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Serebii
11th August 2005, 5:16 PM
http://www.serebii.net/anime/NextOn/415.jpgRough, Tough Jigglypuff

Enroute to the Battle Arena & Saffron City, Ash & Co. get caught in a trap a man has made in order to catch a Jigglypuff. Disheartened by his failure to capture, the man requests Ash & Co.'s help. Will they be able to get this Jigglypuff?

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Discuss

Black Marauder
11th August 2005, 7:40 PM
I hope they get the Jigglypuff... So, the title is referring to the man's song, not anything related to Jigglypuff?.... *waits for summary*

jolteonjak
12th August 2005, 4:07 AM
Did the episode air yet?

Heracross
12th August 2005, 4:15 AM
Yeah, it aired several hours ago in Japan, but at the moment it seems it's still not 'available' yet, if you know what I mean. ;P

kukkyou_ooraka
12th August 2005, 6:54 AM
Yeah, it aired several hours ago in Japan, but at the moment it seems it's still not 'available' yet, if you know what I mean. ;P

Hmmm.....I guess Ill just wait and see it tomorrow. :D

Darato
12th August 2005, 9:56 AM
So did the guy get it.

Serebii
12th August 2005, 10:01 AM
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Geki
12th August 2005, 3:23 PM
What a great filler, I liked it a lot. It's too bad that the Father had to leave the Jigglypuff at the end, I was surprised when Jiggly came back to the Father in the last minutes of the episode. Seeing all the group's Pokemon was a treat, we almost never get to see Swellow or Mudkip anymore. This filler was a lot better then the Kingdom of Onix, I must say. My favorite pic was this one http://www2.filb.de/anime/ag/138/046.jpg. Loudred looks weird! It is a different Jigglypuff everyone, not the same one that we have known for a long time.

Scamfly
12th August 2005, 5:43 PM
Looked at the pics.

Seemed like an okay filler. I didn't really enjoy it myself, but there has been worse... did the father catch Team Rocket mid-motto and show them pictures of his family? xD

So the general gist of the episode is (although you could look at the pictures yourself.. xD; ):
-Ash and the others are walking in the woods, and they get caught in a net. They struggle, naturally.
-A Loudred approaches them expectantly, along with a man.
-At the fathers' house, he shows them what appears to be a buisness card (._. although that makes no sense, it's just what it looks like in terms of size. if it were the picture of his family, they'd probably pan in and explain things then.) Then he introduces his Loudred and May looks it up on the Pokedex.
-I beleive he asks if they'd like to test his Pokefood. ^^; All of the pokemon are released and eating, and they all seem to like it a lot.
-They hear a rustling in the bushes, and theres' some suspence for a while, before Jigglypuff pops out!
-The father challenges it to a battle; as Jigglypuff opens it's mouth (presumably to sing), and the others become suprised, before the father sends Loudred forth. It's instantly infaturated. Brock motions that that's bad.
-Jigglypuff uses an attack which catches them off guard (the CG sparkles by it's mouth, and the flames.. I'm assuming it's a Metronomed-Flamethrower? o_o), followed by Sing.
-Jigglypuff leaves and Loudred snaps out of it (although he didn't fall asleep, of course). He sweatdrops at everyone sleeping before shaking the father awake. He glances around before yelling in frustration. Jigglypuff giggles at this.
-TR's baloon floats overhead. Of course, they chatter about capturing Pikachu and Meowth has his Giovanni-promotion-vision. They cheer.
-Back at the house, the pokemon are searching high and low for Jigglypuff. Inside the house, May becomes alerted by a picture on the mantlepiece. The father takes it down and explains that it's his family and that he wanted to capture a Jigglypuff for his daughter.
-(flashback) The daughter looks earnest, while the father (in a buisness-suit, denoting that he became a trainer for the sole purpose of capturing a Jigglypuff) looks suprised. We scan from a big city to the woods, where the father looks for a Jigglypuff. Seeing one, he throws a ball at it-- but Jigglypuff dodges them all and they lie in a pile behind them as it sits on his back, sung asleep. This sequence repeats twice in shorter ways. Then we see him studying by lamplight, followed by capturing and training Loudred.
-Everyone is quiet from the story; the father continues to explain a bit before (of course), our heroes offer their help.
-Team Rocket listens from an audio-device (I wanna' say sattelite, but I'm not sure. o.o), while eating riceballs. As Meowth fingers for the last one, he touches Jigglypuff's head, and becomes frantic. TR gets angry that it would even consider eating their food (or something along those lines :P), and challenge it. It swats Meowth out of the way (maybe all of them... x_o), and they become infuriated, but it sings them to sleep.
-Back at the house, the pokemon hear Jigglypuff's song from nearby. Loudred and Mudkip go inside to alert the humans, and Ash yells determinably.
-TR has awakened and are struggling against the ever-bombarding song. Jessie sends out Wobofett, but it isn't much help and they all fall asleep again. It smiles and approaches the basket containing the rice-ball, but falters as it sees the others are prepared for battle.
-The father commands Loudred to use Hyper Voice, and Jigglypuff seems unaffected. Ash then tells Pikachu to use Thunderbolt-- Jigglypuff isn't fazed by this either, as it jumps/floats before using Rollout on Pikachu. It flies into the air and Ash catches it before comfirming it's alright.
-Jigglypuff continues to rampage as TR sleeps. They awake (startled by the noise) and challenge the others, begenning to do their motto, before they're interrupted by the father, who seems to quiet them down by showing them pictures of his family. Loudred knocks them into the sky and blasts them off again...
-Jigglypuff appears to have run off for the moment. Ash appears to want to go and battle it right then, but Max chides him. May looks worried, and Ash prepares a pokeball before Brock stops him, having an idea...
-He has set out a bowl of his Pokefood, and is determined that Jigglypuff will like it. It approaches the bowl curiously but is turned off by the food. Brock is very dissapointed by this...
-Munchlax comes out and eats something out of May's hand, annoying everyone and making Jigglypuff laugh before it leaves.
-They chatter a while about their idea outside the house before Jigglypuff approaches. Loudred uses Hyper Voice to distract it while Ash and the others hold the door open. Jigglypuff begins using Rollout, and spins straight in to the house. They close the door-- their plan worked!
-Jigglypuff is obviously confused that it's now trapped inside the building, which is lined with steel walls. It glances around before Pikachu appears and uses Thunderbolt. It dodges and jumps, using the Metronomed-Flamethrower, which knocks Pikachu back. The others watch from outside the house. Jigglypuff slams Pikachu, making it pant. Afterwards it begins singing. The humans grin... Pikachu grits it's teeth but ends up succumbing to the song. Jigglypuff continues to sing and the musical notes bounce off the wall, eventually hitting itself and making it fall asleep.
-They all cheer and go inside. Ash wakes Pikachu up. They note to the father that he can capture the Jigglypuff now. He readies a pokeball and stares at the sleeping Pokemon for a few seconds before lowering the ball. He appears to have sympathy for it being asleep, and wouldn't want to capture it unaware. They chatter and he smiles towards his worthy advesary.
-Jigglypuff awakens as it is now night, and moonlight streams in through the window. It glances across the room, suprised at the bowl of food there...
-Back in the city with the fathers' family, the wife waters flowers in the front yard while the daughter runs up upon seeing her father. He kneels down and tells her that he was unable to capture a Jigglypuff, and that he tried (that's the general gist). The others smile. She smiles towards the Loudred and the father (in tears) hugs his easily-satisfied daughter.
-They become suprised as Jigglypuff flies overhead, bopping down beside the family. It appears to have gained the fathers' trust, and agrees to stay with them. The daughter hugs it. They all smile... May laughs at the girl and her new pokemon.

@_@ Woww, that took a long time to write. Hope that helps, people. ^^;

Nathan Madien
12th August 2005, 6:05 PM
Speaking of Jigglypuff, I wonder if this Jigglypuff has any connection with the OTHER Jigglypuff who is probably still wandering around Johto somewhere?

kukkyou_ooraka
12th August 2005, 6:09 PM
Speaking of Jigglypuff, I wonder if this Jigglypuff has any connection with the OTHER Jigglypuff who is probably still wandering around Johto somewhere?

Its possible, they could come from the same family or are possibly friends, coudnt they?

Alfonso
12th August 2005, 6:24 PM
Seen the episode.

...

Can I just say RIGHT NOW that the father dude is adorable. ;; He goes out to catch Jigglypuff for his daugther, but he has no idea what he's going and so just throws random Pokeballs at the thing. (This is shown in a flashback. At the time, he has no beard. XD) Then he starts reading up on how to be a Pokemon Trainer, and catches Loudred. ^^

The way he speaks is also adorable. See, he's a business man from some city, (With a wife and daugther... Risa-chan. :3) and so nearly every sentence he speaks is full of politeness. He's always thanking Ash and co. and apologising... he's really sweet. ^^o He also hands out his business card to the group, heh.

Thoughts on the episode~

- Only one Jigglypuff, as predicted. There was no Mimic Flamethrower, just Jigglypuff using it.

-Another Special Ability is shown here, Jigglypuff's... uh... you know, when you touch it, you become attracted. ._. Cute Charm or something, I believe. Loudred fell in love with Jigglypuff after using Megs Punch, and then Brock explained what is was.

- ...CG Flamethrower. Bleh.

- Gio fantasy was pretty funny. Gio does the splits. :D

- Pikachu gets OWNED by Jiggly in their first battle

- Mudkip gets... uh, some screentime. It's out of it's Pokeball a bit, and along with Loudred, heard Jigglypuff coming later on in the episode. And of course, Forry didn't get any decent screentime. It did get to give a pretty angry facial expression though, right before Jiggly appeared for the first time. :|

- wtf. Brock and Max actually do something of USE in this episode. Max is the one who thinks up the plan which eventually foils Jiggypuff, and Brock makes some food beforehand to try to capture the 'puff... he tells Mr. Dad that he's Breeder and so of course knows what he's doing... until Jiggly turns its nose up at Brock's food and the poor Brockster is all WTFFFFFFFF NOOOOOOOOO and hangs his poor head in shame.

No a lot, but something.

- Team Rocket have a small role in this episode. They don't even finish their motto.

- Wobbuffet, right before going to sleep, pops up with some night/sleeping gear. lol. XD

- There's a pretty funky intrumental of the Battle Frontier intro. Pretty cool.

- Speaking of music DEAR GOD NO. wtf are the Japanese music people doing? We have that awful 'Waaaa waaaa waaaaaah!' music in this episode, as well as the stupid a*s music me and Gravy hate. -_-;

- Oh, and I don't believe there was any mention or flashback to the other Jiggly. :P

BTW, this isn't in order. -_- Just random points about the episode. :0

Sushi
12th August 2005, 6:39 PM
The first half of this episode was a bit boring, but the second half definitely made up for it.
Team Rocket saying their motto while blasting off was quite funny, as well as Brock's reaction when Jigglypuff didn't show any interest in his Pokémon food.
Good sound and animation effects in the Pikachu vs. Jigglypuff battle, the whole thing was quite entertaining.
At last, they used pretty good music in this episode. Yay for the Regi music and the Karaoke version of 'Battle Frontier' (although it sounds slightly differently than the instrumental version on the CD).

Team Rocket Admin
12th August 2005, 7:48 PM
I wanted to see the other Jigglypuff again. I guess they wrote it out of the show.

Gravy
12th August 2005, 8:05 PM
- Wobbuffet, right before going to sleep, pops up with some night/sleeping gear. lol. XD
That part was awesome XD If Chimecho had came out too, that would have been the cherry on the cake.


They've officially started to go overboard with the CG animated attacks in this show. Even Loudred's Mega Punch was given a (totally unessicary) CG glowing effect. Are they being forced to put this stuff in at knifepoint or something?

I'm getting kind of tired of all these really dire sounding little tunes they seem to be inserting into episodes recently. I'm sure they've got some much better music at their disposal to use for those 'funny' or crazy kinds of scenes.
The scene where Team Rocket charge at Jiggly only be face a Flamethrower at full blast had some really nice zany sounding music for example. Its much more preferable than a lot of the new, cartoony Hanna-Barbera-esque rubbish they're putting in these days.
But I'm glad that they finally managed to get the Regi music into an episode again. They seem to play it very rarely these days, and its a shame because its really quite cool sounding. And the karaeoke version of Battle Frontier was pretty neat too.

Munchlax fails at being funny. Again.
Though Jigglypuff doesn't. I had to laugh as it completely snubbed Brock's pokémon food. As well as Brock's shocked reaction to Jiggly's taste in food. And having it beat the stuffing out of Pikachu was a real treat..

So...umm...where the HELL did they get all of those metallic plates lining the entire interior of that little shack?
And none of those Thunderbolts or Flamethrowers managed to hit the windows?
Gotta love animé logic.

Its dissapointing that there was absolutely no reference to the marker-weilding 'puff that has been around since the early days. That was the biggest letdown this episode had. And after having it around for such a long time, I found it to be rather awkward having this random Jigglypuff come along and have a whole episode focusing on it. Surely I can't be the only one who thinks thats just wrong? :/ A whole episode with Jigglypuff and no temper tantrums resulting in ink-coated mugs? It just didn't feel right at all.
Overall, I found the whole thing to be...well..,really quite boring. Despite actually seeing a Jigglypuff put up a kickass fight, there was nothing very interesting about this episode at all. Just seemed like a waste of time to me.

V Faction
12th August 2005, 9:31 PM
Well, as far as my opinion goes, this > Kingdom of Onix episode.

It had Kanto-ish feel (though I suppose that's a bit redundant now that we're back in Kanto). It had that, 'I'm a Filler, but I'm a good episode' sense. For example, the Father character was a great CotD. There should be more Poke-People like him. And then we had Jigglypuff, which put on a fantastic display of moves and abilities. I love how the one-up of Loudred's Soundproof was, in turn, one-upped by Jiggly's Cute Charm. So all in all, while I'm not always too fond of their decisions to go with fillers, this one gave me my money's worth.

Heracross
12th August 2005, 10:32 PM
Well, this was a good episode, though it was dissappointing that there was no mention of the old Purin, let alone an appearance. Anyway, here's what I thought:

-They need more filler characters like this guy. He actually had personality, and was a great guy trying so hard to catch Purin for his daughter. It made me go "aww" when we saw his family there at the end.
-Does anyone have a fly swatter? Cuz there appears to be some annoying musical notes floating around. ><
-CG flamethrower sucked too. :/
-Kojirou-tachi didn't really do anything in this ep, which wasn't really a bad thing. Soonansu popping up with the sleeping gear was hilarious though. XD
-I liked the use of the late Kanto music in this episode, namely the stuff playing when Purin first shows up and during the Purin vs Pikachu battle. Good stuff.
-Masato and Takeshi both got decent roles in this one, which was quite a welcome change from the norm.
-No mention of the old Purin whatsoever = wtf.

JazzJazz
12th August 2005, 10:35 PM
-No mention of the old Purin whatsoever = wtf.

That's so lame and again shows that the writers seem to neglect the history of the show... the "old" jigglypuff has had so many encounters with the characters, failing to mention it is just plain criminal!

CyberCubed
12th August 2005, 10:47 PM
^ That's probably the biggest fear about the Battle Frontier saga. They're in a familiar region that they've been through before, yet we may not see any mentions toward the old characters/pokemon/towns/adventures from the 1st season.

Heracross
12th August 2005, 10:55 PM
Yep, it's things like that that cause me to fear this whole arc will just be one massive wad of wasted potential. :s

ghost master
12th August 2005, 11:03 PM
I think Brock and Mudkip are on a luck streak. In kingdom of the Onix, Mudkip was out the entire episode and Brock got his own cage. In this episode brock had a decent role and Mudkip was in it for a while and it was with Foretress. I found Sing to be all right with a CG effect but, looking at the next episode they have gone overboard and Flamethrower didnt look all that good to begin with.

Jash Thor
13th August 2005, 2:55 AM
I do have to say that I was impressed by this episode, in a filler sense that is. I do have to start by saying that had this Jigglypuff been THE Jigglypuff, it would have made a huge difference. Especially had they thrown in a little resentment of fatuation with Loudred because it doesn't fall asleep, this episode would have been money, even if the Loudred isn't THE Loudred from Hoenn (but he is still one of my all time favorite Pokemon). Otherwise it was good. I also have to give major props to the writers for the whole sound bouncing off the walls idea, it was something more intriguing then the redundant "You Tackle, I Tackle" formula I felt was slowly monopolizing these episodes. Also, I'm glad that the writers are giving Pokemon moves outside of what you would normally expect them to have. It's almost as if they're makig up for wasting potential on the likes of Grovyle. Even if the CG Flamethrower wasn't great, it was pleasing to see that paired with Rollout instead of an expected Pound/Tackle combo or whatever. Had Mudkip been given a few extra scenes of screentime (maybe even fire off just ONE attack at Jigglypuff, even if that attack get's deflected by Rollout of whatever, it would still be satisfactory beyond years), I would have fainted with delight. The ending did what it could to keep a happy feeling, but I wouldn't have minded if the Jigglypuff never returned and the girl confessed to her father that she doesn't care what Pokemon she got as long as it was from him. It would have had the same touchy feely effect and not have felt to overboard (not that this one did, but that Jigglypuff did just come out of NOWHERE). All in all, an entertaining filler that is slowly funneling into what could become the best series yet (outside of the original Kanto episodes that is).

V Faction
13th August 2005, 3:00 AM
-No mention of the old Purin whatsoever = wtf.

From Murg at Bulbagarden:
One of the first things Meowth said when Team Rocket saw this Purin in action: "This one doesn't draw on people's faces after putting them to sleep. I've been looking for one like that." (rough translation)

Heracross
13th August 2005, 3:13 AM
Well then I stand corrected. That does give me some hope that the writers can remember things from the past, though it would still be nice to actually see the old Purin occasionally.

MidnightScott
13th August 2005, 3:46 AM
That episode was boring...but the next episode looks good.

I wish the old Jigglypuff would of appeared, I'm surprised we haven't seen it since Ash is back in Kanto. I was amazed to see it use Flamethrower or w/e it was it used and Rollout.
But this episode was just a boring filler. The next episode looks awesome though.

-Scott;229;

zero-hunter x7
13th August 2005, 4:04 AM
Fairly good ep IMO, the father was a great character, the scene where jigglypuff snubbed the food brock made was priceless. The wobbuffet scene was funny as well. Not horrible but it isn't the best.

Haunter Hunter Sohrab
13th August 2005, 4:55 AM
Umm..Why did May use her Pokedex on Loudred? Havnt they already seen the guy already like 3 times?

V Faction
13th August 2005, 5:42 AM
Umm..Why did May use her Pokedex on Loudred? Havnt they already seen the guy already like 3 times?
Welcome to the Pokemon Anime!! ^_^

Geodude
13th August 2005, 8:01 PM
Umm..Why did May use her Pokedex on Loudred? Havnt they already seen the guy already like 3 times?
It's a new Pokedex, maybe it has new info on it.

-I like how Pikachu was the one chosen to battle Jigglypuff on its own, we don't get to see enough of that IMO. Pikachu was one of the best ones to last long enough in the room with it until it decided to use Sing... I dunno, I just like the idea of it battling without Ash behind it.

Lovely May
13th August 2005, 10:04 PM
I like this episode. It shows how different pokemon are. Old Jiggly was cute and very friendly, good for hugs :p and this Jigglypuff was .... evil XD Very strong, agressive and not so cute. I like old Jiggly better (oh, what did happen with it?).
Hmm....

Alfonso
13th August 2005, 10:07 PM
It's a new Pokedex, maybe it has new info on it.

-I like how Pikachu was the one chosen to battle Jigglypuff on its own, we don't get to see enough of that IMO. Pikachu was one of the best ones to last long enough in the room with it until it decided to use Sing... I dunno, I just like the idea of it battling without Ash behind it.

Yeah that's exactly what we need. More Pikachu battling time. ^_^

...

...

Pikachu battling is still Pikachu battling, regardless of who's giving the orders. He's still boring and repetitive, and should be BANNED from future battles.

Fizban
13th August 2005, 10:44 PM
It sounded like Shihomi Mizowaki was providing the voice for this Jigglypuff. Awesome.

The cg Flamethrower was okay, but it was a bit silly doing that for Sing. I'm a bit relieved they haven't gotten to the point where they have cg Chibi-Giovanni fantasies.

Geodude
14th August 2005, 3:44 AM
The CG musical notes did have a point to them. It was to show the sound bouncing off the walls in the soundproof room.

Heracross
14th August 2005, 3:53 AM
But we already saw the other attacks bounce off the walls and we could hear sing echoing. Were the sing effects really necessary? >_> If they thought children still wouldn't get it, a little spoken explanation would have sufficed.

Juputoru
14th August 2005, 10:10 PM
-A filler character I actually cared about? GASP! Really, it was sweet the way that guy quit/took a long vacaction from his job just to catch 'puff for his kid.
-Brock DID something? And Max did too? DOUBLE GASP! We haven't seen Brock's "depressed" act for a while now, a Max had a good idea(although the father suddenly changing his mind for some reason didn't make much sense...then agian, I didn't understand much of what he was saying)
-Is it just me, or does the father look a LOT like a thinner version of Birch?
-We see another trait used. Yay...
-The father showed TR pictures of his family, huh? Hmm, I thought he was showing them pictures of his daughter at first(I blame that on Hughes from FMA :P), and then I thought he gave them his business cards...guess I was closer the first time.
-It's almost cute the way businessperson-father-Birch-Hughes-man-who-can't-catch-a-Jigglypuff apologizes(and thanks people) so much...kind of like Pagaya from One Piece(wow, that father reminds me of a lot of other anime characters...maybe that's why he grabbed my interest.)
-I find it veeeeeery interesting that Jigglypuff managed to spew out Treble Clef signs along with all those eight notes when singing...why doesn't it spit out half rests, repeat signs, and bar lines, too?...As if anyone else cares about that... >_> (/nitpickyness) Actually, I didn't like the notes, period. They failed at any "show them bouncing off the metal floor/walls" purpose they had(unless I was the only one who DIDN'T see that happening at *all*...), and they look tacky.
-Where'd they get those metal plates, how'd they get them set up so fast, and how'd they remove them so fast?
-Wobbuffet popping up with sleeping gear=awesome.
-If future filelr turns out like this(sans annoying CGI music notes), I will be happy.

Kazaana
15th August 2005, 5:38 AM
I finally got a chance to watch the episode today.

I thought that it was going to be another stupid filler, but it wasn't so. I found this one to actually be interesting. Having Sing bounce off the walls to put Jiggly to sleep was a pretty good idea, IMO.

The part where TR start their motto and then the guy hands them his business card was great. XD Then they get blasted off and are still saying the motto while doing it. XD It was also good that they didn't get a chance to try to steal Pikachu/Jiggly this episode. Any episode where Pika doesn't use Thunderbolt on TR is good in my book.

And I completely agree with you, Alfonso. Pikachu is getting quite boring and repetitive now. I'm getting sick of seeing it battle 50% of the time, while his other pokemon share the remaining 50%. =/

Geodude
16th August 2005, 12:40 PM
-The father showed TR pictures of his family, huh? Hmm, I thought he was showing them pictures of his daughter at first(I blame that on Hughes from FMA :P), and then I thought he gave them his business cards...guess I was closer the first time.
Nope, he gave them the same thing he first gave Ash & co, his business card.

Juputoru
16th August 2005, 3:52 PM
Nope, he gave them the same thing he first gave Ash & co, his business card.
Oh...curse you, Scamfly! Your mentioning of the father calming TR down by "showing them pictures of his family" made me second-guess my idea of what he was showing TR! :P

Am I the only one who's wondering if THE Jigglypuff is following Ash & co. around anymore? I mean, it's been AGES since we've seen it...and the "it's not following them" anymore explainaiton sounds better than "the writers forgot about it". Heck, as far as I know, it was never explained WHY that Jigglypuff was following them around. So it wants someone to hear its song without falling asleep. Does it HAVE to follow Ash-tachi around to accomplish that?

Geodude
23rd August 2005, 7:31 AM
I finally sent in the guide for this ep to Serebii. It should be up some time tomorrow.

Ethereal
23rd August 2005, 7:45 AM
I saw this ep on Saturday. Meh. Not too interesting, really. Had its really funny moments, though. Alls I wanna know is why they feel so many attacks need to be CGI now? -_-

Geodude
23rd August 2005, 1:07 PM
Didn't expect the guide to be up this early, but it is.

Geki
13th May 2006, 4:13 PM
I remember watching this episode in Japanese last year, as well as the battle between Ash and Noland. I like the storyline of the episode, and Jigglypuff is one of my favorite Pokemon in the anime. Loudred!! I think the last time we saw one was on Dewford Island!! RICE BALLS AGAIN!!!!!!

9/10

CyberCubed
13th May 2006, 4:37 PM
I'm glad this episode fell into Season 8 rather than the next, could you imagine Jigglypuff's song without Rachael Lilis? I can't imagine what Jiggly would have sounded like with a different voice singing...

Were those CG-i musical notes really visible? Whenever we saw Jiggly sing int he past, we never did see those musical notes float about? Reminds me of Smash Bros, with Jiggly hovering in the air like that.

There were some funny parts with Team Rocket saying their motto politely when Mitch thought they were Ash's friends. And the narrator falls asleep at the end, we haven't had the narrator take part of an episode in a long time.

Was there really any difference between this Jiggly and the one following Ash and co.? 4kids seemed to treat it as if it were the same one, Ash and co. even recognized it. You could just say that it lost its marker and it's storyline finally ended with this family catching it.

WaterDragon trainer
13th May 2006, 4:38 PM
This was a pretty good episode. It was kinda cool to see Jigglypuff's Cute Charm ability. I thought it was funny when Jigglypuff rejected Brock's pokemon food. The ending, IMO, was very good. Glad Mitch's daughter got her Jigglypuff eventually.

The Big Al
13th May 2006, 4:40 PM
Jigglypuff sent Team Rocket skyward during their motto. Why can't the twerps send them from whence they came while they waste time with the motto.

Yes, the musical notes were in the Japanese version. And come to think of it, since PUSA used some archives of Pokemon, I bet they have the Jigglypuff song on tape. Since it's the same thing over and over, I don't think we need to worry about it.

Hamstar
13th May 2006, 4:43 PM
This ep was really cute (cuz Jigglypuff was in it......I love Jigglypuff ^^)

PokemonTrainerLisa must be happy.....Ash said "Lisa" LOL XD (she's a really big Ash fan for those of you who don't know....but you prolly do XD)

Man....I wish MY name was used in Pokémon again...it was only used ONCE in that Wailord ep...."Stephanie"...yah....dat's my name...

Korobooshi Kojiro
13th May 2006, 4:48 PM
Man, this must of been the Smash Brothers Jigglypuff!

I have to say, these fillers are alot more entertaining then the pictures let on. This episode was good.

Atari
13th May 2006, 4:55 PM
:p Okay, this was a kinda-sorta good ep. for this morning.

Well, the dub sounded like the old VA's, so that actually kept my attention. Or, wait, were they the old VA's?!

Were those CG-i musical notes really visible? Whenever we saw Jiggly sing int he past, we never did see those musical notes float about? Reminds me of Smash Bros, with Jiggly hovering in the air like that.
Yeah, that was kinda the akward part. It really wasn't that good to add in to the anime (anything that involves computer graphics and drawings together isn't gonna look that good).

There were some funny parts with Team Rocket saying their motto politely when Mitch thought they were Ash's friends. And the narrator falls asleep at the end, we haven't had the narrator take part of an episode in a long time.
That was one of the funny parts. A++ For them! :p

Okay, as I watched the episode, I thought "Well, it's just gonna be another Jigglypuff ep. I guess it was... 8.07898231/10

Geodude
13th May 2006, 4:58 PM
*sigh* The new VAs have NOT had an aired episode with the main series yet. That won't happen until season 9 starts airing in September, after the inevitable summer break. Now can we please quit mentioning them when they have nothing whatsoever to do with the next few episodes?

Kanadian Kyuubi
13th May 2006, 4:59 PM
Yeah, that was kinda the akward part. It really wasn't that good to add in to the anime (anything that involves computer graphics and drawings together isn't gonna look that good).

Erm, .hack//ROOTS?

OMINAE
13th May 2006, 5:05 PM
This episode was great XD, i was crackin up everytime jigglypuff did its little diabolical laugh. Rachael Lillis does jigglypuff? She's so awesome :p

Mirai Mirai
13th May 2006, 5:12 PM
Greatest.Jigglypuff.Ever

I'll probably go into depth later, or something.

PDL
13th May 2006, 5:13 PM
I want a jigglypuff :(

although that one would be too tough for me :(

they should create a filler with Roselia in it.

Shining_Espeon
13th May 2006, 5:41 PM
This filler was great!

I love any Jigglypuff, because it's one of the cutest Pokemon, but this one was the best frikkin Jigglypuff ever! Cute and it can kick some butt. I love the "bring it on" hand motion it gave Pikachu when it got trapped in the soundproof house.

The ending was so cute. I'm glad Lisa got her Jigglypuff =)

asia_catdog_blue
13th May 2006, 6:41 PM
The chase between Mitch and Jigglypuff is kind of like Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry if you think about it.

Pika Hikari KT
13th May 2006, 6:51 PM
This is making me want to play SSBM again(and what a coincidence with this airing the same week as E3)~ Jiggly was so awesome with her kawaii little voice...Rachael Lillis makes her sound cute, but EVIL~! I love it.:D

Also got a bit of Tom and Jerry nostalgia watching Jiggly and Mitch go at it(only less violent).XD No doubt, Jigglypuff was the star of the episode. 9/10

Medea
13th May 2006, 7:25 PM
All I can say is that...

-That Jigglypuff was oh too cool
-I'm going to kill Coconut Fred (REPEATEDLY)
-Meh of a filler

Deathborn_606
13th May 2006, 7:39 PM
Well since Jigglypuff is a favourite of mine that means that this episode will be loved by me. Finally we see a special move from a Jigglypuff, ABOUT TIME.
And I liked the Jigglypuff rollouting Team Rocket while they we're doing their motto.

Team Rocket Admin
14th May 2006, 12:16 AM
Okay, I didn't see the episode, and am too lazy to read the whole thread. So, did they mention the regular Jigglypuff at all in the dub?

RandomCharizard
14th May 2006, 1:21 AM
Okay, I didn't see the episode, and am too lazy to read the whole thread. So, did they mention the regular Jigglypuff at all in the dub?
Go read a guide.
I've seen this episode in Japanese, it was awesome. 8/10 For the flamethrower Jigglypuff, I loved the 3D Music notes, and thats it.

Akane
14th May 2006, 1:26 AM
This was a pretty good episode. Wow that Jiggypuff wasn't like the other Jiggypuff from season earlier. This one was more powerful and stubborn. I loved the music notes. They were pretty. XD And when Mitch had to chase it, it was impossible. And even Pikachu couldn't beat it. But Jiggypuff end up with Mitch which was good because he could give it to his daughter. ^^

Kamex
14th May 2006, 2:24 AM
And the narrator falls asleep at the end, we haven't had the narrator take part of an episode in a long time.
Yeah, it actually reminded me of the old narrator doing almost the exact
same thing. Once, in the end of a Jigglypuff-related episode in Kanto IIRC, the previous narrator gave his end-narration with a large yawn. XD

Was there really any difference between this Jiggly and the one following Ash and co.? 4kids seemed to treat it as if it were the same one, Ash and co. even recognized it. You could just say that it lost its marker and it's storyline finally ended with this family catching it.
Nah, it couldn't be. They would have given it more attention as being the old one with the marker. Besides, it's personality seemed pretty different. It wasn't even trying to realize its dream of getting someone to hear it sing all the way through.

Anyway, nice episode. Filler, but it was cool. I generally enjoy episodes involving families.

Mitch was actually just going to let the Jigglypuff go? Who cares if it likes roaming around in the forest, any Pokemon you catch would! It'll get used to being with you after you catch it. Anyway, I'm glad it came back. Six months of trying to catch Jigglypuff and he actually wanted to settle with giving his little girl an ugly Loudred? O_o (I don't really think it's ugly... but you get my point; she wanted a cute Jigglypuff, not that loud... Loudred :))

7/10.

asia_catdog_blue
14th May 2006, 3:06 AM
The announcer fall asleep... isn't that breaking the fourth wall?

Kamex
14th May 2006, 3:28 AM
The announcer fall asleep... isn't that breaking the fourth wall?
Well, the whole idea of having a narrator for a story is sort of breaking the fourth wall, if y'know what I mean. So I suppose it depends on whether you think everything a narrator does outside of narrating is breaking the fourth wall, or not... I guess. O_o

Almost confused myself there. ^^;

S.Suikun
14th May 2006, 3:38 AM
Nah, breaking the fourth wall would be an actual character making a reference to such a thing as the writing, animation, or script. The narrarator was referring to something that was actually in the episode. If the narrarator said something along the lines of "Who writes this crap?", that might qualify.

munchlaxboy
14th May 2006, 1:05 PM
This was a very good epiosde. Jigglypuff had good attacks and was VERY powerful. And Jigglypuff Flamethrower, really actually looked like fire in real life. Brock also made a good funny face expresson in the episode. For a filler, I give it a 8/10.

HoennMaster
15th May 2006, 5:37 AM
I never thought a Jigglypuff episode would ever get interesting, or be good, guess I was wrong.

Andromache
16th May 2006, 5:39 PM
I think I agree with Kamex on this one. Felt like wasted effort to me to have everyone help Mitch and then him not follow through. Yes, I know he apologized, but I for one would still be annoyed. Then to have Jigglypuff follow them seemed contrived. I suppose it's nothing new, and coupled with the fact I don't really care for Jigglypuff, it combines to make this not a very enjoyable episode for me. Ah well. It's a shame the Battle Frontier starts off so slowly, but I guess it makes up for it later.

ReallyOcean
16th May 2006, 11:00 PM
After rewatching it a couple times, I agree that it is a good filler. I just think the conversation between the father and his daughter at the end is classic "Pokemon dubbed-corny".

Geodude
18th May 2006, 12:48 AM
And even Pikachu couldn't beat it.
It wasn't trying to. The plan was clearly explained.

Pokemon4Ever
18th May 2006, 5:51 AM
The episode was quite enjoyable for a filler, but it wasn't really one of my favorites.

wobbanut
19th May 2006, 9:52 PM
Okay, I'm finally all caught up... in time for another new episode. :p

This was a cute episode. I can't rate it about a 7 because it's TOO cute, but regardless it's pretty good. It was great to see a jigglypuff again, generic or not, and I know my jigglypuff-loving best friend will adore this episode. Too bad this one didn't inflate when angry, like I love our regular Jigglypuff doing, but at least this one had flamethrower. Whoa. It was pretty funny too. I liked Mitch's backstory on his attempts to catch Jigglypuff, and saying that eventually he just got used to sleeping on the ground. LOL The scene where jigglypuff snubs Brock's food, and Brock's horrified reaction, were pretty hilarious. Her putting herself to sleep was funny too, as was loudred falling for her. I also liked Team Rocket getting blasted off mid-motto (that has to be a first), Wobbuffet with his sleepwear :D , and the fact that for once the twerps don't even touch Team Rocket.

Overall, 7/10. I need to go brush my teeth now to get off the sugary sweetness.

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1st June 2006, 5:45 PM
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2nd June 2006, 12:16 AM
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alyssa
26th June 2006, 10:31 PM
i seen the episode it was cute. i really like it and also jigglypuff it is really cute when it gets mad.

alyssa
26th June 2006, 10:32 PM
;136; i seen the episode it was very cute

Ashy Boy
7th July 2006, 8:47 AM
That filler episode was a bit mediocre probably because of TR's interferance.

Jigglypaul
18th October 2006, 8:36 PM
Just watched this episode again, anyone else think this Jiggly is shiny? It has green eyes like the shiny in the games.
Can't remember what the other Jiggly looked like now, I'll have to search for an old episode to check.

Ash's Pika Pal
26th October 2006, 1:46 AM
Aww...I really liked this episode,that Jigglypuff had to be one of the cutest things I have ever seen. It was so sweet when Jigglypuff came home to Mitch and his family.

Pokemonger49777
5th November 2006, 4:45 PM
who gives a jigglypuff flamethrower? Honestly (besides me)?

Battra
5th December 2006, 4:54 PM
Very good episode. I like Max's plan to catch Jigglypuff, make me wonder what ever happened to to that Jigglypuff that was following Ash's group around for awhile.

Pacman
5th December 2006, 5:11 PM
A OK episode. I didn't like that Jigglypuff.

Igottapoo
19th January 2009, 11:41 AM
This was the best episode about Jigglypuff imo. I like how Jigglypuff decided to go and make his little girl happy. I felt so bad for her.

(s.i.e)
28th January 2009, 4:19 PM
this was a good episode in my opinion but i noticed that the story base of this episode is often used, sometimes there is something stolen and at other episodes somebody gets ill and now we have another request to help catching a pokemon episode, i noticed this alot lately.

Dooplissotto
20th February 2009, 2:30 PM
Very nice episode for Jigglypuff. I always like seeing them in the anime, whether it be the marker pen one or a wild one. Team Rocket ended up blasting off while still performing their motto, and the little girl ended up getting the Jigglypuff after all. A happy ending.

SoLaR-ScEpTiLe
10th June 2009, 2:41 PM
Nah, the episode was OK, Jigglypuff is not my favorite Pokemon but it had a nice spotlight

Surfer_Dude
26th October 2009, 11:36 PM
That Jigglypuff is EVIL! Did you see her eyes?!
Anyways, ash and co. had a good idea to use the room to reflect sing. I never thought it would've worked though...

The 4th KIRA
19th November 2009, 8:51 AM
Geez, more Filler. The final episodes of Advanced Battle are full of them.

I was hoping the original Jigglypuff would appear. But we got another Jigglypuff instead.

1/10

Ash-kid
18th December 2009, 10:19 AM
Jigglypuff was very strong, wow..

Even Pikachu wasn't able to beat it.

And i loved to see a Loudred

8/10