Odd Pokémon Out! (438)

[ghost master]

Let me get this straight, Grovyle is suffering brain damage because he got dumped by Meganium. That's it, the writers were on crack writing this episode.

Well I can kinda understand. Sceptile has always been about being the best. He doesnt like to fail. So that can be why, not to mention his whole love thing and being in a new body are probally contributing as well.

[Jo-Jo]

which ones? the ones now on his back or the other ones?

....Both? Iunno, I don't want to think about it too closely.

[JazzJazz]

So that can be why, not to mention his whole love thing and being in a new body are probally contributing as well.

I understand it from the point of being in a new body, remember when bayleef first evolved and it didn't know its own strength?

[Eddieursa]

I hope all this story about "Sceptile can't use any moves" will be just temporary. It sounds ridiculous that a evolved Pokemon suddenly forgets all its movements!!!. Some Pokemon learns new moves when they evolve, just like when "Treecko" learned Leaf Blade when he evolved to "Grovyle". But that it happens the opposite it's ridiculous!!.

The attacks used up to now by Grovyle are: Pound, Quick Attack, Leaf Blade and Bullet Seed. (Not many, right. But they are very effective). So I hope the writters don't even think about make Sceptile loses those attacks permanently. And well, I also hope Sceptile will learn Solar Beam too.

Does Grovyle evolve in the battle or after defeat Tropius?. What happens at the end with Tropius, Nurse Joy and her Meganium?. And how Ash and company discover that Sceptile can't use his attacks?. I hope somebody can respond me.

[Korobooshi Kojiro]

Sceptile will probably kick some major butt soon, I expect this to be a temporary(and somewhat orginal) hitch.

Maybe Meganium fell in love with Tropius because Sceptile is somewhat lacking......hey, the tails gotta be compensating for something.^.^

[≈*Virulent Tsunami*≈]

I actually think they're going about this in a good way. At the height of its victory, Sceptile gets its heart stomped on by rejection. Yeah, it's happened before, but this time there's lasting damage, which is actually a lot more realistic. Pretty much every love-induced evolution is forgotten in the episode after. So much for true love, eh? Well, not for Sceptile. Sceptile will probably be in mourning in the next few episodes. I'm quite excited to see how Ash is going to overcome this impediment, really. Not much repairs a broken heart 0_0

Anyway, I think this a good twist. Lovelutions are falt-out annoying, so actually seeing some creativity in it is a most welcome change. Bravo writers

~*CB*~
The 8th Champion

[ghost master]

understand it from the point of being in a new body, remember when bayleef first evolved and it didn't know its own strength?

I forget who posted on bmgf but, they said Nurse Joy explained that it was mainly because of Meganium's rejection.

I actually think they're going about this in a good way. At the height of its victory, Sceptile gets its heart stomped on by rejection. Yeah, it's happened before, but this time there's lasting damage, which is actually a lot more realistic. Pretty much every love-induced evolution is forgotten in the episode after. So much for true love, eh? Well, not for Sceptile. Sceptile will probably be in mourning in the next few episodes. I'm quite excited to see how Ash is going to overcome this impediment, really. Not much repairs a broken heart 0_0

Anyway, I think this a good twist. Lovelutions are falt-out annoying, so actually seeing some creativity in it is a most welcome change. Bravo writers

Yeah its something new non cliche and it also will span out for more than one episode.

[MasterJedi]

Anybody have any pics of how Ash's Sceptile looks?

[Geodude]

Anybody have any pics of how Ash's Sceptile looks?

That's obviously gonna take a while. Nobody here outside of Japan has even seen the ep yet, or else they would've said so by now. As usual, it won't be till at least late tomorrow morning before more details and pics are available.

[Golden Darkness]

Some few tidbits:

Nurse Joy's Meganium was actually in love with the Tropius, and the Tropius with Meganium.

Team Rocket's part of the episode was getting Meganium in order to get Tropius.

That white glow around Grovyle in the preview? That becomes the full body glow of the evolution sequence.

Because it couldn't use its trademark grass attacks, Sceptile got beat around by Seviper and Cacnea.

[Gaiash]

Because it couldn't use its trademark grass attacks, Sceptile got beat around by Seviper and Cacnea.

thats gotta be embarresing, poor Sceptile.

[ChaosMage]

Sceptile deserved more of a Donphan/Swellow/Combusken/Ludicolo/Marshtomp/Glalie evolution- learns an attack instantly, kicks arse straight away and continues to rock for all time. Not this crappy lovesick forgetting attacks bullplop.

And it may have lost its Leaf Blade because its elbow leaves have changed. it should still know Bullet Seed, though.

[nameless]

And it may have lost its Leaf Blade because its elbow leaves have changed. it should still know Bullet Seed, though.

I'm pretty sure it'll still be able to use leaf blade, it's just gonna have to be done differently.

Is this the first time a pokemon has evolved and lost it's ability to fight?

[Gryphon Turboclaw]

I'm pretty sure it'll still be able to use leaf blade, it's just gonna have to be done differently.

Is this the first time a pokemon has evolved and lost it's ability to fight?

Now that I think about it, no. Remember how Marsala's Octillery---of Whirl Islands fame---couldn't fight well at all after evolving(due to having been rejected by its Remoraid brethren)? What happened to Sceptile sounds like the exact same situation, except with a crush instead of comrades.

One thing for sure, this definitely *won't* help Ash's viewpoint on love in the least.

[Jikkle]

It's unlikely that'll use leaf blade and it will be a different animation as nameless mentioned. If the writers go somewhat by the game and the pokedex than it'll have leaf blade still and should actually be faster and more agile than Grovyle was. Couple of pokedex entries here:

"The leaves growing on SCEPTILE's body are very sharp edged. This Pokemon is very agile - it leaps all over the brances of trees and jumps on it's fore from above or behind."

"The leaves on it's forelegs are sharp as swords. It agilely leaps about the branches of trees to strike."

"In the jungle, it's power is without equal. This Pokemon carefully grows trees and plants. It regulaters its body temperature by basking in sunlight."

It should be ok on moves in a couple of episodes when you consider that AG165 is a jungle battle and it's pretty much 99% guranteed Ash will use Sceptile in that battle.

[The Big Al]

I see a lot of pain for Seviper and Canea in a couple episodes. No doubt Sceptile will have a lot of catching up to do when he does get his attacks back.

[E4Babosow]

Hooraaayyy!!!Ash has my Favorite Pokemon on his team.Finally he has a Good team now...geez i was getting tired of seeing ash with first and second evolution pokemon on his teams...god...Now If he HAd Charizard and if his Corpish evolve he will become Badass eventually....Or He could Get a Badass pokemon from the NEw Generation in the Episodes to come...or Just Get Snorlax,Tauros ou Muk from Prof.Oak.Still..Corpish Must Evolve!

[nameless]

Now that I think about it, no. Remember how Marsala's Octillery---of Whirl Islands fame---couldn't fight well at all after evolving(due to having been rejected by its Remoraid brethren)? What happened to Sceptile sounds like the exact same situation, except with a crush instead of comrades.

Ah yes now I remember that one.

So it's not rare but it's not common either for a pokemon to be thrown into that situation. But it's a nice change I suppose from the typical pokemon evolving and then learning new moves right off the bat.

This isn't the first time it had problems with moves; it had difficulty mastering pound and then following with bullet seed.

One thing for sure, this definitely *won't* help Ash's viewpoint on love in the least.

Totodile -> rejected
Sceptile -> rejected

Am I missing anyone else? Excluding brock of course. Oh wait, there's butterfree but that was the only one

It's unlikely that'll use leaf blade and it will be a different animation as nameless mentioned. If the writers go somewhat by the game and the pokedex than it'll have leaf blade still and should actually be faster and more agile than Grovyle was. Couple of pokedex entries here:

There really is no reason WHY it should not be able to use leaf blade.

[Magus]

Anybody who's worried about Sceptile's lack of attacks? Keep the title of episode 440 in mind. Its meaning is a lot more clear now.

[£añkaÑ]

Totodile -> rejected
Sceptile -> rejected

Am I missing anyone else? Excluding brock of course. Oh wait, there's butterfree but that was the only one.

Acutally u missed Corpish i guess..lol

it wasn't a big one...

but it was after Mawile during Lombre evolving ep!

but i do say that Sceptile will proably different with now using it's tail to help do some new battle style.

I'm sure that it'll be in the Jungle Battle for the next Symbol