Naruto: Post Timeskip Disscussion (Warning Intense Spoilers!)

[TsukiMirage]

Seems like it's a combo technique of senjutsu and Mokuton, seeing how he went into Sage Mode to use it.

[epicjirachifan]

Kishimoto said that naruto and sasuke would meet during this war but the fight I'm not so sure of.

[TsukiMirage]

If the Hokages are really gonna assist against Madara, then Sasuke would likely go with them and thus meet up with the other two sides.

[Ciccone]

I fully expect the Gokage (minus Tsunade) to arrive at the battlefield before Sasuke and the others. Still, I'm not sure how I feel about more dead characters fighting in a war that will determine the future of the ninja world. It seems like the current ninja need to win on their own to prove their worth.

[gohan5]

I fully expect the Gokage (minus Tsunade) to arrive at the battlefield before Sasuke and the others. Still, I'm not sure how I feel about more dead characters fighting in a war that will determine the future of the ninja world. It seems like the current ninja need to win on their own to prove their worth.

Agreed, it's like despite all the crazy levels of strength reached in the present, they still can't compare to the ninja of the past. The Sage of Six Paths, okay I can understand that, but there's countless others. I mean I'm all for legend, but that's just it, it's crazy seeing all of this evidence that it's not just legend. The First Hokage and Madara are stronger than any of the ninja that have come after them. But I guess it just depends on the situation. I still remember Enma saying that the Third could beat the First and Second had he been in his prime.

[Kamex]

Hm... I wouldn't say Hashirama and Madara's childhood meeting was a flashback within a flashback. I think it was more like a separate flashback interrupting the original flashback, but both on the same level. I believe the present-day Hashirama is still narrating and explaining both occurrences. If Hashirama of present-day's flashback-Hashirama was in turn having his own flashback (which original, present-day Hashirama would also have to mention as his old self having a flashback in the middle of the fight), then and only then would I consider it a flashback within a flashback!

Anyways, the stone-skipping activity was a nice reference to Madara's tailed beast bomb thing reaching the other side of the shore. Is this perhaps foreshadowing the fact that Hashirama was always one step ahead of Madara? Or that Hashirama taught and/or influenced Madara into becoming a better shinobi? In any case, it seems that Hashirama was a bit cocky from the beginning, and Madara was jealous and prideful from the beginning as well.

I hope we see Izuna somewhere in these flashbacks.

[-Raiga-]

I don't see Naruto vs. Sasuke topping this fight, if it ever happens at all. Naruto's techniques aren't nearly as impressive as Hashirama's, and while Sasuke has the same eyes and probably most of the same abilities as Madara had during this fight, I can't help but think that he still wouldn't live up to Madara's legacy.

The difference being, this fight will most likely be 2-3 chapters long. Naruto vs. Sasuke might very well be 5-10 depending on how much talking is involved between parts.

[Platinum fan.]

Agreed, it's like despite all the crazy levels of strength reached in the present, they still can't compare to the ninja of the past. The Sage of Six Paths, okay I can understand that, but there's countless others. I mean I'm all for legend, but that's just it, it's crazy seeing all of this evidence that it's not just legend. The First Hokage and Madara are stronger than any of the ninja that have come after them. But I guess it just depends on the situation. I still remember Enma saying that the Third could beat the First and Second had he been in his prime.

It almost makes Naruto, Sasuke, and their generation look not so cheap. So many boundaries have been broken with Madara, and probably the 1st Hokage as well if he does indeed fight. Again I wonder if he can resist Edo Tensai, why didn't he do it before the first time Orochimaru summoned him? Surely he could have broken the hold before Orochimaru put the Kunai in his head, but whatever.

[Ciccone]

The difference being, this fight will most likely be 2-3 chapters long. Naruto vs. Sasuke might very well be 5-10 depending on how much talking is involved between parts.

I don't think the length of the battle will be the deciding factor though. I just don't think Naruto or Sasuke possess jutsu that are as grand as those displayed by Hashirama and Madara. I mean Sasuke could probably pull a couple of impressive jutsu since he's always been given cool abilities imo, but Naruto basically just has Rasengan variations.

[gohan5]

It almost makes Naruto, Sasuke, and their generation look not so cheap. So many boundaries have been broken with Madara, and probably the 1st Hokage as well if he does indeed fight. Again I wonder if he can resist Edo Tensai, why didn't he do it before the first time Orochimaru summoned him? Surely he could have broken the hold before Orochimaru put the Kunai in his head, but whatever.

Yeah I know what you mean, basically what I said about depends on the situation. Back then the First wasn't known to be this insanely strong and was just the village founder, as opposed to now where he's been (or his cells anyway) a major driving factor in the war.

[SkyDeity]

It almost makes Naruto, Sasuke, and their generation look not so cheap. So many boundaries have been broken with Madara, and probably the 1st Hokage as well if he does indeed fight. Again I wonder if he can resist Edo Tensai, why didn't he do it before the first time Orochimaru summoned him? Surely he could have broken the hold before Orochimaru put the Kunai in his head, but whatever.

Tobirama noted that they were revived at near full power this time. That's the difference between now and then. It's crazy to think that they are still not as strong as they are supposed to be.

[Endless]

Tobirama noted that they were revived at near full power this time. That's the difference between now and then. It's crazy to think that they are still not as strong as they are supposed to be.

It still seems as they were revived as how they were when they died. Hashirama and Tobirama might have been at their prime when they died, but Hiruzen was clearly not, and he is still revived as an old man.

I would actually really like to see him at his prime, as he was stated to be the strongest of the Hokages. But I doubt it as Hashirama seems godlike right now.

[HoennMaster]

I think Hiruzen holding his own against two Hokages at once indicated he is still fairly strong.

[Ciccone]

I place Hiruzen in the middle in terms of power among the Hokage. I think Minato and Hashirama outrank him, or at least that's what Kishi would have us believe.

[Platinum fan.]

I place Hiruzen in the middle in terms of power among the Hokage. I think Minato and Hashirama outrank him, or at least that's what Kishi would have us believe.

They use to hype Sarutobi up as the best Hokage, then it was Minato, and now Hashirama. It's really hard to tell. Poor 2nd Hokage was never given the strongest title But yeah in terms of the strongest it looks like Hashirama is the strongest. At least until Kishi wants to hype up another Hokage, which could be at anytime.

[gohan5]

They use to hype Sarutobi up as the best Hokage, then it was Minato, and now Hashirama. It's really hard to tell. Poor 2nd Hokage was never given the strongest title But yeah in terms of the strongest it looks like Hashirama is the strongest. At least until Kishi wants to hype up another Hokage, which could be at anytime.

Yeah exactly, they've all, barring the second, been stated at one time or another to be the most powerful. Like I'm sure Hiruzen at his prime is much more powerful than he is now, but I still say Hashirama is the strongest. I mean he has to be, if Madara is as powerful as he is, and Hashirama beat him.

[pokemonsquared]

Yeah exactly, they've all, barring the second, been stated at one time or another to be the most powerful. Like I'm sure Hiruzen at his prime is much more powerful than he is now, but I still say Hashirama is the strongest. I mean he has to be, if Madara is as powerful as he is, and Hashirama beat him.

Their rankings probably fluctuate depending on what supplements Kishi takes every day to help him gain ideas for what to write.

[Ciccone]

A pretty boring chapter this week. We didn't learn much other than Hashirama had another brother named Itama who was killed by the Uchiha clan and Madara had four other brothers. It was strange seeing Madara's personality as a child though. He was hot-headed, unlike his adult self. But Hashirama seemed the same for the most part.

[HoennMaster]

Yeah I was hoping this chapter wasn't going to be all flashback but sadly no.

[Kamex]

Not gonna lie... I'm interested in the "Warring States Period" of the Naruto world, and I also want to know how Hashirama, Madara, their families, their clans, Konoha, etc. all came to be as we know them. So I don't mind flashbacks.

I wonder... surely Izuna hasn't died yet at this time? I'm sure Madara hasn't unlocked a Mangekyou Sharingan yet, much less an Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, so I guess Izuna's still around. I'm surprised Kishi hasn't mentioned any sisters or girls in general though. Or maybe I shouldn't be... lol.