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Sgtwoodsy
9th December 2005, 1:40 AM
NOTE: I use this team on Pokemon NetBattle, so that explains why my Hidden Powers are very specific. Enjoy, and please, no flaming.

;257; Blaziken (F) @ Salac Berry ** Kicken' Chicken
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 200 Spd / 58 SAtk
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Endure
- Overheat
- Reversal
- Swords Dance

;149; Dragonite (F) @ Leftovers ** SirKnight
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 70 HP / 64 Atk / 176 Spd / 200 SAtk
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

;373; Salamence (F) @ Choice Band ** Mence the Fence
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

;330; Flygon (F) @ Choice Band ** Ebola
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 110 HP / 252 Atk / 148 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Quick Attack
- Rock Slide

;282; Gardevoir (F) @ Petaya Berry ** En Garde
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Punch
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt

;248; Tyranitar (F) @ Leftovers ** Boahsaur
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Spd / 190 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Crunch
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

S:C
9th December 2005, 2:01 AM
NOTE: I use this team on Pokemon NetBattle, so that explains why my Hidden Powers are very specific. Enjoy, and please, no flaming.

This would go to CRMT then.

;257; Blaziken (F) @ Salac Berry ** Kicken' Chicken
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 200 Spd / 58 SAtk
Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
- Endure
- Overheat
- Reversal
- Swords Dance

Fine, but I wonder about the Nature. Try Adamant or Jolly for more effect, since Overheat will be probably a one-use move.

;149; Dragonite (F) @ Leftovers ** SirKnight
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 70 HP / 64 Atk / 176 Spd / 200 SAtk
Rash Nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

I suppose it would actually do better with less Spd. and more Atk. since SubPunching is done slower. Dragonite subs at the end of the first turn and FPs the next turn. Even if the sub is broken it won't matter.

;373; Salamence (F) @ Liechi Berry ** Mence the Fence
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

Choice Band says hi.

;330; Flygon (F) @ Choice Band ** Ebola
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 110 HP / 252 Atk / 148 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Quick Attack
- Rock Slide

Nice nickname. As for the set, I suppose.

;006; Charizard (F) @ Salac Berry ** Winged Thing
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SAtk
Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
- Belly Drum
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Flying]

Why bother.

;248; Tyranitar (F) @ Leftovers ** Boahsaur
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Spd / 190 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Crunch
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

I can't argue against Boah.
Comments are in bold. I don't see why I'd flame this team to be honest.

SPN
9th December 2005, 2:40 AM
A water/ice type would mutilate your team...also lowering the Special Defense of four of your Pokemon is not good. Mainly since most of those ones need defense against special attacks.

S:C
9th December 2005, 2:44 AM
Boah would mutilate any Water- or Ice-type coming in. Still, that's true.

Sgtwoodsy
9th December 2005, 4:34 AM
Okay, I edited my original post. Tell me what you think of the new product.

~Sgtwoodsy~

S:C
9th December 2005, 4:53 AM
All I can say to that, besides "Refer to what I said about the Pokemon you still have," is that Gardy needs Leftovers. I still think that an Ice-type will obliterate Mence and Dragonite, and Flygon.

Air Dragon
9th December 2005, 12:31 PM
I've go to agree with SPN here... Water and Ice types will guarantee you defeat. Even Boahsaur is easily taken care of with a solid Fighting pokemon or to aid in resistance, a Grass type. Gardevoir will crumble in the face of a Dark type too. If you're gonna face the Elite, Gardevoir won't be too helpful in the first couple of rounds. In the frontier, against the Maven Spenser, more trouble will arise from his Lapras, the Dome Ace's Swampert, etc.
That's the downsides of the team. Now for the upsides:
Your team is very well trained to take on a lot of types. Sweet.
It's sorta unbalanced though. Lose the Choice Bands and switch Tyranitar's Leftovers with Gardevoir's Petaya Berry. also try using one dragon and fill the othe two slots with a Water or Ice type of your own and maybe a fast Fighting or Grass type type. That's all i can say for now. Later!

chaos952
9th December 2005, 1:17 PM
Shiny Mightyena, this is NetBattle, not in-game.

Huuuuuuge BoltBeam weakness... You might want to stick Snorlax/Regice/Blissey in there somewhere...

Also, EndRevving doesn't work well on Netbattle, as every team has either Tyranitar or some Quick Attacker to mess you up.

Tazzler
9th December 2005, 5:15 PM
NOTE: I use this team on Pokemon NetBattle, so that explains why my Hidden Powers are very specific. Enjoy, and please, no flaming.

;257; Blaziken (F) @ Salac Berry ** Kicken' Chicken
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 200 Spd / 58 SAtk
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Endure
- Overheat
- Reversal
- Swords Dance
Special ken is the in thing. Hp ice, sku uppercut, thunderpunch, fire blast.
;149; Dragonite (F) @ Leftovers ** SirKnight
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 70 HP / 64 Atk / 176 Spd / 200 SAtk
rash Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

;373; Salamence (F) @ Choice Band ** Mence the Fence
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
adamant Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- fire blast
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

;330; Flygon (F) @ Choice Band ** Ebola
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 110 HP / 252 Atk / 148 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- hp bug
- Earthquake
- Quick Attack
- Rock Slide

;282; Gardevoir (F) @ Petaya Berry ** En Garde
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Punch/willowisp/hypnosis
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt

;248; Tyranitar (F) @ Leftovers ** Boahsaur
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Spd / 190 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Crunch
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
Why are you using an endrevver with a tyranitar on your team?

aipomkong
9th December 2005, 5:28 PM
dragonite/salamence and flygon on one team is pointless, they are all huge targets for ice, and all do pretty much the same thing

lol @ reversal blaziken, then lol at using it with tyranitar.

quite possibly the biggest, swampert/suicune/starmie/jynx weak i have ever seen

SHUCKLE MAN
10th December 2005, 2:17 PM
NOTE: I use this team on Pokemon NetBattle, so that explains why my Hidden Powers are very specific. Enjoy, and please, no flaming.

;257; Blaziken (F) @ Salac Berry (Good)** Kicken' Chicken (It is not a good Idea to use a reversal Blaziken on a team with a Tyranitar.)
Trait: Blaze (Good)
EVs: 252 Atk / 200 Spd / 58 SAtk (I suggest max Special attack, max speed and the remaining EVs in defense)
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) (Good)
- Endure
- Overheat
- Reversal
- Swords Dance (Rock Slide may be better for those pesky flying types)

;149; Dragonite (F) @ Leftovers (Good)** SirKnight (This should not be on a team with Salamence and Flygon)
Trait: Inner Focus (good)
EVs: 70 HP / 64 Atk / 176 Spd / 200 SAtk (these are okay for both our movests)
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd) (Admant would be better)
- Focus Punch (Aerial Ace is more reliable and gets STAB.)
- Ice Beam (Dragon dance instead would allow you to take off your Speed EVs and put them somewhere else)
- Substitute (Dragonite would be too slow to use Substitue effectively without dragon dances so eathquake is better because it is alightly stronger than STABbed aerial aces and it can defeat Rock and Steel types (e.g. Aggron) more easily whilst with only Aerial ace you do not have much of a chance)
- Thunderbolt (good for Skarmory even if your Dragonite is Admant or something)

;373; Salamence (F) @ Choice Band(Choice banded Salamence is awesome but IMO the Dragon dancing one is better so try a Lum Berry instead) ** Mence the Fence (Again three dragons are bad on one team. Remove two and keep one or else you will have to somehow cope with multiple Articuno switch-ins)
Trait: Intimidate (Good)
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd (put the speed EVs on HP and the HP EVs onto defense)
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) (Admany is preferable)
- Brick Break (I recommend Dragon Dance if you decide to remove your Choice band.)
- Earthquake (Good)
- Hidden Power [Flying](Aerial Ace is better allowing you to hit double teamers and it allows you to give Salamence Hidden Power Rock as it is more accurate, does better in double battles, it is more unpredictable and Aerial ace will get STAB anyway)
- Rock Slide (As I said you may want to put HP Rock instead)

;330; Flygon (F) @ Choice Band(Chice Banded Salamence is not that good, for once the Dragon fang is useful...)** Ebola (Three dragons on a team is not good. I recomend keeping Salamence and ditchin Dragonite and Flygon)
Trait: Levitate (Good)
EVs: 110 HP / 252 Atk / 148 Spd (OK for both movesets)
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef) (OK for both movesets)
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Quick Attack (Sandstorm is better if you are not using a Choice Band)
- Rock Slide (Crunch is better IMO even if you lack Special Attack EVs and STAB)

;282; Gardevoir (F) @ Petaya Berry (Use a quick claw if you wish to use my tanking moveset)** En Garde (Gardevoir is a good choice for your team. I will give you a tank/annoyer Gardevoir but your own Gardevoir is already V.Good)
Trait: Synchronize (Good)
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind (Light Screen for stalling and pseudo switching)
- Ice Punch (reflect for stalling and Pseudo switching
- Psychic (Destiny bond. This may go first due to your Quick Claw. this may also trigger a switch to allow you to Toxic another opponent)
- Thunderbolt (Toxic. this is made easier by Light Sreen and Reflect and can be used after you use Destiny Bond)

;248; Tyranitar (F) @ Leftovers (Good)** Boahsaur (This tyranitar is an excellent counter dor Skarmbliss but is you want a more unpredictable Tyranitar use my suggestion)
Trait: Sand Stream (good)
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Spd / 190 SAtk (Good for both movesets)
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd) (Good for both movesets)
- Crunch
- Focus Punch (Rock Slide for Stab)
- Substitute (earthquake for power and good for double battles)
- Thunderbolt (Flamethrower may be another good choice as can beat Grass and Bug types which are also a fret to Tyranitar)



I give your team 6/10. Replace Flygon with a Kyogre or something. Replace Dragonite with a Groudon or something similar to cancel out the Sandstorm and to help Blaziken.

Drayano
10th December 2005, 2:20 PM
Lol.

Kyogre and Groudon are UBERS.

They aren't allowed in the standard overused metagame.

SHUCKLE MAN
10th December 2005, 3:59 PM
Lol.

Kyogre and Groudon are UBERS.

They aren't allowed in the standard overused metagame.

I know that but I was giving him the best two Pokemon to go with the rest of this team. He never said that he was participating in OU metagame and some of his team would be considered BL Pokemon so I did not think he was doing an OU team. And whether or not a Pokemon is considered uber, BL, OU, UU, NU, etc. is dependant on the stats, level ratio, moveset, ability and hold-item so a Groudon with Ember (It cannot learn this), Ancientpower, Thundershock (It cannot learn this either) and Mud sport may not be uber. And what category a Pokmemon is in is still a matter of opinion although if he doesn't want Pokemon like that he could try a CB Slaking because he obviously like CBers instead of Flygon and a regice instead of Dragonite so that you can switch into it from your Slaking when it is loafing around or when you want to change its moves and it can use thunderbolt to beat the water types and it can also be a switch in from Salamence to absorb the ice moves.

Still. It was a good team.

aipomkong
10th December 2005, 5:07 PM
Use a quick claw if you wish to use my tanking moveset


Aerial Ace is better allowing you to hit double teamers

1) no one uses quick claw as it is a hax item
2) double team is more or less banned in the ou metagame
3) you have no idea what you are saying

also that thing about groudon, put simply, YOU ARE AN IDIOT

Tazzler
10th December 2005, 11:05 PM
[QUOTE=SHUCKLE MAN] He never said that he was participating in OU metagame [QUOTE]
What about the fact that all of his pokemon are OU?

orangekows
10th December 2005, 11:39 PM
nice... reversal blaziken with tyranitar

chaos952
11th December 2005, 7:02 AM
What the hell? Not only did you suggest horrible movesets, but you also suggested a Gardevoir with no attacking moves and hax items? There is a cliff ----------> over there. Jump off of it. :rolleyes:

orangekows: Thanks man. Clean out your PM box you newbie. :p

SapphireL
11th December 2005, 7:40 AM
Since you have Tyranitar with a EndReversal Blaziken, you should use...

Blaziken (Lonely/Hasty/Mild Nature)
EVs: 252 Speed, 200 Attack, 58 Sp.Attack
-Flamethrower/Fire Blast
-Rock Slide
-Thunder Punch
-Sky Uppercut

I's used it when I's had NB for a whoppin' 10 days. -____- I wish I had NB again. :(

orangekows
11th December 2005, 6:16 PM
k i emptied my PM box

also shuckle man gtfo CRMT. also why would you use groudon that has ember, thundershock, mudsport and ancientpower? seriously use common sense

also you have 3 4x weaknesses to ice. take out salamence and dragonite.

you have 2 skarmbliss counters

fire blast, hp bug, earthquake, rock slide @cb flygon

Fluorescent Adolescent
11th December 2005, 6:36 PM
Since you have Tyranitar with a EndReversal Blaziken, you should use...

Blaziken (Lonely/Hasty/Mild Nature)
EVs: 252 Speed, 200 Attack, 58 Sp.Attack
-Flamethrower/Fire Blast
-Rock Slide
-Thunder Punch
-Sky Uppercut

I's used it when I's had NB for a whoppin' 10 days. -____- I wish I had NB again. :(

You only had NB for 10 days? Wow you're a good rater/player judging by your posts so I'm surprised.

chaos952
11th December 2005, 7:36 PM
How come you don't have NetBattle anymore SapphireL?

Oh, and also, you'll definitely need a Physical Wall as well... Your team won't be taking hits well.

SapphireL
12th December 2005, 7:46 PM
How come you don't have NetBattle anymore SapphireL?

well, I only had it for 10 days because I was on vacation at my aunt's house. She has Windows XP... so it worked.

now though, well, I've always had a Mac. NB doesn't work on Macs. -___- quite frustrating actually. :@

ANYWAYS I suggest adding a Pokemon like Regice to your team. :/

Fluorescent Adolescent
12th December 2005, 7:47 PM
well, I only had it for 10 days because I was on vacation at my aunt's house. She has Windows XP... so it worked.

now though, well, I've always had a Mac. NB doesn't work on Macs. -___- quite frustrating actually. :@

ANYWAYS I suggest adding a Pokemon like Regice to your team. :/

More like Bliss :/

SapphireL
12th December 2005, 7:48 PM
Or bliss.

Just SOMETHING to take Sp.Attacks. :/

Fluorescent Adolescent
12th December 2005, 7:51 PM
Or bliss.

Just SOMETHING to take Sp.Attacks. :/

I was just thinking because he already has thunderbolt and ice punch on gardy so he wouldn't need regice IMO. Besides Bliss is better anyway :/

BTW I'm guessing, next to your avatar, that the *sigh* is there for the fact that Horn Drill was banned...

SapphireL
12th December 2005, 7:55 PM
I was just thinking because he already has thunderbolt and ice punch on gardy so he wouldn't need regice IMO. Besides Bliss is better anyway :/
good point.

A healer as well.

Fluorescent Adolescent
12th December 2005, 8:01 PM
good point.

A healer as well.

Yeah forgot to mention that o_o;