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Basics
14th December 2005, 11:24 PM
Haven't posted a team here in a while. I doubt that many of you could help me, but my basic problems are as follows:
1) Spikes Stalling. I don't have a Spinner, or a very reliable BlissSkarm counter. Celebi and Suicune can mess them both up, but it doesn't always work out like that.
2) CM 'Cune and Boah can also theoritacally cause some problems.

Aerodactyl (M) @ Choice Band ** Lose Yourself
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide
CB 'Dactyl, cool Pokemon with great potential. Only real 100% counter in today's NB battle is Donphan/Swampert (Claydol to an extent too.) Lose Yourself because the song is about having one shot, like a CB Pokemon. Whoamg.

Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Suma *** Laude
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 64 HP / 240 Spd / 204 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt
Top of the class, almost depressingly standard set.

Metagross @ Choice Band ** Cardinal
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 Atk / 152 Def / 104 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Sludge Bomb
Sludge Bomb because 95 Base power is alot better for predicting wrong than 70, and also because well... **** Celebi. 202 Speed because well that's just how I roll. Cardinal because he's seriously the best non-uber Pokemon in the game.

Suicune @ Leftovers ** The Lifeline
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 212 Def / 8 Spd / 48 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Surf
The Lifeline, it will often all come down to Suicune, IMO second best Pokemon in the game.

Celebi @ Leftovers ** Uber
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 136 Def / 4 Spd / 16 SAtk / 112 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Leech Seed
- Psychic
- Recover
Best Celebi set, and a ****ing uber that only fags use.

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers ** Dozer
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 208 HP / 40 Atk / 8 Spd / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Rest
[b]BS for Par, rest for blah. Dozer because it Rests (DOZES OFF) and is a power-hosue (BULL-DOZER)

shoe pilot
15th December 2005, 12:20 AM
thank goodness I use Celejump.

Kaiser
15th December 2005, 12:26 AM
Haven't posted a team here in a while. I doubt that many of you could help me, but my basic problems are as follows:
1) Spikes Stalling. I don't have a Spinner, or a very reliable BlissSkarm counter. Celebi and Suicune can mess them both up, but it doesn't always work out like that.
2) CM 'Cune and Boah can also theoritacally cause some problems.

Aerodactyl (M) @ Choice Band ** Lose Yourself
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide
Adamant aero is more usable imo

Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Suma *** Laude
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 64 HP / 240 Spd / 204 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt
I usually go with:Enough HP for 352 / 252 spd / rest in SAtk.this can actually beat mence.

Metagross @ Choice Band ** Cardinal
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 Atk / 152 Def / 104 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Sludge Bomb
I usually use slide > bom because MM wins to celebi btw,and rock slide > zapdos.

Suicune @ Leftovers ** The Lifeline
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 212 Def / 8 Spd / 48 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Surf
Roar > IB if u want a phazer.

Celebi @ Leftovers ** Uber
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 136 Def / 4 Spd / 16 SAtk / 112 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Leech Seed
- Psychic
- Recover


Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers ** Dozer
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 208 HP / 40 Atk / 8 Spd / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Rest
BS for Par, rest for blah. Dozer because it Rests (DOZES OFF) and is a power-hosue (BULL-DOZER)

OMGWTFNOSKARMORBLISS

-MK ;376;

Basics
15th December 2005, 2:28 AM
Kaiser's remarks noted, then disregarded. I do run Addy Aero now, though. Aside from that, I use SB > RS because SB OHKO's Celebi, MM does not.

Kaiser
15th December 2005, 2:31 AM
i still love when people switch zappy into gross and then gets owned =D

-MK ;376;

chaos952
15th December 2005, 2:59 AM
You're going to have a hell of a time taking down DDtar when it switches in on Celebi...

Basics
15th December 2005, 3:25 AM
Metagross will trade a 1 DD EQ with MM, and Suicune can wall it very effectively, especially if it switches in on Leech Seed. I know it's a threat, but I don't really see it as a major one. Could I use a Wish-IB-Surf-Haze Vaproeon > Suicune? Or would that create too much of a Salamence weakness?

WootyMcWoot
15th December 2005, 2:25 PM
Metagross will trade a 1 DD EQ with MM, and Suicune can wall it very effectively, especially if it switches in on Leech Seed. I know it's a threat, but I don't really see it as a major one. Could I use a Wish-IB-Surf-Haze Vaproeon > Suicune? Or would that create too much of a Salamence weakness?
You could try that. I don't see if you having a salamence problem at all when you have Zapdos, Aerodactyl, and Metagross to switch in on HP Flyings, Zapdos and Aero to switch in on Earthquake, and Metagross to switch in on Rock Slide.