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shadowking
20th November 2005, 9:41 PM
thank to whoever rate my team im new so feel welcome to comment even if it suck really bad.

Flygon (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hp Flying/Hp Bug
- Fire Blast
- Rock Slide

Starter for the noob

Espeon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 108 HP / 156 Def / 156 Spd / 90 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Baton Pass
- Sub

best Eevee

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 156 HP / 90 Def / 156 SAtk / 108 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
- Rest

most used Water

Skarmory (M) @ Leftover
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 Att
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtt)
- Spikes
- Roar
- Drick Peck
- Rest

standard but without ghost poke.

Electabuzz (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Static
EVs:129 HP / 129 Spd / 252 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- HP Grass
- Ice Punch
- Cross Chop
- Thunderbolt

standard or is it? better with espyjump calm mind

Snorlax (M) @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 172 HP / 116 Atk / 222 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam/ Double Edge
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Shadow Ball

sleep talk lax

change the ev and poke with a good reason as im new to this.

Calcos the Destroyer
21st November 2005, 1:03 AM
Hmm, not bad. I think HP Electric would have been better, though. For some reason I don't see Rest working for Skarm, everyone has a Skarm counter and I've never really seen flyers as defensive in general. Heck, My Gengar has a Skarm counter.

Broodstar
21st November 2005, 1:15 AM
sleep talk Mr.snor isn't so great, try this
Snorlax@lefties
um...
(forgot evs)
-Curse
-Body slam/return
-Shadow ball
-Rest/EQ/whatever

shadowking
21st November 2005, 1:16 AM
can you help me as i want the honest truth about this team but again it :D

shadowking
21st November 2005, 1:18 AM
i wanted to do that lax but i need a sleep talker for stautes other than flygon and pert( twave) i might try it thank

leafgreen386
21st November 2005, 1:25 AM
Hmm, not bad. I think HP Electric would have been better, though. For some reason I don't see Rest working for Skarm, everyone has a Skarm counter and I've never really seen flyers as defensive in general. Heck, My Gengar has a Skarm counter.
HP:Electric on WHAT? Not one poke on this team will benefit from HP:Electric.

Rest is standard on Skarm for a reason. It can stick around taking physical attacks for long enough that the two turns spent resting don't matter. With a Beller you can even wake up instantly. Btw, this team needs a Heal Beller. Bad. Three Resters...

Now I'll just say something for a few of these pokes.

On Skarm use 196 HP/212 Def/rest in Atk/SDef

Calm>Modest for Espyjump.

On Electabuzz, you'll need somone who's experienced with it to help you, but that is NOT a good EV spread for it.

On Lax, take 12 EVs out of HP and put them in Spd, that way you can outspeed para'ed base 130s. Use Body Slam. Leftovers>>>>Chesto berry

Btw, for future reference, you can use File -> Export to Text so you don't have to type it all out.

Calcos the Destroyer
21st November 2005, 1:30 AM
I suggested HP Electric because of Flygons' Ice weakness.

Deoxys & Jirachi
21st November 2005, 1:33 AM
nice team but i will change skarmory because he isnt needed much in the elite four

leafgreen386
21st November 2005, 1:34 AM
I suggested HP Electric because of Flygons' Ice weakness.
...

IT'S A CHOICE BANDER USING PHYSICAL MOVES! WHAT USE WILL A SPECIAL BASED ATTACK NOT KILLING SKARMORY EVER BE?


nice team but i will change skarmory because he isnt needed much in the elite four
Get out of CRMT. Now. There is no "elite four" in competitive battling. Got it? Stick to ingame rate.

shadowking
21st November 2005, 1:36 AM
so give pert curse over rest i did the three rest as i don't have a hell beller any suggested for a heel beller thank 386 for espyjump nature but i wanted a different EV set for buzz. calcos check your team i wrote you back.

aipomkong
21st November 2005, 5:24 PM
thank to whoever rate my team im new so feel welcome to comment even if it suck really bad.

Flygon (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hp Flying/Hp Bug
- Fire Blast
- Rock Slide

hp bug

Espeon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 108 HP / 156 Def / 156 Spd / 90 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Baton Pass
- Sub

Calm Nature, enough for 301 Speed and 320 HP, rest in SDef

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 156 HP / 90 Def / 156 SAtk / 108 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
- Rest

Curse over Rest, 240 hp / 16 atk / 130 def / 80 satk / rest in sdef
BRAVE nature

Skarmory (M) @ Leftover
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 Att
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtt)
- Spikes
- Roar
- Drick Peck
- Rest

196 hp / 212 def / rest in atk OR Sdef

Electabuzz (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Static
EVs:129 HP / 129 Spd / 252 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- HP Grass
- Ice Punch
- Cross Chop
- Thunderbolt

use jolteon or raikou

Snorlax (M) @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 172 HP / 116 Atk / 222 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam/ Double Edge
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Shadow Ball

@ leftovers
rest/curse/earthquake/return

all suggestions i made are standard and the most effective for your team and pokemon

Koopa
21st November 2005, 6:46 PM
flygon@lefties
enough hp for 320 / 252 spd / some def / rest in atk
naughty / adamant
. eq
. screech
. rock slide
. fire blast

****s teams

Golden Groudon
22nd November 2005, 2:08 AM
flygon@lefties
enough hp for 320 / 252 spd / some def / rest in atk
naughty / adamant
. eq
. screech
. rock slide
. fire blast

****s teams
sub should be in there IMO

Slack King
22nd November 2005, 2:27 AM
Screechgon only works on spike/dusclops teams.

Zora
22nd November 2005, 2:31 AM
I suggested HP Electric because of Flygons' Ice weakness.
Even then, HP fighting would be a better choice, and since when has Ice been week to thunder?

Koopa
22nd November 2005, 8:44 PM
it works withouth spike team too imo

leafgreen386
23rd November 2005, 1:14 AM
Well, the idea is if they switch they take a lot of damage coming in and if they stay in they take a lot of damage as well. But without Spikes they have nothing to lose if they switch, except maybe a little pain if they mispredict or don't have a bulky water.

envoy of celebi
23rd November 2005, 1:35 AM
thank to whoever rate my team im new so feel welcome to comment even if it suck really bad.

Flygon (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hp Flying/Hp Bug
- Fire Blast
- Rock Slide

Starter for the noob

Don't use HP Electric, Earthquake will do A LOT more to Suicune, Starmie, and the like. ****, it'll even do more to Articuno ._. Go with HP Flying right now.

Espeon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 108 HP / 156 Def / 156 Spd / 90 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Baton Pass
- Sub

best Eevee

Nah, Umbreon is, but whatever. Calm over Modest, Espeon's main priority isn't to attack. Let this outspeed Salamence (~302 speed) if it doesn't already.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 156 HP / 90 Def / 156 SAtk / 108 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
- Rest

most used Water

Suicune is. You'll want 267 Speed on Gyarados. Dragon Dance/Earthquake/HP Flying/Taunt.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftover
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 Att
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtt)
- Spikes
- Roar
- Drick Peck
- Rest

standard but without ghost poke.

That's ok, your team doesn't rely on Spikes to work. EVs for 320 hp, and 400 defense. Put 16 evs into speed, dump the rest in attack. Don't be paranoid about BP teams, Mr. Mime won't like repeated Drill Pecks anyway.

Electabuzz (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Static
EVs:129 HP / 129 Spd / 252 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- HP Grass
- Ice Punch
- Cross Chop
- Thunderbolt

standard or is it? better with espyjump calm mind

It's standard, yes. I would give it 302 speed, then put the rest in Attack.

Snorlax (M) @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 172 HP / 116 Atk / 222 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam/ Double Edge
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Shadow Ball

sleep talk lax

Curse over Sleep Talk. You'll need Defense evs as well.

change the ev and poke with a good reason as im new to this.

Needs a cleric, you have a Gengar weakness so use Heal Bell Celebi. Try not to mix UU with OU. 7/10.

Zora
23rd November 2005, 1:53 AM
Also drop Sleep Attack for curse. Sleep Attack is too random, and random attacks aren't very helpful to my knowledge.

aipomkong
23rd November 2005, 5:13 PM
clerics aren't needed at all

Koopa
23rd November 2005, 6:10 PM
cleric or status taker is needed in every team imo (milotic,heracross)

aipomkong
23rd November 2005, 6:13 PM
urm status taker and cleric are totally different

Koopa
23rd November 2005, 6:25 PM
yes but i said that you need at least one of them >_<

shadowking
23rd November 2005, 11:05 PM
then who to take out for hera or milotic?

WootyMcWoot
24th November 2005, 4:48 AM
then who to take out for hera or milotic?
You could take out Swampert for Milotic.

aipomkong
24th November 2005, 10:20 PM
note to people

Heracross isn't a status taker.

it doesn't like taking paralysis
it hates being poisoned, especially toxic or poisoned by sludge bomb on the switch
it doesn't exactly love being burned
and it sure as hell doesn't like being frozen
it doesn't even like sleep if it is sleep talk less

just because it has guts, it doesn't mean it can automatically take status.

the only way hera is a status taker is rock slide/megahorn/sleep talk/rest, where it can actually rest of the status

while milotic can actually use recover/rest and marvel scale helps it pull off these when statused

Kaiser
25th November 2005, 3:38 AM
milotic is the only usable " status taker " imo

-MK ;376;

aipomkong
25th November 2005, 5:47 PM
hey ho rest snorlax/slowbro/suicune etc.

Basics
26th November 2005, 4:01 AM
Heracross isn't a status taker.

it doesn't like taking paralysis
Slows me down a bit, and doubles my attack power? seems like a fair ****ing trade.
it hates being poisoned, especially toxic or poisoned by sludge bomb on the switch
What the ****? Poisoned Heracross is one of the most deadly Pokemon in the game. OK, so I'm taking 1/8 damage every turn, that's the only trade-off for double damage? nice.
it doesn't exactly love being burned
Except for it's the same thing as being Poisoned, except 1.5x Power.
and it sure as hell doesn't like being frozen
It's not like any status taker likes being frozen. But that's like saying Suicune can't take on Blaziken because CH Focus Punch will kill it. Freezes **** with everyone, lol.
it doesn't even like sleep if it is sleep talk less
Again, noone likes sleep; there's too few ways to use sleeping pokemon to your advantage; hence sleep clause.

So yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and call you on your ********. Heracross is an excellent status absorber.