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    To be fair, Madara was hyped up as unbeatable long before we saw him take Hashirama's power. And his invincibility is more due to Edo Tensei then that.

    As for him being a plot device, the entire Edo Tensei situation basically was. Personally, I enjoy Madara far more then Obito because there's only so much randomness I can take. His entire character seems like nothing more then a bunch of retcons. Honestly I'll admit I'm still sort of pissed over the whole revel.
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    Thank God the manga is back. I actually enjoyed the chapter even if the Juubi hasn't completely changed form yet. Finally knowing why Kakashi killed Rin made things a lot more interesting although I never would have thought that Rin was made into a jinchuuriki. And Obito's revelation that he literally has no heart was pretty cool too.

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    Hahahahaha! Oh God, I can't take this seriously. He literally has no heart? Ha! We get it, Kishi! The Uchiha are emo. This is just cheesy.

    And now I can't stop imagining Obito as a Heartless.

    Also, Rin's a Jinchuriki? Well, that came out of nowhere and is completely stupid.

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    YAY Naruto's back. hmm i was kinda right about Kakashi's killing Rin. I figured that it would have been a mercy killing at her request, kinda is more of a suicide, but still she died for what she loved her home if any thing Obito should have honor that but Uchiha are kind of insane, with that hate think that happen when somebody they love dies. it's possable when that gets to a point ones heart disappear, that or it's more zetsu goo that his arms made of is acting as a replacement hmm some many idea

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    So the Juubi is transforming into... a bodybuilder?

    Hm, Obito denying that Kakashi and Rin were his motivators for the war almost seems to be directed towards the readers haha.

    Interesting that Rin was the Sanbi's jinchuuriki for a time... I wonder what happened after she died? How did the Sanbi continue to live, and is this the point where it started roaming free, or is this when it was put into Yagura? And was it Obito and/or Madara who did so? I know the timeline's probably a little screwed up right now, but I'd like to make some sense out of all of this.

    Nice to see Obito act insane, because it makes it a little more believable that we're looking at the masked-maniac-mastermind Tobi. I don't know if he really hasn't had a heart all this time, or if Kakashi just obliterated it (there's fresh blood dripping so it's hard to tell). But in any case, even with Hashirama's cells' regenerative abilities, now I'm wondering how he can remain alive without a heart...

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    I think the whole no heart thing was supposed to be more symbolic than actually about not having a heart.
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    So we learn what happened to Rin. I thought that would take up a entire chapter, it was only like what three pages? That's fine with me, at least we got answers. Obito is a Heartless now. The only way to slay him is with a Keyblade. Come on, Kakashi. Summon one up but in all seriousness I enjoyed the Obito and Kakashi parts. I'm still more interested in Obito then Madara. His reasoning for starting the war, well it wasn't horrible. He hates the Shinobi system so of course when someone hates something they must destroy it. I'm not sure how Obito's story will end but I am more interested to see it then Madara fighting the dead Hokages. Ugh, I'm actually dreading that more and more. An okay chapter.
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    Apart from the Rin being a Jinchuriki bit, the panels of Hinata taking charge and standing at the head of the alliance was also an unexpected surprise this chapter.

    She's come a long way since her first appearance.

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    I'm glad Kishi clarified Obito's motivation for starting the war. I kind of knew that there had to be more to it than just Rin's death, and I liked the explanation about the shinobi system being responsible for the way Obito turned out. It was actually funny watching Kakashi try to use Talk no Jutsu against Obito, but I'm glad that Obito isn't falling for it.

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    Got a bit shocked when Rin was revealed to be a jinchuuriki. A forced one, but still. I wonder how if Obito's downfall is to happen soon enough? After all, he's not an Edo Tensei corpse.
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    This chapter, not only did uncover the history of Kakashi with Rin, but to me it definitely hinted Naruto being the enbodiment of the Sage of Six Paths. I got goosebumps.
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    - Chapter is finally hereeeeee
    - Such a beautiful face causes so much destruction. Tragic.
    - The Juubi is so powerful that it can create nukes from lightning.
    - Juubi: Uhhhohh! lol
    - Naruto is wrecked. Looks like he'll need new clothing for the next timeskip.
    - Ugh, Hinata is trying to take control of the army.
    - I love that Obito is saying what we're all wondering (about a change of heart.)
    - Did Obito just force Kakashi to stab him? Whoa
    - Holy. A wild explanation appeared!
    - Kakuzu should have shared one of his hearts with Obito.

    Damn. I really enjoyed that chapter. I like that we finally got an explanation to Rin's death. It was quick and to the point, but I'm not sure if people will agree with me. I also like Obito a lot more after this chapter.

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    You know, I've recently been watching some Baccano, and the more I think about it, the more I realize how much like a mafia the Akatsuki is. If they really were an old-time mafia, I can imagine the Akatsuki being like this:

    Deidara and Sasori (Basic Militia): Provide basic protection to parties that serve the Akatsuki and also act as hitmen in charge of eliminating specific elements.

    Kakuzu & Hidan (Enterprise Managers): Managers of the casinos and bars and are the source of most of Akatsuki's income.

    Itachi & Kisame (Intelligence): Constantly collect and sell information and are in charge of all major business pertaining to information media.

    Orochimaru & Zetsu (R&D Department): In charge of the development of new weapons and such for the Akatsuki and paying clients that want an edge in future wars/battles (Akatsuki still gets the best stuff).

    Pein & Konan (Grand Boss): Keep track of all basic activities and goals of the Akatsuki as a whole and punish any organizations that decide to interfere too much in Akatsuki operations.

    Tobi/Obito ("Human Resources"): In charge of the internal affairs of the Akatsuki and take care of all Akatsuki members that even consider defecting.

    When I think about it this way, I can imagine Akatsuki really taking over the world by the end of a generation.

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    Not much of a chapter even after the wait. Kiri's plan for Rin was stupid and makes no sense, along with Rin's reasons for killing herself. And Obito is funny, talking about how it's not about Rin and then going on to explain why it's all about Rin. Hopefully him having Kakashi in his genjutsu will lead to something more interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TsukiMirage View Post
    Not much of a chapter even after the wait. Kiri's plan for Rin was stupid and makes no sense, along with Rin's reasons for killing herself. And Obito is funny, talking about how it's not about Rin and then going on to explain why it's all about Rin. Hopefully him having Kakashi in his genjutsu will lead to something more interesting.
    Now that you mention it, the whole plan involving the Sanbi was pretty stupid, and we certainly can't count on suspension of disbelief to explain how the Sanbi was going to be set loose and out of control. To be honest, we could've had a Hidden Leaf Village with two tailed beasts just like the Hidden Cloud Village pre-Akatsuki mess. Can you imagine a baby Naruto having a caretaker that is also a Jinchuuriki? That would be fun to see.

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    Is Obito immortal? why else would he let Kakashi blow his heart away when he could just phase through/away?

    Only redeeming factor was learning how Rin died and that she was a Sanbi jinchuuriki....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durian Seed View Post
    Is Obito immortal? why else would he let Kakashi blow his heart away when he could just phase through/away?
    Half of his body is wood.

    The chapter was okay. Didn't really care for Rin, nice to see Sakura offer something to the fight (albeit something simple), Obito sounds like an obnoxious teenager that refuses to accept he's wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charminions View Post
    Obito sounds like an obnoxious teenager that refuses to accept he's wrong.
    I don't know. A lot of what he's been talking about sounds reasonable imo. I actually think Naruto is the one who refuses to accept that he's wrong. He keeps spouting random stuff but can't back it up. I'm tired of all his "I'll find a way to bring peace" stuff. I just want him to come up with an actual solution instead of constantly telling people to have faith in him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charminions View Post
    Half of his body is wood.

    The chapter was okay. Didn't really care for Rin, nice to see Sakura offer something to the fight (albeit something simple), Obito sounds like an obnoxious teenager that refuses to accept he's wrong.
    This war has gone on so long(parallel to real wars I guess), many details are fuzzy in my memory/

    At this point I just want SOMEONE to ravish the other side and end it finally.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TsukiMirage View Post
    Kiri's plan for Rin was stupid and makes no sense
    How so? This was before Obito unleashed the Kyuubi on the Leaf so I don't see any reason for them to think it wouldn't work. And I assume if they sealed the Sanbi within Rin, they could have a way to break that seal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charminions View Post
    Half of his body is wood.
    If you look at the panel closely, the hole is on the left side, while it was the right side that has the wood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlashFusion View Post
    If you look at the panel closely, the hole is on the left side, while it was the right side that has the wood.
    Surely Kishimoto will retcon/fix that in the Volume release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durian Seed View Post
    Is Obito immortal? why else would he let Kakashi blow his heart away when he could just phase through/away?

    Only redeeming factor was learning how Rin died and that she was a Sanbi jinchuuriki....
    Obito cannot phase in the Kamui world (where they are at right now) because he's already phased from reality.

    As for the piercing, maybe he learned how to move his organs around with the Wood style technique...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamex View Post
    How so? This was before Obito unleashed the Kyuubi on the Leaf so I don't see any reason for them to think it wouldn't work. And I assume if they sealed the Sanbi within Rin, they could have a way to break that seal.
    I thought Kishi's explanation was all right. At least I don't see any big plot holes at the moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    Obito cannot phase in the Kamui world (where they are at right now) because he's already phased from reality.

    As for the piercing, maybe he learned how to move his organs around with the Wood style technique...?
    Exactly, he can't phase since he's already in the "other dimension." As for him being stabbed, why do I get the feeling that it's all a genjutsu and Obito's trolling Kakashi?

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    It could be a genjutsu. That would actually make a lot of sense. Or maybe he has a full-on Zetsu body now.

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