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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaiash
    Imagine if Ho-oh had shown up in the memory thingy (Did it?) and Ash said "I told you" to Oak.
    Very funny...-_-; But he saw it far from the ground so it's hard to see the full body of Ho-oh...

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    Well, the voices absolutely sucked, but what do I think about the plot of the special? It was actually pretty bad, but if the voices had been kept than it would have been okay, I guess.

    Looks like Max and May (and Brock kinda) were all over the special. I still don't understand the point of Misty being there. Her voice was the closest imitation, I think, so maybe they thought it would make them look better. O_o

    Dr. Yung being the Mirage Master or whatever was actually pretty surprising to me. I guess there had to be something interesting about this special.

    Mewtwo owning everyone with ten attacks at a time was mildly interesting. But its monster-like growls were terrible compared to the human-like voice the normal one has. Well, it could have something to do with it being a mirage Pokemon with crazy power, or something.

    This special wasn't that big of a deal, overall. 7/10.

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    This episode gets a 1/10, only because they tried.

    Animation : Pretty average except for the ending with Mewtwo. Other than that, there were some VERY choppy parts, like when Ash/May were being carried off by the Mirage-mon, or when the things were exploding. 3/10

    Plot : One word : PLOTHOLES. This episode was riddled with them. And everything was SO cliche. 2/10

    Voice Acting : It SUCKED WIND. No enthsiasm or emotion in the voices. May sounds like shes forty. Ash and Brock sound like they have a lung disease. Oak sounds like he breathed in some helium. The only ones that stood up to the test were Misty and Pikachu. I also miss the old voice of Mew from Mewtwo Strikes back. The one in this episode sounds like it's choking on a rock. -5/10

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    ....The Japanese made it....>_>
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    May *always* does things right
    WOOOOOOOOWWWWW. I echo the sentiment a few posts down from this: Mary-Sue. Thanks for giving me a reason to dislike May even more.

    I'll look forward to the bios and episode pics, Serebii. For now, I'm done with this rubbish since I'm feeling a bit outcast because I loved the special minus the voices. Just drop me a PM or something when you've got the bios and pics ready, 'kay Joe?

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    Ha, I haven't read over all the comments but I'm starting to think I'm the only one who really enjoyed this special.

    For one we got some nice character interaction, no one was really standing around being useless, (like Brock standing in the background while Ash did his thing, like has often been the case, you know) they paid attention to all of the characters so I didn't feel like anyone got ditched, really. Besides Max anyway. I really liked the fact that they followed up on Brock talking to Jenny rather than just having him show up at the end with her and her crew of cops. May got a nice scene of bravery rather than just casting her off to the side like I was very concerned about them doing. Everything flowed together really nicely and there wasn't a single area of the plot I felt they abandoned like is the case with a few episodes I've seen.

    Everyone played a nice part in it and I loved how involved the human characters were. Sometimes they just focus on the Pokemon too much for my tastes and the characters become so monotonous in some episodes. Everyone seemed dynamic to me in this episode which I loved.

    I felt there was a nice conclusion at the end. I felt satisfied, like the episode was complete, I didn't feel like their should have been more to it. Their was an opening for a sequel but it wasn't like, "Why are they ending it there?!"

    I loved the May and Misty interaction and the fact that May saved her. Someone said something about Ash not showing enough concern about Misty but that never happens unless it's Pikachu. Look at the Eighth movie for evidence of this.     Spoiler:


    Uh...original? Yeah, like having Ash going around for nine freakin' seasons collecting badges/symbols, meeting many random characters with dilemmas is original. Come one, guys, you're being way too harsh with this point about it not being original enough.

    And also considering that this was supposedly created by American's (though check the credits, there are a whole lot of Japanese people listed) everyone was kept in character. I was very surprised about that.

    Actually I'm sad to say this special kept my interest better than any episode has as of recently. I didn't fast foward through any of it. I'm hoping for a follow up.

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    Ahh... this special was decent enough, but May with Squirtle was a bit of a surprise for me, mainly because I haven't seen the dub in a while now (because of my job, I missed the Hoenn League and everything afterwards).

    I can't believe that Ash forgot about Misty when she fell. What kind of friend are you?! The clips from the movies were a nice addition, though. But this was surprisingly violent for Pokémon, especially the Mirage Mewtwo. Also, and someone else said this in another thread, Mewtwo sounded like Ganondorf in SSBM when he did his war cry. Mew's "death," that was sad. Digimon galore, though. Dr. Yung being the Mirage Master, I saw that coming. And it was nice to hear some silent scenes. Had it been 4Kids, it would be low quality MIDIs throughout the episode.

    I won't comment on the voiced here, though. But I agree with what the majority of the people said here.

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    Ha, I haven't read over all the comments but I'm starting to think I'm the only one who really enjoyed this special.
    You are not alone.........this special held my interest a lot more than say, the Grand Festival or the Hoenn League.......Glalie and Clark (that random guy with the Quilava and Charizard) were the only things I liked about said League......(EDIT) Okay, Kaede too. But still.

    I think Yung was a great villain, too. He certainly was one of the more wicked characters we've seen in a long time (don't say Harley....he's only evil to people he doesn't like, and has no dreams of ruling the world like Yung did)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Pokémon Trainer
    I can't believe that Ash forgot about Misty when she fell. What kind of friend are you?!
    Pokemon has never been great when it goes to characters showing concern for other characters. Ash always freaks out when it comes to Pikachu, May freaks when it comes to Max... But most of the time other's are forgotten. It's one of my major annoyances with Pokemon, the lack of concern that the human characters have for their human friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great Butler
    You are not alone.........this special held my interest a lot more than say, the Grand Festival or the Hoenn League.......Glalie and Clark (that random guy with the Quilava and Charizard) were the only things I liked about said League......

    I think Yung was a great villain, too. He certainly was one of the more wicked characters we've seen in a long time (don't say Harley....he's only evil to people he doesn't like, and has no dreams of ruling the world like Yung did)
    Glad to hear it. I was starting to think I was the only one. And I agree completely about Yung. Harley isn't evil, he's just misunderstood. There aren't many really evil human characters on Pokemon so it was nice to see one who was twisted and didn't learn his lesson in the end.
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    i dont know why everyone hated mews voice?? it was veerryy cute!!

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    I really liked the special and heck I didn't think the voices were that bad..they need work but I'm sure they will be fine in time.

    It was sad when mew was deleted so to say :P


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    You sure Dr. Yung commited suicide? For all we know, he could have used underground stairs that were under his lab and used that to escape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu
    You sure Dr. Yung commited suicide? For all we know, he could have used underground stairs that were under his lab and used that to escape.
    True, true, but still.......this was a guy insane enough to waste his life developing a system to create Pokémon out of thin air, then insane enough to turn his nose up at a Mew even if it did result from some malfunction in his system. It wouldn't be wholly out of his character for him to have just jumped into the fire, and that look in his eyes right before he turned and went back in.....creepy. Those eyes had the look of a man on the brink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great Butler
    True, true, but still.......this was a guy insane enough to waste his life developing a system to create Pokémon out of thin air, then insane enough to turn his nose up at a Mew even if it did result from some malfunction in his system. It wouldn't be wholly out of his character for him to have just jumped into the fire, and that look in his eyes right before he turned and went back in.....creepy. Those eyes had the look of a man on the brink.
    But he said something about wanting to try to fix up the mirage system. I don't think he was intending on dying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamex
    But he said something about wanting to try to fix up the mirage system. I don't think he was intending on dying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamex
    But he said something about wanting to try to fix up the mirage system. I don't think he was intending on dying.
    I got the feeling he was just shooting his mouth off at that point, and thus didn't take it literally. Maybe he was so insane at that point he simply decided he didn't care anymore and went in with the notion of fixing the system on his tongue, but deep down really intending to finish himself off before the cops got him.

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    The special was interesting. I will not comment on the voices. It's good to see the narrator guy from the past come back. Max's voice sounded the same.

    I just wonder if that one comment James made had any meaning.

    "At least we're consistant." Hmmm....

    Possible Goof: When Misty saw Mew right away, she recognized it. But how could she have recognized it when in the first movie, they don't remember anything that happened with Mew and Mewtwo? Oh well.

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    First of all let me say this. If it wasn't for this site I would be wondering how did Pikachu learn Volt Tackle?But then again all of us on here knows the answer to that but you get the point. Second What was the deal with Brock's VA? It did not even sound closer than Jessie or Max's. Third, this one must have taken place after the 8th movie so why didn't we get to see a Lucario Mirage? Obvisouly this special probably takes place at some point after the Battle Frontier or in the middle between Battle Pike and Battle Palace. The Mirage Master does look familiar *cough*latest episodes of Yugioh *cough*. Lastly the story was mediocre but entertainable but it was the voice actors who ruined it for me.
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    The plot was good but the voices, horrible, completly horrible! Plus, Squritle's arms were like shrunken. I got ****** off that Brock did nothing but talk and flirt with Jenny & Joy. No Pokemon for him and Ash, May, & Misty only showed two pokemon. Oh well, I liked it except for those horrible 'sound-alike" voices sound-alike, bull****!
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    was it good?
    i was busy...

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    I beleive this special was suppost to take place after pikachu learned volt tackle, also max and may seemed to know mew, which also suggests it takes place after the next movie.




    "Oh well, I liked it except for those horrible 'sound-alike" voices sound-alike, bull****!"


    they sounded like sound alikes to me..what did you expect them to sound EXACTLY like the old voices?


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    Whether he died or not is irrelevant in the long run. The fact of the matter is that we will never see him again, anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max
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    O RLY?

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    This whole special was funny, mostly because of Ash's new voice.

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    Oh dear, what to say about this special that hasn't been already said..............staryu!! Hooray for it returning.

    My thoughts:
    Well I had the same idea for a special for this before it was even announced. (I'm psychic) However they handled it very poorly. Loopholes were plentiful. (How does anyone beside TR, Ash, Misty, Giovanni and Brock know about Mewtwo anyway) Well only 5 legendaries were shown not including flashbacks which sucked out loud. I wanted to hurt Ash the entire time. He showed no care for Misty, lost all battling skills, and pushed Pikachu too hard when he had 4 other pokemon ready for battle. I loved Max and Brock's roles....absolutely nothing. Basically what they have been doing all of AG. We need a new group next region...I can't stand these voices. Good to see Oak get spotlight and get some Misty-May interaction. The Mirage Master was Dr. Yung.....how original. Mew was cute.
    Anyways this gets a 3/10 from me....worse than most fillers.

    PS: NO BAYLEEF!!! I was waiting for it the entire time and it was halfway over with until I realized it wasn't gonna show.
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