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    Default Vileplume or Bellossom?

    I'm having trouble choosing which one of these I'm gonna use for my current team, I don't see much difference between teh two, except for the fact that 'Plume gets STAB Sludge Bomb (Dunno if it's smart to use that on it though) and Aromatherapy, but Bellossom has a better non-Solarbeam grass move

    The rest of the party, if it helps, will be this (Granted I don't abuse the Colluseum trade trick)

    Blaziken
    Gardevoir
    Exploud
    Crobat
    Walrein
    Vileplume/Bellossom

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    vileplume
    - sunny day / swords dance
    - solarbeam / sludge bomb
    - aromapherapy
    - sleep powder
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0mastar
    vileplume
    - sunny day / swords dance
    - solarbeam / sludge bomb
    - aromapherapy
    - sleep powder
    Agreed, the last thing you want in your party is a bellossom, especially when your other option ( Vileplume ) does everything it can do and better.

    I would personally go with:

    Vileplume
    -Swords Dance
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Aromatherapy
    -Sleep Powder

    Those are all on the ones that he listed and I think setting up the solarbeam may spell certain death. Sure you have sleep powder, but if it wakes up you're toast, I always like to make sure I can at -least- defend myself, in any situation. You never want to put yourself in the situation where you could be getting drilled for more damage than you want to take, which is why -some- combos don't work 100% of the time on -some- Pokemon. I don't think solarbeam is right for Vileplume, personally. So I suggest the moveset I gave. After all, my opinion on this is arguable though, so really its your decision.

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    if you want a sunny beamer use

    Eggzecutor
    Modest/Timid

    Sunny Day
    Solar Beam
    Sleep Powder
    HP:Fire/Ice/ or Psychic

    If you want a physical grass type

    Venasaur
    Adament

    Leech Seed
    Swords Dance
    Sludge Bomb
    EQ

    vilplume is a better cleric type bellosom sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOY MACHINE
    if you want a sunny beamer use

    Eggzecutor
    Modest/Timid

    Sunny Day
    Solar Beam
    Sleep Powder
    HP:Fire/Ice/ or Psychic

    If you want a physical grass type

    Venasaur
    Adament

    Leech Seed
    Swords Dance
    Sludge Bomb
    EQ

    vilplume is a better cleric type bellosom sucks

    Eggzecutor = The best sunbeamer in my opinion, follow this mans advice if that's what you're looking for.

    Also, Venasaur can be quite the iritating one if you drop a decent move set on it, considering it has a fair amount of staying power on the field

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    I'm just looking for a nice grass type, that's all. And I currently can't get Venusaur OR Eggy (Not that far in LG right now due to restarting for Venusaur)

    I'll stick with Vileplume then, thanks for the help

    Oh, and does anyone know a decent Exploud set?

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    the best set for exploud is not using it

    use slaking if this is a normal type for s/r/e

    snorlax for fr/lg

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    Exploud is lol, so for your own good, heed TOY MACHINE's advice. If you insist, here's my InGame suggestion, though the best suggestion (Not using it) has already been mentioned.

    Exploud @ Leftovers
    Adamant Nature (+Atk., -SAtk.)
    - Howl
    - Brick Break
    - Return
    - Shadow Ball

    EDIT: I had originally suggested Choice Band. Wonder what I was smoking.
    Last edited by ZNtelle; 13th February 2006 at 2:44 AM.

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    What is the point of Howl if it has the Choice Band...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nine Thou

    Exploud @ Leftovers
    Adamant Nature (+Atk., -SAtk.)
    - Howl
    - Brick Break
    - Return
    - Shadow Ball
    Howl w/ CB is lol. Or if you like Fire Blast over Howl and CB over Lefties.... its up to you
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    Exploud

    Focus Punch
    Howl
    Earthquake
    Return
    Last edited by jindahouse; 12th February 2006 at 5:47 PM.

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    Too bad he doesn't learn focus punch.
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    Bellosom. Since it's pure grass, it dosn't suffer from the annoying 4x weakness to fire and additional 2x weakness to psychic that Vileplume has.
    Otherwise, though, there rather on par. The only diffrence between there stats is that their special stats are switched. and thye both have movepools consisting mostly of grass, poison, and normal type moves.

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    Vileplume is a lot better
    -It gets a Swords Dance STAB Sludge Bomb
    -Cannot get poisoned
    -With the poison he gains a fighting resistance
    -Better Special attacker
    -Aromatherapy
    -Looks less ridiculous to Oddish and Gloom compared to Bellossom, which somewhat breaks the family line
    -The RBY original

    Also master chuckle, Vileplume isn't 4x weak to fire
    Last edited by Freakshow; 12th February 2006 at 9:39 PM.
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    I'd use Bellosom for contests and Vileplume for battle buit If you have Emerald then Vileplume...that way you can use The sun stone on Sunkern to get a sunflora...

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