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Keanu Reeves
22nd November 2005, 7:48 PM
Yeah, I rarely see 2vs2 teams much. Everything seems 1vs1ish nowadays.

Plusle (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Plus
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Agility
- Endure
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Thunder

Minun (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Minus
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Endure
- Helping Hand/HP Ice
- Rain Dance
- Thunderbolt

You say lol, I say GG Aero/Sal starters.

Medicham (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Pure Power
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Fake Out
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Light Screen
- Rock Slide

Stantler (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Frustration
- Role Play
- Shadow Ball

Role Plays Medicham for double the physical attack

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Destiny Bond
- Ice Punch
- Skill Swap
- Thunderbolt

Slaking (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Truant
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Bulk Up
- Earthquake
- Return
- Shadow Ball

Old strat, but works well.

Koopa
22nd November 2005, 8:56 PM
never use plusle and minun as an strategy

Keanu Reeves
22nd November 2005, 9:22 PM
You'd be surprised. They aren't as bad as you'd think.

orangekows
22nd November 2005, 11:01 PM
minun used helping hand
aerodactyl used earthquake
plusle and minun both fainted

DemonScythe
23rd November 2005, 7:12 AM
Since poeople over***** 252/252 spreads unless its
a really good wall or something too slow and then like this
Aero used swagger
Sala's lum cured and attack was raised
Sala(who outspeeds you) used Earthquake
gg for the pluse and minun
Sala got a free setup gg for you

Lefties Gar is lol in doubles..

you over***** 2v2 strats, those should only be used
at the start because it is unlikely you will ever get to setup
again, and your EVs should be custimized not just using
cheap predictable spreads, and I do doubles so check me sometime..

Keanu Reeves
23rd November 2005, 3:32 PM
minun used helping hand
aerodactyl used earthquake
plusle and minun both fainted


Since poeople over***** 252/252 spreads unless its
a really good wall or something too slow and then like this
Aero used swagger
Sala's lum cured and attack was raised
Sala(who outspeeds you) used Earthquake
gg for the pluse and minun
Sala got a free setup gg for you

More like...

Plusle used Endure!
Minun used Endure!
Aero & Sal used Earthquake!
Plusle & Minun's Salac Berry activated

gg Aero/Sal. Next time look at the movesets before you guys post.

chaos952
23rd November 2005, 4:02 PM
More like the Berries activate after one of them attacks, so you'll get screwed by the second Earthquake.

Keanu Reeves
23rd November 2005, 4:33 PM
Salac makes Plusle/Minun faster than Aero, fyi, and endure endures both hits in 2vs2.

chaos952
23rd November 2005, 5:02 PM
Okay then... In comes Tyranitar, or two Special Sponges to ruin your fun.

Koopa
23rd November 2005, 6:05 PM
OU pokemon > minun and plusle

Slack King
23rd November 2005, 6:11 PM
lol two special sponges and tyranitar in 2v2

plusle and minun are great in 2v2 you guys are acting like you actually know about the 2v2 metagame

Koopa
23rd November 2005, 6:26 PM
yes i know

microgamer
28th November 2005, 2:33 AM
You might want to consider salac berries on Medicham and Stantler because many 2vs2 mainstays outrun them. Endure on Medicham works out too.

Keanu Reeves
28th November 2005, 3:49 AM
Okay then... In comes Tyranitar, or two Special Sponges to ruin your fun.

Quick question..


With ALL the Kingdras, Ludicolos, Salamences, Aerodactyls, AND Metagrosses out there...



WHO THE **** WOULD USE TYRANITAR ON A 2VS2 TEAM?!?!?!?!one!1!1!cos(0)11!1eleventyone11!!?1

Trust me, everything I have learned I have learned because I am the chosen one. I am Neo.

DemonScythe
28th November 2005, 6:08 AM
More like...

Plusle used Endure!
Minun used Endure!
Aero & Sal used Earthquake!
Plusle & Minun's Salac Berry activated

gg Aero/Sal. Next time look at the movesets before you guys post.
Don't be so situtation
Predicting that because its pratically standard
the Sala could just use DD and screw you
further in the ***
even if you can kill mence while Aero uses protect
the next turn as said before T-tar comes in and kills
you both at the cost of one.

WHO THE **** WOULD USE TYRANITAR ON A 2VS2 TEAM?!?!?!?!one!1!1!cos(0)11!1eleventyone11!!?1
more than 50% of players use it actually, and I do too
Sandstream screws up the weather combo strategy
and it has defences good enough to setup.

Trust me, everything I have learned I have learned because I am the chosen one. I am Neo.
._.

Keanu Reeves
28th November 2005, 7:15 AM
Don't be so situtation
Predicting that because its pratically standard
the Sala could just use DD and screw you
further in the ***
even if you can kill mence while Aero uses protect
the next turn as said before T-tar comes in and kills
you both at the cost of one.

more than 50% of players use it actually, and I do too
Sandstream screws up the weather combo strategy
and it has defences good enough to setup.

._.

1.) It's called prediction my friend. You should watch 1vs1 sometimes

2.)

Minimum Damage 350
Average Damage 381
Maximum Damage 412

That's from 317 SA Kingdra Hydro Pump versus 236 SD T-tar WITH Sandstorm active. Not to mention Kingdra outspeeds Tyranitar even without the boost from Rain AND If Hydropump doesn't kill T-tar, then Kingdra's Ally will deliver the finishing blow. Not to mention once T-tar is gone, so is you Sandstorm since there will be nothing to stop Kingdra/Ally from rain Dancing again. Questions?

3.) According to THIS (http://www.smogon.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4782), only less than 11.5% actually use T-tar in 2vs2. Yes, I am a Smogoner, or at least I visit there. It's kinda hard to miss that topic since its on the first page and its even harder to miss if you play 2vs2.

4.) There is no Spoon

Hey Micky!
28th November 2005, 12:51 PM
4.) There is no Spoon
No, there's always spoons >:O

Everyone have a glass of stfu, not in the mood to deal w/ pretending to give two craps about your arguements but apparently I'm meant to >>; Next person to have some 2v2 metagame flamewar gets their posts editted w/ a madeup revelation about their sexual preferences, stick to rates plx.

Keanu Reeves
28th November 2005, 2:47 PM
I can alter myself to be male or female within the matrix so do as you please.

A.K.A.: Everyone stay on topic

DemonScythe
30th November 2005, 7:56 AM
No, there's always spoons >:O

Everyone have a glass of stfu, not in the mood to deal w/ pretending to give two craps about your arguements but apparently I'm meant to >>; Next person to have some 2v2 metagame flamewar gets their posts editted w/ a madeup revelation about their sexual preferences, stick to rates plx.
._.
fine whatever, arguments with are usually endless..

I still stick by my standards, but trolling sppf I couldn't care less..