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Guy
11th November 2005, 8:21 PM
;006; A couple of things.
1: why is Bellyzard good?
2: i am planning to use this BellyZard on NetBattle. Rate it plz:
Charizard@Leftovers **Bellyzard**
Flamethrower
Wing attack
Earthquake
Belly Drum
Oh, and if you're like WTF about Wing Attack, remember that it is as powerful as Aerial Ace and that it has 35PP (i am a PP freak)

Calcos the Destroyer
11th November 2005, 8:36 PM
If it lives long enough, this could utterly destroy the opposition! On a more "criticismic" note: WTF. Wing Attack>Sky Attack(XD)/Rock Slide
We need to see the EVs. And, I suggest Lefties.

Hey Micky!
11th November 2005, 8:39 PM
;006; A couple of things.
1: why is Bellyzard good?
2: i am planning to use this BellyZard on NetBattle. Rate it plz:
Charizard@Leftovers **Bellyzard**
Flamethrower
Wing attack
Earthquake
Belly Drum
Oh, and if you're like WTF about Wing Attack, remember that it is as powerful as Aerial Ace and that it has 35PP (i am a PP freak)
And guess what, Hidden Power Flying > Both AA and WA and on NetBattle you won't ever run out of PP on a Bellyzard.

As for your questions:

1. With proper team support, it will sweep your opponent completey. Provided you can stop stuff that "may" survive your attacks you're set.

2. You NEED a Salac Berry. There's 2 methods to getting it active, one is Sub 1st then Drum to get you to 25%, the other is take a hit on the way 1st time then Drum at a later stage. Bellyzard doesn't work too well without Salac Berry.

As for the set:

Charizard @ Salac Berry
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Atk / 130 (S)Def / 116 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Flamethrower / Rock Slide / Substitute
- Earthquake
- Belly Drum

With Flamethrower you need about 20-50 Special Attack EVs to make Thrower a 1KO agaisnt Skarm, so take them out of HP and Def if you choose to use it.

I have no personal experience with Bellyzard but I'm sure there's plenty of people with a few words to say about it.


If it lives long enough, this could utterly destroy the opposition! On a more "criticismic" note: WTF. Wing Attack>Sky Attack(XD)/Rock Slide
We need to see the EVs. And, I suggest Lefties.
Um, wtf Sky Attack? "I know what I'll do, I'll be below 50% HP and I'll... wait a turn before I attack while my opponent OHKOs me" >>; I hate to sound like I'm failing you but sorry, this is a giant helpful peice of advice: If you don't know what you're talking about don't rate.

leafgreen386
11th November 2005, 8:45 PM
Or just use Magneton to take care of Skarm and friends, that way you can actually do something with the set (use Sub), as I doubt your prediction is that great if you're posting a BellyZard set like that.

Obiwan Shinobi
11th November 2005, 8:47 PM
Doesn't Fire Blast OHKO Skarmory with a -Sp.Attack nature?

Slack King
11th November 2005, 9:29 PM
yeah it does

Hey Micky!
11th November 2005, 9:43 PM
Doesn't Fire Blast OHKO Skarmory with a -Sp.Attack nature?
Yes, btu it also misses and on Bellyzard its a 1 time deal. DDers can DD again, Sword Dancers can sword dance again but Charizard can only Belly Drum once (discounting crap like wish and rest) and you don't wanna miss w/ Fire Blast that turn when with a sacrifice of 20-50 SAtk EVs (which aint needed elsewhere desparately) will guarentie you an OHKO with Thrower :S

/2 cence

Kaiser
11th November 2005, 11:23 PM
charizard @salac berry
adamant: enough hp for make it divisible in 16 / 252 Spd / rest in atk
- belly drum
- substitute
- earhtquake
- hidden power (flying)

get a maggy so u wont have skarm problems

-MK ;376;

Hey Micky!
11th November 2005, 11:26 PM
charizard @salac berry
adamant: enough hp for make it divisible in 16 / 252 Spd / rest in atk
- belly drum
- substitute
- earhtquake
- hidden power (flying)

get a maggy so u wont have skarm problems

-MK ;376;
You're not using leftovers so you mean 4 >>;

Calcos the Destroyer
11th November 2005, 11:29 PM
And guess what, Hidden Power Flying > Both AA and WA and on NetBattle you won't ever run out of PP on a Bellyzard.

As for your questions:

1. With proper team support, it will sweep your opponent completey. Provided you can stop stuff that "may" survive your attacks you're set.

2. You NEED a Salac Berry. There's 2 methods to getting it active, one is Sub 1st then Drum to get you to 25%, the other is take a hit on the way 1st time then Drum at a later stage. Bellyzard doesn't work too well without Salac Berry.

As for the set:

Charizard @ Salac Berry
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Atk / 130 (S)Def / 116 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Flamethrower / Rock Slide / Substitute
- Earthquake
- Belly Drum

With Flamethrower you need about 20-50 Special Attack EVs to make Thrower a 1KO agaisnt Skarm, so take them out of HP and Def if you choose to use it.

I have no personal experience with Bellyzard but I'm sure there's plenty of people with a few words to say about it.


Um, wtf Sky Attack? "I know what I'll do, I'll be below 50% HP and I'll... wait a turn before I attack while my opponent OHKOs me" >>; I hate to sound like I'm failing you but sorry, this is a giant helpful peice of advice: If you don't know what you're talking about don't rate.
I forgot to mention that part....heh. oops. .(IMO) S Attack should be like P boost.

Kaiser
11th November 2005, 11:32 PM
iirc,when u have hp divisible in 16,u can use sub + bd to get salac activated,or no? >_<

-MK ;376;

Hey Micky!
11th November 2005, 11:33 PM
iirc,when u have hp divisible in 16,u can use sub + bd to get salac activated,or no? >_<

-MK ;376;
yes it can but you don't NEED it to be divisible by 16, only by 4. Making it divisible by 16 is an unnecesery hassle

Kaiser
11th November 2005, 11:35 PM
is the same ._.

-MK ;376;

Pax Deorum
11th November 2005, 11:58 PM
a number divisable by 16 is divisable by 4, but not the other way around

Hey Micky!
12th November 2005, 12:39 AM
a number divisable by 16 is divisable by 4, but not the other way around
Maths for the win! :D

Mikau
12th November 2005, 1:58 AM
I agree with everyone else here. In fact now I want a BellyZard.

DemonScythe
12th November 2005, 8:40 AM
When do the pinch berries activate, at 25% or less?

aipomkong
12th November 2005, 11:02 AM
yes...............

Guy
12th November 2005, 12:23 PM
And guess what, Hidden Power Flying > Both AA and WA and on NetBattle you won't ever run out of PP on a Bellyzard.

As for your questions:

1. With proper team support, it will sweep your opponent completey. Provided you can stop stuff that "may" survive your attacks you're set.

2. You NEED a Salac Berry. There's 2 methods to getting it active, one is Sub 1st then Drum to get you to 25%, the other is take a hit on the way 1st time then Drum at a later stage. Bellyzard doesn't work too well without Salac Berry.

As for the set:

Charizard @ Salac Berry
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Atk / 130 (S)Def / 116 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Flamethrower/ Rock Slide / Substitute
- Earthquake
- Belly Drum

With Flamethrower you need about 20-50 Special Attack EVs to make Thrower a 1KO agaisnt Skarm, so take them out of HP and Def if you choose to use it.

I have no personal experience with Bellyzard but I'm sure there's plenty of people with a few words to say about it.


Um, wtf Sky Attack? "I know what I'll do, I'll be below 50% HP and I'll... wait a turn before I attack while my opponent OHKOs me" >>; I hate to sound like I'm failing you but sorry, this is a giant helpful peice of advice: If you don't know what you're talking about don't rate.
Thanx. I'll be adding that to my team for sure. Having Flamethrower, BTW.
;006;

aquajet16
13th May 2008, 10:30 AM
If you are planning to use that team i suggest not to make it a Bellyzard since you have no Rest or Roost but continue of you have a Wish support. You should just replace Belly Drum with Swords Dance...

Well dpends on you...