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    For a level 5 bold chansey, a 41 stat in HP can have a range of 20-31 while a 7 stat in defense and a 17 stat in sp.def can narrowly range from 30-31. Defense & sp.def are almost guaranteed to be flawless but HP for some odd reason I've noticed lately seems to rarely inherit either parent's flawless HP IV even when both are flawless. Not sure if any others of you experience this too.

    Of the over 650 wynauts I hatched last week, only about 70 had at least an HP stat that appeared to be flawless.

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    well, i think i've got my winner for the modest CM blissey. not triple flawless like the mother, but much better overall.

    29 hp / 30 atk / 29 def / 31 sp atk / 28 sp def / 25-26 spd

    two points off hp and def, three off sp def, and speed and attack aren't too important but very good things here!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expert Evan View Post
    Of the over 650 wynauts I hatched last week, only about 70 had at least an HP stat that appeared to be flawless.
    O_O

    Holy crap, that about 93 eggs per day.

    All I have is my Hasty Pichu with IVs of 24/25/29/31/31/27 and that surprisingly took less than 20 tries.


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    What's the best moveset and EV's for a Zapdos?
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    I got shiny crobat and raichu from a friend and the evs are certainly not planned. So I was wondering if its too late to change that. (Raichu is lvl 38 and crobat is lvl 70)

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    Baton Pass from XD if you can get it
    Substitute
    Thunderbolt
    HP Grass (if you can get it)

    I usually go with alot of Sp attack and speed and some hp. But its been awhile since I played Netbattle so I don't know the exact numbers.
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    My latest breeding was for another bold chansey with natural cure ability, impressive in abilities and happens to know substitute, heal bell & toxic from father skitty. Her calculated IVs are:

    HP: 31
    Attack: 28
    Defense: 31
    Sp.atk: 10
    Sp.def: 31
    Speed: 2

    While it has the desireable triple-flawless in hp/defense/sp.def, I wish its speed and attack were reversed, and since it has low sp.atk I don't intend to teach it ice beam and use the classic seismic toss move instead. Here are the stats of the natural cure bold blissey I already have at level 100 as it knows aromatherapy from father roselia along with toxic, seismic toss & softboiled:

    HP: 714 (IV=31, EV=252)
    Attack: 26 (IV=4)
    Defense: 130 (IV=31, EV=252)
    Sp.atk: 179 (IV=24)
    Sp.def: 307 (IV=31, EV=6)
    Speed: 142 (IV=27)

    I don't think I can ever get much of a better blissey than this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikou77 View Post
    What's the best moveset and EV's for a Zapdos?
    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    EVs: 176 HP / 156 Spd / 176 SAtk
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Substitute
    - Thunderbolt
    - Agility/Hidden Power [Grass/Ice]

    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    EVs: 252 HP / 20 Spd / 60 SAtk / 176 SDef
    Calm/Modest Nature (+SDef/+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Thunderbolt
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Hidden Power [Grass/Ice]


    Quote Originally Posted by Kabuto View Post
    I got shiny crobat and raichu from a friend and the evs are certainly not planned. So I was wondering if its too late to change that. (Raichu is lvl 38 and crobat is lvl 70)
    If they've already recieved Battle EXP, then you can't start EV training since you don't know where the previous EVs went.


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    Ok for a curselax some thing's have changed.

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    Since the elemental punches are pysical now why in every curselax set people put fire punch?? Would ice punch be good as well.
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    ok i have a question

    umm i have never ev/iv trained and i plan on battling on wifi when american d/p comes out
    but everyone ev/iv trains so my question is when i battle with just normal trained pokemon would i still have a chance of winning or should i start ev/iv training

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    kill and run, your chance of winning depends on the opponent. There will be few opponents out there that don't EV train as well. If you do go against a fully EV trained team, then your team will most likely fall, unless the opponent decides to use the wrong moves.

    Anyway, its best if you start EV/IV training. Its not that hard and the results at the end are worth it.

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    ok thank you very much this hopefully will help me alot thanks alot

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    If they've already recieved Battle EXP, then you can't start EV training since you don't know where the previous EVs went.
    Isn't there a way to erase Evs in emerald?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabuto View Post
    Isn't there a way to erase Evs in emerald?
    yes .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alzi~Pokemon Master View Post
    Since the elemental punches are pysical now why in every curselax set people put fire punch?? Would ice punch be good as well.
    Fire Punch hits Steels because just about every team will have Skarmory/Jibacoil/Metagross. Fire also hits Ghosts. Ice isn't that good since you'll get walled by


    Quote Originally Posted by Kabuto View Post
    Isn't there a way to erase Evs in emerald?
    Pomeg Berry: -10 HP EVs
    Kelpsy Berry: -10 Attack EVs
    Qualot Berry: -10 Defense EVs
    Hondew Berry: -10 Sp. Attack EVs
    Grepa Berry: -10 Sp. Defense EVs
    Tamato Berry: -10 Speed EVs


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    aragorn bird u seem to know alot of good ev spreads.. can u plz give me one for a new miltank and also a new ludicolo?im raising them both tommorow thx for the info

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    EV spreads are completely dependent on the role you want the Pokemon to play.

    So posting natures and movesets would be adviseable.
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    meehhh..ludicolo would be staller cuz he sucks doin nething else..as far as miltank i made a ton of em so u suprise me..MUST HAVE ...iono suprise me darnit

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    I would also reccomend finding the ivs of the pokemon you want ivs for so you can use evs to get a stat to a certain figure.
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    I now have yet another quadruple-flawless pokemon, this time a bold squirtle as follows:

    HP: 22
    Attack: 24
    Defense: 31
    Sp.atk: 31
    Sp.def: 31
    Speed: 31

    I know HP is probably its most important stat but was wondering what should be its EV distribution if I want to make it a bulky water. It does not have any egg moves though I intend to at least teach it any of the necessary TM or HM moves it could learn since I can always clone for more TMs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expert Evan View Post
    I now have yet another quadruple-flawless pokemon, this time a bold squirtle as follows:

    HP: 22
    Attack: 24
    Defense: 31
    Sp.atk: 31
    Sp.def: 31
    Speed: 31

    I know HP is probably its most important stat but was wondering what should be its EV distribution if I want to make it a bulky water. It does not have any egg moves though I intend to at least teach it any of the necessary TM or HM moves it could learn since I can always clone for more TMs.

    252 hp/148 def/108(special def/special atk)
    Surf/Possibly hydro pump, sleep talk preserves its low pp
    Ice Beam
    Rest
    Sleep Talk/Counter/Toxic/Roar


    Shame it hasnt got mirror coat. I have a similar one, and it survives t-bolts most of the time, and is very hard to ohko.
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    Good thing for cloning I could possibly go blastoise with surf, ice beam, rest & toxic/counter/roar. I already used sleep talk move tutor on milotic. Does the 108 go in either sp.atk or sp.def or split 54/54 or similar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expert Evan View Post
    Good thing for cloning I could possibly go blastoise with surf, ice beam, rest & toxic/counter/roar. I already used sleep talk move tutor on milotic. Does the 108 go in either sp.atk or sp.def or split 54/54 or similar?
    It was either special attack or special defence. I prefer more in the defences. You could also go 40 sp attack, 68 special defence to give his attacks a little more kick.

    EDIT: and, in dp sleep talk is a tm so you could tranfer it and teach it then. Rapid spin is also a good option, but not very useful ingame, but good for competitive.
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    Is this a good Ev Spread for My milotic?

    Milotic
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    EVs: 252 Def, 210 Hp, 48 Sp. Atk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirschberger View Post
    Is this a good Ev Spread for My milotic?

    Milotic
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    EVs: 252 Def, 210 Hp, 48 Sp. Atk
    if you have a flawless HP IV, go with 212 HP EVs to max leftovers recovery. if not, say what its HP IV is and we'll tell you what to do.
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    Argh, stupid downtime didn't get my post through.

    Anyways, Kotton, Staller Ludi wants

    Ludicolo
    EVs: 252 HP / 96 Def / 160 SDef
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)

    Miltank, who should be using the Curse set, wants

    Miltank
    EVs: 252 HP / 48 Def / 208 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)


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