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    Default Sweeping Guide (a guide on pokemon attacks)

    This is question most do when planning a sweeper. I have the answer.

    1st:ATTACK POWER. With attacking moves you want damage right? So, attack power is obviously a factor.

    2nd:ACCURRACY. You want to HIT with power, so accurracy counts too.

    3rd:CRITICAL HIT RATIO. For most moves it's 1/16(6.25%), but for some it's 6/16(37.5).

    4th:ADDED EFFECTS. You know: paralysis, flinch, etc.

    5th:STAB. self explainig.

    Then you do this formula to measure all these factors in a single one.
    This will find the average damage given by the attacks:

    AD=(((AP*STAB)*acc.)*CHR)/16

    AP=attack power
    STAB=same type attack bonus(if applied 1.5 if not 1)
    acc.=accurracy in decimals(example:0.70 for thunder)
    CHR=critical hit ratio(17 if standard, 22 if high)

    EXAMPLE:

    Let's do this with the popular physical attacking move earthquake being used by Tyranitar=

    AD=(((100*1)*1.00)*17)/16
    AD=((100*1.00)*17)/16
    AD=(100*17)/16
    AD=1700/16
    AD=106.25

    Got to a number, 106

    And what if this same Tyranitar used Rock Slide?

    AD=(((75*1.5)*0.90)*17)/16
    AD=((112.5*0.90)*17)/16
    AD=(101.25*17)/16
    AD=1721.25/16
    AD=~107.58

    So, this Tyranitar would be better using Rock Slide than Earthquake because of STAB.

    You ask: and the added effects?
    Then it becomes like this

    Earthquake=106.25
    Rock Slide=~107.58+1/3 flinch, meaning it has a 1/3 chance of flinching the foe

    And here I have listed the average damage of some of the most used attacks nowadays separated by type:

    BUG

    Megahorn=108.38
    Signal Beam=79.69+1/10 confusion
    Silver Wind=63.75+1/10 raising all stats

    DARK

    Bite=63.75+1/3 flinch
    Crunch=85+1/10 lowering SD
    Faint Attack=63.75+ never misses

    DRAGON

    Dragon Claw=85
    Dragonbreath=63.75+1/3 paralyze

    ELECTRIC

    Thunder=89.25+1/3 paralyze (yeah, better than dragon claw and crunch)
    Thunderbolt=100.94+1/10 paralyze
    Thunderpunch=79.69+1/10 paralyze

    FIGHTING

    Brick Break=79.69+ breaks reflect
    Cross Chop=110 (!!!)
    Sky Uppercut=76.5

    FIRE

    Blaze Kick=105.19+1/10 burn (!!!)
    Fire Blast=108.38+1/10 burn
    Flamethrower=100.94+1/10 burn
    Overheat=148.75+ SA harshly fells +1/10 burn
    Fire punch=79.69+1/10 burn

    FLYING

    Aeroblast=130.63 (!!!!!!)
    Drill Peck=85
    Aerial Ace=63.75+ never misses

    GHOST

    Shadow Ball=85+1/5 lowering SD

    GRASS

    Leaf Blade=96.25
    Giga Drain=63.75+ absorbs half the damage inflicted
    Solarbeam=127.5

    GROUND

    Earthquake=106.25

    ICE

    Blizzard=89.25+1/10 freeze
    Ice Beam=100.94+1/10 freeze
    Ice Punch=79.69+1/10 freeze

    NORMAL

    Double-Edge=127.5
    Return=108.38

    POISON

    Sludge Bomb=95.63+1/10 poison

    ROCK

    Rock Slide=71.79+1/3 flinch
    Ancientpower=63.75+ raising all stats

    PSYCHIC

    Psychic=95.63+1/10 lowering SD

    STEEL

    Metal Claw=50.47+1/10 raising ATK
    Meteor Mash=90.31+1/5 raising ATK (better than thunder and blizzard)
    Steel Wing=66.94
    Iron Tail=79.69+1/3 lowering DEF (better than both metal claw and steel wing)

    WATER

    Surf=100.94
    Hydro Pump=102 (really interesting, lol)

    HIDDEN POWER=74.38(better than many other moves)

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    A good guide, but I am not sure how many people will actually use it. Its not like you know your opponents HP, and I don't thik you would remember all of this in battle. I think you forgot super effectiveness, etc.
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    this shows wich moves are better than others bar super effectiveness

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    dont believe this will die

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    Maybe this should a sticky in the R/S/E section i skipped through all the moves,Btw,is ur guide only for sweepers?
    Dont double post,if u look at this very sentence,look at the post above,Ull c an edit button

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    I think I saw something similar before around here on the forums. You forgot about PP as well. Things like Giga Drain are restricted by the amount of PP they have.
    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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