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    I think despite the whole "I could save oro" stuff, Jiraya was all around stronger than Oro. Oro got solo's instantly buy Itachi. Itachi knew he probalby couldn't beat Jiraiya even with Kisame's help shows me that saw him as more of threat than Oro. That and lasting against Pain who itachi couldn't even touch.

    Speaking off, It would of been cool to see Edo Nagato vs Madara. I'm not convinced that So6PNaru and Sauce were stronger. So that fight would of been a lot more interesting.

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    Considering half the stuff Itachi said in part 1 was part of his "worlds greatest actor" bit, I'd take whatever he says in part 1 and really think about if it's true or he's using that as a excuse to not use his full power. This was before Uchiha's were ultimate power in the Naruto universe. And frankly I can't think of a single thing Jiraiya could do in his Sage Mode that could rival MS Itachi in Susanoo. I do believe Itachi when he said they'd both die. As in Itachi would kill Jiraiya in the end and the stress of using his MS would kill him. Again, this is not me saying Jiraiya is weak. I consider him very powerful. But the Uchihas, Bijuu users, Hashirama cell users, and Uzumaki bloodlines are beyond normal mortals. Orochimaru knew this, hence why he wanted Sharingan to remain relevant since part 1.

    As far as Orochimaru and Jiraiya go, I have always considered Jiraiya the more impressive of the two attack wise. Orochimaru is powerful, one of the most powerful characters in part 1, but he never did anything that made me say "Holy crap! This guys a legendary beast!" Pretty much all his most dangerous attacks involve him summoning someone or something else to fight for him. That's not cheap or anything, but compared to Jiraiya, being able to pull off all these cool moves alone, like with his hair. I don't know. Orochimaru's not weak. Neither is Jiraiya. They just suffer what most part 1 characters suffered.

    Edit: By the way, Edo Tensei Nagato vs Madara? Madara wins. Madara has Rinnegan as well, so he can do everything Nagato can do. But Nagato doesn't have Sharingan, so Madara can troll any fight, so long as Kaguya doesn't eat him midway through the fight.
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    Jiraiya's stronger? He does have the OP Rasengan, but I always thought Oro and his freaky snake body and summonings would lead to him being the strongest of the Sannin. My bad.

    Has Hinata ever shown any hints of jealousy or anger towards Naruto? More plots details are leaking, and it seems Hinata gets mad at Naruto and ignores him because she bought (or made?) one of those scarfs for Naruto, but she sees Naruto already wearing one (Konohamaru goes through Hiruzen's stuff, and sees a scarf made by Kushina just for Naruto).

    PS I recommend reading Hiashi's Master Plan. Obviously it's just a fan trying to outrageously connect the dots, but it's funny. The Uchihas went crazy and almost got their clan extinct, but Hiashi was just there planning NaruHina all along, ensuring the Hyuuga clan stays on top. What's better than having your first born daughter (who'll next in line to lead your clan) marrying the hero of the Leaf and also the 7th Hokage? Grandchildrens aren't pure Hyuugas, but that's a decent setback when you'll be mixing Uzumaki and Hyuuga bloodlines again for the first time in like forever.
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    Hi guys, been catching up with this series slowly, and one thing is bugging the **** out of me.

    Why does over 30% of shippuden's dialogue so far (50 episodes), seem to talk so much about how ****ing awesome Sasuke is on every level. They keep talking about this brotherly bond they share, yet they despised eachother in the first arc, most of the chunin exam arc, and then Sasuke kicked Naruto's ***, and just left by his own choice. I get that they were a team, and getting him back would be a priority, but do they really need to treat him like this Uber-man, that he really wasnt?

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    As far as Orochimaru and Jiraiya go, I have always considered Jiraiya the more impressive of the two attack wise. Orochimaru is powerful, one of the most powerful characters in part 1, but he never did anything that made me say "Holy crap! This guys a legendary beast!" Pretty much all his most dangerous attacks involve him summoning someone or something else to fight for him. That's not cheap or anything, but compared to Jiraiya, being able to pull off all these cool moves alone, like with his hair. I don't know. Orochimaru's not weak. Neither is Jiraiya. They just suffer what most part 1 characters suffered.
    Orochimaru rarely had good fights anyway. He couldn't even use ninjutsu himself when he fought Jiraiya and Tsunade, and he could only use a few when he fought Kyuubi mode Naruto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorde View Post
    Orochimaru rarely had good fights anyway. He couldn't even use ninjutsu himself when he fought Jiraiya and Tsunade, and he could only use a few when he fought Kyuubi mode Naruto.
    Orochimaru was able to summon in both fights. Vs Jiraiya and Tsunade, he had Kabuto summon for him. Obviously there was no handicap there because Kabuto was able to summon Manda of all things, through Orochimaru. Orochimaru was also able to summon those Rashomon towers in his Naruto fight too, so he's had decent fights. Me personally, I just don't think he measures up to the part 2 powerhouses. Whether his arms are working or not. Orochimaru IMO was not that impressive in the Hiruzen fight as he's made out to be. Edo Tensei Hashirama and Tobirama did most of the fighting of wearing Hiruzen down, not Orochimaru himself. I say without Edo Tensei backup, Hiruzen could have beaten Orochimaru.

    And to Phanpycross, I assume you're talking about the anime if you're talking episodes. That's the Sasuke treatment for you. The man can do no wrong. He commits crimes and gets a slap on the wrist. Naruto loves him so anything Sasuke does bad is null and void. That's just the way it is.
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    More The Last leaks. Sasuke only has 1 line......

    Guess how Naruto defeats Toneri. Just guess. Odds are, you're 100% correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SazandoraIsAwesome View Post
    Guess how Naruto defeats Toneri. Just guess. Odds are, you're 100% correct.
    Hmm, his infamous Talk no Jutsu perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorde View Post
    Hmm, his infamous Talk no Jutsu perhaps?
    His TnJ can defeat even the fiercest of the enemies XD No exceptions XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorde View Post
    Hmm, his infamous Talk no Jutsu perhaps?
        Spoiler:- Gee, thanks! You just spoiled the movie for me!:
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    God based on all the spoilers this movie sounds literally so awful. Filled with recons galore just for the sake of shoving a incredibly poorly developed pairing down our throats.

    I mean I just HAVE to laugh at this crap now.

        Spoiler:- LOL:


    Going from tumblr though it's very clear that the only people pleased with this are the NH fans. Nobody else is pleased with this movies spoilers.

    This movie should not JUST be about the NH romance but apparently it is. This is the last Naruto movie, that is really screwed up logic from Kishi.

    I'm sorry if anyone thinks that this movie still sounds good but it literally sounds like one of the cheesiest shouju movies ever even though it's shonen.

    SS fans are livid and they've basically turned on NH fans and many of them are boycotting this film.

    If nobody in any of the fandoms can enjoy this movie except for one pairing, you just know something is off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greninjamaster View Post
    God based on all the spoilers this movie sounds literally so awful. Filled with recons galore just for the sake of shoving a incredibly poorly developed pairing down our throats.

    I mean I just HAVE to laugh at this crap now.

        Spoiler:- LOL:


    Going from tumblr though it's very clear that the only people pleased with this are the NH fans. Nobody else is pleased with this movies spoilers.

    This movie should not JUST be about the NH romance but apparently it is. This is the last Naruto movie, that is really screwed up logic from Kishi.

    I'm sorry if anyone thinks that this movie still sounds good but it literally sounds like one of the cheesiest shouju movies ever even though it's shonen.

    SS fans are livid and they've basically turned on NH fans and many of them are boycotting this film.

    If nobody in any of the fandoms can enjoy this movie except for one pairing, you just know something is off.
    LOL...whoa! I'll talk about my thoughts on that later. But uh I have a question? Anything on Hanabi yet? Does she look mostly the same now? Does she do anything worth being mentioned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum fan. View Post
    LOL...whoa! I'll talk about my thoughts on that later. But uh I have a question? Anything on Hanabi yet? Does she look mostly the same now? Does she do anything worth being mentioned?
    There's already been several spoilers, yet none has described Hanabi's role other than to be kidnapped by Toneri mistaking her for Hinata. I don't think she even fights in the movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SazandoraIsAwesome View Post
    There's already been several spoilers, yet none has described Hanabi's role other than to be kidnapped by Toneri mistaking her for Hinata. I don't think she even fights in the movie.
    That's too bad. I kinda wanted to see Hanabi fight. Naruto must see his future sister-in-law in action at least once, LOL.
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    [QUOTE=Platinum fan.;17510115]LOL...whoa! I'll talk about my thoughts on that later. But uh I have a question? Anything on Hanabi yet? Does she look mostly the same now? Does she do anything worth being mentioned?

    Going from what I've heard hanabi does nothing really in the movie aside from getting kidnapped.

    Like I said this movie is a joke and nobody aside from the nh fans are happy and that's just sad.

    They had to use a two hour movie in order to recon almost the entire manga and make this poorly developed couple. It's just a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SazandoraIsAwesome View Post
    More The Last leaks. Sasuke only has 1 line......

    Guess how Naruto defeats Toneri. Just guess. Odds are, you're 100% correct.
    Talk No Jutsu followed up by the Mega Ultimate Juubi Rasengan Barrage.

    And honestly, I had a bad feeling that people were going to call this movie bad. As soon as it would mention that a majority of the focus would be on the romantic elements, the red sirens started blaring in my head. You don't dump all the romance for an entire series in one movie, and from what I'm hearing, it sounds like the actual romance is about as stock as you can get. I'm a NaruHina fan, and even I am disappointed with this movie (mostly for what it's being used for).
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    But the dude who's behind the romance is an EXPERT! You guys are just haters because NaruSaku didn't happen. GOSH!

    To be fair, all the Naruto movies have been horrible. Even Road to Ninja was horrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greninjamaster View Post
    God based on all the spoilers this movie sounds literally so awful. Filled with recons galore just for the sake of shoving a incredibly poorly developed pairing down our throats.

    I mean I just HAVE to laugh at this crap now.

        Spoiler:- LOL:


    Going from tumblr though it's very clear that the only people pleased with this are the NH fans. Nobody else is pleased with this movies spoilers.

    This movie should not JUST be about the NH romance but apparently it is. This is the last Naruto movie, that is really screwed up logic from Kishi.

    I'm sorry if anyone thinks that this movie still sounds good but it literally sounds like one of the cheesiest shouju movies ever even though it's shonen.

    SS fans are livid and they've basically turned on NH fans and many of them are boycotting this film.

    If nobody in any of the fandoms can enjoy this movie except for one pairing, you just know something is off.
    Is, is this real?!?!
    WTF, this makes Naruto out like the biggest A-hole ever, unless Im missing something....

    LOL @ talk no jutsu, sounds like something out of a disney-movie XD

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    So from the sound of those spoilers, I'll probably hate the film with a passion just like I hated all the other Naruto movies. This is why I wanted Kishi to give the story proper closure in the manga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phanpycross View Post
    Is, is this real?!?!
    WTF, this makes Naruto out like the biggest A-hole ever, unless Im missing something....

    LOL @ talk no jutsu, sounds like something out of a disney-movie XD

    Just like my favourite Disney song! "Sooooomeday, Talk No Jutsu". It sounds like something out of Naruto, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SazandoraIsAwesome View Post
    But the dude who's behind the romance is an EXPERT! You guys are just haters because NaruSaku didn't happen. GOSH!

    To be fair, all the Naruto movies have been horrible. Even Road to Ninja was horrible.
    Kishibsaid he sucked at romance and apparently its not about pairings. It is about characters and their assassination. Just look how the last two chapters made the characters! It was pathetic....even this movie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amour256 View Post
    Kishibsaid he sucked at romance and apparently its not about pairings. It is about characters and their assassination. Just look how the last two chapters made the characters! It was pathetic....even this movie!
    The dude who wrote the romance part of the movie is I think one of his assistance, not Kishi himself. This assistance is his so called "romance expert". So you get a supposed expert at crafting a romance story, yet from the sounds of it, the romance in The Last is equally dumb as Twilight's. Let's have Hinata be mad at Naruto all of a sudden for the first time in the manga's 15 years of publication, because he's already wearing a muffler, even though she's never been jealous of Sakura, who was always around Naruto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amour256 View Post
    Kishibsaid he sucked at romance and apparently its not about pairings. It is about characters and their assassination. Just look how the last two chapters made the characters! It was pathetic....even this movie!
    That seems to be the general problem that people associate with Shonen manga. A common gripe with Shonen anime is that it focuses a lot on the events taking place, but not enough on the characters taking part in them. The show/manga will be so dedicated to showing off a good fight, comedic moments, and the scenery so often that they tend to forget that a story usually falls apart if we can't care for the characters affected by what's going on. All potential character development and opportunities to show off the world they interact with is thrown out the window to show off that one overlong fight, and that causes the series as a whole to suffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amour256 View Post
    Kishibsaid he sucked at romance and apparently its not about pairings. It is about characters and their assassination. Just look how the last two chapters made the characters! It was pathetic....even this movie!
    Only Sasuke and Sakura ending up together after all the stuff that happened in Part 2 made me mad tbh. The rest of the conclusion's pairings were tolerable at least.

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    Sakura x Sasuke gave me Sarada, so I'll just pretend Sakura birthed her through mitosis or something.

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