Discussion Topic: Layouts

[AgentChronon]

Well if you want to keep arguing I guess we can.

[Goldyoshi]

I prefer three column layouts. Personally, I find them much easier to edit that horizontal ones...

What else? Oh yeah, it's easier to do image based layouts with 3 Columns than drop-down horizontal.

And....um....I forgot anything else. xP

[AgentChronon]

Yay you support me woohoo!

[Magma Leader Maxie]

I prefer three column layouts. Personally, I find them much easier to edit that horizontal ones...

There are a lot of sites with 3 column layouts though. That's partially why I prefer other layout solutions.

By the way, your site's layout is quasi-original, but the page is too wide, thereby creating the widely-hated x-axis scrollbar.

[AgentChronon]

Eh I know my site's layout isn't original but I still really like it.

[Faltzer]

I prefer three column layouts. Personally, I find them much easier to edit that horizontal ones...

What else? Oh yeah, it's easier to do image based layouts with 3 Columns than drop-down horizontal.

And....um....I forgot anything else. xP

Way to TRY and prove a point that didn't actually come to prove the right way. You can't just say it's easier to make a 3-column layout and then easy to edit,because you need CSS alignining and probably some cellpadding and all that crap,Smogons layout is horizontal,and I find it real easy to edit,3-columns make the html document longer,including all the links and directories you have located on your website. It's easier to edit horizontal layouts then editing 3-column by hundreds of times,you can always just an SSI code or PHP include code,cause that's what those server-side scripting languages are there for.

[Magma Leader Maxie]

Precisely what Faltzer said, all layouts are easy to edit if you divide the page into a header and a footer, and then use a SSS language to dynamically include the code (ASP, PHP, JSP).

For my site I built a blank page to test the layout. Then I split it into a header and a footer, and added two functions to a function-library script, build_magma_header('Title of the page') and build_magma_footer().

All I need to do is include the function library, and those functions (as well as others) are available. This cuts down the ammount of cumbersome HTML coding (which inevitably leads to mistakes). For a multi-page site, some form of SSI must be implemented lest you want to produce "HTML soup" as Dragonfree aptly calls it.

SSI tags like <!--#include --> do pretty much the same, although they look like normal HTML comments and are easy to skip and lead again to mistakes.

[AgentChronon]

Uh... I use SSI

[Magma Leader Maxie]

Ok... so why then is it easier to manage 3-columned sites?

[Faltzer]

SSI just looks like normal HTML comments,which is why now most excellent web hosts support php over SSI,because you can do everything better with PHP,then SSI. Also,you forgot that you can use JS includes to also dynamically include your files. There are other languages to use then just SSI & PHP.

PS:That's a real cool post you made there,Chronon.

[AgentChronon]

Wait were you being sarcastic or something?

*browses over topic list* I see no cool posts.

[Faltzer]

You're using SSI,so explain,how exactly does it make it easier to edit then other non-3 column layouts?

[AgentChronon]

It doesn't. I guess. I don't see how SSI is harder to use than PHP I always keep it at the very top and very bottom so yeah.

Incidenty, freewebs supports SSI and not PHP. Weird.

[Faltzer]

I didn't say SSI was harder then PHP. PHP is HARDER then SSI is. Freewebs is a bad host for not supporting the good old programming languages. It's only good for real small or personal websites. Serious website? No.

[AgentChronon]

Wait... but if PHP is harder than SSI why is freewebs bad? I am really confused.

I do not see why freewebs is only good for small sites it is really cool!!!!

[Faltzer]

50 file limit for free accounts. It's bad,I have more then 50 pages on my site.

[AgentChronon]

Somehow I don't know how but when I got to 50 files I could still make more... don't ask me why. Maybe it's because I was in HTML.

[Faltzer]

Wether in HTML or Easy Mode they don't allow more then 50 files. Although,I might be wrong in assuming the HTML files count.

[AgentChronon]

Yeah I think you are. I thought I would have to pay ten bucks but no I didn't.

[Faltzer]

10 bucks for just 200 MB is bad. I can pay less and get a lot more then that.