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SlakingMaster
23rd December 2005, 4:26 PM
Nu Team

Pidgeot (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Hidden Power [Ground]
- Quick Attack
- Return

Parasect (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 161 HP / 252 Atk / 97 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aromatherapy
- Hidden Power
- Spore
- Swords Dance

Haunter (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 60 HP / 198 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Giga Drain
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Mantine (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 90 Spd / 168 SAtk / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Electric]
- Ice Beam
- Rain Dance
- Surf

Metang @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Sludge Bomb

Graveler (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Rock Blast

[B]Uu Team

Swellow (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 16 HP / 252 Atk / 242 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Quick Attack
- Return

Houndoom (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Early Bird
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Crunch
- Flamethrower
- Substitute
- Taunt

Misdreavus (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

Steelix (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 53 HP / 217 Atk / 240 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Roar

Grumpig (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 79 HP / 146 Def / 180 SAtk / 105 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Rest
- Thunderpunch

Granbull (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 60 HP / 252 Atk / 198 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Heal Bell
- Return
- Shadow Ball
- Thunder Wave

Pax Deorum
23rd December 2005, 4:32 PM
Nu Team

Pidgeot (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Hidden Power [Ground]
- Quick Attack
- Return

Double Edge>Return

Parasect (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 161 HP / 252 Atk / 97 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aromatherapy
- Hidden Power
- Spore
- Swords Dance

SD isn't that useful, go Double Powder

Haunter (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 60 HP / 198 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Giga Drain
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Haunter is not NU, he's Unevolved

Mantine (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 90 Spd / 168 SAtk / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Electric]
- Ice Beam
- Rain Dance
- Surf

Mantine is definetly not NU

Metang @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Sludge Bomb

Metang is not NU, he's unevolved

Graveler (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Rock Blast

Graveler is not NU, he's unevolved

When will you learn that just because they aren't fully evolved they are NU. UNEVOLVED HAVE THEIR OWN METAGAME

[B]Uu Team

Swellow (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 16 HP / 252 Atk / 242 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Quick Attack
- Return

Double Edge>Return, max Speed, that HP isn't going to make any difference. ADAMANT, Jolly Swellow is gay

Houndoom (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Early Bird
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Crunch
- Flamethrower
- Substitute
- Taunt

HP Grass > Taunt

Misdreavus (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

Psychic>HP Ice, that is a very poor Boltbeamer

Steelix (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 53 HP / 217 Atk / 240 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Roar

Needs less Defence and more HP and about 120 Sp. Defence EVs

Grumpig (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 79 HP / 146 Def / 180 SAtk / 105 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Rest
- Thunderpunch

Defence EVs in HP

Granbull (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 60 HP / 252 Atk / 198 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Heal Bell
- Return
- Shadow Ball
- Thunder Wave

meh


I refuse to rate such NU teams

aipomkong
23rd December 2005, 6:02 PM
houndoom is in no way UU

Blue Ditto
28th December 2005, 1:25 AM
ftw Pidgeot is NOT NU.

That's all I have to say.

Hemp Man
28th December 2005, 3:16 AM
yes it is.

Blue Ditto
28th December 2005, 4:56 AM
It's UU. Even though it's outclassed by Fearow, it will still rape UU teams especially when Golem is not in the way.

Hemp Man
28th December 2005, 5:57 AM
It's outclassed by Fearow, Dodrio, and Swellow.

Blue Ditto
28th December 2005, 7:44 PM
Dodrio = OU, it obviously outclasses Pidgeot.

But there is such a thing as a Pidgeot weak in UU. ._.

≈*Virulent Tsunami*≈
29th December 2005, 3:20 PM
But there is such a thing as a Pidgeot weak in UU. ._.

I'm pretty sure Pidgeot is NU. And there can't be a Pidgeot weak if Fearow and Swellow are in the same Tier, because the two will do a lot more damage than Pidgeot will.


~*CB*~
The 8th Champion

SHUCKLE MAN
29th December 2005, 5:58 PM
I would not think that grumpig is UU, it would probably be OU if it has Calm Mind and Rest.
Pidgeot has got good stats but a terrible movepool.(People even consider giving it Toxic!) So it is probably NU because it is Never Used.

aipomkong
29th December 2005, 6:00 PM
no grumpig is uu

OmastarLover
29th December 2005, 8:53 PM
Hm,i just think using pre evolved pokes such as graveler and Haunter is a cheap and un-snhining way to build a NU team, i would love to see Magcargo, Chimecho, Tropius, Noctowl, Ariados, and many other potentially NU pokes that are usable and EVOLVED!

Alas, IMO Pidgeot is UU and no NU :)

aipomkong
29th December 2005, 9:09 PM
pre-evos aren't NU anyway they are P-E, they have their own metagame

SHUCKLE MAN
30th December 2005, 12:58 PM
Pre-evos are not NU but they could battle fairly well with other NU Pokemon. Ponyta is one of the first stage Pokemon that has the kighest stat total. Ponyta's stats are not assembled the best way possible but it has a fairly good potential in NU being a sunny beamer. Other Pokemon like Metang, Dragonair, Shelgon, Pupitar, Vigoroth, etc. also have good potential in NU battling, even tough they are not NU. Although Houndoom is OU its moveset is not the classic OU moveset. If you want to make sure your Houndoom will have a fair match against other UU teams you could give it Bite instead of Crunch and perhaps Ember, Fire spin, etc. instead of Flamethrower.
One thing people do not understand sometimes is that you can give your Pokemon weaker attacks to change them from OU to UU. Medicham is a great example. Make it a special sweeper it would be UU or NU but make it a physical sweeper and it will be OU.

aipomkong
30th December 2005, 2:19 PM
no a physical attacking magneton would still be ou

movesets do not change used status

usage, and general power makes it up, things are overused because they are used a lot or just own so much **** in uu that they are overpowered (rhydon/Houndoom) and changing their movset to compensate is retarded

Pax Deorum
31st December 2005, 5:49 PM
Listen:
-Pidgeot can hurt that much in NU because of things like Relicanth, even HP Fighting/Ground won't do as much as you'd like, Fearrow and Swellow have better chances hurting Golem
-Grumpig is NOT OU
-Pidgeot does NOT need more movepool
-Pidgeot does NOT need Toxic
-Unstandard movesets or movesets that don't work well with their stats does NOT make a pokemon NU
-Unevolved are NOT NU or UU, they have their own metagame

Hope this cleared some things out. Deciding Pidgeot's tier is very hard though