Discussion Topic: Layouts

**Magma Leader Maxie** · 15th August 2006, 12:00 PM

And XD375, don't use bitmap images on your site. They are massive files and take an awfully long time to load on pages that are received over a dial-up connection.

Use PNG or GIF instead for web graphics.

**AgentChronon** · 15th August 2006, 1:59 PM

Gif messes up in Paint, so use PNG. PNGs rule!

***Ra*** · 18th September 2006, 8:34 PM

Yo XD375 u said that u wrote

right, well im not sure but i dont think there should be a body tag then rite after that a body background tag. I believe it should just be <Body Background="http://www.freewebs.com/xd375/background.bmp"> and if that doesnt work, i have a feeling there is a problem with how u are getting the image onto the website. Maybe a small mistake like u forgot to add Url or something small and u didn't notice it, but i can't thhink of any mistakes.

**wally4eva** · 15th October 2006, 12:53 PM

are we allowed yo reuest a layout here? because if we are i request a diamond and pearl or a latios themed layout, just need the outline i want:
left nav right nav quick links (like serebii) just leave the links blank as link and i will add them in.
Thanks.
My sites layout is rubbish

**Squall** · 5th March 2007, 5:59 PM

I don't think anyone is patient enough to make you a layout. Just google for a free one/tutorial.

**kevind23** · 13th August 2007, 7:49 AM

Well since this conversation dropped off the face of the earth I might as well attempt to revive it...

I prefer Web 2.0 layouts. While dark is nice and easy on the eyes, it gets old after a while and extremely annoying. Personally, I can't stand Serebii's layout...Oh how I would love to give this site a makeover

Anyway, that's just me. Any other opinions out there, or is this forum just dead?

**hybridgoomba** · 25th September 2007, 11:01 PM

No frames, good graphics(not drawn crappily in paint), neat, and not eye hurting.

**blueparukia** · 26th September 2007, 11:50 AM

I do simple, to the point layouts with simple Ajax effects for my sites.Things that are easy to find your way around, and that nice PHP include() function for DHTML menus. I do quite a bit of complex coding in the Ajax/DHTML areas, but make the layout as simple as possible. I am not a big fan of Web 2.0 layouts, but am starting to get used to them.

BP

**Charizard_Millky** · 4th October 2007, 11:52 AM

I have a question:

When you make a layout take up the whole screen, what happens to the background colour/image?

**blueparukia** · 4th October 2007, 12:10 PM

Well, generally the background image will continually repeat itself.

Though you can set background-repeat to repeat-x, repeat-y or none

BP

**Charizard_Millky** · 4th October 2007, 12:11 PM

I know it will repeat but I'm wondering, would I be able to see it or not when the layout takes up the whole screen.

**blueparukia** · 4th October 2007, 12:30 PM

You mean when you but stuff on top of it? Well, solid objects will cover the background.

Divs are transparent by default, and any other elements (including divs) can be made transparent by using the filter markup in CSS.

I am not sure what you mean,

BP

**Charizard_Millky** · 5th October 2007, 5:39 AM

I'm asking this:

If I make the layout cover the whole screen (like Serebii's) would I be able to see the background images (say a blue and red check pattern) or would I only be able to see the background colour of the left and right nav bars and the content?

**blueparukia** · 6th October 2007, 2:58 AM

I answered your question...

You will only be able to see background if the object on top of it is transparent.

Like Serebii, for example, the background is a shade of black, but the nav bars cover it up, though as the div containing the main content is transparent, you can see the black behind it.

BP

**Charizard_Millky** · 13th October 2007, 2:44 AM

OK. Thanks. I think I got a little confused with what you said. Thanks!

**Renneh** · 24th May 2008, 3:08 PM

mehness, well I did give a more lengthy relpy but as I submitted, the forum decided to log me out.

Anyway, I love simplicity, the use of css with navigation, I don't like dark backgrounds as they hurt my eyes... therefore they must hurt everyone elses eyes. Simplicity is important because if you want to make something more bold then its easily done where as if everything is bold, nothing will stand out.

Use of CSS is a big thing for me actually.

Oh and neatness and cleanesss.. colours that work together.

And I like the layout to actually suit the purpose of the website and connect with the likely audience.

I'm a bit miserable as I haven't done any layouts in ages because of my exams XPP

**regigigas5000** · 4th October 2008, 9:57 AM

i like layouts similar to the serebii layout and any colours(just as long as they dont make my eyes see double!) and well anything thats easy to navigate basically

**Shana_miku** · 2nd November 2008, 4:33 AM

I choose a template first (cause I use Freewebs). Then I just put a custom background image and the logo banner. I only use simple layouts. But sometimes, I also use DIV Layouts.

**stillDoLLxx** · 6th July 2009, 10:56 PM

i like DIV layouts the best. Any colors (but neon and suuper bright colors) work for me.

**Mumei** · 25th July 2009, 3:08 AM

Personally I like graphical layouts, though I'm very picky as far as those go. Basically I don't like sharp corners or different colors on a picture's background and the page's background except for in cases such as drop shadows or if there's a border between them and they're different colors for good reason. They also have to be at least relatively consistent in color where any sort of content is. And if the header is graphical, the rest should be graphical to an extent. The graphicalness shouldn't just stop after the header.

As far as non-graphical layouts go, I like a good amount of separation between different colors (with borders and such), and generally sticking to a certain theme or hue with the colors. And I do like at least a few minor graphics even with a non-graphical layout.

I'm also a fan of centering (not the text itself, but the content area should be centered in the browser window. Or slightly off-center for artistic effect, but not just smushed against the left of the browser window like you put no thought into it.

And I don't like underlined links. At least in the menu area, anyways. If you have links smack dab in the middle of your content, underlining is good. But not in menus. Also, they should change color if you hover over them. Personally I kinda like it if when you hover over them they change to the same color as the background (so it's like they disappeared), but that doesn't always work.

**pokeplatinum62** · 30th January 2010, 9:59 PM

does anyone know how to use the same menu on every page using html

**An00bis** · 31st January 2010, 12:55 AM

An easy way would be to use SHTML. Essentially you create a layout and break it up into several pieces so be assembled by the SHTML file. This allows you to make changes to say your menu or logo easily without having to edit every single page. Just make sure your server supports Server Side Includes.

**Disgruntled Goat** · 14th February 2010, 11:00 PM

The two most common ways are SHTML as An00bis said and using PHP includes. In PHP you just do:

Code:

<?php include 'menu.html'; ?>

And put your menu in the menu.html file.

If you don't have PHP or SHTML another solution is to use iframes. Have a menu.html like before with just the links, then on each page. Make sure the links use the attribute target="_parent" so they open in the main page, not the iframe.

**Gamer617** · 18th February 2012, 5:38 PM

I like serebii layouts

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