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    Curbing The Crimson Tide!

    On their way to the next town, Ash & Co. enter a town where a legend exists about The Red Inazuma, who is a person that can wear a cloak, talk and use Pokémon Attacks. However soon The Red Inazuma starts attacking innocent Pokémon and must be stopped. Can Ash & Co. stop it and find out what it really is?

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    Looks good. People say its boring, but it seems to be one of those eps where it looks cool, and something REALLY intersting happens. Does anyone get the feeling that the red Inuzama looks like that cloaked thing from the original battle Frontier intro? You know, the thing everyone said was Mewtwo? What if that thing was the Red Inuzama? It looks like it's in the town where this eppy's set. I'm hoping for the Red Inuzama to be a new rival of sorts.
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    just saw the episode pics, squirtle does indeed get PWND. Also, it seems that the red Inazuma himself is a     Spoiler:
    . Im suprised. I cant understand the rest of the plot (though the filler girl looks cute). The battles looked sweet, thoughts?
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    yes...the plot was hard to understand...confusing

    but main problem was why the heck did the writer let May's Squirtle win to a SCIZOR!...

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    Yes, it was interesting, but I still can't get: How Scizor managed to make drawings on Pokemon faces?

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    Woah, hold the phone. What was that song playing during the Scizor vs. Squirtle battle? I've never heard that one before, and it totally caught me off guard. I suspect it was used during one of the original versions of the movies?
    In any case, I do hope they use it more frequently. I quite enjoyed it and it would make a nice change from having them play Battle Frontier or Ready Go.
    And just to note, kudos for playing the Lilycove theme during the pokéblock scene.

    While I'm on the topic of music, this episode had some really strange sound effects going on. Such as the metallic sword slashing when Sceptile used Leaf Blade, or Scizor's swift. Personally, I think the way they're handling them is rather awkward. We have all these different sfx in one episode, then we go 15 or so without hearing them and then they're used once again? I wish they'd just make up their minds for once.

    As for the episode itself, I didn't really enjoy it that much. Sceptile got a decent battle with some great moves, but apart from that and Squirtle having a Hyper Beam rain down on top of it, that was the only decent part.
    I didn't give a Ratata's arse about random filler girl and her plight, nor did I honestly care less about the Red Lighting's endevours. Though I must admit, I was rather surprised that he turned out to be an actual Scizor. Truth be told, I really wasn't expecting that at all ^^;

    Also, the rematch between Squirtle and Scizor was total bullshit.

    And just a quick note...look familliar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravy
    And just a quick note...look familliar?
    Holy shins! o_@

    About the last thing I expected was to see something undeniably from the original Kanto.

    You know, at first I was glad to see that picture, but now I think I'm feeling even more resentment than before towards the writers. This proves without a doubt that they do remember the original Kanto, yet are completely against making any ties with it.

    And uh... are they actually in that house during the episode? Because if they actually went there and there was no trace of the insomniacs I will smash something. 8D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian May
    Yes, it was interesting, but I still can't get: How Scizor managed to make drawings on Pokemon faces?
    Perhaps scizor had jigglypuff stuck up its... um, use your imagination.
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    ZOMG Where'd the Hypno go o,o

    Do think it was a bad thing that it was just a normal Scizor though

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    Eh, sort of. I mean, on one hand it gave us a decent fight, but on the other hand we've seen enough Scizor already. It would have been neat if it had been some guy with a grasp on advanced technology or something. Its not everyday you see a human going head to head with a pokémon afterall.
    I think they wasted a hefty amount of potential and all, but it wasn't outright terrible. So I can't really complain I guess.

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    Gravy, you saying the town it was set in was similar or was the town where that happened (I think the dub name was Hop Hop Hop town, and the name of the name of the city was something like Komodo City, so if the other town's japanese name is similar, you could be right)?
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    I saw the pics.May's squritle defeated that scizor.But i still don't understand,why is that Scizor wearing armor?Or is this what that girl did?
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    doesn't the girl with the chansey that got beaten look familiar as well?

    anyway, I was somewhat dissapointed that uber Squirtle's back again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PDL
    anyway, I was somewhat dissapointed that uber Squirtle's back again.
    yeah Yamato-san is gonna be ****** at that, Squirtle did get it's but kicked, but the goody two shoes writers just couldn't let it go, st least Sceptile got a good battle in, and i had no idea it could cling to glass like that. Sheesh the fight was reminding me of spiderman almost.

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    Pretty tough plot to get around really...some scenes were pretty good, mind you.

    All the writers have to do now is explain Squirtle's purpose, because beating a Scizor...that's just stupid. If it exists just to humour other fans...that's also just stupid. I was willing to let the past Squirtle vs. Ariados mishap slide until this happened.

    But hey, at least they're using past scenery. Whether that be for reference or just laziness, it was a good idea.

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    Squirtle beating Scizor? Hasn't that writer been sacked yet? But Scizor looks fantastic with that shiny body, and that made it so much cooler to look at. Sceptile looks amazing, but another appearance of Chansey and Phanpy, and the writing scribbles thing bothers me. But Poliwag and Gulpin reappear, in a rather sexy fashion. And may I point out that this is the second episode recently which has greatly cheapened Heracross!
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    Thats the last straw. Beating Harley, I can care less because I don't care for him. But taking down one of the best pokemon is a disgrace to mankind. Why couldn't Sceptile win and Squirtle take a beating that it deserves?!

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    Hello Yamato - chan ... Haruka´s Squirtle rules!!!

    The little turtle showing it´s awesome contest abilities in a battle was pretty cool, I hope it get to know Satoshi´s Squirtle soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirtle_007
    Hello Yamato - chan ... Haruka´s Squirtle rules!!!
    I don't know what's more detestable. Squirtle or you.
    The little turtle showing it´s awesome contest abilities in a battle was pretty cool, I hope it get to know Satoshi´s Squirtle soon
    More like show the fact it's the uber of the ubers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirtle_007
    Hello Yamato - chan ... Haruka´s Squirtle rules!!!
    [shrugs] Meh. Here's hoping you end banned for user-bashing and/or enciting flame wars real soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gravy
    Woah, hold the phone. What was that song playing during the Scizor vs. Squirtle battle? I've never heard that one before, and it totally caught me off guard. I suspect it was used during one of the original versions of the movies?
    That song was listed in the ending credits. It's titled "Watashi, Makenai! ~Haruka no Teema~" (I, won't lose! ~Haruka's Theme~).

    Quote Originally Posted by Gravy
    As for the episode itself, I didn't really enjoy it that much. Sceptile got a decent battle with some great moves, but apart from that and Squirtle having a Hyper Beam rain down on top of it, that was the only decent part.
    I didn't give a Ratata's arse about random filler girl and her plight, nor did I honestly care less about the Red Lighting's endevours. Though I must admit, I was rather surprised that he turned out to be an actual Scizor. Truth be told, I really wasn't expecting that at all ^^;

    Also, the rematch between Squirtle and Scizor was total bullshit.
    Agreed, on all counts. Zenigame finally got the loss it deserved after all of its over-glorification by the writers earlier on. Why the hell did they feel the need to redeem it? The episode should've just ended on Hassamu losing to Jukain (which, as nice of a battle as it was, was already pretty screwed up enough with Jukain riding on the wind as it did. And what was the deal with Hassamu using Hyper Beam on a window that Jukain jumped off of, only for it to result in a dust cloud like when it hit a brick wall earlier in the episode. Just a little glass shattering would've added for some nice realism there. For that matter, as rich as she may be, does Luna have any consideration for collateral damage?).

    Although, there were a couple other things I enjoyed about the episode that Gravy didn't mention, like the fact that Satoshi-tachi were ordering around Rocket Dan to follow in their balloon (and they got blown away immediately afterwards, keeping their role to a nice minimum), and of course, the new opening had me f***in' psyched. Hassamu was also pretty cool and nicely shadey when he was disguised as the Red Lightning. Overall, this episode started off on a very good note, but turned to utter crap at the end (as I said in the speculation thread for next week's episode, this is further worsened by the fact that Glory Day's still the ending, and Zenigame's doing an appeal in the preview). Well, at least now I can happily say the turtle has a loss under its belt.... a loss that actually involved KOing and not running to mommy after one hit.

    Speaking of screwed-up things in this episode, why did Takeshi say that Hassamu shouldn't be able to fly? Pretty much every Hassamu that's appeared in the anime thus far has been able to fly. The wings aren't for decoration (even though the games and such make it seem that way). Luna replies to Takeshi by commenting that her Hassamu's special, but it appears that it was just riding the gusts of wind (which was also screwed up, as I said before).

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    The return of the Unfailing Squirtle Bias. Figured as much.

    Face it guys, it was a good fight. Squirtle got its behind kicked at first, which is how it should be, but when it battled Scizor without its tech, under the traditional conduction of a rookie trainer, a win really isn't that ridiculous. The girl just wanted someone to play/battle with, as far as I could figure out, and was clearly an inexperienced trainer, relying on Hyper Beam and Swift as its only attacks. So pitting her against an experienced coordinator who knows how to think on her feet in battle, what's so hard to accept about Squirtle winning?

    May's strategy was simple, but effective. When Scizor dodged the Water Gun and it made a puddle, she noticed this and had Squirtle use Ice Beam. Scizor dodged too, but the Ice Beam froze the ground, effectively killing the speed advantage since Scizor couldn't get its footing. Then Squirtle slid along the ice in a Rapid Spin, powering it up with the extra speed, and won.

    I really don't think there's anything to complain about here, once you look at everything.
    You said it yourself: Hyper Beam and Swift. They're projectile attacks, and they're shot from Hassamu's claws. Seriously, as Zenigame was Rapid Spinning towards Hassamu while it was on its back, I was desperately hoping Hassamu would just lift one of its arms and blast that damned turtle to high hell again as it was approaching.

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    She could've learned from a Combusken Fire Spin instead, eh! Who's with me men!?
    F*** yeah! I'm surprised they haven't shown more of that thing, considering A) it's Haruka's starter, and B) it recently learned a new attack in the form of Mega Kick, which it only showed off in one battle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamato-san
    You said it yourself: Hyper Beam and Swift. They're projectile attacks, and they're shot from Hassamu's claws. Seriously, as Zenigame was Rapid Spinning towards Hassamu while it was on its back, I was desperately hoping Hassamu would just lift one of its arms and blast that damned turtle to high hell again as it was approaching.
    Again, rookie trainer. It probably never occurred to Luna that Scizor could do that.

    I agree on the hilarity of Ash & co climbing in TR's balloon and making them follow Scizor. There's a first.
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    No, but she certainly relied on Hyper Beam enough that you'd think she'd use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamato-san
    That song was listed in the ending credits. It's titled "Watashi, Makenai! ~Haruka no Teema~" (I, won't lose! ~Haruka's Theme~).
    Ahh, so its an original piece of music then? Very interesting indeed. I hope they decide to make more pieces like this in the future, instead of just relying on the opening/ending lyrics from time to time. It was a really nice touch.

    Incidentaly Yamato, was there any indication as to who the singer was? I was listening to that particular scene earlier this morning, and it sounds somewhat like Kaori's voice. Would be awesome if it was her, as I've wanted to hear her singing voice for quite some time now.

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    Why this pokemon is automatic
    It's systematic
    It's hydromatic
    Why it's RED lightning

    Cool they kept the name
    wow this place really dropped off in activity huh.

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    I think the animators are getting May's Squirtle mixed up with Ash's.

    May's Squirtle is supossed to look like an infant, in that pic it looks just like Ash's Squirtle. :/

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