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    It's a simple thing called making it more interesting to your viewers. Bringing back the Hokages is far more cool than those two elders explaining stuff.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HoennMaster View Post
    It's a simple thing called making it more interesting to your viewers. Bringing back the Hokages is far more cool than those two elders explaining stuff.
    I too would like to see more about the Hokages, but I don't believe bringing them back was the only way to do it. Plus it loses the impact when they're some of the only people that hadn't been revived yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoennMaster View Post
    It's a simple thing called making it more interesting to your viewers. Bringing back the Hokages is far more cool than those two elders explaining stuff.
    I mean, the elders could have explained the whole incident through flashbacks. That would have been interesting and would have involved the Third Hokage anyway, without needing to pull him out of the grave (or out of a Shinigami, same difference... bottom line is he's "passed on").

    How would you feel if Jiraiya came back? He was given a satisfying and complete (albeit sad) exit from the story. Bringing characters back (even if they had a sudden or surprising demise) kind of disrespects the things they've done and the meaning of their death in the first place, in my opinion.

    Although, I guess there's a fine line between whether it helps the story or not. For example, I guess it helped the overall plot to bring Madara back... so I'm a bit conflicted on that one. But bringing back 90% of the dead characters was much for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamex View Post
    I mean, the elders could have explained the whole incident through flashbacks. That would have been interesting and would have involved the Third Hokage anyway, without needing to pull him out of the grave (or out of a Shinigami, same difference... bottom line is he's "passed on").

    How would you feel if Jiraiya came back? He was given a satisfying and complete (albeit sad) exit from the story. Bringing characters back (even if they had a sudden or surprising demise) kind of disrespects the things they've done and the meaning of their death in the first place, in my opinion.

    Although, I guess there's a fine line between whether it helps the story or not. For example, I guess it helped the overall plot to bring Madara back... so I'm a bit conflicted on that one. But bringing back 90% of the dead characters was much for me.
    It is to make the fourth shinobi world war more exciting, lets face it, those zetsus weren't all that strong to beat. They needed stronger opponents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7 tyranitars View Post
    It is to make the fourth shinobi world war more exciting, lets face it, those zetsus weren't all that strong to beat. They needed stronger opponents.
    Lol, so they couldn't spend then chapters before the war having Tobi and what was left of the Akatsuki recruit new villain ninjas around the world that were actually alive? Surely every village has there own versions of Orochimaru who is trying to takeover and or destroy they're village from time to time. Why couldn't Kishi make up new villains for this war? The Edo Tensei zombies IMO were the worst aspect of this war, or at least one of them. It felt like lazy writing bringing dead warriors back to life to fight a war which should have introduced new villains for Naruto and friends to overcome. All these dead guys with legendary statuses pretty much just told the alliance how to beat them anyway unless Kabutomaru took control of them. We had some good fights in it, I will admit that, but it still felt like lazy writing and Edo Tensei became as cheap as the Sharingan. None of the Edo Tensei zombies were even that strong, nobody of importance died until Madara and Obito got their monster out. This Shinobi war has been anything but exciting to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciccone View Post
    Um, how would the elders know everything that happened since the founding of Konoha? They were just kids during the days that Hashirama and Tobirama were alive and at their peak. I highly doubt that they knew the things that Tobirama was talking about in this week's chapter, or the things that Hashirama will be talking about in the next chapter.
    The Elders grew up alongside Sarutobi and was trained by both Hokages. They then went on to become part of the ruling force in Konoha, and directly contributed to the breakdown between Konoha and the Uchiha clan. They should know everything we're being told.
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    I'm really happy they brought back the 4 hokages. It'll make the war soooooooooooo much more interesting. It'd be cool if Naruto ad to fight his own father like Gaara did.

    And I think it's BS that Neji died. I feel he was a very interesting and important character. I like his death lines though, "Because I was called a genuis!"

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    Well someone had to be killed off. Should have been Lee but whatevs.

    I doubt Naruto would fight Minato since Orochimaru already said he has no interest in the war.


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    I think it should've been Tenten.......or Kiba. Kiba's a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoennMaster View Post
    It's a simple thing called making it more interesting to your viewers. Bringing back the Hokages is far more cool than those two elders explaining stuff.
    Interesting is one thing, using quite possibly the cheapest scape goat in manga history to simply revive anyone and everyone who mattered is another. But to set the record straight, I'm fine with THIS edo tensei, they aren't battling and I don't think they'll join the war like everyone seems to think(since orochimaru straight up said he wouldn't join it)

    Quote Originally Posted by 7 tyranitars View Post
    It is to make the fourth shinobi world war more exciting, lets face it, those zetsus weren't all that strong to beat. They needed stronger opponents.
    Its worth noting, that if we're talking about how the war COULD have gone, it wouldn't have been hard to write zetsu as being a hell of lot stronger. And personally I would have given him one main body, which would make for a more interesting character, something we still, after all these chapters, haven't seen much of in him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wadder2 View Post
    I think it should've been Tenten.......or Kiba. Kiba's a dick.
    I don't really care for any of them, so none of their deaths would've bothered me. At least Neji's death allowed him to become free of his clan's "curse."

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    can someone clarify this for me.....i thought akatsuki needed to seal the beasts in order....but didn't they seal five and seven before the timeskip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KantoLegends View Post
    can someone clarify this for me.....i thought akatsuki needed to seal the beasts in order....but didn't they seal five and seven before the timeskip?
    And the three-tails was sealed before the two-tails in the manga. There wasn't really a specific sealing order; the nine-tailed fox just needed to be sealed last.

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    I saw a post on a forum a few months ago that talked about that and I didn't even realize just how out of order the beasts have been sealed.

    So it's Monday night and we have no new details at all yet? I'm getting too anxious here.

    Question about last week's chapter though....first off....on the first page Orochimaru's face looks partly like Zetsu's but not on the second page...was this just an drawing error. Also...what happened to the remaining two Zetsu clones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoennMaster View Post
    I saw a post on a forum a few months ago that talked about that and I didn't even realize just how out of order the beasts have been sealed.

    So it's Monday night and we have no new details at all yet? I'm getting too anxious here.

    Question about last week's chapter though....first off....on the first page Orochimaru's face looks partly like Zetsu's but not on the second page...was this just an drawing error. Also...what happened to the remaining two Zetsu clones?
    They were killed. I belive (it) (hehe) by Suigetsu and Juugo. They were told to and I quote "take care of them."

    Here is the part where they were assumedly killed.
    http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/618/15

    but then again he might have just body jumped in to one
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    I guess I don't pay attention that well lol. I just thought they restrained them and I forgot that Orochimaru transferred over to Zetsu's body.


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    Well this is intriguing....


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    Madara vs Hashiram flashback FTW. Looks like we'll be getting two chapters of it, given that's the last page.
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    I was less than impressed by this week's chapter. Most of the dialogue was boring and it wasn't until the end that we finally got to see something interesting. But I'm actually glad that Kishi is showing Hashirama vs. Madara; one of the video games showed a clip of that battle, but it was lame 'cause it was the programmers' interpretation of what happened.

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