I'd say bee is there simply to put over how much stronger naruto then became, same with the hachibi compared to the kyuubi.
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I just visited Naruto forums hoping to see if any spoilers had been posted, but it's obviously too early for that. Still, I laughed out loud at some of the threads there. The people who are against the Tobi is Obito theory are already doing damage control ahead of this week's chapter; first they said that there was no way Tobi had anything to do with Obito, then they said that Tobi only had Obito's eye, and now they're saying that even if Tobi has Obito's body, it doesn't necessarily mean that he's Obito. They're trying to cover their tracks, but it's just getting silly. Soon they'll be saying that even though Tobi has Obito's memories, it isn't really him. I bet Kishi could confirm the theory, and people would still not believe it.
Anyway, since it's possible that Tobi's identity will be revealed today/tomorrow, I'm going to stick with the notion that he is Obito.
I still say that it's not Obito, but I have no theory on who it actually is so I'll pretend it's Obito and be all "I knew it" when it is Obito (since that's the most likely theory).
I like that we all seem to have the same consensus here. It will make an alternate revelation (there won't be.) more shocking. I'm really excited for the chapter, even though I don't expect a full-blown reveal. At most, I think we'll see the full face as the last page leading into chapter 600.
Spoiler:- Moon Progress:
I disagree that it is Obito under the mask and would love to see how Kishi will explain away how he is now the (formerly) masked madman named Tobi.
This Obito is Tobi business, hmph. I suppose next they expect me to believe that Haku's really a guy. Ha! I guess we're going to find out soon enough. But I wonder if they'll defeat Tobi in this fight or he escapes and lives to play a bigger role later on? I would suspect when Tobi goes down the war ends, or is at the verge of ending. Right? But as long as Tobi's not a future version of Sasuke I'm happy. Don't do it Kishimoto.
RIP anime version of Glovehead. Pokemon Adventures will save you.
Either way, Kishi is going to be very busy for the next few weeks.
One of the many who seriously doubt it's gonna be Obito. But honestly, I'll be willing to admit I could possibility be mistaken if Tobi actually does turn out to be Obito, simply because this is Kishi we're talking about here and I will still call fail if there's not an excellent explanation to go along with the reveal.
A soul that cannot be saved drifts and disappears,
In the instant it vanishes, it shines faintly,
Now, it creates a night with a full moon.
OBITO, asked whether he is Obito? :P Damn troll.. -.-
Oh god, the troll is even harder, we have a flashback from Kakashi and Gai, and at the end he basically asks whether Tobi is Obito or not.. WHAT THE FLUP WAS THE POINT OF BREAKING THE MASK THEN!!! :S
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Answer to all the bad things in the world: Give up on trying to make everything better. Hence, accepting it for what it is. YOLO! <- Click the link and daw.. -.-
"If I had my way in DP, Ash would've hit the league with: Pikachu, Ambipom (his to keep), Torterra (Grass/Starter), Lucario (Ace), Chingling (Cute), Bidoof (Water-type) and Heatran (Fire-type)."
Spoiler:- GenVII Starter names speculation:
The second line is meant to be sarcastic.. Though there was a random trainer with a Heatran at the Sinnoh League..
I knew it! Everybody knew it! All this buildup, wasted because everyone and their grandmother guessed it years ago!
I knew Kishimoto would've gone the obvious route.
Wow. This chapter felt short. Would've been nice to have some dialogue in those flashbacks.
Is it just me, or did Guy look stupider as a kid than Lee did? I mean, that's not much of an accomplishment, but come on...
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It is obito!!! kishi: trololololol
I loved the last page narration acting like the reveal was a big shock or surprise to anyone.
Now all we need is a bridge between the Obito we saw this chapter and his Tobi persona.
Obito seem to had similar personality has Naruto !
Both of them were underdog and Both of them was in love with their teammate who had a major crush on their rival!
I wonder how he gone to the dark side ?
Is Rin's death has anything to do with it !
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Well Tobi and Obito are officially ruined as characters. Now they're a bitter guy motivated by revenge that hasn't moved on. Obito's once noble sacrifice has been tainted and Tobi is just another revenge driven villain who used to be friends with a main character.
Anyway, let's take a look at this now. When Obito's face was crushed the part that was crushed matches with this new Obito's face. Obviously he'd still have his right Sharingan, but where'd he get his left one? He turned evil just because he's upset (and maybe saw something in Naruto after a while that reminded him of himself?).
Last edited by DucksGoMooful; 29th August 2012 at 3:32 PM.
Well sometimes the obvious suspect is the obvious choice and since many guessed it was Obito years ago looks like Kishi didn't bother to make in something else. How funny would it be if Obito is just a dead body like the Pains and being controlled by Rin? That little she devil is probably the reason he went bad XD but in all seriousness it was interesting to see how Kakashi, Obito, and Rin mirrored early Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura. Like Ver-mont and Vodor said it's like Obito is a path Naruto could have taken, because from the chapter it looks like Rin was a big part of his character, maybe not the main part, but she sure was a big part. There's still som questions that need to be answered but I'm sure they will. It sucks that Obito is corrupted. Until now I considered him the only honest Uchiha not going down a dark road, but I guess that is the fate of Uchiha's.
Yes! No future Sasuke! This made my day.
RIP anime version of Glovehead. Pokemon Adventures will save you.
Let it be known that Tobi is Obito. Just as everyone who paid attention to the hints (which were numerous and obvious) predicted. I loved the flashback to his life at the start of the chapter; it made things more dramatic, and also very sad. It sucks that Obito's life changed and he became a villain for whatever reason.
Are we going to keep referring to him as Tobi anymore, or are we just going to call him Obito from now on?