top 5 strongest shinobi when they were alive not edo tensei
top 5 including everyone with edo tensei power up feats
I haven't been convinced that Naruto and Sasuke were stronger than Full powered Edo Nagato. They've haven't shown anything that impressive and were still getting slap around with their powerups until Madara got fudged
including edo and such but not including since that was total fanfiction nonsense
3. Edo Nagato
Er, I'm pretty sure that both Sasuke and Naruto were stronger than edo Nagato even before they got the Sage's power. Anyway
the second list dealt with everyone edo tensei, kaguya, alive, dead,if they were not ninja etc... kaguya to me would be the only one who could top madara...madara nearly killed naruto and sasuke a couple of times through out the war...naruto didnt beat him alone and sasuke didnt beat him alone it took both of them to atleast stand up to him but still couldnt really do anything so to me madara>>>naruto madara>>>sasuke
Kaguya's abilities were too cheap; I don't even want to rank her tbh. I still wish that Madara had been the final villain in the war; I think of him as the strongest ninja during that arc and the strongest in general aside from Kaguya and the Sage of Six Paths.
iirc madara used the rinnegan to abosord naruto or someones bigass attack so as far as im concerned, all that bijuu chakra nonsense can just be absorbed by nagato as well
id be ok with dropping him one spot lower and bumping up naruto before they got hax powers but before that, there was no way. keeping in mind edo nagato had unlimited charka, thats a pretty big advantage over sauce since he tires easily
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When they 'died' or whatever and got the sages powers. I'll agree with Naruto being a step above Nagato (i could still debate it though but let's not for the sake of this post). Mainly due to high stamina. Other wise, I just see unlimited charka Nagato stalling Naruto until one of them tires out.
On the other hand, I still say Sasuke is weaker. He had trouble using both his eyes after the powerup iirc and tired out pretty fast. Combine that with not knowing the full powers of the rinnegan, and the fact that his moves would be more easy to adsorb than Naruto, I'd still put Nagato higher. The way Madara was stomping him, it doesn't seem like he'd fare much better against another rinnegan user. Though, if there was something in manga that disproves this, im all ears. i was kind glancing over the last battle so i might of missed some things.
Edo Tensei Nagato is powerful for sure. Probably one of the strongest foes in the entire series. I will not debate that at all. But after Naruto and Sasuke got their Sage of Six Path uber powers, I think they could beat him. Naruto was caught off guard by Edo Tensei Nagato when they fought, but he remembered all his powers. He just wasn't expecting Nagato to be able to use them all himself without his Pain dolls. I'm not saying Naruto could have beaten Nagato at that time without Itachi and Killer Bee with him, but after Naruto got his Sage of Six Paths powers? Yeah, I think he could pull off a win. It would be tough for sure, because not only is Nagato powerful, but he's also a Edo Tensei. Meanining unlimited broken chakra. So one error on Naruto's part could lead Nagato to a win. Nagato's kinda overlooked because Madara is basically a fusion of Nagato and Itachi with triple the power.
Obviously Madara is the strongest. Even with the hax, Naruto and Sasuke didn't actually beat him. Kishi pulled the Kaguya trick. We'll never know if Naruto and Sasuke could have beaten Madara or not. Storyline wise they'd have to but it seems Kishi made Kaguya a scapegoat. But I would certainly put Guy on the list. Might Guy is the only person to damage Madara at his best. And he did it alone. So Guy certainly deserves a spot. But for strongest it's Madara. Madara was so OP he didn't feel like a Naruto villain.
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Naruto and Sasuke without a doubt could have defeated Madara, with Plot no Jutsu by their side. Kishimoto already said NvS was going to be the last fight, so you know Madara stood no chance of surviving. Only reason Kaguya was nerfed was because she obviously wasnt allowed to kill our main characters. Madara was allowed to kill the Gokage and mess around with fodders and side characters, so his full power was shown. Plus, The Last advertisements were finally releasing, and we saw our main characters alive, so there was no feeling of suspense anymore about who'll live or die.
Anyway, post war Narusuke are the strongest Shinobis of their generation. Just 2 years later, Sauce singlehandedly destroyed a meteor with one sword slash, and Naruto was fighting on the moon being a space ninja. If there is a Part 3, who exactly would be even stronger than them? Maybe because Kakashi, Obito, and Kaguya were carelessly opening dimensional rifts, stronger enemies from those comes over and decide to attack the dimension where the Narusuke resides? Might as well do it now before Toriyama comes back to DB again and tell the story of another dimension.
but i will agree post war naruto and sasuke are the strongest (no duh they are the main characters) also he destroyed the meteor with a chidori not his sword
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Destroying the meteor with his Chidori is even better then. He didn't resort to Susano'o or use Raikiri to destroy it, just good ol' Chidori. I think I remember someone saying Rock Lee also had an even better moment by also breaking a meteor by kicking it. That true? If so, that's even cooler than Sasuke's.
i wonder who the strongest genjutsu user is?
my first instincts would be itachi or shishui but as edo tensei more preferably shishui since we didnt get much of him in the manga and i believe they said he was better than itachi in genjutsu and was his master/teacher/role model
If Choji can get Karui of all people, might as well give someone else a random partner.
I'm kind of excited for half of these. I wonder how often chaos happens in a peaceful ninja world and if Kakashi will have to deal with it. Shikamaru fighting somebody is nice to see if it's largely strategy. I have a feeling it might be Kurenai or Mirai. The Akatsuki story is whatever but it'd be nice to get an update on Hidan's mangled and buried body. And the Konoha story better answer if TentenxLee is a thing.
Don't care about Gaara and Sakura since we know how their love lives end up.