned specifications and found out to be frame 200.

The PID frame given by TF was 78, and the calculated initial PID frame was 44. After that I got lost (78 - 200?)

Where do I go from here? My head is swirling...o_o

Two things:

1. You need to find your SSF by saving in front of the guy, collecting an egg, and hatching it. Saving in the grass, and then saving in front of the daycare guy later will change the positions of the NPCs and, potentially, the SSF. Also, NPCs still move while Sweet Scenting, while they don't when you're talking to the daycare man. If you use the grass, your SSF will seem higher.

2. Assuming you have all the information right in RNG reporter, if you're getting results that are on frames that high, you're not hitting your seed. I'd suggest trying again using an egg to really see though.

TDawg
21st November 2011, 4:35 AM
you mean game sync right

Yes that is what I mean

pwnswitchclik
22nd November 2011, 12:39 AM
Two things:

1. You need to find your SSF by saving in front of the guy, collecting an egg, and hatching it.

OK. Since I'm not gonna get a shiny solrock egg right now, should I save, turn off and then on (no time, or seed hitting or pressing any keys), and right after that, ask the old man for the egg, just like that?

TDawg
22nd November 2011, 1:27 AM
OK. Since I'm not gonna get a shiny solrock egg right now, should I save, turn off and then on (no time, or seed hitting or pressing any keys), and right after that, ask the old man for the egg, just like that?

When finding your SSF you need to hit the seed. And you open the menu as fast as you can then close it and talk to the day-care man as fast as you can.

Too Funk to Druck
22nd November 2011, 1:28 AM
OK. Since I'm not gonna get a shiny solrock egg right now, should I save, turn off and then on (no time, or seed hitting or pressing any keys), and right after that, ask the old man for the egg, just like that?

You won't be able to see the frame you hit if you don't hit your seed. You should go into as if you were actually going for your shiny Solrock, but you just don't do any frame advancing.

The Eleventh
22nd November 2011, 7:12 PM
When determining your SSF, you should press X to access the menu, close it and then receive the egg. That's what you'll be doing when you do advance, so you can figure the SSF out more accurately.

pwnswitchclik
23rd November 2011, 2:07 AM
Guys, let's just stop it for a sec, okay? Let me just expose a problem I'm having at the moment.

Everytime I ask you a certain question, you give an answer that makes me ask details of the information in it, and then when you answer those details I require, you introduce more material which it's details are also required, and so on and so on. It's making me insane.
So let's start from the beginning and get these things sorted out:

I have a solrock and a flawless ditto and my objective is a shiny flawless solrock egg.

How do I do it?
What must I have?

And please tell me in an orderly way with all details and print screens that will help too.

PS. Sorry about my crankiness.

jolteon135
23rd November 2011, 4:10 AM
Guys, let's just stop it for a sec, okay? Let me just expose a problem I'm having at the moment.

Everytime I ask you a certain question, you give an answer that makes me ask details of the information in it, and then when you answer those details I require, you introduce more material which it's details are also required, and so on and so on. It's making me insane.
So let's start from the beginning and get these things sorted out:

I have a solrock and a flawless ditto and my objective is a shiny flawless solrock egg.

How do I do it?
What must I have?

And please tell me in an orderly way with all details and print screens that will help too.

PS. Sorry about my crankiness.
So you're asking us to type up an entire step by step guide for you? Why don't you follow the guides that are already on the first page?

How do I Search Non-shiny Eggs?
In the time finder click on the 4th/5th gen shiny egg tab. Enter the wrong ID/SID. Something random like 11111/22222 is fine.
Note*: There is a known bug in RNG reporter 9.81 where the ID/SID does not update in time finder unless you close/reopen RNG reporter after entering the new ID/SID. Enter the ID/SID from the main window then click generate. Close/Reopen RNG reporter and it should be updated with the new ID/SID.

How do I Search For Shiny Eggs?
Use the shiny egg tab and enter the correct ID/SID. *See note above.

How do I Search For Dream World Pokemon?
Select Dream World Ability Only. You will need a female with the dream world ability and a non-Ditto male in the same egg group.

What Are The Breeding Types?
The 5th gen breeding types are BW and BW (International). International is if you are using parents from different language games for example an English Patrat with a Japanese Ditto or a French Skitty with a German Wailord.
International makes it more likely to find results just like using the everstone.

Should I Use The Everstone?
Yes.

Should I Use Power Item(s)?
No.

What is Min/Max Frame?
In the shiny egg tab, min/max frame refers to your PID frame. Min frame should be 60 and max frame can be as high as you wish to go. 200 is generally a good number for max frame.

What is the IV Frame For Eggs?
Eggs start on frame 8. The shiny egg tab automatically uses frame 8 for egg IVs.

Do The Parents Need to be Flawless/Perfect?
No. The closer the parents are to your desired spread the more likely the egg search is to return a result. You will want decent parents but they don't have to be exact matches for what you want. Catch/trade for some flawless/Hidden power Dittos to make things easier.

How do I See The PID Frames?
Right Click the seed in the time finder, copy to clipboard, choose breeding BW or Breeding (BW, International), Paste the seed where it says seed (hex), choose the everstone nature (if applicable), Click "Calculate Initial PID Frame" then click generate. You should already know your target frame from the time finder.
Note*: You can right click in the main window and choose "Display parents in search." Then you can enter the parents' IVs and the IVs from RNG. To find the IVs from RNG you must change the method to Method 5 (Standard Seed) in the main window, generate and look at frame 8 for your seed IVs. Using "Display parents in search" will bring up the characteristics which are useful for finding your actual starting frame.

How do Genders Work?
The gender ratios are for the females. You can find female gender ratios on serebii. For example, Timburr has a 25% female ratio. If I wanted to know what gender my Timburr will be I would look at my target PID frame and look under 25%F.
Note*:For Nidoran-M/Nidoran-F/Volbeat/Illumise you need to look under species.

Who is the Father/Mother For Genderless Pokemon With Ditto?
Ditto acts as the mother when paired with a genderless Pokemon.

Where Should I Save?
Save in front of The Daycare Man

Do I Need to Advance to IV Frame 8?
No, the act of taking the egg advances you 7 frames (from frame 1-8).

How do I Hit my Target IV Frame?
You Start on Frame 8 and you should only use frame 8 for eggs thus you do not need to advance the IV frame at all.

How do I Find my Actual Starting PID Frame?
Hit the seed, enter the game, let the season message fade by itself. While the season message is fading press X rapidly to bring up the menu as quickly as possible. Exit the menu (press B) then grab the egg as quickly as possible (press A quickly!). Hatch the Egg and look for a PID frame that matches your hatched egg near your Calculated initial PID Frame. That's your actual starting PID Frame. Turn off the game without saving and redo it to get your target.
You can right click in the main window and enter the parents' IVs and the IVs from the RNG. This will make RNG reporter display characteristics which are helpful for finding your starting PID frame especially if you're using an everstone. To find the IVs from the RNG choose method 5 (Standard Seed) in the main window and generate. Look at frame 8 for the IVs from the RNG.
The judge in the battle subway is a quick way to figure out your hatched Pokemon's IVs. He will list all the stats that are tied for the highest spot and he'll say "It can't be better in that regard" if those stats have 31 IVs.

How do I Hit my Target PID Frame?
After finding your starting frame, turn off the game without saving and hit your seed again. Enter the game and remember to let the season message fade by itself. Press X rapidly to bring up the menu while the season message is fading. Now view Chatot's summary the correct number of times to get your target. Target PID frame-actual starting PID frame=number of times you need to view Chatot's summary. When you're done viewing Chatot's summary, exit the menu and grab the egg as quickly as possible. Go hatch it and enjoy your Pokemion. :)

After you grab the egg you can fly to victory road catch something immediately. Then check it's IVs. Choose method 5 (standard seed) and wild Pokemon in the main window. If the IVs of your caught Pokemon are on IV Frame 14 or 14+Z, where Z is the number of Pokemon in your party, it means you hit your seed. This can save you some time so you don't hatch an egg when you missed the seed. If you have no problem hitting the seed this is not necessary.

Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSonSZQFQK8) (ignore the part about searching;The FAQ above explains how to search via the shiny egg tab which is the easier way of searching)

another good guide (http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3446600) (just ignore the parts about searching)

If you can't figure out eggs try something easier first like stationaries/wild Pokemon.

MSK
24th November 2011, 10:51 PM
So I've perfected RNGing Wild Pokemon, and I've pretty much got Shiny Egg pokemon how I want them 95% of the time.
Now how the diddly do I RNG a Shiny Roamer :)
Where is best to save, do I chatot flip inside first and as I've heard you need a sunny month so weather doesn't affect it, which months should i be searching for my seed in?

Then when I've done this I need to learn c-gear RNG so I can (fingers crossed) get a flawless Imposter Ditto if it wins the poll (although if the spammers get their way we'll end up with Mudkip :( . . )

drothagreat0ne
24th November 2011, 10:55 PM
So I've perfected RNGing Wild Pokemon, and I've pretty much got Shiny Egg pokemon how I want them 95% of the time.
Now how the diddly do I RNG a Shiny Roamer :)
Where is best to save, do I chatot flip inside first and as I've heard you need a sunny month so weather doesn't affect it, which months should i be searching for my seed in?

Then when I've done this I need to learn c-gear RNG so I can (fingers crossed) get a flawless Imposter Ditto if it wins the poll (although if the spammers get their way we'll end up with Mudkip :( . . )


Believe me when I say, "You'll be swearing at your Timer0."

I'm still looking for a seed for my Tornadus. Is Calm a good nature for it? I ask because it keeps popping up.

*edit* Would you need a flawless Ditto with the way its ability works?

MSK
24th November 2011, 11:10 PM
Believe me when I say, "You'll be swearing at your Timer0."

I'm still looking for a seed for my Tornadus. Is Calm a good nature for it? I ask because it keeps popping up.

*edit* Would you need a flawless Ditto with the way its ability works?

I'm going after Tornadus as well, I was going for Mild as a good nature based on the moveset I was thinking of running. Although still not sure what EV spread to give it.
Anyway which months should I be looking at?

In regards to Ditto, I suppose not, just wanted him flawless as you can't breed it for the DW ability or shinyness so might as well make him the best he can be :)

drothagreat0ne
24th November 2011, 11:17 PM
Definitely go for Summer months. It's easier then because there's no weather.

TDawg
25th November 2011, 3:46 AM
Just saying Dro or is it Drotha? (Always saw Shadow call you that) that a calm nature would not really benefit Tornadus. While it isn't the worst nature, Tornadus is a glass cannon pokemon. So you should go for a Speed boosting nature. Timid for special set, Jolly for a physical set (I only these on VGC teams really), Naive for a mixed set, and a Hasty works just as good for a mixed set.

drothagreat0ne
25th November 2011, 4:15 AM
Just saying Dro or is it Drotha? (Always saw Shadow call you that) that a calm nature would not really benefit Tornadus. While it isn't the worst nature, Tornadus is a glass cannon pokemon. So you should go for a Speed boosting nature. Timid for special set, Jolly for a physical set (I only these on VGC teams really), Naive for a mixed set, and a Hasty works just as good for a mixed set.

Thanks for the info. I'll look for those then.

BTW, it's Dro the Great One.

The Eleventh
25th November 2011, 6:54 PM
I'm going to RNG my ID/SID on my Japanese Black when it arrives, in order to (hopefully) RNG a shiny Tornadus. Just to be completely certain, I'll have to start the game first, find its parameters, and then restart it to RNG my ID/SID, correct?

Too Funk to Druck
25th November 2011, 7:48 PM
I'm going to RNG my ID/SID on my Japanese Black when it arrives, in order to (hopefully) RNG a shiny Tornadus. Just to be completely certain, I'll have to start the game first, find its parameters, and then restart it to RNG my ID/SID, correct?

Yup. That's pretty much it.

Bond697
26th November 2011, 10:04 PM
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3976513&postcount=824

rng abuse on the dsi and 3ds will be in reporter soon.

TDawg
26th November 2011, 10:53 PM
So I taught my gf to RNG in a night. Here's her first RNG! xD


★http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/587.gif★
#587 Emolga | http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/type/electric.gifhttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/type/flying.gif | ♂ | http://serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/pokeball.png
Nature: Timid | Ability: Static | Characteristic: Capable of taking hits.
Date: 11/01/2011 | Hatched: Skyarrow Bridge | Met at Lvl. 1
IVs: 31/x/31/31/31/31 | Egg Move(s): None

dewey911p
27th November 2011, 7:30 AM
i know its possible to RNG your ID, but is it possible to RNG your SID as well? Or are the two connected (such as, your ID determins your SID). It would seem that there are 2 seperate RNGs for the two IDs and manipulating one to an exact number would make manipulating th other to an exact number hard to do or even impossible. But thats just my guess :p

Too Funk to Druck
27th November 2011, 8:03 AM
i know its possible to RNG your ID, but is it possible to RNG your SID as well? Or are the two connected (such as, your ID determins your SID). It would seem that there are 2 seperate RNGs for the two IDs and manipulating one to an exact number would make manipulating th other to an exact number hard to do or even impossible. But thats just my guess :p

You RNG for them at the same time in the same way.

dewey911p
27th November 2011, 9:38 AM
You RNG for them at the same time in the same way.

but that would mean that one is dependant on the other, right? for example, if my ID is 12345 and my SID is 54321, then that combo will always be the same, yes? So if i restart my game and RNG for the same ID i have now, my SID will also be the same?

Zenotwapal
27th November 2011, 11:37 PM
^Its pointless to RNG your SID/TID combo unless you want a low frame shiny seed to hit a lot, or you have really high seeds and your game outputs crappy natures with shinies.

Learn regular Standard Seed RNGing (5th Gen).\

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=824

rng abuse on the dsi and 3ds will be in reporter soon.
OMG YEYEYEYEYEYEYEYEYEYEYSYSSYYEYSYS

i can almost RNG abuse on the 3ds now finally f*ck yes

NeohopeSTF
28th November 2011, 12:36 AM
I had a successful first RNG attempt for a Darmanitan for a Sun team.

Too Funk to Druck
28th November 2011, 2:06 AM
I had a successful first RNG attempt for a Darmanitan for a Sun team.

Congrats!

And for you guys who use RNG Reporter, version 9.9 is now out, and it now shows characteristics and has support for 3DS and DSi standard RNGing.

drothagreat0ne
28th November 2011, 2:09 AM
^Its pointless to RNG your SID/TID combo unless you want a low frame shiny seed to hit a lot, or you have really high seeds and your game outputs crappy natures with shinies.

Learn regular Standard Seed RNGing (5th Gen).\

OMG YEYEYEYEYEYEYEYEYEYEYSYSSYYEYSYS

i can almost RNG abuse on the 3ds now finally f*ck yes

The new version of PPRNG, 1.8.0, has it built in. If you have a Mac, go check it out.


*edit*

After a few weeks of searching, I finally found a workable seed. I did advances, adjusted accordingly, and now, I have this!:




http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/641.gif
#641 Tornadus | http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/type/flying.gif | ♂ | http://serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/quickball.png | http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png
Nature: Adamant | Ability: Prankster | Characteristic: Capable of taking hits.
Date: 01/17/2017 | Caught: Route 6
IVs: 31/31/31/x/31/31

Kalosian
28th November 2011, 1:31 PM
Good job on that Tornadus. Looks totally amazing.

And for you guys who use RNG Reporter, version 9.9 is now out, and it now shows characteristics and has support for 3DS and DSi standard RNGing.
Finally! This will also make breeding for non-shinies so much easier. I want to try it now, but must wait for a while...

Tarro57
28th November 2011, 3:51 PM
And for you guys who use RNG Reporter, version 9.9 is now out, and it now shows characteristics and has support for 3DS and DSi standard RNGing.

*Breathes heavily* HAHA! I thought that it would cost a lot of money, they must have gotten a lot of money. I'll test it out someday, probably not today since I am sick (have been since Thursday, think I have Strep or the Flu :( ).

The Eleventh
28th November 2011, 6:21 PM
Yes! RNGing on 3DS! Woo! At last! Etc!

Anyway, my Japanese Black version came today. I'm about to RNG my ID/SID for Tornadus.

jirachiuser1
28th November 2011, 9:03 PM
I haven't tried RNG in Dsi yet but you would need to use and external clock with its time perfectly matched with the Dsi time correct? If that's the case then I would much rather prefer RNG in a DS lite.

The Eleventh
28th November 2011, 9:47 PM
I haven't tried RNG in Dsi yet but you would need to use and external clock with its time perfectly matched with the Dsi time correct? If that's the case then I would much rather prefer RNG in a DS lite.
Yes, you would have to do that since there's no way to see your DS' time down to the second while using a DSi/3DS.

Tarro57
29th November 2011, 12:29 AM
Does anyone know what the XD Capture or whatever does? And when it and the 3rd Generation Shiny Egg will be up?

Too Funk to Druck
29th November 2011, 1:09 AM
Does anyone know what the XD Capture or whatever does? And when it and the 3rd Generation Shiny Egg will be up?

XD capture is for Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness captures which are still be researched. I don't know when they'll he up though.

kaiser soze
29th November 2011, 1:50 AM
**First check-in in a long time**

So apparently they cracked RNGing on the 3DS? Sounds good, looks like we got a long-term backup plan in case they decide to go 3DS-only on main titles :P. I got a 3DS a few months back, but I still make due with my DS lite for now.

TDawg
29th November 2011, 5:09 AM
**First check-in in a long time**

So apparently they cracked RNGing on the 3DS? Sounds good, looks like we got a long-term backup plan in case they decide to go 3DS-only on main titles :P. I got a 3DS a few months back, but I still make due with my DS lite for now.

That's awesome!^^ I got a 3DS awhile ago too, but will still use my ds lite just because. Also just downloaded the new RNG Reporter and all I have to say **** Yeah! XD Captures is awesome!

Fenyxfyr
29th November 2011, 8:25 AM
I've been following you all for a while now (I'm still setting up and going through the training vids). I am going to try breeding but I'd like to know more about natures. Beneficial natures are they the same for all pokemon? (ie Adamant) or does each species have a prefered nature? If so what are the prefered natures and is there someplace that has a list that I can use? Any help is appreciated.

Sonikku za Hejjihoggu
29th November 2011, 8:46 AM
I've been following you all for a while now (I'm still setting up and going through the training vids). I am going to try breeding but I'd like to know more about natures. Beneficial natures are they the same for all pokemon? (ie Adamant) or does each species have a prefered nature? If so what are the prefered natures and is there someplace that has a list that I can use? Any help is appreciated.

They are the same for every Pokemon. Preference is purely a matter of the person.

A decent preference would be something like wanting an Adamant Zekrom over say, a Modest one - which really doesn't help its gigantic Attack stat.

Fenyxfyr
29th November 2011, 8:50 AM
I personally like attack power followed by defense, then HP. So which natures would be better?

Sonikku za Hejjihoggu
29th November 2011, 8:51 AM
Again, preferred natures totally depend on the Pokemon and perhaps it's base stats or whatever you plan to use it for.

There are no HP augmenting natures, I'm afraid.

Fenyxfyr
29th November 2011, 8:58 AM
I appreciate your input. I've been SRing for nature/IV's for about a month, now I think I would like to RNG my DW pokemon and eggs for a more precise nature/IV. And thanks to the newest reporter, I won't have to dig out my old DS or DS Lite :P

Tarro57
29th November 2011, 4:42 PM
@FenyxFyr
Here is a link to what natures help what stat: http://www.serebii.net/games/natures.shtml

Yeah, I have a Regular DS (aka "Phat") a DSiXL and a 3DS with the Ambassador Program which means I bought it for 250$. I get a lot of money and I'm only 13, and I do not get most of it from gifts, but from working. So I'm going to try Standard Seed on all of my DS's, that means I have 2 to go! I'll have to use an external clock though, they are hard to calibrate together for me.

The Eleventh
29th November 2011, 5:49 PM
I RNGed my ID/SID yesterday in Black. It was very easy. I haven't picked up my starter yet, though, so I think I'll give it a few max IVs. Simply because I can. :P

Wait, there's a new version of RNG Reporter already? What's new since 9.9?

Yeah, I have a Regular DS (aka "Phat") a DSiXL and a 3DS with the Ambassador Program which means I bought it for 250$. I get a lot of money and I'm only 13, and I do not get most of it from gifts, but from working. So I'm going to try Standard Seed on all of my DS's, that means I have 2 to go! I'll have to use an external clock though, they are hard to calibrate together for me.
Well I have a DS, a DSi, an XL and a 3DS. So yeah.

Kalosian
29th November 2011, 5:54 PM
Wait, there's a new version of RNG Reporter already? What's new since 9.9?
Appearently the following is new/fixed/improved:

- Improved: 5th Gen Nearby Shiny search now skips frames 1-39 to save time as they are impossible to reach
- Improved: Researcher window now clears when closed
- Improved: Fixed-Gender Wondercard renamed to UNGL (Unlocked Nature Gender Locked) Wondercard
- Improved: DPPt Egg PID renamed Gen 4 Egg PID
- Fixed: Menu item reads "Display Characteristics in Search" instead of "Display Parents in Search" when using Method 5 PIDRNG
- Fixed: a bug in which Time Finder was treating all searches as having the DSi type
- Fixed: a bug in which Nearby Shiny searches searched beyond the max frame
- Fixed: Time Finder now correctly calculates 3DS seeds for hours > 12
- Fixed: Simple Seed Generator now correctly calculates DSi\3DS seeds

Which doesn't seem to be that much. But it appearently fixed a major problem from 9.9.

I only got to use 9.9 for two different RNGs.

The Eleventh
29th November 2011, 6:20 PM
- Improved: 5th Gen Nearby Shiny search now skips frames 1-39 to save time as they are impossible to reach
- Improved: Researcher window now clears when closed
- Improved: Fixed-Gender Wondercard renamed to UNGL (Unlocked Nature Gender Locked) Wondercard
- Improved: DPPt Egg PID renamed Gen 4 Egg PID
- Fixed: Menu item reads "Display Characteristics in Search" instead of "Display Parents in Search" when using Method 5 PIDRNG
- Fixed: a bug in which Time Finder was treating all searches as having the DSi type
- Fixed: a bug in which Nearby Shiny searches searched beyond the max frame
- Fixed: Time Finder now correctly calculates 3DS seeds for hours > 12
- Fixed: Simple Seed Generator now correctly calculates DSi\3DS seeds
Oh fantastic. That explains why I couldn't hit my seeds last night. It also explains why I'm going to have to RNG my ID/SID again due to an incorrect roamer seed found. Brilliant.

Tarro57
29th November 2011, 7:18 PM
I RNGed my ID/SID yesterday in Black. It was very easy. I haven't picked up my starter yet, though, so I think I'll give it a few max IVs. Simply because I can. :P

Cool! Could you help me if I need help when I do that on my Jap. White? First I still need to get the parameters on it though.


Well I have a DS, a DSi, an XL and a 3DS. So yeah.

Do you have the Ambassador Program? But still cool to have all those, is your DS a "Lite" or "Phat"?

The Eleventh
29th November 2011, 8:02 PM
Cool! Could you help me if I need help when I do that on my Jap. White? First I still need to get the parameters on it though.
Sure. It's really not difficult at all. You shouldn't have any problems.

Do you have the Ambassador Program? But still cool to have all those, is your DS a "Lite" or "Phat"?
Yes, I do. Unfortunately, I have an original DS. :/

EDIT: I seem to be having difficulties while RNGing on my Black. I've found a seed I want to hit (Gift Pokémon, Frame 8), but when I try to hit it, I get the correct nature, but the wrong IVs. :/ I have no idea what's wrong.

Tarro57
29th November 2011, 9:52 PM
Sure. It's really not difficult at all. You shouldn't have any problems.

Yes, I do. Unfortunately, I have an original DS. :/

EDIT: I seem to be having difficulties while RNGing on my Black. I've found a seed I want to hit (Gift Pokémon, Frame 8), but when I try to hit it, I get the correct nature, but the wrong IVs. :/ I have no idea what's wrong.

Is it for a starter?

Kalosian
29th November 2011, 9:57 PM
EDIT: I seem to be having difficulties while RNGing on my Black. I've found a seed I want to hit (Gift Pokémon, Frame 8), but when I try to hit it, I get the correct nature, but the wrong IVs. :/ I have no idea what's wrong.
I assume this is for your starter. According to the thread at Smogon, starters start at IV frame 1, so try changing to another seed which has your desired IVs at frame 1.
I have never RNGed a starter though, so if this should be wrong, I apologize.

drothagreat0ne
29th November 2011, 10:46 PM
I assume this is for your starter. According to the thread at Smogon, starters start at IV frame 1, so try changing to another seed which has your desired IVs at frame 1.
I have never RNGed a starter though, so if this should be wrong, I apologize.

This is correct.

The Eleventh
29th November 2011, 11:21 PM
I see. I thought all Gift Pokémon started on frame 8. Whoops. Oh well, I settled for a good-natured starter in the end.

Scorch5688
30th November 2011, 1:23 AM
Ok. I'm getting a bit fed up. I can't seem to hit my desired frame for RNGing on an English White. Generally, DSes and DSLites have start-up differentials of 1 right? Which means the game will have to be loaded 1 second before the desired time right? I'm able to do all of these accurately, based on calibrating my parameters. I have no problem hitting my times. My problem is I don't seem to be getting the correct IV spread as stated on RNG Reporter despite advancing the frame as stated.

Here's an example. My target frame is 25 on 1/11/2011 at 13:21:21 with no button presses. I would start the game at 13:21:20 so it seeds at 21. I then advance the frame by 24 by walking 768 steps with 4 pokemon in my party. It should be on frame 25 right? I'm going for a 31/31/31/x/31/31 but I haven't been able to get one. My situation is particularly annoying as I've RNG'd a capture before and it went off without a hitch. I'm doing capture (tall grass) RNGs by the way, using Standard (non C-Gear) Seeds.

If it would help, I'd like to note that I'm doing this on Route 5, but I'm making sure no NPCs, stationary or otherwise, are visible on my screen. I've also noted that my Timer0 sometimes changes from C7F to C7E. Also, despite starting in the same direction each time and moving along the same path (7x2 area), the shaking patches of grass that appear are not consistent.

Sidebar: As I was doing my first RNG (Route 1, Adamant Lilipup with Pickup), I was able to hit my seed consistently as well as advance the frame correctly, starting from the same spot and direction and encountering shaking grass in the same spot each time. Once I determined where my starting PID frame was after all the advancements, I realized it would take a while to advance the PID frame if I only had 1 Chatot. As such, I changed my party and added a few more Chatots for faster frame advancement. Note that these Chatots were the same i.e. I just made a couple of clones and put them into my party. With the new party with more Chatots, I did everything exactly as how I've been doing them but for some reason I ended up with a Patrat with a different nature (My starting frame had me catching a Rash male Lilipup with Pickup each time). When I changed my party back to the original party I had been using to RNG, everything was back to normal i.e. I hit my seed, did advancements correctly, shaking grass appeared where it was supposed to appear, etc. So anyway, my question is, does the party you use somehow affect Timer0 or your seed or something?

TDawg
30th November 2011, 5:53 AM
Ok. I'm getting a bit fed up. I can't seem to hit my desired frame for RNGing on an English White. Generally, DSes and DSLites have start-up differentials of 1 right? Which means the game will have to be loaded 1 second before the desired time right? I'm able to do all of these accurately, based on calibrating my parameters. I have no problem hitting my times. My problem is I don't seem to be getting the correct IV spread as stated on RNG Reporter despite advancing the frame as stated.

Here's an example. My target frame is 25 on 1/11/2011 at 13:21:21 with no button presses. I would start the game at 13:21:20 so it seeds at 21. I then advance the frame by 24 by walking 768 steps with 4 pokemon in my party. It should be on frame 25 right? I'm going for a 31/31/31/x/31/31 but I haven't been able to get one. My situation is particularly annoying as I've RNG'd a capture before and it went off without a hitch. I'm doing capture (tall grass) RNGs by the way, using Standard (non C-Gear) Seeds.

If it would help, I'd like to note that I'm doing this on Route 5, but I'm making sure no NPCs, stationary or otherwise, are visible on my screen. I've also noted that my Timer0 sometimes changes from C7F to C7E. Also, despite starting in the same direction each time and moving along the same path (7x2 area), the shaking patches of grass that appear are not consistent.

Sidebar: As I was doing my first RNG (Route 1, Adamant Lilipup with Pickup), I was able to hit my seed consistently as well as advance the frame correctly, starting from the same spot and direction and encountering shaking grass in the same spot each time. Once I determined where my starting PID frame was after all the advancements, I realized it would take a while to advance the PID frame if I only had 1 Chatot. As such, I changed my party and added a few more Chatots for faster frame advancement. Note that these Chatots were the same i.e. I just made a couple of clones and put them into my party. With the new party with more Chatots, I did everything exactly as how I've been doing them but for some reason I ended up with a Patrat with a different nature (My starting frame had me catching a Rash male Lilipup with Pickup each time). When I changed my party back to the original party I had been using to RNG, everything was back to normal i.e. I hit my seed, did advancements correctly, shaking grass appeared where it was supposed to appear, etc. So anyway, my question is, does the party you use somehow affect Timer0 or your seed or something?

Okay well first off WNPCs will advance your frame no matter what if they're on the screen or not. The party shouldn't effect the games RNG what so ever though. You might just have a bad case of the timer0 trolling you. Also try to get seeds on a frame of 1. It's more a personal preference but that makes it so so much easier to manipulate the PIDRNG. I don't really see anything that you may be doing wrong besides not hitting the seed or the timer0 just pissing you off.

Scorch5688
30th November 2011, 7:20 AM
Okay well first off WNPCs will advance your frame no matter what if they're on the screen or not. The party shouldn't effect the games RNG what so ever though. You might just have a bad case of the timer0 trolling you. Also try to get seeds on a frame of 1. It's more a personal preference but that makes it so so much easier to manipulate the PIDRNG. I don't really see anything that you may be doing wrong besides not hitting the seed or the timer0 just pissing you off.

Hey what's up TDawg? :p

So any NPC present in the area (on screen or not) as long as it's in the area will advance the frame? Route 1 has NPCs after surfing but in the area where Patrats and Lilipups are there are none. However, I did try to RNG again in that area and I was unable to get my desired IVs. I'm not sure though, I'm pretty sure it's my Timer0 because I really did find a change from C7F to C7E during one calibration.

By the way, does C-Gear/Delay based RNGing work with Sweet Scenters?

TDawg
30th November 2011, 7:26 AM
Hey what's up TDawg? :p

So any NPC present in the area (on screen or not) as long as it's in the area will advance the frame? Route 1 has NPCs after surfing but in the area where Patrats and Lilipups are there are none. However, I did try to RNG again in that area and I was unable to get my desired IVs. I'm not sure though, I'm pretty sure it's my Timer0 because I really did find a change from C7F to C7E during one calibration.

By the way, does C-Gear/Delay based RNGing work with Sweet Scenters?

Hey! Last question I can't answer. But yes that's correct. Route 1 does have NPCs. The OP has a list of the only places without NPCs that advance your frame. Yeah you should try to find out which timer0 you hit the most.

Scorch5688
30th November 2011, 7:29 AM
Hey! Last question I can't answer. But yes that's correct. Route 1 does have NPCs. The OP has a list of the only places without NPCs that advance your frame. Yeah you should try to find out which timer0 you hit the most.

Ah. OP? I would really like to see this list. Where can I find it? :)

EDIT: Found it. Once I posted this, I just realized OP meant opening post. XD Thanks man. :)

TDawg
30th November 2011, 7:34 AM
Ah. OP? I would really like to see this list. Where can I find it? :)

EDIT: Found it. Once I posted this, I just realized OP meant opening post. XD Thanks man. :)

Lol no problem. :)

Scorch5688
30th November 2011, 8:45 AM
Hmmm... How come one can RNG in Chargestone Cave B1F, Route 9 and Route 10? There are NPCs in these areas. The Doctor and Nugget Brothers in Chargestone Cave B1F, various Trainers on Route 9 and the Badge Gate Guard in the specified area in Route 10.

Too Funk to Druck
30th November 2011, 12:22 PM
Hmmm... How come one can RNG in Chargestone Cave B1F, Route 9 and Route 10? There are NPCs in these areas. The Doctor and Nugget Brothers in Chargestone Cave B1F, various Trainers on Route 9 and the Badge Gate Guard in the specified area in Route 10.

They either don't move, or they move in a set pattern.

TDawg
30th November 2011, 11:21 PM
Pretty stoked right now^^ Just got a JAP Black. Can't wait to RNG the damn thing!

jolteon135
1st December 2011, 5:44 AM
Hmmm... How come one can RNG in Chargestone Cave B1F, Route 9 and Route 10? There are NPCs in these areas. The Doctor and Nugget Brothers in Chargestone Cave B1F, various Trainers on Route 9 and the Badge Gate Guard in the specified area in Route 10.
Too Funk to Druck is correct but even if they were Wandering NPCs (not fixed path) you could still RNG in those areas. You have to learn how to RNG in areas with WNPCs if you plan on doing eggs.

Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN1wz0_6800)
Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciivZwSlS9g)

MSK
1st December 2011, 9:39 PM
Is it possible to RNG Reshiram in N's Castle after beating the Elite 4?
I found a flawless seed, which I've been hitting and trying to do PIDRNG advance with Chatot to get Timid nature. But no matter how many tries when I enter it's stats in Serebii's Iv calculator the only natures it could be are the neutral one's.
Obviously don't know what nature it is because you can't check full summary in middle of fight with N :(
Stats are HP 175, AT 140, D 120, SA 170, SD 140, Sp 110. which does equate to 31's in everything.
So need a little help before I complete the battle and save. If it is a neutral nature it's not so bad I suppose, especially as I managed to catch it in a Premier Ball!!! :)

drothagreat0ne
1st December 2011, 10:22 PM
Is it possible to RNG Reshiram in N's Castle after beating the Elite 4?
I found a flawless seed, which I've been hitting and trying to do PIDRNG advance with Chatot to get Timid nature. But no matter how many tries when I enter it's stats in Serebii's Iv calculator the only natures it could be are the neutral one's.
Obviously don't know what nature it is because you can't check full summary in middle of fight with N :(
Stats are HP 175, AT 140, D 120, SA 170, SD 140, Sp 110. which does equate to 31's in everything.
So need a little help before I complete the battle and save. If it is a neutral nature it's not so bad I suppose, especially as I managed to catch it in a Premier Ball!!! :)

If you saved in front of Reshiram and have no synchronizer, your best bet then would be to do PID advancements via Saving or Chatot Flips.


*edit*

After plugging in those numbers, the only natures that can give those numbers are neutral. It can be any one of them.

MSK
1st December 2011, 10:43 PM
That's the thing I've tried PID advancing 4 times with different advances to try and get the nature I want but every time it's come up with the same stats.
That's why I was confused??
Oh well I'll just make do with a neutral one. Only pity is I've got EV points from the Zekrom and Cofagrigus N and Ghetsis send out first. So have to work those into my training numbers.

TDawg
2nd December 2011, 12:35 AM
That's the thing I've tried PID advancing 4 times with different advances to try and get the nature I want but every time it's come up with the same stats.
That's why I was confused??
Oh well I'll just make do with a neutral one. Only pity is I've got EV points from the Zekrom and Cofagrigus N and Ghetsis send out first. So have to work those into my training numbers.

Well did you even look on the main page to see if a Timid or Modest or whatever the hell nature you were looking for was close? And you can always EV cleanse him so he doesn't have random ones

MSK
2nd December 2011, 5:59 AM
Yes I had Timid at 51 (Starting frame 43), so did 8 Chatot flips first time. Came out neutral so checked, nearest was Serious at 55 so was thinking N or the Zekrom might count as a WNPC so tried 4 Chatot flips next time, then 5, then 6. But each time got the Neutral stats.
I finished the battle and saved. My nature was Bashful in the end!! Not even a Bashful one anywhere near on the list???
Very confused but hey a neutral 31/31/31/31/31/31 Reshiram in a Premier Ball isn't so bad :)

TDawg
2nd December 2011, 6:48 AM
Oh weird. Well at least you're happy with it,

Vandslaux
3rd December 2011, 6:47 AM
You can just lose the battle and check it's nature.

BTW, to everyone, the Victini has been released, so it can now be Wondercard RNGed.

I hope I'm getting a DS Lite for Christmas so I can start RNGing.

Sonikku za Hejjihoggu
3rd December 2011, 7:15 AM
Actually, a DS Lite isn't really needed anymore, as standard seeds can be abused on DSi/3DS now.

Vandslaux
3rd December 2011, 7:47 AM
Somebody FINALLY cracked it? OMG OMG OMG *does happy dance*

So I should try RNGing wild pokemon before I get to legends, breeding, the Victinis, etc.?

TDawg
3rd December 2011, 7:56 AM
Eh honestly stationairy legends are easier then wild pokes

Vandslaux
3rd December 2011, 8:17 AM
I'm trying to RNG one of my Victinis, but when I press generate, it takes me to the 3rd Gen Shiny Egg tab. IDK why.

MSK
3rd December 2011, 10:16 AM
What starting frame is it for Wondercards? Gonna get me that Victini :)
(Saying that still gotta pick up my Jap Mewtwo as well!!)

On that note gonna try and find a flawless seed but what nature do people reckon is best for Victini since it has both Special and Physical moves??

The Eleventh
3rd December 2011, 12:33 PM
@MSK, Wondercards work differently to standard seeds. Chatot flips are used to RNG IVs. Check the Smogon guide (http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/bw_rng_part6) for more information. An Adamant or Jolly nature would be best for this Victini, since you can use V-create and Fusion Flare/Bolt.

~Sam~
3rd December 2011, 1:03 PM
ok i tried the guids and stuff on the first post but i just cant understand. I need some easier guide. They all seem to assume that you have RNGed before.

Zenotwapal
3rd December 2011, 4:15 PM
Gonna go after the Victini event.

Just to confirm, the Wondercard events work just like Stationary Legends, right?

The Eleventh
3rd December 2011, 4:17 PM
Gonna go after the Victini event.

Just to confirm, the Wondercard events work just like Stationary Legends, right?
No, they don't. Check my post on the previous page for more details.

Zenotwapal
3rd December 2011, 5:05 PM
Aight, I hit the seed for my Black.
Got myself a 31/31/31/x/31/31 Adamant Victini.

Gonna RNG my brothers games for it, then maybe my 3DS but i dunno yet....

The Eleventh
3rd December 2011, 5:12 PM
I'm in the process of getting the same. I keep finding Jolly seeds, but no Adamant ones.

Zenotwapal
3rd December 2011, 5:22 PM
Lucky I found a Adamant seed immediately through the time finder...

I can't seem to find one with my brothers games.... I might have to find seeds with 3 keypresses. (3 are a pain in the *** though)

The Eleventh
3rd December 2011, 7:11 PM
I found a seed. Now I've got a 31/31/31/x/31/31 Adamant Victini. I'm looking forward to EV training it.

Wondercard RNGing is very easy. I'm looking forward to RNGing Thundurus in two weeks.

drothagreat0ne
3rd December 2011, 7:24 PM
SpeedSuicune, let's hope that you have an easier time than I did obtaining the roamer. I don't think I want to go through that again.

Hey guys, I have two questions before I RNG Victini.

1. Is it possible to get it shiny?
2. I see that people are going with Adamant. Besides that one, which natures suit Victini?

The Eleventh
3rd December 2011, 7:45 PM
SpeedSuicune, let's hope that you have an easier time than I did obtaining the roamer. I don't think I want to go through that again.
Well, I was referring to the upcoming Japanese event, but I'll also be RNGing Tornadus in Black, so I guess your point still applies. :P

Hey guys, I have two questions before I RNG Victini.

1. Is it possible to get it shiny?
2. I see that people are going with Adamant. Besides that one, which natures suit Victini?
It's not possible for any Victini to be shiny at the moment. Jolly would be a good nature for Victini as well, although Naive could be chosen if you want to run a mixed set.

drothagreat0ne
3rd December 2011, 7:47 PM
Thanks. I guess Adamant or Jolly it is.

Good luck on Tornadus when you get to it, Speed.

TDawg
3rd December 2011, 7:47 PM
SpeedSuicune, let's hope that you have an easier time than I did obtaining the roamer. I don't think I want to go through that again.

Hey guys, I have two questions before I RNG Victini.

1. Is it possible to get it shiny?
2. I see that people are going with Adamant. Besides that one, which natures suit Victini?

No all wondercards have a shiny lock unless meant to be shiny. And Jolly, Naive, Hasty, Timid, Brave, blah blah. Almost any nature works. Just depends on what you're trying to do with guy.

Scorch5688
3rd December 2011, 7:52 PM
The latest version in 9.92 right? God I hated 9.90, gave me such a hard time. I was hitting seeds correctly, but I wasn't getting the IVs that I was supposed to.


Actually, a DS Lite isn't really needed anymore, as standard seeds can be abused on DSi/3DS now.

Standard seeds on the DSi/3DS? I thought one can only use C-Gear/delay based RNGing on these types of DS.

The Eleventh
3rd December 2011, 7:57 PM
The latest version in 9.92 right? God I hated 9.90, gave me such a hard time. I was hitting seeds correctly, but I wasn't getting the IVs that I was supposed to.
Yup, 9.92. There was a bug in 9.90 that caused Reporter to use only DSi parameters in its searches.

Standard seeds on the DSi/3DS? I thought one can only use C-Gear/delay based RNGing on these types of DS.
Nope, as of 9.90, all DS consoles and 3DS can be used.

Kalosian
3rd December 2011, 9:04 PM
Well, I was referring to the upcoming Japanese event, but I'll also be RNGing Tornadus in Black, so I guess your point still applies. :P
I really hope the rest of the world will get this event in the future. It would make the roamers so much easier to RNG.

But now, for the event Victini... seems like everybody is doing it. I just got mine:


http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bw/494.png
#494. Victini
OT: Movie14 | ID: 12031 | Genderless
Nature: Brave | Ability: Victory Star | Type: Psychic / Fire
Hidden Power: Ice [64] | Location obtained: Fateful Encounter as a Wi-Fi Gift
IVs: 31 HP | 31 Atk | 31 Def | 31 SpA | 31 SpD | 0 Spe
Moves: V-Create / Fusion Bolt / Fusion Flare / Searing Shot

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bw/494.png
#494. Victini
OT: Movie14 | ID: 12031 | Genderless
Nature: Jolly | Ability: Victory Star | Type: Psychic / Fire
Hidden Power: Dark [70] | Location obtained: Fateful Encounter as a Wi-Fi Gift
IVs: 31 HP | 31 Atk | 31 Def | 15 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: V-Create / Fusion Flare / Fusion Bolt / Searing Shot


Went for Brave and Jolly as I had got a Japanese Adamant one in a trade earlier.

Not done much else lately as I have mainly been doing RNG requests for other people. Will take a break from that soon to focus on my own stuff. Done the following though:


http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bws/607.png
#607. Flashblack (Litwick) (★)
OT: Snacko | ID: 61034 | Gender: Female
Nature: Modest / Timid | Ability: Flash Fire | Type: Ghost / Fire
Hidden Power: Ice [70] | Location caught: Celestial Tower
IVs: 31 HP | 2 Atk | 30 Def | 31 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Will-O-Wisp / Flame Burst / Imprison / Hex

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bws/610.png
#610. Haxinator (Axew) (★)
OT: Snacko | ID: 61034 | Gender: Male
Nature: Adamant | Ability: Mold Breaker | Type: Dragon
Hidden Power: Electric [70] | Location hatched: Dragonspiral Tower
IVs: 31 HP | 31 Atk | 31 Def | 22 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: Night Slash / Iron Tail / Dragon Claw / Hone Claws
Undecided which nature to use for the Litwick, but I caught it with both Modest and Timid.

Sonikku za Hejjihoggu
3rd December 2011, 9:15 PM
http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/016.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/anim/494.gif

#494 Victini|Adamant|Victory Star|31|31|31|12|31|31|
|V-create|Fusion Flare|Fusion Bolt|Searing Shot|
|Wi-fi Movie 14 Victini|


More to come...probably.

Vandslaux
3rd December 2011, 9:20 PM
I'm trying to RNG my Victini. Looking at the Smogon guide, min frame 55? Also, min/max delay?

Also, does anybody have a Chatot they could breed?

Sonikku za Hejjihoggu
3rd December 2011, 9:27 PM
50/85 was my min/max, but wound up with a frame of 66 with the IVs.

The Eleventh
3rd December 2011, 9:30 PM
I'm trying to RNG my Victini. Looking at the Smogon guide, min frame 55? Also, min/max delay?
You don't need to input delays, as you should be using Method 5 (Standard Seed).

Vandslaux
3rd December 2011, 9:31 PM
Just wondering, I know Victini can't be shiny, but for future reference, for 5th gen RNGing shinies, do you need your SID?

For Victini, I'm using 5th gen (Wondercard pokemon).

And, for RNGed pokemon trading, do people usually want flawless, even in the hindering/useless stats?

The Eleventh
3rd December 2011, 9:38 PM
Just wondering, I know Victini can't be shiny, but for future reference, for 5th gen RNGing shinies, do you need your SID?
Yes, you'll need your SID.

And, for RNGed pokemon trading, do people usually want flawless, even in the hindering/useless stats?
Most people don't care about the useless stats, so you should be fine with trading pent-flawless Pokémon.

Vandslaux
3rd December 2011, 9:50 PM
Then could somebody help me find my SID? I have the random shiny needed. Pokecheck doesn't work on my comp, my internet provider blocks it.

Also, does anybody have a Chatot I could breed? You can't find it in BW.

drothagreat0ne
3rd December 2011, 9:51 PM
Here's my event Victini. Rather easy to get, but got confused along the way with the characteristics.:



http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/494.gif
#494 Victini | http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/type/psychic.gifhttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/type/fire.gif | Genderless | http://serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/cherishball.png
Nature: Adamant | Ability: Victory Star | Characteristic: Likes to thrash about.
Date: 12/06/2011 | Event: Movie14
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31

Vandslaux
3rd December 2011, 9:55 PM
My Victini is taking so long to find a Seed >_<

Vandslaux
4th December 2011, 12:26 AM
I gave up on Victini for now, and now I'm confused. The seed said 2 for the frame, but when I press calculate PIDRNG, it says initial frame 50. ???

Too Funk to Druck
4th December 2011, 12:30 AM
I gave up on Victini for now, and now I'm confused. The seed said 2 for the frame, but when I press calculate PIDRNG, it says initial frame 50. ???

You have to have the frames in time finder from 40-60. instead of the normal 1, because the PID and the IV RNGs are linked together for Wondercards.

jirachiuser1
4th December 2011, 12:35 AM
http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/bw_rng_part6

Here's the Smogon guide for anyone who wants to RNG Victini. Currently doing the same myself!

Too Funk to Druck
4th December 2011, 12:38 AM
http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/bw_rng_part6

Here's the Smogon guide for anyone who wants to RNG Victini. Currently doing the same myself!

I actually just finished mine, and it was extremely easy. The only annoying thing was manually checking its IVs since I haven't beaten the Elite 4 yet.

Vandslaux
4th December 2011, 12:58 AM
What's the best min/max frame so it doesn't take an extremely long time?

Too Funk to Druck
4th December 2011, 1:03 AM
What's the best min/max frame so it doesn't take an extremely long time?

Min should probably be around 50/55 while max should be up to however how you're comfortable with. I did 200.

Vandslaux
4th December 2011, 1:05 AM
Every min/max I try, it ends up taking SOOOOOOO long. Is it because I'm not being flexible with the IVs?

Too Funk to Druck
4th December 2011, 1:08 AM
Every min/max I try, it ends up taking SOOOOOOO long. Is it because I'm not being flexible with the IVs?

Maybe. Are you going for hex flawless or pent-flawless? You also just might not be lucky with seeds in the month + year you're doing it in.

Regardless, you're going to have to be patient.

Vandslaux
4th December 2011, 1:10 AM
I'm doing it in this month. I guess I can accept pent-flawless.

Finding seeds is so frustrating for wondercards >_<

I'm going for 31/31/31/x/31/31.

Too Funk to Druck
4th December 2011, 1:12 AM
Like I said, be patient. You'll find a seed.

Are you using three keypresses as well?

Vandslaux
4th December 2011, 1:13 AM
Oh lol, I was supposed to? I was using 0.

Too Funk to Druck
4th December 2011, 1:15 AM
That would make it easier to find seeds. You're pretty unlikely to find good seeds without keypresses.

jirachiuser1
4th December 2011, 1:22 AM
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/f/ff/Bag_Cherish_Ball_Sprite.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/494.gif
Victini; Level 50
OT: Movie14 | ID: 12031 | Gender: None
[/B]Nature: Jolly | Ability: Victory Star | Type: Fire / Psychic
Hidden Power: Dark (70) | Fateful encounter
IVs: 31 HP | 31 Atk | 31 Def | 31 SpA | 31 SpD | 31 Spe
Moves: V-Create / Fusion Flare / Fusion Bolt/ Searing Shot

Really easy RNG to do plus I got a Flawless Jolly Seed at Frame 81 without any key presses!

Vandslaux
4th December 2011, 1:31 AM
I got a seed. IDK what the time means, though, or when I'm supposed to advance the frame.

drothagreat0ne
4th December 2011, 1:35 AM
Now that you have a seed, go for it like you would a standard seed. Advance PID frames accordingly and you're good to go.

Vandslaux
4th December 2011, 1:38 AM
This is my first RNG. IDK what the times mean (when to enter the game or when to pick it up?) and when do I advance the frames?

Too Funk to Druck
4th December 2011, 1:41 AM
This is my first RNG. IDK what the times mean (when to enter the game or when to pick it up?) and when do I advance the frames?

You enter the game from the DS menu 1 sec before the time in time finder(unless you're doing it on a DSi/3DS which may be different). You advance the frame using by viewing a Chatot's summary after giving it a custom Chatter or by saving.

jirachiuser1
4th December 2011, 1:42 AM
This is my first RNG. IDK what the times mean (when to enter the game or when to pick it up?) and when do I advance the frames?

Well have you calibrated yet? I assume you have. You should try something easier such as Stationary Legends/ Wild Pokemon. Although Wondercard is comparatively easy, you would need at least some experience to understand what the terms mean/what to do. Also you would need a Chatot with recorded Chatter to RNG Victini.

drothagreat0ne
4th December 2011, 1:44 AM
This is my first RNG. IDK what the times mean (when to enter the game or when to pick it up?) and when do I advance the frames?

Well,:

*prerequisites*
- Save in front of the Delivery man, preferrably at the Pokemon League (no NPCs).
- Have a Chatot on hand


1. The time is when you start your game.
2. Do a controlled receiving first, by which I mean no Chatot flips to find out your Starting frame. (if you chose a Center that has WNPCs)
3. Since the Pokemon league has no wandering NPCs, you'll be landing on the initial frame (the Calculated Starting Frame).
4. Once you have that info, restart, do your Chatot flips to get to your desired frame (like a standard seed).
5. Profit