Naruto: Post Timeskip Disscussion (Warning Intense Spoilers!)

[Shadow Lucario]

I highly doubt its Obito. Tobi should be a brand new character when uncovered. Less *** pull on Kishi's part then.

Again, if it was a brand new character there would be no point in teasing his face for so long. Kishi isn't that much of a troll.

[Wrave]

There is no point in it being another character. You don't build a character like this so much and then it be someone know one knows. It is more than likely you know who or Sasuke from the future. Or Madara from the past. It is someone we have heard of but forgot about.

I do like Kishi teasing us. Every time he is going to reveal himself, something happens. NARUTO JUST BREAK THAT DAMN MASK!!!!

[lolipiece]

Oh please. At this point, it doesn't matter who Tobi is.

All this buildup. There's no way Kishi can pull off a proper reveal.

Also, quit wasting my time. Show the damn beast and get on with it.

[Wrave]

Well he did spend 400 + Chapters teasing that Minato was Naruto's dad after numerous times so yeah.

[arceus03]

I like how Hachibi said Naruto and Kurama are best buddies. lol.

And... That's all. Pretty nice chapter. Looking forward for the fight next week. Just hope it doesn't suddenly switch to Orochimaru and Sasuke.

Just watch, everyone is expecting Obito and it turns out to be Rin.

This totally needs to happen now. lol.

[Ciccone]

There is no point in it being another character. You don't build a character like this so much and then it be someone know one knows. It is more than likely you know who or Sasuke from the future. Or Madara from the past. It is someone we have heard of but forgot about.

I do like Kishi teasing us. Every time he is going to reveal himself, something happens. NARUTO JUST BREAK THAT DAMN MASK!!!!

I gotta say, I am totally against the future Sasuke theory. I think it's just ridiculous, even for this manga. I don't want Kishi to introduce time travel. The past Madara theory actually sounds plausible because Edo Madara seemed to know about the Infinite Tsukuyomi, which Tobi wants to use.

[arceus03]

I doubt it's a character like Sasuke or Madara, since Guy would be very familiar with both... Tobi did say that Guy's not the kind to remember faces, so it's probably someone we've seen once or twice and never expanded upon after that.

[TsukiMirage]

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What's that sound? Is that whole "Tobi is Obito" theory going back to life?

It sure does sound like it. What can I say; Kishi seems to be really predictable...

Fortunately there's plenty of pieces of evidence ensuring that theory remains a far off dream.

Again, if it was a brand new character there would be no point in teasing his face for so long. Kishi isn't that much of a troll.

How long did he troll us with Naruto's parentage?

[Ciccone]

Fortunately there's plenty of pieces of evidence ensuring that theory remains a far off dream.

Aside from some age discrepancies and the issue of how Obito could've grown to be a challenge for Minato, both of which can be explained if you factor in Zetsu and Madara, I don't think there's any evidence that would disprove the theory. And of course, I'm choosing to overlook the fact that Obito was crushed by a boulder simply because Kishi is the most inconsistent and fickle mangaka I've ever seen when it comes to death.

[Heartlessangel17]

Well we know that Tobi is obviously someone from the leaf village who knows Kakashi and Guy, how else would he know about Kakashi's past, and Guy's bad remembering of the faces? (Sorry, horrible grammar there) Now I'm not saying it's Obito, but the leaf definitely has another traitor in its mits. I think it would be an interesting twist if it was Obito, but until Tobi's mask comes off, my theory's are sealed.

How long did he troll us with Naruto's parentage?

Please, there was no trolling there. The second we saw even a glimpse of Minato's hair, it was obvious they were son and father. And besides, Tobi being a new character is on a whole different level than that.

[TsukiMirage]

Aside from some age discrepancies and the issue of how Obito could've grown to be a challenge for Minato, both of which can be explained if you factor in Zetsu and Madara, I don't think there's any evidence that would disprove the theory. And of course, I'm choosing to overlook the fact that Obito was crushed by a boulder simply because Kishi is the most inconsistent and fickle mangaka I've ever seen when it comes to death.

Don't forget though, Madara and Tobi were working together well before the Second War, where he gave Nagato Madara's Rinnegan after his death. He had also been working with Kisame around that time, who knew what his unmasked face looked like and recognized him. And Tobi gave Yahiko the idea for Akatsuki between the Second and Third War. Tobi also mentioned that he had been waiting a long time for events to align so that he could release the Kyuubi. It would take quite a bit of maneuvering to make Tobi into Obito.

In addition, the whole idea that Tobi has to be Obito because he knows about Kamui and has a similar technique doesn't work, since Tobi has shown a bunch of knowledge over the various MS techniques and Obito wouldn't even have known about possessing Kamui or be able to use it with his eye being damaged.

Well we know that Tobi is obviously someone from the leaf village who knows Kakashi and Guy, how else would he know about Kakashi's past, and Guy's bad remembering of the faces? (Sorry, horrible grammar there) Now I'm not saying it's Obito, but the leaf definitely has another traitor in its mits. I think it would be an interesting twist if it was Obito, but until Tobi's mask comes off, my theory's are sealed.

Not really. As he showed during the Kyuubi inident, he had been spying on the village for some time, in order to learn when Kushina was about to give birth and Minato's Hiraishin. With Zetsu as a partner, he could have watched them all without them knowing.

Please, there was no trolling there. The second we saw even a glimpse of Minato's hair, it was obvious they were son and father. And besides, Tobi being a new character is on a whole different level than that.

But despite that, Kishi didn't reveal it until more then 400 chapters later. He did the same with Deva Path and Nagato, hiding and only revealing a little of there faces despite them being new characters.

[arceus03]

And of course, I'm choosing to overlook the fact that Obito was crushed by a boulder simply because Kishi is the most inconsistent and fickle mangaka I've ever seen when it comes to death.

Kubo is more inconsistent. At least so far, Jiraiya stays dead.

Well we know that Tobi is obviously someone from the leaf village who knows Kakashi and Guy, how else would he know about Kakashi's past, and Guy's bad remembering of the faces?

It's actually Hayate, the guy who was killed by the Sand kunoichi back in the Chuunin exams. :P

[Platinum fan.]

Kubo is more inconsistent. At least so far, Jiraiya stays dead.



It's actually Hayate, the guy who was killed by the Sand kunoichi back in the Chuunin exams. :P

I was actually thinking it was Hayate's girlfriend who is pissed off at Konoha for letting themselves become allies with sand who killed Hayate so she becomes Tobi, learns some history/time traveling jutsu to go back in time and use the Kyuubi to destroy the village and take some random Uchiha's eyes. All of this war stuff is just a ruse so she can kill Baki and not get blamed for it, instead of using her time travel to simply save Hayate which Kakashi will berate her for.

Since my future Sasuke theory is actually becoming somewhat popular on this thread...eww. This is my new Tobi theory.

[Ciccone]

Kubo is more inconsistent. At least so far, Jiraiya stays dead.

Kishi crosses the line between life and death way too often. Which is why I think there's a huge chance that Tobi is someone who previously died. Probably Obito or Izuna imo.

[-Raiga-]

Again, if it was a brand new character there would be no point in teasing his face for so long. Kishi isn't that much of a troll.

There is no point in it being another character. You don't build a character like this so much and then it be someone know one knows.

Actually, it MORE then likely will be someone new who isn't known to the masses.

So far, Tobi's ENTIRE character is built around him not wanting to be anybody, and what better way to drive that point home, then for him to just be an above average ninja. And honestly, I think this will be the case.(someone from anbu black ops I'm sure)

Anyways, GREAT chapter for once. Plain and simple, I love tobi, and I sure as hell don't like current sasuke or orochimaru.

[arceus03]

I was actually thinking it was Hayate's girlfriend who is pissed off at Konoha for letting themselves become allies with sand who killed Hayate so she becomes Tobi, learns some history/time traveling jutsu to go back in time and use the Kyuubi to destroy the village and take some random Uchiha's eyes. All of this war stuff is just a ruse so she can kill Baki and not get blamed for it, instead of using her time travel to simply save Hayate which Kakashi will berate her for.

Since my future Sasuke theory is actually becoming somewhat popular on this thread...eww. This is my new Tobi theory.

Sounds legit.

Kishi crosses the line between life and death way too often. Which is why I think there's a huge chance that Tobi is someone who previously died. Probably Obito or Izuna imo.

Wasn't the Pain Arc the only time he actually revived dead characters? I mean... I'm not counting Edo Tensei since it's not really coming back to life; it's more like your soul being summoned to do some bad job your summoner wants you to.

Does Guy know Obito/Izuna though? I'm rather leaning towards the moment where Tobi said Guy doesn't remember faces to, like, give a hint that Guy actually knows him from somewhere and he just forgets. Oooh, a future Ten Ten. lol. Taking her revenge for not being given much screentime

[Ciccone]

Wasn't the Pain Arc the only time he actually revived dead characters? I mean... I'm not counting Edo Tensei since it's not really coming back to life; it's more like your soul being summoned to do some bad job your summoner wants you to.

Well Kishi revived Gaara during the Rescue Gaara arc. Madara is another prime example of someone who was dead but managed to come back to life entirely after escaping the Edo Tensei. And ironically enough, it's been heavily hinted that he worked with Tobi at some point in time.

[Profesco]

They are really teasing the Tobi identity aren't they with his comments towards Kakashi. At this point it might as well be you-know-who as it could be anyone.

I also think Tobi is really Lord Voldemort.

[lolipiece]

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NEJI, HINATA, INO, what did they do to you!? Especially, Hinata....

God, this movie is stupid....

[arceus03]

Well Kishi revived Gaara during the Rescue Gaara arc. Madara is another prime example of someone who was dead but managed to come back to life entirely after escaping the Edo Tensei. And ironically enough, it's been heavily hinted that he worked with Tobi at some point in time.

Oh yeah, I forgot all about Gaara.

Madara... just got so broken. So he's basically immortal now, since he released the Edo Tensei on himself, right?

I also think Tobi is really Lord Voldemort.

I think the one more suitable for that title is Orochimaru, seeing that he can be revived as long as there is a trace of his soul inside anything (read: Horcrux). lol.

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NEJI, HINATA, INO, what did they do to you!? Especially, Hinata....

God, this movie is stupid....

Nuuuuuuuuuuu not Neji >_>
lol'd at the shuriken and kunai on Ten Ten's buns btw.