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SpaceFlare
27th November 2005, 9:16 AM
Salamence (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

Milotic (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 212 HP / 240 Def / 56 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Surf

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 172 HP / 148 Def / 132 SAtk / 56 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Leech Seed
- Psychic
- Recover

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 124 HP / 120 Def / 252 Spd / 12 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Light Screen
- Rest
- Thunderbolt

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 196 HP / 84 Atk / 212 Def / 16 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rest
- Spikes
- Whirlwind

Gengar (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 180 Spd / 78 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

~Phanpy~
27th November 2005, 10:19 AM
Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

You NEED dragon dance. +speed and attack, which will help it kill pokes fast. Flamethrower only for a special sweeper set.

Milotic (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 Def/ 110 HP/ 79 S.Atk/ 69 S.Def
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Surf

Good

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 S.Def/ 160 HP/ 98 S.Atk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Heal Bell
- Leech Seed
- Psychic
- Recover

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 124 HP / 120 Def / 252 Spd / 12 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunder Wave/HP: Grass
- Sleep Talk
- Rest
- Thunderbolt

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 196 HP / 84 Atk / 212 Def / 16 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Spikes
- Whirlwind

Gengar (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Spd/ 160 S.Atk/ 98 Atk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Punch
- Sludgebomb
- Thunderbolt

Good good

~Phanpy~ ;231;

aipomkong
27th November 2005, 12:59 PM
^^ stop sucking

1) choice band mence is one of the most powerful straight out attackers there are, flamthrower is for skarm

2) you retarded up milo's evs, 69 evs does nothing that 68 wouldn't do

3) heal bell celebi is outdated

4) thunder wave zapdos always sucked

5) drill peck + whirl wind is an illegal combination on skarm

6) you missed the point of mcicegar using sub

SpaceFlare
28th November 2005, 6:05 AM
Um, just get on with the rate plz.

Hey Micky!
28th November 2005, 12:56 PM
Celijump is 10x cooler than staller Onion, it's especially cool to BP to HP Ice/Rest-Talk/Bolt Zappy. Considering you've got 2 special based pokes as well as 2 more with special attacks (and who would both benefit from added special attacks) I think it'd slot into your team rather nicely.

wozfe
28th November 2005, 9:46 PM
If you are going to use ddmence then there's no need for 252 speed.
Go with enough speed EV's for 264 speed so you can outspeed those 130 base speeders with maxed out speed after a dragon dance.

aipomkong
28th November 2005, 9:49 PM
270 speed to outspeed adamant hera

SpaceFlare
1st December 2005, 8:52 AM
I'm not using DDmence. Do you think I could go HP Ice on Zapdos or should I go Grass?

So this is the team right now:

Salamence (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

Milotic (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 212 HP / 240 Def / 56 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Surf

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 56 Def / 148 Spd / 8 SAtk / 56 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Recover

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 124 HP / 120 Def / 252 Spd / 12 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Light Screen
- Rest
- Thunderbolt

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 196 HP / 84 Atk / 212 Def / 16 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rest
- Spikes
- Whirlwind

Gengar (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 180 Spd / 78 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Hey Micky!
1st December 2005, 12:00 PM
If you're gonna Celijump to Zappy then HP Ice, else stuff like Celebi just outstalls your *** (and after a CM or 2 Swampert aint got a chance of stopping you and will most likely get pressured out of Ice Beam). Go Sleep Talk > Light Screen if your BPing CMs to it btw.

SpaceFlare
2nd December 2005, 11:29 AM
ah ok. I was considering sleep talk so I had something to take sleep status.

Crolum
5th December 2005, 2:28 AM
solid team but take out flamethrower for fire blast. more power for your weak special attack plus 85% has enough accuracy to hit consistently

shadowking
5th December 2005, 2:41 AM
go with Fblast if u not worry bout accuracy. zap need Hp Grass as you need a pert counter other than milotic also can a Stalk zap work for this team and i know you have milotic but just an option if you feel you don't need LS as it imo only use for gar also i like Mirrior Coat to surpise people on lotic but the set is fine. good standard team

Hey Micky!
5th December 2005, 6:09 AM
go with Fblast if u not worry bout accuracy. zap need Hp Grass as you need a pert counter other than milotic also can a Stalk zap work for this team and i know you have milotic but just an option if you feel you don't need LS as it imo only use for gar also i like Mirrior Coat to surpise people on lotic but the set is fine. good standard team
Celebi counters Swampert just fine and HP Ice > Gras on any Zappy who recieves a Celijump. Zapdos with 1 or 2 CMs boositng its SDef can easily outstall any Swampert (Pressure > Ice Beam's PP) combined with Rest.

NightWolf
5th December 2005, 9:27 AM
Salamence (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

Milotic (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 212 HP / 240 Def / 56 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Surf

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 172 HP / 148 Def / 132 SAtk / 56 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Leech Seed
- Psychic
- Recover

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 124 HP / 120 Def / 252 Spd / 12 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Light Screen
- Rest
- Thunderbolt

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 196 HP / 84 Atk / 212 Def / 16 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rest
- Spikes
- Whirlwind

Gengar (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 180 Spd / 78 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt


9/10
Nice team

Hey Micky!
5th December 2005, 9:19 PM
9/10
Nice team
Wow, great rate. If people totally took your idea of quoting an entire team, not changing anything and stating a number out of 10 the world would be a much better place >>; You also quoted the wrong damn team >>