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    Fierce Fighting at the Battle Pike! VS Pike Queen Lucy!

    Finally at Fuschia City & The Battle Pike, Ash is eager to earn his 4th Frontier Symbol. However Team Rocket are training at the Battle Pike and cause a ruckus. Will Ash be able to stop Team Rocket and still have his Battle?

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    Let just hope Ash beats Lucy, how did team rocket get in there!, probalby a scam
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    I'm guessing there was a Seviper battle/communication of some sort?
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    If Team Rocket were actually training there as it states in the synopsis, I'm guessing its most likely because Jessie heard Lucy also uses a Seviper and wanted to pick up some battling tips so she could improve. If thats the case, then I'm guessing Lucy taking her Seviper down is pretty much inevitable. I'd be surprised if that wasn't the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravy
    Jessie heard Lucy also uses a Seviper and wanted to pick up some battling tips so she could improve.
    Fingers crossed that Jessie managed to pick up some original strategies/new moves to have her seviper utilise... it doesn't happen very often for Team Rocket.
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    Please don't let Lucy fall for Brock.
    Please don't let Lucy fall for Brock.
    Please...*smacked* thanks, I needed that.

    TR is actually training. Could they actually be taking there job seriously. Or are they doing it to be pains in the rear. I fear the latter is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Al
    Please don't let Lucy fall for Brock.
    Please don't let Lucy fall for Brock.
    Please...*smacked* thanks, I needed that.

    TR is actually training. Could they actually be taking there job seriously. Or are they doing it to be pains in the rear. I fear the latter is true.
    I'm going to go with... C) Because it was convenient for the Writers

    These guys are terrible at keeping surprises, or at least for their set-ups. So TR just happens to be training, with Jessie, the member who just happens to have a Seviper, which just happens to be Lucy's signature Pokemon. Again, it's all way too convenient!

    I mean, c'mon, trying some NEW?! Hah! Never.
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    Finally Ash and his friends finally reach Fuschia City and the Battle Pike, Ash can face off against the Battle Pike Queen Champion, Lucy. This is a double battle, Ash's Pikachu and his Donphan VS Lucy's Seviper and her Milotic. It will be quite easy for Ash win this battle because Lucy's Pokemons are weak against his Pikachu and his Donphan. I hope Ash wins this round and get the 4th Frontier Symbol from Lucy. I have seen the episode pictures today. It is good that Donphan defeats Seviper with a Rollout like a Flamethrower & Pikachu defeats Milotic with a powerful Volt Tackle.
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    Oh my god. Could they have made it look any worse? >_>; That's a Battle Circus Tent.

    Anyway, I can't wait to see the battle between Seviper and Donphan. Should be cool, unless it gets interrupted by Team Rocket. Which it might.

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    Meh....first things first I suppose~

    I liked Lucy's personallity. She does have a thing for Brock, but she's not particulary open about it. She blushes whenever he's around or whenever he calls out to her, but she manages to keep cool, calm and collected about it. And personally, I thought her attraction to Brock was really quite sweet :P You have to let out a big 'awwww' when Brock is cheering her on during the battle, to which she promptly starts blushing like a beetroot ^-^

    Also, KC will be pleased to know that she does have an assistant. 4 infact. The one with the sky-blue/white hair being particulary lovely looking.


    Now for the battles =D

    The Donphan vs. Seviper match should have been the focus of this episode. I'm sorry, but I'm not entirely impressed with having to watch Pikachu take down another Milotic again. Granted, the Donphan vs. Seviper battle was enjoyable to watch (Donphan rolling backwards and then propelling itself off the wall with its hind legs was pretty awesome) and it was great to see a Seviper handle itself in battle so well. But it was over way, way, WAAAAY too quickly. Incredibly unimpressive, considering it seems to have been brushed aside in favour of almost half an episode of random, pointless antics and a battle we've essentially seen before. Rubbing salt in the wound by having Donphan instantly KO'd by Milotic doesn't help things either.

    Though, Milotic knowing FACADE was a pleasent surprise however, I'll give them that. But apart from that and Pikachu using Milotic's twister to delvier a drilling Volt Tackle, it was boring. And uhh...thats all there is to it. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravy

    I liked Lucy's personallity. She does have a thing for Brock, but she's not particulary open about it. She blushes whenever he's around or whenever he calls out to her, but she manages to keep cool, calm and collected about it. And personally, I thought her attraction to Brock was really quite sweet :P You have to let out a big 'awwww' when Brock is cheering her on during the battle, to which she promptly starts blushing like a beetroot ^-^
    Wow, Brock you lucky son of a _______.

    Out of all the girls Brock tries to get he has Lucy of all people returning his affection?

    If Brock didn't make some attempt to "stay in contact" with her, then he just missed the biggest opportunity of a lifetime. Please tell me Brock took her cell phone number or something! The one time Brock has it made...and with someone like Lucy no less!

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    It probably will, knowing Team Rocket. Although, Lucy would probably just blast them off with Seviper or Milotic

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    Facade eh?What did it look like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaziken master
    Facade eh?What did it look like?
    It was seen in the preview, and many people thought it was Milotic taking the brunt of Pikachu's Volt Tackle. So basically, it gains and electrified orange aura and tackles the opponent.

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    Jessie was imitating Lucy XD of the ep.

    Is it just me or was Lucy not in her skull this episode? She just seemed, I don't know. :/

    After two weeks of waiting, this was a rather disappointing episode. Lucy rubbed me the wrong way and it just wasn't all it was hyped to be.

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    Well, serebii has the pictures up, and it looks like a cool episode. Donphan is as fun as ever, and the two Seviper DID get to square off. Yay!

    BTW, what was up with Lucy and the housefull of 'cute' Pokemon at the end?

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    And how much damage did it do to Pikachu?

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    Pretty cool episode. It's a pity Jessie's Seviper was nothing in battle but what can you expect? Jessie in an Azami costume was something I didn't expect at all.

    Brock and Azami did get along pretty fine to me. Especially the ending. I want to see the episode with Prof. Ivy and see how she let Brock stay with her. Just by looking at the pics I couldnt tell if the Snorlax, Makuhita and others were actually Pokemon or dolls.

    Yay for Scott appearing! I can agree here. The battle was too short they could have stretched it a bit longer. But the way Donphan got knocked out was pretty funny for me. Ah yes we even see a little bit of May and her Eevee in the beginning. It's a good thing it's not a cry baby.

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    Serebii has posted the pictures. Looks like a good episode and Gravy was right, the battle between Donphan and Seviper was too short.

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    I think those were Pokédolls.

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    They were all real pokémon. Why she keeps a Snorlax in her house is beyond me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cybercubed
    If Brock didn't make some attempt to "stay in contact" with her, then he just missed the biggest opportunity of a lifetime. Please tell me Brock took her cell phone number or something! The one time Brock has it made...and with someone like Lucy no less! =O
    No, he didn't. Because Lucy didn't really want to let on that she had a huge crush on him, she didn't actually say anything about him for the entire episode. Nor did she say anything to him for the entire episode. Whenever Brock would take her hands, she just seemed to freeze ^^;
    And this was one of those rare instances where I wasn't too fond of Masato. Its kind of sad that the one time Brock finds a girl who has strong feelings towards him, Masato just see's it all as the normal routine and drags him away from a potential life partner. Ouch.

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    Several points that I have to comment:

    + Jessie disguised as Lucy?. Why I am not surprised for it?.

    + Seviper vs. Seviper, it was so unavoidable, just like the winner: Lucy's one. It has been very pleasant to see finally a correctly trained Seviper and fighting as a champion.

    + It was very predictable the combat: Seviper vs. Donphan (Donphan wins because Ground beats Poison). Milotic vs. Donphan (Milotic wins because Water beats Ground). Milotic vs. Pikachu (Pikachu wins because Electric beats Water). Besides, knowing Pikachu the mighty Volt Tackle, it was impossible that he lost. (And I was sure that he would use it in the battle).

    + Something curious: Do you remember when Donphan is wrapped in flames?. Even afire, he was able to defeat Seviper. Do you think that attack could be a Flame Wheel?. For me, it has the whole look. It would be amazing if Donphan would know that attack, isn't it?. He would have an advantage against Ice and Grass Pokemon.

    + I don't know, but the possibility about a love's story between Lucy and Brock give me the creeps. Did you notice the Pokemon that she has in her home?: Snorlax, Makurita, Abra, Cyndaquill, Skitty and Swinub. And do you know that all have in common?: The same Brock's face!!!.

    So, what do you think?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddieursa

    + I don't know, but the possibility about a love's story between Lucy and Brock give me the creeps. Did you notice the Pokemon that she has in her home?: Snorlax, Makurita, Abra, Cyndaquill, Skitty and Swinub. And do you know that all have in common?: The same Brock's face!!!.

    So, what do you think?.
    Good eyes Eddieursa. I didn't even notice that. I guess that is why Lucy likes Brock.
    I thought the battle was okay but a little short. However I think it Should have went like this instead, the winners being bolded:
    Pikachu vs Milotic
    Pikachu vs Seviper
    Donphan vs Seviper

    Well at least now all of the pokemon in Ash's party have battled a brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddieursa
    It was very predictable the combat: Seviper vs. Donphan (Donphan wins because Ground beats Poison). Milotic vs. Donphan (Milotic wins because Water beats Ground). Milotic vs. Pikachu (Pikachu wins because Electric beats Water). Besides, knowing Pikachu the mighty Volt Tackle, it was impossible that he lost. (And I was sure that he would use it in the battle).
    True enough, but I was impressed with the various strategies Azami/Lucy employed to try to counter those weaknesses. And it was certainly well trained, not being beaten even by Donphan's Hyper Beam and taking several hits before going down. Donphan too performed well.

    I'd say that the Donphan vs. Seviper battle was the better of the two simply because it was more unique and seemed pretty fast-paced. And Donphan's Rollout-O-Flame was awesome.

    Still, I loved the way they had Milotic use Facade and the way it got beaten by Pikachu (much better than the odd eighth gym battle where Pikachu somehow forces Milotic underwater, when I see the episode maybe it will make more sense). Incidentally, Milotic's ability raises its defense if it has a status condition (as it did when Pikachu apparently paralyzes it) while Facade is twice as strong if the Pokemon has a status condition, so Lucy basically can make a poisoned, burned or paralyzed Milotic even stronger than before.

    Though Milotic again suffers from having most of its body hidden for most of the battle. It needs some well animated scenes of it on land like Gyarados got in the first movie.

    + Something curious: Do you remember when Donphan is wrapped in flames?. Even afire, he was able to defeat Seviper. Do you think that attack could be a Flame Wheel?. For me, it has the whole look. It would be amazing if Donphan would know that attack, isn't it?. He would have an advantage against Ice and Grass Pokemon.
    Well in the games Donphan has a extremely low Special Attack stat so a Fire attack would do it little good. Besides, it learns some Rock attacks for Ice types.

    As for the anime this looked to me to simply be another of those wonderful improvised moves. Ash relied on Donphan's high defenses (which in the anime are for special and non special attacks) to enable it to last long enough in the flames to use them against Seviper. Thus we get a Rollout combiend with Flamethrower.

    + I don't know, but the possibility about a love's story between Lucy and Brock give me the creeps. Did you notice the Pokemon that she has in her home?: Snorlax, Makurita, Abra, Cyndaquill, Skitty and Swinub. And do you know that all have in common?: The same Brock's face!!!.
    Indeed! It was great and makes me hope they never put Brock with anyone else so fans can always imagine him coming back to Lucy one day. He did actually seem to still be infatuated with her even when they were on the boat leaving. I mean Brock fans have had few viable choices ever since Suzie hooked up with that Ninetales trainer, and now low and behold comes Lucy with her slit-eyed fetish. She's even fairly local.

    And was that thing Lucy kept throwing a plastic flower with a Seviper on it or a pinwheel with Seviper on it?

    I feel like vomiting, swallowing my vomit, and then vomiting again once it is digested.

    Seriously I've lost all faith in the anime. I'm mad now because how can Lucy blush so much. Those stupid writers made me lose respect. Pfft hardly any battle, and Pika takes the win yet again.
    So giving a Brain a bit more character than in the games is wrong? I think its fine that they didn't make Lucy some cold, aloof person and nothing more. Everybody has their soft spots and for Lucy its things with Brock-eyes. There's certainly nothing in the game to disprove that. The trouble is fans making their own assumptions about game characters who have very little revealed about them in the games.

    And seriously, Pikachu learning Volt Tackle meant it would be used for some major victories. You should be glad that Pikachu has played such a small role in most of the Brain battles.

    As for myself I don't know how long the battles were, can't tell from screenshots, but I think its better to have short battles with both Pokemon doing a lot of damage and skillful techniques than long battles that don't. This episode certainly seemed to have the former. A bad battle would have had Seviper get beaten by that Hyper Beam, not surviving it and coming back for more hits.

    Personally I see no reason to complain about this episode except to say it deserved better animation (though the animation at least doesn't seem to be the worst available).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokemon Fan
    Indeed! It was great and makes me hope they never put Brock with anyone else so fans can always imagine him coming back to Lucy one day. He did actually seem to still be infatuated with her even when they were on the boat leaving. I mean Brock fans have had few viable choices ever since Suzie hooked up with that Ninetales trainer, and now low and behold comes Lucy with her slit-eyed fetish. She's even fairly local.
    Heh, I wonder if a Brock x Lucy ship was named yet. She actually seems like a good choice for him, since we know he's only going to get rejected by almost every other girl he tries to get.

    And Lucy being in Kanto IS good for Brock.

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