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Tarro57
29th November 2011, 6:02 PM
I would like to note very quickly that this might not be very good as this is my first real deck and I have no experience. This deck deals with water so I'll just get started.

Pokemon (20):
Feraligatr Prime 2-1-2
Blastoise 2-1-2
Cleffa 2
Kyurem 3

Trainers (26):

Items (13):
Eviolite x3
Junk Arm x3
Switch x2
Rare Candy x3
Pokemon Communication x4

Supporters (12):
Flower Shop Lady
Fisherman
Professor Elm's Training Method
Twins x3
Professor Oak x4
Pokemon Collector x4

Stadiums (1):
Burned Tower

Energy (14):
Water Energy x8
Rescue Energy x2
Double Colorless Energy x4

Please post what you think I should change, I know it isn't the best I could have done but it's my first. All comments are appreciated. :)

Twilightphoenix
29th November 2011, 6:20 PM
dont you need totodial, crocaknaw, ducklet, and tentacool? im not very familiar with some of the trainer cards that your useing but im fairly certain that they at least require you to have the preevolution form.

Tarro57
29th November 2011, 7:14 PM
dont you need totodial, crocaknaw, ducklet, and tentacool? im not very familiar with some of the trainer cards that your useing but im fairly certain that they at least require you to have the preevolution form.

When I said Feraligatr/Feraligatr Prime 3-2-3, that means 3 stage 2 Pokemon, 2 stage 1 Pokemon, and 3 Basic Pokemon in that order, so 3 Feraligatr/Feraligatr Prime, 2 Croconaw, and 3 Totodile. I can skip stage 1 Pokemon though by using a Rare Candy.

Twilightphoenix
29th November 2011, 10:00 PM
ok. i was wondering why you 2-3 etc...

Tarro57
30th November 2011, 12:14 AM
I don't understand you're question...

Lumos77
30th November 2011, 1:12 AM
Beyond this tangent, you should never run swanna/tentacruel. Run Blastoise, Cleffa, and Beartic
- 4 Catcher
- 2-1 Swanna
- 2-1 Tentacruel
- 6 Water Energy
- 2 Energy Search
- 2 PETM
- 2 Juniper
- 2 Cheerleaders Cheer
- 2 Emcee's Chatter
Total: 26

+ 2-1-2 Blastoise/Samurott
+ 2-2 Beartic
+ 2 Cleffa
+ 2 DCE
+ 2 Rare Candy
+ 4 Pokemon Communication
+ 4 Proffessor Oak
+ 3 Pokemon Collector
Total: 26

Most of the TSS line had to be rewired, but this deck is a tried and tested deck that should do well.

PS: If you don't have these cards, don't worry. Most are staples and any league should have them for trade.

Tarro57
30th November 2011, 1:52 AM
Beyond this tangent, you should never run swanna/tentacruel. Run Blastoise, Cleffa, and Beartic
- 4 Catcher
- 2-1 Swanna
- 2-1 Tentacruel
- 6 Water Energy
- 2 Energy Search
- 2 PETM
- 2 Juniper
- 2 Cheerleaders Cheer
- 2 Emcee's Chatter
Total: 26

+ 2-1-2 Blastoise/Samurott
+ 2-2 Beartic
+ 2 Cleffa
+ 2 DCE
+ 2 Rare Candy
+ 4 Pokemon Communication
+ 4 Proffessor Oak
+ 3 Pokemon Collector
Total: 26

Thanks, but why 2 Cleffa? I'll update the list with those.


PS: If you don't have these cards, don't worry. Most are staples and any league should have them for trade.

I don't have about 20 of the cards in my original post, most of them trainers, 3 Kyurem, and 3 Feraligatr Primes/ 1 Feraligatr.

ven?
30th November 2011, 3:12 AM
To slow...


3-2-3 Feraligatr Prime
2-2-2 Samurott (Ability)
1 shaymin UD
2 Cleffa
3 Kyurem


3 Rare Candy
3 dual ball
2 twins
2 switch
4 Pokemon Communication
1 professor elm's training method
1 Flower Shop Lady (you're running rescue, you don't need more then 1)
4 Professor Oak's new theory
1 Burned Tower


8 Water Energy
2 Rescue Energy
4 Double Colorless Energy

You have samurott and kyurem so you don't need beartic as it just wastes space, I added more trainer's for search and supporter's to grab out the trainer's, because lets face it, you only need pokemon search supporter's for a trainer lock deck, nothing else, you play more supporter's in a non-trainer lock deck, and alot of the top decks are seeming to walk away from it for additional type's of play, this being said, it's almost better to play what you can as fast as you can, yo waste a supporter turn grabing basic's, you just shot yourself in the foot for not grabbing more, the only way the basic grab work's is if you have actual use for it, but there is no use for it in a stage evo support and sub attacker deck, regardless of the main line attacker.

P.S. Not to mention but kyurem is way slower in theory of play then samurott.

P.S.S. also consider either rocky helmet or evolite.

Tarro57
30th November 2011, 3:55 AM
Crap! I knew I forgot something, that was Eviolite. Thanks ven?, especially with the whole Feraligatr/Prime business.

UPDATED: The Deck! Woot!

ven?
30th November 2011, 4:12 AM
you can only play a maximum of 4 cards per deck.

Lumos77
30th November 2011, 4:22 AM
And you only want 3 eviolite anyways.
Also, junk arm is a good idea.

Tarro57
30th November 2011, 4:35 AM
Yeah, forgot that, Updating the deck again with 3 Eviolite, 2 Switch, and a Junk Arm.

EDIT:

ven?, wouldn't 4 Professor Junipers be better than 4 Professor Oak's New Theory? Since for Juniper you discard deck and draw 7 cards when for Oak you discard your hand and draw six, one less than Juniper.

ven?
2nd December 2011, 5:37 AM
pont is better then juniper, reason, your milling yourself if you use juniper which means if you play juniper you have to play for the fast win or you lost due to drawing and discarding to many cards.

ShadowStrifer
3rd December 2011, 9:17 PM
PONT is shuffling your hand back into your deck and then drawing 6 cards. Means you can shuffle unused or dead cards from your hand back to your deck so you can get stuff you need or can use at that time.

ParaChomp
3rd December 2011, 10:01 PM
I've built a deck with Feraligatr Prime, I highly suggest Blastoise (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Blastoise_%28Unleashed_13%29) for more support. I'll come back latter to give you more pointers.

ven?
5th December 2011, 4:46 AM
lawl, play testing against blastoise I have to say that blastoise's 100 snipe is a valid idea however for this kind of deck where your taking out everything with pure spread damage theres almost no point running samrott, beacsue then all you would have to do is put in catcher and you have 100+ snipe damage versus 100-140 max.

Tarro57
5th December 2011, 11:33 PM
Okay, changing it to Blastoise instead of Samurott.

Lumos77
6th December 2011, 1:04 AM
My last change (your deck is quite solid) would be to max out junk arms and get another twins. How you make these changes is up to you, but I feel like a 2-1-2 feraligatr line is good enough, leaving 3 extra spaces, and the fourth should be a wortortle, but as blastoise is your only hope against gothitelle/vileplume, you might want to keep it.

Tarro57
6th December 2011, 1:36 AM
Will most likely change that, but first I have a question. What does the Shaymin do for me and what do the Cleffas do as well. And thank you all for all of your help with my deck, as it is my first. Hopefully I will get all of the cards I need to complete it for Christmas.

Lumos77
6th December 2011, 3:12 AM
Cleffa is an amazing starter, and the free retreat can be helpful when your unsure of what to do. However, I don't know why Shaymin is here, honestly. I would replace it with Fidherman, but Shaymin is great if you run Samorott. However, you don't, so I would take it out until you switch back.

ven?
7th December 2011, 3:28 PM
Wrongo, samurott with catcher's is better then blastoise.

Tarro57
7th December 2011, 10:18 PM
Updated! Hopefully it is better!

Also! Wouldn't another Flower Shop Lady be better than a Fisherman since a Fisherman has you get 4 Basic Energies from your Discard Pile when Flower Shop Lady has you get 3 Basic Energy and 3 Pokemon from your Discard Pile?

ven?
8th December 2011, 4:33 AM
If it's jut for energy no, fisherman is better because you get it back to your hand, but in this kind of deck you might as well run 2 or burnt tower with rescue energy.