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Infinity
11th December 2005, 9:33 AM
Why hate NetBattle?

Kyogre @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Thunder

Meh

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 50 HP / 80 Def / 220 Spd / 160 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Punch
- Psychic
- Thunder

Jirachi combined with Kyogre is just plain leathal. Thunder 42% par 100% Acc + Ice Punch 20% Frz - Fire Weak. Almost Uber?

Ludicolo (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 84 HP / 136 Def / 152 SAtk / 136 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Giga Drain
- Ice Beam
- Leech Seed
- Surf

Meh

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 74 HP / 252 Def / 64 SAtk / 120 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled

Sponge (Monkeyz) Thinking of Deoxys LG or Heracross.

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 6 HP / 60 Def / 176 Spd / 252 SAtk / 16 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Drill Peck
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Light Screen
- Thunder

Drill Peck is for Cross that can really screw you up if you don't OHKO it.

Salamence (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Hydro Pump
- Rock Slide

Meh

DemonScythe
11th December 2005, 10:02 AM
more of a raindance team, but can work in Ubers
you have a very big Lugia used Calmind weak unless
you plan to depend on *Thunder hax* <_>
Salamence<Rayquaza and you have a water attack that
with those evs is redundant as it will kill nothing you already can..

Infinity
11th December 2005, 10:37 AM
Rayquaza doesn't work too well with me, Extremespeed rapes Deoxys FR, but other than that too many can know Ice Beam for it to be effective. Salamence is faster so I can have a bit of fun with that, plus Intimidate is sexy.

Brick Break is an option I was thinking about. Besides, if Lugia Calm Minded me I'd Calm Mind it right back, so I guess it's all up to that... Anyway I was thinking how useful a Suicune would be over Blissey to possibly even counter Lugia.

Serene Grace is what makes Jirachi very useful, so heck I'm going to abuse it.

DemonScythe
11th December 2005, 11:25 AM
I suppose Rayquaza's Airlock would kill your raindancing
and Salamences 5 extra speed is really useful ._.
But Lugia Calminds and you do too you'll get WW'd so its
quite redundant. I doubt Suicune can counter Lugia since you're
not fast enough to roar, and you already have a water....

WootyMcWoot
11th December 2005, 3:46 PM
Rayquaza is still better imo with having a base 150 attack compared to Salamence's 135.

Hoenir
11th December 2005, 5:46 PM
Why hate NetBattle?

Kyogre @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Thunder

Meh

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 50 HP / 80 Def / 220 Spd / 160 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Punch
- Psychic
- Thunder

Jirachi combined with Kyogre is just plain leathal. Thunder 42% par 100% Acc + Ice Punch 20% Frz - Fire Weak. Almost Uber?

Hmm, this is good, and you have thought this over well. Maybe doom desire in there somewhere?

Ludicolo (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 84 HP / 136 Def / 152 SAtk / 136 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Toxic
- Ice Beam
- Leech Seed
- Surf

Meh

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 74 HP / 252 Def / 64 SAtk / 120 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Ice Beam OR Thunder Wave
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled

Sponge (Monkeyz) Thinking of Deoxys LG or Heracross.

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 6 HP / 60 Def / 176 Spd / 252 SAtk / 16 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Drill Peck
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Light Screen
- Thunder

Drill Peck is for Cross that can really screw you up if you don't OHKO it.

Salamence (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Brick Break
- Rock Slide OR Dragon Dance

Meh

Comments are in bold.

Infinity
12th December 2005, 6:41 AM
The only way I can see Doom Desire to work is breaking a sub, but it'd mess all of its EVs up. Choice Banding with Mence allows it to kill quickly, in the Uber metagame you don't have that much time to DD. Just in case I'm in trouble Giga Drain helps me heal besides once something is seeded it usually triggers a switch. A CMcune can outdo a CMLugia because of Pressure and Rest. I had an over 200 turn battle where I was able to win with a CMCune and thanks to Rest I was able to stall its PP out and win, but I haven't encountered the likes of a WW Lugia yet. Blissey in my opinion needs Ice Beam because I hate being forced to switch out because of ghosts. I'll take some of those suggestions into consideration though.

Jirachi is definately my wild card on this team.

aipomkong
12th December 2005, 12:25 PM
max defence blissey is pointless in ubers, use max sdef, seeming as groudon just shits on it no matter how many defence evs you use

jirachi is easily beaten as it doesn't have wish

Kaiser
12th December 2005, 5:55 PM
Why hate NetBattle?

Kyogre @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Thunder

Meh

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 50 HP / 80 Def / 220 Spd / 160 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Punch
- Psychic
- Thunder


Ludicolo (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 84 HP / 136 Def / 152 SAtk / 136 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Giga Drain
- Ice Beam
- Leech Seed
- Surf



Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 74 HP / 252 Def / 64 SAtk / 120 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled

Just use calm nature,bold is pointless if this is actually an uber team

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 6 HP / 60 Def / 176 Spd / 252 SAtk / 16 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Drill Peck
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Light Screen
- Thunder



Salamence (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Hydro Pump
- Rock Slide
No matter what you say,quaza > this

No offence,but your team seems a little screwed

-MK ;376;