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Dark Society
7th December 2005, 12:56 AM
Heracross (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 16 Def / 152 Spd / 88 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Endure
- Megahorn
- Reversal
- Swords Dance

Rhydon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 176 Def / 80 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Megahorn
- Rock Blast

Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 20 HP / 252 SAtk / 236 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Wish

Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 136 Spd / 248 SAtk / 124 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Crunch
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunderbolt

Breloom (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 252 Atk / 116 Def / 100 Spd / 40 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Sludge Bomb
- Spore

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 80 Atk / 212 Def / 216 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Roar
- Spikes
- Steel Wing

so far I'm 7-1 with this team according to netbattle. I've had a few unrated battles (most that I won). I would like to change either Breloom's Hidden Power or take out Sludge Bomb for something.

aipomkong
7th December 2005, 8:18 AM
Heracross (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 16 Def / 152 Spd / 88 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Endure
- Megahorn
- Reversal
- Swords Dance

hi gengar, hi tyranitar
brick break/megahorn/rock slide/focus punch @ choice band

Rhydon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 176 Def / 80 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Megahorn
- Rock Blast

Curse > DE, Impish nature

Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 20 HP / 252 SAtk / 236 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Wish

Charm/Haze/Baton Pass/Substitute > HP Grass

Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 136 Spd / 248 SAtk / 124 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Crunch
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunderbolt

Sub > Crunch

Breloom (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 252 Atk / 116 Def / 100 Spd / 40 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power
- Sludge Bomb
- Spore

[B]HP Rock

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 80 Atk / 212 Def / 216 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Roar
- Spikes
- Steel Wing

Rest > steel wing
less sdef evs, needs 196 hp / 252 def / rest in sdef

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envoy of celebi
8th December 2005, 12:54 AM
Heracross (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 16 Def / 152 Spd / 88 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Endure
- Megahorn
- Reversal
- Swords Dance

I expect you aren't afraid of Tyranitar, you OHKO it...

You better not start with this, whether Tyranitar is uber or NU, it will be forced to switch way too many times by Mence.

Rhydon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 176 Def / 80 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Megahorn
- Rock Blast

HP Rock imo. Give it like 384 hp and throw the rest in defense. and yeah, curse over double-edge.

Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 20 HP / 252 SAtk / 236 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Wish

max defense with bold, drastically lower your special attack and give it to hp. substitute or baton pass goes over hp grass. EVs probably aren't standard, but they work fine with me.

Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 136 Spd / 248 SAtk / 124 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Crunch
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunderbolt

355 speed. if you aren't worried about gengar, then ~332. about 200 defense, 354 hp, some special evs. HP Grass over Ice, Sub over Crunch.

Breloom (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 252 Atk / 116 Def / 100 Spd / 40 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Sludge Bomb
- Spore
Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers

hp ghost, sub over sludge bomb.

Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 80 Atk / 212 Def / 216 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Roar
- Spikes
- Steel Wing

196 hp/196 def/16 speed/16 special defense/rest in attack, Rest over Steel Wing.

so far I'm 7-1 with this team according to netbattle. I've had a few unrated battles (most that I won). I would like to change either Breloom's Hidden Power or take out Sludge Bomb for something.

Raikou, Jolteon, and Zapdos all screw you up pretty bad; Dugtrio OHKOs four of your pokemon and leaves a dent on Vaporeon. Basically, you have a major Magneton+Dugtrio weakness.

Fluorescent Adolescent
8th December 2005, 4:30 PM
Erm sub on Breloom is a waste of a moveset IMO. He can do better things than having sub

For example a move instead of sub:
Leech seed
OR
Sky Uppercut
OR
Swords Dance
OR
And dare I say it.....snatch =O But it damn hard to predict with that IMO.
OR
Mach Punch

aipomkong
8th December 2005, 4:56 PM
breloom's best set is

snatch/hp rock/focus punch/spore btw

Fluorescent Adolescent
8th December 2005, 5:20 PM
breloom's best set is

snatch/hp rock/focus punch/spore btw

Snatch only if you're good at predicting though :/

Kaiser
8th December 2005, 9:25 PM
Spore,FP,HP rock,Sky uppercut / snatch.

i would go with SU because snorlax would **** this later

-MK ;376;

shadowking
8th December 2005, 10:48 PM
only scizor is a reliable in the rev department. go with omaster vap set. IMO you don't have a reliable starter other than raikou and even he isn't a good one as. on this team you'll be force to switch alot whoever start for you.

aipomkong
9th December 2005, 4:18 PM
breloom and rhydon are good starters

Fluorescent Adolescent
9th December 2005, 4:21 PM
breloom and rhydon are good starters

Rhydon dies easily to physical/special sweepers though that are likely to be the leads on another team. Things like Raikou/Jolteon with HP grass will own it, and choice banded earthquake is never nice for Rhydon to handle =/

As for Breloom the leads of the opposing team will most likely be faster and Breloom doesn't have good defences/Sp defence so...

aipomkong
9th December 2005, 4:28 PM
Cb Mence Is Beaten By Starter Rhydon