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metafreak
13th November 2005, 11:17 PM
Starmie@Leftovers
Trait:Natural Cure
EVs:252 SAtk,252 Spd,6Def
Timid(+Spd,-Atk)
-Surf
-Rapid Spin
-Thunderbolt
-Recover

Heracross(M)@Salac Berry
Trait:Guts
Evs:252Atk,126 Spd,126 Sdef,4 Def
Adamant (+Atk,-Satk)
-Swords Dance
-Brick Break
-Rock Slide
-Megahorn

Gardevoir(M)@Leftovers
Trait:Trace
EVs:252 Satk,126 Spd,126 Def
Modest(+SAtk,-Atk)
-Calm Mind
-Psychic
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Punch

Snorlax(M)@Leftovers
Trait:Thick Fat
EVs:252 Atk,252 SDef,6 Def
Adamant(+Atk,-SAtk)
-Substitute
-Focus Punch
-Shadow Ball
-Body Slam

Skarmory(F)@Leftovers
Trait:Keen Eye
EVs:126 Atk,126 Sef,252 Hp, 6Spd
Impish(+Def,-SAtk)
-Drill Peck
-Spikes
-Roar
-Rest

Dragonite(M)@Leftovers
Trait:Pressure
EVs:126 aTK,126Stk,252 Def
Rash(+Satk,-SDef)
-Dragon Claw
-Flamethrower
-Substitute
-Focus Punch

PLZ Rate.

aipomkong
13th November 2005, 11:20 PM
stabless starmie?

Slack King
13th November 2005, 11:31 PM
go starmie! use raid spin!

metafreak
13th November 2005, 11:35 PM
i edited and i put surf in place of rapid spin. i put rapid spin instead of ice beam.

Slack King
14th November 2005, 12:44 AM
Starmie@Leftovers
Trait:Natural Cure
EVs:252 SAtk,252 Spd,6Def
Timid(+Spd,-Atk)
-Surf
-Rapid Spin
-Thunderbolt
-Recover

It's a good thing that you canned your other set. It was a bad Starmie set. This one is much better.

Heracross(M)@Salac Berry
Trait:Guts
Evs:252Atk,126 Spd,126 Sdef,4 Def
Adamant (+Atk,-Satk)
-Swords Dance
-Brick Break
-Rock Slide
-Megahorn

Salac and moves other than reversal is generally a bad idea. I'd go leftovers instead. With this, tyranitar beats this by just switching in, maybe even before.

Gardevoir(M)@Leftovers
Trait:Trace
EVs:252 Satk,126 Spd,126 Def
Modest(+SAtk,-Atk)
-Calm Mind
-Psychic
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Punch

Calm mind is a good idea with all attack moves, great strategy. Swampert may give this set problems, so hp grass is an option.

Snorlax(M)@Leftovers
Trait:Thick Fat
EVs:252 Atk,252 SDef,6 Def
Adamant(+Atk,-SAtk)
-Substitute
-Focus Punch
-Shadow Ball
-Body Slam

I'd go Careful over adamant, to take special hits.

Skarmory(F)@Leftovers
Trait:Keen Eye
EVs:126 Atk,126 Sef,252 Hp, 6Spd
Impish(+Def,-SAtk)
-Drill Peck
-Spikes
-Roar
-Rest

Magneton troubles, XP. use hp fly/ww.

Dragonite(M)@Leftovers
Trait:Pressure
EVs:126 aTK,126Stk,252 Def
Rash(+Satk,-SDef)
-Dragon Claw
-Flamethrower
-Substitute
-Focus Punch

This set is outclassed by boltbeam, I'd rather have the obviously larger amount of super effectives.

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Tazzler
14th November 2005, 12:55 AM
Crobat and cloyster are overused.
You don't need max speed for starmie, enough to outrun tauros IIRC.
IMO, IB on starmie for stab.

metafreak
14th November 2005, 1:06 AM
Ice beam doesnt give Starmie stab. I am going to replace Garde with Scept.
-Crunch
-Leaf Blade
-Thunderpunch
-Dragon Claw

What is a cleric? what does a team need? ijust want to make sure

SpaceFlare
14th November 2005, 2:50 AM
Cleric is something with heal bell/aromatherapy.

That Sceptile gets walled hard by sp. walls, especially lax and bliss.

Give Sceptile sub/seed/leaf blade/hp ice. I'm uncertain bout evs on sceptile though.

Tazzler
14th November 2005, 4:49 AM
Eh, I meant using it for salamence.

DemonScythe
14th November 2005, 9:00 AM
your Lax EVs are messed up, put like 500 HP on that *****h..

leafgreen386
14th November 2005, 11:10 PM
more like 501

aipomkong
15th November 2005, 5:51 PM
more like 504

chaos952
15th November 2005, 6:16 PM
More like 512 for Leftovers.

leafgreen386
15th November 2005, 9:29 PM
more like 504
Oh. Subbing lax. Yeah. 504. 512 is just a waste imo.