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Swampy
20th November 2005, 7:35 PM
Battle Dome and Battle Tower.

Espyjump@ Lum Berry
EV: (252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP)
Modest Nature

Sub
CM
Psy.
Morning Sun
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Venasaur@Lefties
EV: (252 Sp.defence, 252 HP, 6 Sp. Attack)
Quiet Nature

Sunny day/ sub
Sleep powder
synthesis
Giga drain
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Mr. Attack@Shell Bell/??? (Umbreon, yes it is bad but it was an idea.)
EV: (126 HP, 126 Att, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Defence)
Adamant Nature

Curse
Screech
Double-Edge
Double Team

Okay, the last one is going to get bashed, I can feel it in my bones. *shivers*
So, honest answers; if it sucks, tell me!
RMT please.

Jetx
20th November 2005, 8:28 PM
Battle Dome and Battle Tower.

Espyjump@ Shell bell
EV: (252 Sp. Attack, 126 Speed, 126 attack, 6 HP)
Hasty Nature

Body slam
tickle
Psychic
Morning Sun/
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Venasaur@Lefties
EV: (252 Sp.defence, 126 HP, 126 Sp. Attack)
Quiet Nature

Frenzy plant/ Magical leaf/ petal dance
Toxic
synthesis
Giga drain
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Mr. Attack (Change the Name!) @Shell Bell/??? (Umbreon, yes it is bad but it was an idea.)
EV: (126 HP, 252 Att, 126 Def, 6 Sp. Defence)
Adamant Nature

Confuse ray
Moonlight
Endure
Flail

Okay, the last one is going to get bashed, I can feel it in my bones. *shivers*
So, honest answers; if it sucks, tell me!
RMT please.
Your umbreon did suck but I hope I've improved it, I doubt I was much help but I hope I was some...

Hukuzo
20th November 2005, 8:33 PM
Umbreon@leftovers
Moonlight
Confuse Ray
Toxic
Faint Attack

Obiwan Shinobi
20th November 2005, 8:33 PM
stop rating teams

hyper beam and their elemntals suck.

TOY MACHINE
20th November 2005, 8:34 PM
Espyjump@ Lum Berry
EV: (252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP)
Modest Nature

Psychic
Calm Mind
Substitute
Baton Pass

thats espyjump

chaos952
20th November 2005, 8:37 PM
Battle Dome and Battle Tower.

Espyjump@ Petaya Berry
EV: (144 HP / 176 Spd / 72 SAtk / 118 SDef)
Calm Nature

Sub
CM
Psy.
Baton Pass

The problem is that you have nobody to pass to...
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Venasaur@Lum Berry
EV: (220 HP / 80 Atk / 96 Def / 114 SDef)
Adamant Nature

Synthesis
Sleep powder
Leech Seed
Sludge Bomb
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Mr. Attack@Leftovers/??? (Umbreon, yes it is bad but it was an idea.)
EV: (220 HP / 38 Def / 224 Spd / 28 SDef)
Bold Nature

Mean Look
Wish
Baton Pass
Toxic

Okay, the last one is going to get bashed, I can feel it in my bones. *shivers*
So, honest answers; if it sucks, tell me!
RMT please.

Never EVER use Double Team. This team won't get anywhere.

jetx, stop posting here.

Jetx
20th November 2005, 8:47 PM
jetx, stop posting here.
Um... Why? Some people find my advice useful, people at my school do. Are you just holding a grudge against me because I told RaZoR LeAf about your sig? Well I don't see why I should stop posting, I'm better than nothing, and stop saying that before I begin to hold a grudge against you, I post what I believe rather than copying it all off 'smogon.com' *Gives chaos an evil glare, gets out a bazooka and holds it to his head.* Just stop saying I'm a bad RMTer, because I keep making these off topic posts, I'm not breaking any rules...

Swampy
20th November 2005, 8:49 PM
Espyjump@ Lum Berry
EV: (252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP)
Modest Nature

Psychic
Calm Mind
Substitute
Baton Pass

thats espyjump
I had espyjump with morning sun becuase there was no BP target. About that, chaos952, that is why I did not have BP.

How about:
Gross@shell bell(lefties being used)
EV: (252= Attack, 126=Hp, 100=Defence, 32=Speed)
Nature: Adamant
agility
rock slide/ thinking maybe explosion or sludge Bomb
EQ
Meteor Mash

Instead of umbs?

aipomkong
20th November 2005, 8:50 PM
suggesting tickle and body slam on espeon gave everyone the right to tell you to stop posting

Swampy
20th November 2005, 8:55 PM
suggesting tickle and body slam on espeon gave everyone the right to tell you to stop posting
The more correct term is that he KILLED my espeon. No offence jetx but it is true.

chaos952
20th November 2005, 8:56 PM
SwampyGropudon:

Metagross @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 96 HP / 252 Atk / 72 Def / 90 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Agility
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Shadow Ball/Sludge Bomb/Rock Slide

jetx:


Um... Why? Some people find my advice useful, people at my school do.

This is the internet.


...I post what I believe rather than copying it all off 'smogon.com'...

Guess what? The movesets on www.smogon.com are standard.


Just stop saying I'm a bad RMTer, because I keep making these off topic posts, I'm not breaking any rules...

Going off-topic is equivalent to spam. Plus, that's not the reason why I say that you're a bad RMTer; your suggestions are crap.

Jetx
20th November 2005, 8:59 PM
The more correct term is that he KILLED my espeon. No offence jetx but it is true.
Yeah I agree, I killed your espeon, but I heard it has really high attack somewhere... But I don't see why that means I should stop posting altogether.

Carpetted!
20th November 2005, 9:02 PM
Yeah I agree, I killed your espeon, but I heard it has really high attack somewhere...
Where did you hear that? You should at least check first, for other people's sake.

Jetx
20th November 2005, 9:03 PM
Okay I'll revise it now.

Espeon @leftovers
Modest
Sub/ skill swap/ mimic/ swagger/ morning sun
CM/ skill swap/ mimic/ swagger/ morning sun
baton pass/ skill swap/ mimic/ swagger/ morning sun
psychic

Now I know why I sucked before (LOL and still does), because espeon has a crap moveset, oh and swampygroudon if you are going to replace any one with that metagross it should be the espeon... Oh and I admit that I AM crap at rating espeon, chaos how about we just try to get along? *Pulls bazooka away and summons a crap espeon to destroy it*

Obiwan Shinobi
20th November 2005, 9:05 PM
Espeon's Base Attack: 65
Sp. Attack: 130

HUGE difference.

Swampy
20th November 2005, 9:08 PM
Yeah I agree, I killed your espeon, but I heard it has really high attack somewhere... But I don't see why that means I should stop posting altogether.

Why don't you check the pokedex??? It clearly shows (With common sense)that you would like to have a Sp. sweeper, not physical, unless you plan to lose to a big fat curselax. For the sake of staying on topic, I changed Vena to Swampert, or should I say cursepert.

Swampert@lefties
Ev: (thinking)
Nature: Brave all the way!

Curse
Ice Beam
Earthquake
Rest

I am pretty sure that it could live through two turns after a few turns of curse.

chaos952
20th November 2005, 9:19 PM
Bold lowers Attack... Besides, Brave is better.

Jetx
20th November 2005, 9:20 PM
Some one told me that umbreon has high defence and espeon has high attack, I believed them and that's why I din't check the pokedex...

Swampy
20th November 2005, 9:34 PM
Okay I'll revise it now.

Espeon @leftovers
Modest
Sub/ skill swap/ mimic/ swagger/ morning sun
CM/ skill swap/ mimic/ swagger/ morning sun
baton pass/ skill swap/ mimic/ swagger/ morning sun
psychic

Now I know why I sucked before (LOL and still does), because espeon has a crap moveset, oh and swampygroudon if you are going to replace any one with that metagross it should be the espeon... Oh and I admit that I AM crap at rating espeon, chaos how about we just try to get along? *Pulls bazooka away and summons a crap espeon to destroy it*

You say my espeon is bad!!!111shift. *Pulls out bazooka* Well, I guess you would know now wouldn't you? j/k

Please do not give me this:Sub/ skill swap/ mimic/ swagger/ morning sun.

Make up your mind on move sets. One or two is fine, but four different choices!

Jetx
20th November 2005, 9:35 PM
You say my espeon is ****!!!111shift. *Pulls out bazooka* Well, I guess you would know now wouldn't you? j/k

Please do not give me this:Sub/ skill swap/ mimic/ swagger/ morning sun.

Make up your mind on move sets. One or two is fine, but four different choices!
yes four choices to be put in three moves!

Swampy
20th November 2005, 9:38 PM
Okay I'll revise it now.

Espeon @leftovers
Modest
Sub/ skill swap/ mimic/ swagger/ morning sun
CM/ skill swap/ mimic/ swagger/ morning sun
baton pass/ skill swap/ mimic/ swagger/ morning sun
psychic


Your really did not give me a good rate. All you did was put in the standard and add three different moves?

P.S. I do not like mimc on espeon.

Tazzler
21st November 2005, 12:01 AM
You say my espeon is bad!!!111shift. *Pulls out bazooka* Well, I guess you would know now wouldn't you? j/k

Please do not give me this:Sub/ skill swap/ mimic/ swagger/ morning sun.

Make up your mind on move sets. One or two is fine, but four different choices!
its differet options that you could use. dont listen to him though since he suggests flailing umbreon.

Swampy
21st November 2005, 11:45 PM
its differet options that you could use. dont listen to him though since he suggests flailing umbreon.
Has he really suggested that!!!???!!! Wow, there goes any idea of me thinking that you guys were being too harsh on him.

Air Dragon
23rd November 2005, 12:02 PM
Um... Why? Some people find my advice useful, people at my school do. Are you just holding a grudge against me because I told RaZoR LeAf about your sig? Well I don't see why I should stop posting, I'm better than nothing, and stop saying that before I begin to hold a grudge against you, I post what I believe rather than copying it all off 'smogon.com' *Gives chaos an evil glare, gets out a bazooka and holds it to his head.* Just stop saying I'm a bad RMTer, because I keep making these off topic posts, I'm not breaking any rules...

You tell 'em, jetx! Leave us alone to rate! If peope who start the threads like our ideas and think they're cool, why should you say otherwise?


Battle Dome and Battle Tower.

Espyjump@ Lum Berry
EV: (252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP)
Modest Nature

Swift
Iron Tail
Psychic
Morning Sun
----------------------------------------------
Venasaur@Lefties
EV: (252 Sp.defence, 252 HP, 6 Sp. Attack)
Quiet Nature

Sunny day
Solar Beam, please
Sludge Bomb/Body Slam
Giga drain
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Mr. Attack (No Offense, but...What kinda name is that!)@Shell Bell
(Umbreon, yes it is bad but it was an idea.)
EV: (126 HP, 126 Att, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Defence)
Adamant Nature

Shadow Ball
Toxic
Double-Edge
Moonlight

Changes in italics

Nothing against Umbreon, it's cool. Probably just needs work on its stats. All in all, it's good! I won't tell you to change pokemon, just the movesets.
Later!

≈*Virulent Tsunami*≈
24th November 2005, 12:57 AM
You tell 'em, jetx! Leave us alone to rate! If peope who start the threads like our ideas and think they're cool, why should you say otherwise?

The problem is, though, no one really does, thus defeating the point of your post here.


Nothing against Umbreon, it's cool. Probably just needs work on its stats. All in all, it's good! I won't tell you to change pokemon, just the movesets.
Later!

It's Stats are quiet well-placed really. Not every Pokémon has to be able to kill with a blunt ax, you know. Umbreon is meant to support and annoy(NEVER use it for that purpose only, though. Annoyance is an add-on to the Standard set).

Anyway, I would advise against Umbreon InGame, because it lacks the power to do any damage at all. There are better BPers who can actually do something, like Ninjask(decent Attack to complement that incredible Speed).


~*CB*~
The 8th Champion

TOY MACHINE
24th November 2005, 2:06 AM
u need a special attacker you have all this baton passs but to whom?

get one like starmie

thunderbolt
surf
ice beam
psychic/recover

Tazzler
24th November 2005, 2:19 AM
A good team for you would be espyjump, special attacker, and a physical pokemon that can attack and take hits like lax.

PUrEHearT
24th November 2005, 2:29 AM
well the in-game RMT forums are doomed with the increase of people like dark venusaur... probably gimick at that too...

anyways im tried today.... so i wont actually rate except for one advice.... dont listen to shiny mightyena

Air Dragon
25th November 2005, 9:38 AM
Originally posted by ~*Commander Blizzard*~
Anyway, I would advise against Umbreon InGame, because it lacks the power to do any damage at all. There are better BPers who can actually do something, like Ninjask(decent Attack to complement that incredible Speed).

Yeah, i sorta see what you mean. I'm no expert on sweepers and tanks and that sort, but the Ninjask is a cool idea. I'm deciding on raising a bred Yanma or raising a naturally evolved Ninjask too (as they hav the same ability). Umbreon may be kinda flimsy as a one shot finisher, and I guess it really is
meant to support and annoy. Just saying ech to his own means. you have my deep respect for your nice way of setting the facts out.
Later!
P.S. : I guess you may be right about your first quote, but hey, you can't deny I've got the right to post here too. Or that I should be ignored. and you didn't. My respect and highest kudos to you.

≈*Virulent Tsunami*≈
25th November 2005, 3:02 PM
Yeah, i sorta see what you mean. I'm no expert on sweepers and tanks and that sort, but the Ninjask is a cool idea. I'm deciding on raising a bred Yanma or raising a naturally evolved Ninjask too (as they hav the same ability). Umbreon may be kinda flimsy as a one shot finisher, and I guess it really is . Just saying ech to his own means. you have my deep respect for your nice way of setting the facts out.

I'd say Ninjask for that choice. For some reason, Nintendo ignored Yanma's double Physical STAB and great Physical movepool to give it a higher Special Attack. Its Speed may be good, but it's still a little weak in the Offensive department. Umbreon may have the power to stay around for a long time, but it's only useful on NB, really. InGame, it's pretty much whoever hits first.


P.S. : I guess you may be right about your first quote, but hey, you can't deny I've got the right to post here too. Or that I should be ignored. and you didn't. My respect and highest kudos to you.

True, just as I have the same right to post wherever I please. And my respect to you for being so accepting of constructive criticism. Most new raters here won't hear a word against their sets, even if they're about as effective as Choice Band Magikarp.


~*CB*~
The 8th Champion