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Calcos the Destroyer
4th November 2005, 11:22 PM
By now you probably think I'm some lazy, hopeless "n00b" as you call them. FYI: No. Now, here is an example of how I'm NOT a n00b: A killer double-battle team.

Sableye
Quick Claw
EVs: 200 atk, 200 def, 100+ spd
(nature undecided)
Skill Swap
Taunt
Brick Break
Shadow Ball


Shedinja
Bright Powder
EVs: 250 atk, 200 sp. atk, 50+ spd
Hasty nature
Swords Dance
Shadow Ball
Baton Pass
(other stat-booster)


Metagross
Choice Band
EVs: 300 atk, 200 spd
(any attack/speed-boosting nature)
Earthquake
Meteor Mash
Sludge Bomb
*filler*


Milotic
Leftovers
EVs: 230 def, 230 sp. def, 40 in everything else
Modest nature
Mirror Coat
Surf
Hypnosis
Recover


Typhlosion
Charcoal
EVs: 150 atk, 150 sp. atk, 200 spd
(beneficial in some degree)
Focus Punch
Thunder Punch
Substitute
Flamethrower


Tyranitar
Leftovers
EVs: 150 def, 150 sp. def, 200 atk
Brave nature
Dragon Dance
Substitute
Focus Punch
Earthquake


This may have too many sweepers, but it'll still dominate the majority. (Sableye and Shedinja first) So there.>:p

klducks
4th November 2005, 11:32 PM
Hey newb, in your "200, 150, 150" and "200, 300" ev sets are missing 10 *well 8 if you count how many of em are useful*

Charcoal Typhlosion = lol

bright powder = newb
QC = more newb

btw your t tar gets owned by gar, gg

also Sheddy + T tar in a double battle

hello gimmick, how are you today?

*has a hint it's Envoy of Celebi for some reason*

Calcos the Destroyer
5th November 2005, 7:09 PM
So I left out about 10 EVs. Big whoop. And you have a point, Shedinja would die in a Sand-stream. But anyways...

1. A Sableye that has Skill-Swapped Wonder Guard makes it close to invincible, and by using Taunt, it would be.

2. Focus Punch kills T tar. Same with Brick Break.

3. Gar gets raped by Shadow Ball.

So while you're hopelessly attempting to take out Sableye, Sheddy Baton-Passes to something like Meta, and then you're toast.

Charcoal-Leftovers

Quick Claw-Lum(in case it IS poisened/etc.)

Bright Powder-Miscellaneous

I admit, the items were pretty newb of me, but you're probably just P.O'ed at them cause' you've had a bad expieriance involving the said items.You know, if you're so smart, why don't you actually post a reply, then?

leafgreen386
5th November 2005, 7:33 PM
A bad experience? I would laugh if I knew you weren't being serious.

Charcoal sucks because it only gives a 10% boost, which is next to worthless when you could use Leftovers.

Brightpowder is hax. Quick Claw is hax. Hax is not how you win in a competitive battle. Get out of Competitive RMT now if you think it is.

Wonder Guard can't be SSed, stupid. And if you were planning on doing that, you're killing yourself by using TTar on this team but not giving it Leftovers.

Klducks is saying that TTar can't touch Gar with either of its attacks. It's forced to switch out and give your foe a free turn.

Your EVs are seriously screwed up. You didn't use all of your EVs. You spread them pointlessly (it takes 4 EVs to equal a stat point, not 5, if that's what you were thinking). And, on top of all that, you can only have 252 EVs in a stat (techincally it's 255, but only 252 actually help you).

Golden Groudon
5th November 2005, 7:44 PM
*n00b.

Message too short

aipomkong
5th November 2005, 8:27 PM
you dug yourself into a bottomless hole when you said about skill swaping wonderguard, any non-nub knows you can't do that

so basically you only proved how nubish you really are

Calcos the Destroyer
6th November 2005, 12:16 AM
It can't? Hmmmm.....Oh well. I never tried it anyways. +, I don't even have a team like this, so it does'nt matter. You people really dig harsh criticism, don't you? I might as well go dissapear to somewhere..... And is'nt the purpose of this part of the forums RATING teams, and not yelling "!!!!SUXSUXSUXSUXSUX!!!!" at them? How simple-minded.

PUrEHearT
6th November 2005, 12:42 AM
i wonder why n00bs get so mad when people call them n00bs....

anyways get better items

~*Jirachi~Chan*~
6th November 2005, 12:52 AM
Maybe if you stop criticizing him! Personally i not that bad of a team! Are you okay Calcos?

klducks
6th November 2005, 1:08 AM
It can't? Hmmmm.....Oh well. I never tried it anyways. +, I don't even have a team like this, so it does'nt matter. You people really dig harsh criticism, don't you? I might as well go dissapear to somewhere..... And is'nt the purpose of this part of the forums RATING teams, and not yelling "!!!!SUXSUXSUXSUXSUX!!!!" at them? How simple-minded.
With an attitude like yours, I would critisize.

Normally, people with threads that have like

"hi, my name is Robert. This is my ingame team.

*insert 6 newbpokes here*
rate my team please"

I wouldn't critisize since they're innocent. The people who do critisize them need to get some chill pills.

Anyway, with your attitude, you're not innocent, so let the critisizm begin.

BTW, you havn't said anything about you not being Envoy of Celebi...


You know, if you're so smart, why don't you actually post a reply, then?
I dont get how that makes sense if I was the last and ONLY poster of the thread at that time? =\

Drayano
6th November 2005, 1:09 AM
Maybe if you stop criticizing him! Personally i not that bad of a team! Are you okay Calcos?

If we didn't criticize him/his team that totally ruins the point of a RMT. Unless you meant it in a different way in which case ignore this.

Anyway, I think Smogon (www.smogon.com) would help you quite a bit about your movesets.

Golden Groudon
6th November 2005, 1:52 AM
Maybe if you stop criticizing him! Personally i not that bad of a team! Are you okay Calcos?

*applause!* Great acting as a suck-up! *applause!*

PUrEHearT
6th November 2005, 2:30 AM
oh yay slaking master finally has slaking as his avatar!!!

seriously before you say ur not a n00b think about it

Carpetted!
6th November 2005, 3:39 AM
You can't SS Wonder Guard?
*Throws future moveset plans out the window*

It's not that bad a team...

SapphireL
6th November 2005, 3:59 AM
c'mon you guys, let's all take a deep breath, and calm down here. u_u DO NOT argue please. No one enjoys it.

ANYWAYS. I shall now rate.


By now you probably think I'm some lazy, hopeless "n00b" as you call them. FYI: No. Now, here is an example of how I'm NOT a n00b: A killer double-battle team.

Sableye
Quick Claw no. Leftovers
EVs: 200 atk, 200 def, 100+ spd
(nature undecided)
Toxic....
Knock Off/Snatch
Seismic Toss/Night Shade
Recover/Moon Light

Sab isn't really an attacker. Set damage move is the way to go.

Shedinja
Bright Powder
EVs: 250 atk, 200 sp. atk, 50+ spd
Hasty nature
Swords Dance
Silver Wind/Aerial Ace
Baton Pass
Substitute

Pass the Sub and Dance w/Speed Boost. :o

Metagross
Choice Band
EVs: 300 atk, 200 spd
(any attack/speed-boosting nature) Adamant
Earthquake
Meteor Mash
Shadow Ball/Rock Slide/Explosion
Agility

Sludge bomb is okay.... but the other choices are better imo

Milotic
Leftovers
EVs: 230 def, 230 sp. def, 40 in everything else
Bold nature
Ice Beam
Surf
Hypnosis
Recover

Gotta have Ice Beam

Typhlosion
Charcoal
EVs: 150 atk, 150 sp. atk, 200 spd
(beneficial in some degree) Mild/Hasty Nature
Focus Punch
Thunder Punch
Substitute
Flamethrower

Meh. I kinda like...
-Flamethrower
-Thunderpunch
-EQ
-Substitute

with a Petaya Berry

Tyranitar
Leftovers
EVs: 150 def, 150 sp. def, 200 atk
Adamant nature
Dragon Dance
Rock Slide
Taunt
Earthquake

Or Boah for Competitive:
Quiet Nature:
-Focus Punch
-Thunderbolt
-Substitute
-Crunch

gets rid of a lot


This may have too many sweepers, but it'll still dominate the majority. (Sableye and Shedinja first) So there.> :p
hmmm... the EVs confuse me. @_@

aipomkong
6th November 2005, 1:54 PM
please stop saying that is isn't a bad team, it is horrible

any fighting type with shadow ball/(hp ghost/rock slide) utterly rapes it

medicham/machamp/heracross/hitmonchan/MEDITITE/machop

Golden Groudon
6th November 2005, 9:21 PM
lol.:D

lol your team and your pants.

Calcos the Destroyer
6th November 2005, 9:33 PM
lol your team and your pants.
What do you mean by pants?

SapphireL
6th November 2005, 9:37 PM
HEY. STOP FIGHTING.

I realized that I thought your team had Ninjask. ^_^;; I ALWAYS get those 2 Pokemon mixed up.

Shedinja:
-Protect
-Shadow Ball
-Swords Dance
-Grudge/Silver Wind

I'm gonna haveta close this if you don't stop fighting.

aipomkong
6th November 2005, 10:14 PM
forthcoming punctuation rape

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anyway just look at any of my rmt threads and you'll see me do better

Golden Groudon
7th November 2005, 12:34 AM
lol tyranitar+sheddy

PokegodWielderAlex
7th November 2005, 12:42 AM
your not a newb

klducks
7th November 2005, 2:03 AM
This thread is full of gimmicks =D

*petitions this to be stickied for gimmick alert*

Deokishisu
7th November 2005, 3:27 AM
Look, alot of these posts are very insulting. What if a child came upon this thread? Stop fighting and posting vulgar things.

This team would've been better if you knew things like wonder guard and skill swap and EVs. If you fixed that, you're team may be good. BTW, Tyranitar and Shedinja? (Falls on floor and laughs self into coma)

Basics
7th November 2005, 3:55 AM
I have mixed feelings about this thread, but I am resigned to the simple fact that the value of the posts is not affected, positively or negatively, by the slant which the author chooses to employ. Such is simply rhetoric, and is irrelevent to the matter at hand, which is the content of his post. It does not matter if someone says “Wonder Guard can not be Skill Swapped, OK?” or “Wonder Guard can not be Skill Swapped, you ****ing n00b.” Both are presenting the same facts, and the latter only includes the insult as an aside. Of course, this is a double-edged sword. The original post clearly stated that the author was posting this team in an attempt to vindicate himself from accusitions of “n00bishness.” This was not a good idea, as the team itself is not very good at all. The sad truth is that one can only argue that he should not be called a n00b (which is short for newbie, by the way, but is essentially abridged to anyone who has not learned the game yet) if he is not a n00b. And you sir, are a n00b. No offense intended.

SapphireL
7th November 2005, 4:01 AM
Okay. We're done. ._.

Arguin' and no one's really on topic.

CLOSED.