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Aura Sensei™
9th April 2012, 6:39 PM
This is where I say bye to everybody from 5th Gen.IGRMT.Let's face it,this place is a mess.Team for playing with my friend.

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Serperior @Leftovers
{Overgrow}
~ Giga Drain
~ Leech Seed
~ Substitute
~ Toxic

Meh,standard set.Subseeding.

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Conkeldurr @Muscle Band
{Guts}
~ Bulk Up
~ Payback
~ Stone Edge
~ Hammer Arm

Set is self explanatory I guess.

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Chandelure @Wise Glasses
{Flame Body}
~ Flamethrower
~ Shadow Ball
~ Calm Mind
~ Energy Ball

Chandelure's defenses are good enough to set up.

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Excadrill @Life Orb
{Sand Rush}
~ Earthquake
~ Rock Slide
~ X-Scissor
~ Swords Dance

QuakeSlide coverage.

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Gothitelle @Leftovers
{Frisk}
~ Psychic
~ Shadow Ball
~ Thunder Wave
~ Calm Mind

T-W is just for paralysis.

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Cobalion @Leftovers
{Justified}
~ Sacred Sword
~ Stone Edge
~ Iron Head
~ Swords Dance

Pretty much a filler.

Well this marks my farewell,I'm only gonna reply to my remaining threads in this section.

P.S. If anybody wants to know where I'll be rating,it'll be 3rd and 4th Gen.

terrytorterra
9th April 2012, 6:49 PM
oh... well do you still want us to rate this?

Well I'd say Mach Punch somewhere on Conkeldurr, just cuz it's about the best 5th gen user of it.
Excadrill is pretty slow outside of sand, so I think another pokemon would do better. Though there's really few good ground types in 5th gen. Maybe a Seismitoad?

DiamondClass
9th April 2012, 7:17 PM
The Serperior could be more useful if you can add Light Screen on it. I would also suggest to include a water type move like Surf just for additional coverage but none of those pokemon might be a good fit for it.

Aura Sensei™
9th April 2012, 10:45 PM
@Terry Thanks for the suggestion but I'm not gonna be breeding for this team :) I didn't want to use Seismitoad since it isn't too good throughout the E4 ;) Thanks though

@DiamonClass Thanks for the suggestions :)

Flappy
9th April 2012, 10:54 PM
Just one question this is a team you will be battling with against your friend or your just playing pokemon together?

Aura Sensei™
9th April 2012, 11:26 PM
We're gonna be something like rivals and battle each other throughout the game ;)

Flappy
9th April 2012, 11:29 PM
We're gonna be something like rivals and battle each other throughout the game ;) Throughout the game? Sorry but im confused. You two could wireless battle each other if your in the same room with your DS's and stuff.

Aura Sensei™
9th April 2012, 11:35 PM
That's what I mean,we're doing wireless battles once we are at the same point in the game.

Flappy
10th April 2012, 12:08 AM
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Conkeldurr @ Muscle Band Flame Orb
Ability: Guts
-Bulk Up Facade
-Payback
-Stone Edge
-Hammer Arm
Your Conkeldurr may not have time to set up with a Bulk Up. So go with Facade Flame Orb Guts combo. If I am correct its even stronger than his STAB
Hammer Arm, also provides neutral coverage.

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Chandelure @ Wise Glasses Choice Scarf
Ability: Flame Body
-Flamethrower
-Shadow Ball
-Calm Mind Hidden Power(Ice or Fighting)/Psychic
-Energy Ball
If you can' gett any of those Hidden Power then just go with Psychic for some more coverage.

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Excadrill @ Expert Belt Air Balloon
Ability: Sand Rush
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide
-Shadow Claw/X-Scissor
-Swords Dance
X-Scissors is just another choice you don't have to go with it Shadow Claw is fine. Air Balloon for as if he has Levitate, takes care of Earthquake thats
for sure ;)

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Gothitelle @ Wise Glasses Leftovers
Ability: Frisk
-Psychic
-Focus Blast Thunderbolt
-Thunder Wave Shadow Ball
-Calm Mind
Covers Ghost weakness you might encounter and there is no Focus Blast so go with Thunderbolt for more of that coverage. She is pretty good Special Tank I will definately use her in the future.

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Cobalion @ Leftovers Choice Band
Ability: Justified
-Sacred Sword Close Combat
-Stone Edge
-Iron Head
-Swords Dance X-Scissor
Standard Revenge Killer set. Close Combat for STAB and very nice power. X-Scissor for more coverage.

Hope this helped!

はるひ
10th April 2012, 12:30 AM
I could be wrong but Gothitelle doesn't have Focus Blast. Even if she did, it's a bad move anyway because of the accuracy. I recommend Brick Break, Low Sweep or HP Fighting (tho BB would be better). Or since you have Conkeldurr, you can replace her fighting type moves with something like Rock Slide to hit ice, flying and fire types. (btw Gothitelle is my favorite)

Shine
10th April 2012, 1:02 AM
I want to say Gothitelle can't learn Focus Blast, but others have said that :p

Also, no Natures?






I recommend Brick Break, Low Sweep or HP Fighting (tho BB would be better).

I thought we already talked about Gothitelle's base 55 Attack

Eon Master
10th April 2012, 4:56 AM
I'm not back. I'm only rating this team because I see potential for improvement. Granted, it is his last 5th gen team (or so he says), but I'm hoping that he can pick up some clues as to how to rate and how to create teams from this.


This is where I say bye to everybody from 5th Gen.IGRMT.Let's face it,this place is a mess.Team for playing with my friend.

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/497.gif

Serperior @Leftovers
{Overgrow}
~ Giga Drain
~ Leech Seed
~ Substitute
~ Glare

Meh,standard set.Subseeding.

Tbh, I really don't like the combination of Toxic+Leech Seed. With Toxic in play, you're effectively cutting Serperior's potential recovery by an increasing amount each turn. That's why most SubSeed users that have the option go for Sleep Powder instead, since it makes SubSeeding easier to pull off without cutting your potential recovery.

Serperior can't learn Sleep Powder, but it can learn and make excellent use of Glare, which is highly effective and would be a major help in assisting the setup sweepers that make up most of your team. Though you say you're not breeding... well, that really sucks. That means you're taking away the absolute best option for this team.

If you're really dead-set on not breeding, then you have a few options. Reflect and Light Screen can be used to make things easier for your setup sweepers as well, while Torment could be used if you're aiming for a stall-ish set; Serperior is just fast and bulky enough to pull it off effectively.

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Conkeldurr @Muscle Band
{Guts}
~ Bulk Up
~ Payback
~ Stone Edge
~ Hammer Arm

Set is self explanatory I guess.

Conkeldurr kinda sucks without either Drain Punch or Mach Punch (or both). It also adds virtually nothing to your team; there's no need for another Rock-, Bug-, or Dark-type resist on this team, and the physical bulk is less than you'd think without EV/Nature investment, Drain Punch, or Leftovers. In fact, I'd say you should probably drop it and pick up a second Ground-type resist; three of your Pokemon are weak to ground and you only have one Ground-type resist in Serperior.

Elektross is my personal recommendation. No weaknesses, a Ground immunity thanks to Levitate, powerful offense and decent bulk. It can even set up, depending on how you use it. Pick whichever set you like, this team could work well with almost any of them.

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Chandelure @Wise Glasses
{Flame Body}
~ Flamethrower
~ Shadow Ball
~ Calm Mind
~ Energy Ball

Chandelure's defenses are good enough to set up.

You really think so? 60/90/90 isn't that bulky, especially considering that it's weak to the three most common offensive types in the game (Water, Rock, Ground) in addition to the fairly common Ghost- and Dark-type moves. The only way Chandelure is really "bulky" in any sense is if you use heavy EV investment in defenses and Hp and use natures, which I doubt you'll be doing.

Your team really lacks a dedicated revenge killer, and Chandelure would be perfect for that. I personally recommend:

Chandelure @ Choice Scarf
Nature: Timid (if you're not going for natures, whatever)
Ability: Flash Fire
- Fire Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Energy Ball
- Flamethrower (since I'm sure you won't do Hidden Powers)

Yeah, yeah, Choice Item in-game, big deal. Chandelure isn't that fast, but its power is inredible, enough to 2HKO basically anything not named Blissey/Chansey with one of its STABs or Energy Ball. Fairly standard Choice Chandy for in-game, Fire Blast is the power move for when you really need it, Shadow Ball is a useful secondary STAB, Energy Ball is coverage, and Flamethrower is just a filler and a way to abuse Fire-type STAB without wasting Fire Blast on something frail or weakened. Flame Body is a pretty weak ability compared to a psuedo-immunity to common Fire-type attacks and a boost from switching into them, especially given how frail Chandelure typically is, ergo, Flash Fire is superior.

If you don't want to do this, then that's your choice. I'm just giving you the best available option.

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Excadrill @ Life Orb
{Sand Rush}
~ Earthquake
~ Rock Slide
~ X-Scissor
~ Swords Dance

QuakeSlide coverage.

Two changes here. Expert Belt doesn't really help when Excadrill's coverage is neutral for the most part; you're better off using Life Orb or at very least a STAB booster like Soft Sand. Second, Shadow Claw is essentially worthless on Excadrill, the only things it hits harder than a STAB Earthquake or Rock Slide are the Levitating Ghost-types, and they're rare enough and frail enough that a +2 Rock Slide is enough to deal with them. X-Scissor provides you neutral coverage while also landing SE hits on bulky Grass-types who might ruin your sweeping fun.

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Gothitelle @ Leftovers
{Frisk}
~ Psychic
~ Thunderbolt
~ Thunder Wave / Shadow Ball
~ Calm Mind

T-W is just for paralysis.

Gothitelle can't learn Focus Blast, like everybody and their mother already said. Thunderbolt provides better coverage anyway, and is a more accurate coverage move. If you decide to go with Glare on Serperior (or to put Thunder Wave on my suggested Elektross), you could also replace Thunder Wave with Shadow Ball. Finally, Leftovers > Wise Glasses, since it seems like you're going for a bulky ParaSweeper here.

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Cobalion @Leftovers
{Justified}
~ Sacred Sword
~ Stone Edge
~ Iron Head
~ Swords Dance

Pretty much a filler.

But it's an excellent one. Cobalion can take large amounts of physical punishment and it's a good SD sweeper; to say nothing of its brilliant typing having excellent synergy with your team. No real changes here, since Cobalion is better off keeping its bulk in-game.

Well this marks my farewell,I'm only gonna reply to my remaining threads in this section.

P.S. If anybody wants to know where I'll be rating,it'll be 3rd and 4th Gen.

Changes/comments in bold. As far as I can tell, you mainly focus on individual sets and thus loose out on synergy and how your team members' types overlap. Work on that, and you'll improve by leaps and bounds in both rating and team creation. Other than that, I can only advise you to carefully check neutral coverage when you're going over Pokemon with limited movepools like Excadrill. Not bad at all, really.

terrytorterra
10th April 2012, 6:03 AM
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Conkeldurr @ Muscle Band Flame Orb
Ability: Guts
-Bulk Up Facade
-Payback
-Stone Edge
-Hammer Arm
Your Conkeldurr may not have time to set up with a Bulk Up. So go with Facade Flame Orb Guts combo. If I am correct its even stronger than his STAB
Hammer Arm, also provides neutral coverage.


Conkeldurr's super bulky, and its presence will definitely scare something out to let you set up if played right. and i trust logan will be able to play him right.

and I think Sacred Sword is a better move with swords dance, as on his original set. With Cobalion's bulk and resistances, he'll easily find time to throw up a swords dance and sweep regardless of any defense boosts the opponent has, without having to sacrifice that bulk using CC.
however, if you use it as a revenge killer, I think adamant and choice scarf will make it more destructive

davidchu
10th April 2012, 9:27 PM
If you give Serperior Dual Screens for battling your friend, then Chandelure would be VERY scary that way. But if you don't, it'll probably get KO'd after the Calm Mind.

Aura Sensei™
11th April 2012, 12:16 AM
Thanks guys,I made some changes according to all the suggestions :)