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Serebii
24th September 2005, 5:11 PM
Thats right, they're finally there

Episode 426: Battle Arena! Fighting Confrontation!

Would like Ron or Murg to check my translation though

CyberCubed
24th September 2005, 5:13 PM
Only 1 part? Doesn't it usually have (Part 1) next to it if it's a 2 parter?

Took them long enough, but if it's only 1 ep we may not get any backstory on that Brain.

Zabi
24th September 2005, 5:13 PM
YAY, they are finally their, the fillers were horrible, so yay!

Serebii
24th September 2005, 5:15 PM
There was no (First Part) by it, but they didnt have it on it for a few of the titles such as the Groudon & Kyogre one back a year ago and other titles so its subject to change

shinyaltaria
24th September 2005, 5:15 PM
Only 1 part? Doesn't it usually have (Part 1) next to it if it's a 2 parter?

Took them long enough, but if it's only 1 ep we may not get any backstory on that Brain.
Maybe the battle episode will have a different title.

MaskedManAbsolkid
24th September 2005, 5:15 PM
Looks good, but I'd be sad if it's one episode only. Still, we can ignore some of them fillers.

Zabi
24th September 2005, 5:23 PM
Thats proably why their is a Fighting Dojo episode, it leads up to Greta place...

Serebii
24th September 2005, 5:26 PM
Yeah but there are 3 fillers between them

Zabi
24th September 2005, 6:02 PM
Maybe, they have to do with Fighting Dojo's?

Joe
24th September 2005, 6:04 PM
Yeah, like that's possible. 3 fillers donated to a filler location? Doubt it. It'll probably just be a quick:
'Hi'
'Let's battle'
'Ok'
...
'Yes, I won!'
*Ash leaves with symbol*

Zabi
24th September 2005, 6:07 PM
That would suck...They better make it worth watching...

Haunter Hunter Sohrab
24th September 2005, 6:14 PM
They could make it like the Wattson episode. But then he comes back later on for a rematch.

Zabi
24th September 2005, 6:16 PM
Maybe she will loose to her, and then come back! That ould be cool...

CyberCubed
24th September 2005, 6:18 PM
The real question is, will this Frontier ignore the special battle rules of it's game counterpart like the Battle Factory did?

If this one is just a normal battle, then it's safe to say that ALL the Battle Frontiers will ignore the special battle conditions.

However if this one decides to follow the rules as the one in Emerald, then maybe the writers just didn't have Noland use rental Pokemon because they'd think that was boring compared to an Articuno Vs. Charizard matchup.

MagicBox
24th September 2005, 6:19 PM
Episode 426: Battle Arena! Fighting Confrontation!Battle Arena, eh? So I guess that means we're fighting Greta, right? That's cool. I can't wait to see how the writers handle this one. Whether it's a good way or not, it should be interesting.

Zabi
24th September 2005, 6:22 PM
I hope they make it more interseting then a Charizard facing an Articuno for a whole episode...

Gravy
24th September 2005, 6:56 PM
The real question is, will this Frontier ignore the special battle rules of it's game counterpart like the Battle Factory did?
At the moment, I'm assuming that they're all going to have some sort of specialist battle styles between them, though the chances they'll be played out in the exact same fashion as the game is teeter-tottering between 50/50.
I mean, the factory DID have random pokémon rules in place after all, though tweaked somewhat. They just never really took it any further than an explanation though *shrug*
This time around, I guess they could impliment the '3 turns to KO opponent' thing, but convert it into some sort of time limit in each battle, having a similar set-up to how Contest Battles work. Not original by any means, but then again, we've never had Ash deal with time limits iirc. Might put him under some pressure or something, I dunno~

For the record, it would be neat if the title is actually hinting towards physical fighting techniques being used, as opposed to the beams and projectile attacks. Hand-to-hand combat makes for decent battles, and it would be a nice to have THAT as the special rule instead of time limits and what-not~
But I'm just speculating here XP;

Zabi
24th September 2005, 6:57 PM
I wonder if Ash will have to choose another Pokemon to face, I hope she doesn't have like a Zapdos or anything...

S.Suikun
24th September 2005, 6:58 PM
What the hell was so horrible about the Charizard vs. Arti match? I mean, besides the extremely crappy animation?

Having never played Emerald, I'm not fully aware of the rules for each Frontier Brain, but even the regular battles still remain the best part of the entire show. Still, I'd like some backstory in a set-up episode on...whoever runs the Battle Arena. Noland's was pretty interesting.

Zabi
24th September 2005, 7:01 PM
Now, I hope they don't have the same Pokemon as the game, she should use Fighting Pokemon, I am hoping to see a Machamp or Hitmonchan...

CyberCubed
24th September 2005, 7:11 PM
I'm not. Machamp and Hitmonchan would have just recently been in episodes.

Zabi
24th September 2005, 7:11 PM
*Feels Dumstuck* Oh yeah, what am I on today...Anyway, atleast some fighting Pokemon, maybe even Rukario?

MagicBox
24th September 2005, 7:16 PM
*Feels Dumstuck* Oh yeah, what am I on today...Anyway, atleast some fighting Pokemon, maybe even Rukario?I'm 99.9% sure that we won't be seeing Rukario in this episode.

I think it's safe to say that Greta will use the same Pokemon she has in Emerald.

Zabi
24th September 2005, 7:17 PM
Good, I don't want to see all brains with a Legend...

CyberCubed
24th September 2005, 7:18 PM
Greta has Heracross, Umbreon, and Shedinja in Emerald.

That's a pretty good lineup IMO, it should be exciting if they have her use those Pokes.

MagicBox
24th September 2005, 7:23 PM
There's also a chance that she'll have Gengar or Breloom. Anyway, I'll be pleased. We don't see Heracross, Shedinja, or Breloom nearly enough. The only thing that could truly ruin the Frontier is if every Frontier brain battles with a legendary like the Noland battle.

Zabi
24th September 2005, 7:24 PM
Yay, I would like to see her use Shedinja and Umbreon...

Squirtle_007
24th September 2005, 7:51 PM
ˇAt last!, another shade in the opening will be revealed, I hope Greta to be a great opponent and had a great battle with Satoshi, she´s my favorite Frontier Brain (just for the looks because I haven´t even in the Battle Frontier in Emerald)

V Faction
24th September 2005, 8:09 PM
Let's see what they decide to do with Greta. She's got some handy-dandy Pokemon in her line-up. And the Arena sports an odd style of fighting.

crawdauntpro
24th September 2005, 8:13 PM
Let's see what they decide to do with Greta. She's got some handy-dandy Pokemon in her line-up. And the Arena sports an odd style of fighting.

Speaking as someone who doesn't own Emerald and probably never will, to be honest, what style of battling are you referring to? If I might ask?

Torkoal Stu
24th September 2005, 8:16 PM
There better be a Shedinja we've only seen that poor thing once even then it was all like "Use Shadow Ball" *uses it* and that was all it did. *sigh* Shedinja defenetly needs more time so I'm hoping for one of those ghostie bugs to appear. As for Umbreon meh and Heracross even more meh. I'm more interested in Shedinja I mean its so different it would make an interesting battle oppopent.

As for the battle set up i'm hoping for similer game style or it would be just like ordinary gyms, and when they came to the BF I thought it was to get away from the gym battle style but if they remove the special rules for each one they become gyms ;_;

MagicBox
24th September 2005, 8:18 PM
Speaking as someone who doesn't own Emerald and probably never will, to be honest, what style of battling are you referring to? If I might ask?http://www.serebii.net/emerald/arena.shtml

There you go.

Geki
24th September 2005, 8:19 PM
It's awesome that the crew is finally at the Battle Arena, the battle with Greta should be good. So I guess that it will be a fighting like battle, maybe Ash will use his Heracross during the fight. And, do you think it's possible that the upcoming episode in Japan will be a cliffhanger for the Greta battle?

ghost master
24th September 2005, 8:21 PM
Speaking as someone who doesn't own Emerald and probably never will, to be honest, what style of battling are you referring to? If I might ask? In battle Arena in Emerald you would have 3 turns to knock out the opponent. If you didnt you would be judged on how well you battled. Things like form, startegy and all that Jazz. We expect it to be different since the battle Factory's rules were that you got 3 rental pokemon selections to choose from and after each battle you could select a rental pokemon to switch with.

crawdauntpro
24th September 2005, 8:21 PM
http://www.serebii.net/emerald/arena.shtml

There you go.

Oh, it actually sounds quite interesting, yeah, you were right! Rock on Battle Arena!!

JazzJazz
25th September 2005, 12:01 AM
It's be cool to see shedinja, if only to make the battle a lot trickier for Ash.

I'm not holding my breath for heracross to be called upon, simply because I've been disappointed too many times before.

Sharpshooter
25th September 2005, 1:18 AM
No two parts? Shame. Oh well at least we'll get Umbreon back.

Let's hope also that if Shedinja does appear it wont do about 6 million solarbeams like it did back in "A Togepi Mirage".

MasterJedi
25th September 2005, 1:27 AM
I'd like a nice 3-on-3 battle and I'd rather have Ash use his own Pokemon rather than rental ones. It really would be kind of a waste that he brought Phanpy if he doesn't get to use it in any official battles.

Momoko Lover
25th September 2005, 1:34 AM
I think this will be a very intriguing battle. Greta sounds like a challenging opponent. I wonder what Battle area will come next?

Ralts Master
25th September 2005, 1:41 AM
The real question is, will this Frontier ignore the special battle rules of it's game counterpart like the Battle Factory did?
I think you answered your own question...

JazzJazz
25th September 2005, 2:26 AM
Oh well at least we'll get Umbreon back.

We don't know for sure that this will happen... so don't get your hopes up for any particular pokemon just yet.

Wind Waker
25th September 2005, 3:39 AM
yes, shedinja was very under used and even then all it did was solar beam, but I am very happy that they're at the next battle facility, i hope to see some underused pokémon and perhaps some comic relief.
they might go onto a cliffhanger at the end of this episode but i can understand why it might be one part, it also might be good to have one part think about it because then they would have to make this a filler episode leading up to the battle,
then again, that leaves room for more fillers....

Gravy
25th September 2005, 4:07 AM
they might go onto a cliffhanger at the end of this episode... but i can understand why it might be one part, it also might be good to have one part think about it because then they would have to make this a filler episode leading up to the battle,
I'd prefer it if this episode was just a 'filler', as it would give us a chance to actually get know the Frontier Brain's personallity, as well as any sort of interesting history they may have and special skills that they tend to use in battle. If you ask me, thats a hell of a lot better than meeting the character at the start of the episode and then suddenly going head to head with them in a fight.
Besides, they've been giving us at least 2 episodes per Gym Leader since mid Johto, why would they suddenly stop now?

CyberCubed
25th September 2005, 5:13 AM
Besides, they've been giving us at least 2 episodes per Gym Leader since mid Johto, why would they suddenly stop now?

Maybe because the writers are at a loss at giving Greta a decent personality or backstory?

ChaosMage
25th September 2005, 10:53 AM
If Umbreon and Shedinja don't appear, and something OU does, I'll give up on this whole saga.

Mawile_Eyes
25th September 2005, 11:34 AM
I agree with you Chaosmage, but sometimes writer want to make something different from game to seem newer.

Umbreon is ok, but if Ash know how to defeat Shedinja, the battle with it won't be interesting

XyronTheFalcon
25th September 2005, 1:40 PM
I dont think the battle will take place in this episode.Perhaps in the next,but not this.

I will prefer a type of story where The legend of the battle Arena is explained or some crap like that!

crawdauntpro
25th September 2005, 2:41 PM
I dont think the battle will take place in this episode.Perhaps in the next,but not this.

I will prefer a type of story where The legend of the battle Arena is explained or some crap like that!

Perhaps the anime could change the rules of battling to a 1-1, then 2-2 kind of thing or something that differentiates it from the games.

ChaosMage
25th September 2005, 2:42 PM
I'd like for Swellow or Phanpy to defeat Shedinja, since they have the attacks that are most effective against Shedinja.

crawdauntpro
25th September 2005, 2:47 PM
I would like the following line-ups: -
Grovyle VS Heracross
Phanpy VS Umbreon
Swellow VS Shedinja

MaskedManAbsolkid
25th September 2005, 3:03 PM
Serebii.net doesn't seem to work for me that much anymore, can someone tell me if the Battle Arena is the one where you have 3 turns, then you're ranked?

BTW, all I hope is that Greta has her Emerald team.

ChaosMage
25th September 2005, 3:07 PM
Serebii.net doesn't seem to work for me that much anymore, can someone tell me if the Battle Arena is the one where you have 3 turns, then you're ranked?

BTW, all I hope is that Greta has her Emerald team.

Yeah, that's the one.

Eddieursa
25th September 2005, 4:16 PM
"Fighting Confrontation!". Not sure, but do you think it means to a battle between Fighting Type's Pokemon?. If is, Ash will have it hard. The only "Fighting" he has is Heracross. And if Primeape hasn't returned.... What do you think?.

Pokeballs
25th September 2005, 10:01 PM
"Fighting Confrontation!". Not sure, but do you think it means to a battle between Fighting Type's Pokemon?. If is, Ash will have it hard. The only "Fighting" he has is Heracross. And if Primeape hasn't returned.... What do you think?.
ya, i was also hoping to see Heracross as well if there's fighting involved, probably shouldn't get my hopes up though...

CyberCubed
25th September 2005, 11:04 PM
"Fighting Confrontation!". Not sure, but do you think it means to a battle between Fighting Type's Pokemon?. If is, Ash will have it hard. The only "Fighting" he has is Heracross. And if Primeape hasn't returned.... What do you think?.

No. It would be ridiculous for some trainers who don't have a fighting Pokemon to go run out and capture one just so he/she could battle a Brain.

ChaosMage
26th September 2005, 12:14 AM
Has Heracross's Fighting type ever been addressed? I know Combusken has.

Alfonso
26th September 2005, 10:41 PM
I'm going to kick someone's a*s if they don't give Greta two episodes like Noland because of all the stupid lame a*s fillers they've been shoving down our throats.

She's the hottest legal Frontier Brain. Lucy doesn't exist in my eyes, and Rira... she ain't legal. ;D

Not that that bothers me when it comes to Pokemon girls, heh. XD

shinyaltaria
27th September 2005, 1:03 AM
Maybe it will something like Heracross vs Heracross,that would show in cool way Heracross's fighting type.

Missingno. Master
27th September 2005, 3:07 AM
Hmm, now this is just speculation, but......

Battle Arena > Greta > Greta's Shedinja > that evil guy's Shedinja >Gyarados's Flamethrower> Ash uses Fire type vs. Greta's Shedinja > Ash uses Cyndaquil > Cyndaquil evolves.

Now, the last time I did a speculation like this, I thought Lombre was going to evolve in the Relicanth episode (the one right before the Huntail/Gorebyss episode), so you'll forgive me if this is wrong.

Heracross
27th September 2005, 4:02 AM
As much as I would serioudly love to see Satoshi actually use Heracross, I doubt he'll even so much as think about using any of his old pokémon. I'm betting this will be one of those episodes that sounds like it has a lot of potential, but turns out to be dissappointing.

CyberCubed
27th September 2005, 4:04 AM
Well, there could be a formula where Ash uses one old Pokemon for each brain.

For Noland it was Charizard, Greta could be Heracross, the next one Bulbasaur/Squirtle/Snorlax/etc.

Since Ash's 6th slot has been purposely left open as I seriously doubt that Ash will be capturing any new Pokemon this saga, it could have been left open so Ash will use one old Poke per Brain.

Heracross
27th September 2005, 4:12 AM
I'd like to think that'll happen, but I'm still not getting my hopes up. :/

Jo-Jo
27th September 2005, 6:05 AM
^ I like that theory, but it does raise the question of what purpose Ash's current team is meant to serve. :p Not much purpose in him having them with them if they're never going to get to shine against the 'bosses' of the region.

CyberCubed
27th September 2005, 6:27 AM
Well I don't expect all of Ash's Brain matches to be one on one battles. I suspect the Noland one had that because they obviously didn't want to take any spotlight away from the Charizard Vs. Articuno fight.

I expect most of the other Brains to have a standard 3 on 3 match like any league or Gym battle. Thus, Ash could use two from his current lineup (such as Grovyle and Swellow for example), and one of his old Pokes, (such as Heracross, Kingler, Glalie, etc at each Brain)

Blaziken master
5th October 2005, 10:46 PM
Well now we know it could be a one parter.So it might be a small introduction,Team Rocket plot{please no}then battle.Imagine....
Greta:Ash This my assistant Wilson.Ash Wilson.Wilson Ash.Now lets battle!

ChaosMage
5th October 2005, 11:35 PM
Fighting Confrontation? Sounds like he meets Greta, and loses to something. Probably a Machamp. But I hope Shedinja appears, he would be a great excuse for Ash to lose. But it'll be funny if Ash has Swellow and Phanpy still, but uses Pikachu against Shedinja just in case it works. The scary thing is, he'll probably just use agility to confuse it Raichu-style. Pikachu conquers all!

Doha Development Agenda
6th May 2006, 9:08 AM
wow this episode looks reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally cool
can i have it?

Judai Yuki
6th May 2006, 9:09 AM
Umm i'm not sure what Doha did is allowed.

ChaosMage
6th May 2006, 9:13 AM
wow this episode looks reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally cool
can i have it?
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