View Full Version : which is better

21st November 2005, 11:45 PM
wich would in general be better, umbreon, dusclops or claydol? I would think umbreon because it has hich defences AND hp, unlike dusclops or claydol.

22nd November 2005, 12:45 AM
Is this for ingame or for competitive battling? Overall I would be torn between Umbreon and Dusclops. Dusclops is better if you need to block rapid spin, but a lot of people pack Donphan for Spinning so that's kinda iffy in competitive. Umbreon tanks better but it's useless ingame. If you need movesets go to Smogon's Pokedex (http://www.smogon.com/dex.php?page=list&q=pokemon) for movesets.

22nd November 2005, 4:55 PM
Claydol isn't really intended as a tank. It's somewhat of an intended counter in my opinion. Umbreon is an amazing tank, but it can't attack successfully anyhow. Passing Curse is the best use for it the way I see it. Dusclops is just meh.

22nd November 2005, 9:42 PM
dusclops, because it can W-o-w, seismic toss and confuse (it also has better defense stats and 2 imunities)

22nd November 2005, 10:25 PM
umbreon does nothing in-game