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    Quote Originally Posted by hol123 View Post
    Tsunade knows that she doesn't deserve to be Hokage. She's said it countless times that Jiraiya should have been and Kakashi should replace her.

    I think she's suitable, but we really haven't gotten any visual proof (like a fight) for why she is Hokage. The other four have shown their power, Tsunade is just 'strong'.
    Jiraiya certainly had what it took, and was selfish to not accept the title after Minato died, and again after Hiruzen died.

    Kakashi? I've already discussed my thoughts on him.

    Tsunade is indeed a mistreatment of the female character archetype.

    Really, even Mei is being mistreated now.

    Honestly, the best treatment a female got was Kushina, and that is only thanks to her Uzumaki clan special chakra and Fuinjutsu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum fan. View Post
    Tsunade is a master healer so that can be her legacy. Other then that and being strong, Tsunade is just forgettable in the grand scheme of Hokage compared to the first 4. I wish she got a fight to show her stuff. It's to late now. Another female character getting the short end of the stick. There always in a trio with boys to.
    I don't think her healing abilities are all that great, though. She was barely able to keep Konoha's ninja alive during Pain's invasion, and she used so much power that she fell into a coma. She's not cut-out to be the Hokage in my opinion, and she's only there as a place holder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 4th KIRA View Post
    I don't think her healing abilities are all that great, though. She was barely able to keep Konoha's ninja alive during Pain's invasion, and she used so much power that she fell into a coma. She's not cut-out to be the Hokage in my opinion, and she's only there as a place holder.
    That and she failed to save Dan, her only boyfriend, and that was at her prime in her twenties………

    Also, since many years have passed, people forget, but she was out of commission for decades, as her fear of blood had reduced her to a useless gambling woman.

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    I think Mei has been treated pretty well. She started out subpar, but since then she has been allowed quite a few good feats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TsukiMirage View Post
    I think Mei has been treated pretty well. She started out subpar, but since then she has been allowed quite a few good feats.
    Almost killing Sasuke, when he was battle worn and at least half blind is a good feat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TsukiMirage View Post
    I think Mei has been treated pretty well. She started out subpar, but since then she has been allowed quite a few good feats.
    I liked that she was able to keep up with Sasuke, although he was exhausted at the time. I really wish we had seen her battle with Black Zetsu. She may get a chance to prove her worth during the conclusion of the Gokage's battle with Madara, but I'm not sure that it'll happen; that battle may just end off-screen.

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    Its Naruto, Kishi don't allow Women to have good, lasting moments. There are very few exceptions.

    Hinata, Konan, Chiyo, Tsunade and Kushina are the only ones that stand out due to their individual self sacrifices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimsonash310 View Post
    Its Naruto, Kishi don't allow Women to have good, lasting moments. There are very few exceptions.

    Hinata, Konan, Chiyo, Tsunade and Kushina are the only ones that stand out due to their individual self sacrifices.
    It is a sad, sad world where a woman needs to sacrifice her life, or get severely injured and/or maimed, to be relevant and worthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elekible-Kid View Post
    Almost killing Sasuke, when he was battle worn and at least half blind is a good feat?
    I was actually talking about her tag teaming Edo Madara with Ee. It was nice to see a woman take the lead and handle herself in battle without having to protect or be protected.

    Quote Originally Posted by The 4th KIRA View Post
    I liked that she was able to keep up with Sasuke, although he was exhausted at the time. I really wish we had seen her battle with Black Zetsu. She may get a chance to prove her worth during the conclusion of the Gokage's battle with Madara, but I'm not sure that it'll happen; that battle may just end off-screen.
    It would depend on how Kishi plans to end it. I could see us skipping it if the Kages only win by Itachi cancelling Edo Tensei. But if they have to actually win it, I could see us being shown some more. With Onoki acting all big and getting another flashback, I can see the second one happening. Unless it's really a fakeout leading to Onoki dying. Either way wold be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The 4th KIRA View Post
    I don't think her healing abilities are all that great, though. She was barely able to keep Konoha's ninja alive during Pain's invasion, and she used so much power that she fell into a coma. She's not cut-out to be the Hokage in my opinion, and she's only there as a place holder.
    I would hardly say going into a coma protecting everyone from Pain's giant Shinrai Tensai is a failure at all, imagine how many people were in the village. It was like healing everyone from the brink of death. And without direct contact too.

    She still did a decent job being the village's top secretary :3

    Quote Originally Posted by TsukiMirage View Post
    It would depend on how Kishi plans to end it. I could see us skipping it if the Kages only win by Itachi cancelling Edo Tensei. But if they have to actually win it, I could see us being shown some more. With Onoki acting all big and getting another flashback, I can see the second one happening. Unless it's really a fakeout leading to Onoki dying. Either way wold be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elekible-Kid View Post
    It is a sad, sad world where a woman needs to sacrifice her life, or get severely injured and/or maimed, to be relevant and worthy.
    I know right? Still, I guess I shouldn't be too hard on Tsunade. She still seems like a fine leader. I just wish she would use her super-powerful strength some more, instead of just her healing abilities. I fell in love with Tsunade's character because she was so tough, but lately she's been really mellow. :x

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    cant wait to see what happens between sasuke and itachi :3 is it wednesday yet?

    i sorta just want sasuke, seeing itachi reborn, to snap him out of his hatred. Or at least have itachi attempt to remove sasuke's hatred.
    jk i love sasuke's current character. so evil lol NEVER FORGET YOUR HATRED SASUKE

    .....i doubt theyre going to fight again....since it'd be repetitive. but if there is a fight, im guessing it'll just be sasuke completely overpowering itachi, proving how much stronger he's gotten.

    i cant wait :3

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    Am I the only one who hates Sasuke and wants him to die. I mean seriously. I hope it is Sakura who does the finishing blow to redeem her character. (You know, like she almost did, but failed so hard and needed Kakashi and Naruto to rescue her. Because she is a failure.) I actually like Sakura. (I just hate her personality.) Just let something good happen for her and give her a power up for one. THIS MISTREATMENT OF GIRLS MUST END!!!

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    If Sasuke dies, it gonna be some sort of self-sacrifice moment. That would be the only way for Naruto to keep his promise and Sasuke to pay for what he's done.

    And Sakura's likely ain't gonna do anything important from this point on. She's already basically said she'll leave it to Naruto to handle things. We'll just have to depend on Mei and Ino for some positive female empowerment. Maybe Tsunade too if she actually starts living up to her title.
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    I have a feeling that Sasuke will stop Itachi from completing his mission. I can see Itachi trying to reason with Sasuke, only for Sasuke to get angry and seal Itachi using a new EMS technique or something. In a perfect world, Itachi would convince Sasuke to stop acting like a spoiled child, but alas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles0624 View Post
    Am I the only one who hates Sasuke and wants him to die. I mean seriously. I hope it is Sakura who does the finishing blow to redeem her character. (You know, like she almost did, but failed so hard and needed Kakashi and Naruto to rescue her. Because she is a failure.) I actually like Sakura. (I just hate her personality.) Just let something good happen for her and give her a power up for one. THIS MISTREATMENT OF GIRLS MUST END!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TsukiMirage View Post
    I was actually talking about her tag teaming Edo Madara with Ee. It was nice to see a woman take the lead and handle herself in battle without having to protect or be protected.

    It would depend on how Kishi plans to end it. I could see us skipping it if the Kages only win by Itachi cancelling Edo Tensei. But if they have to actually win it, I could see us being shown some more. With Onoki acting all big and getting another flashback, I can see the second one happening. Unless it's really a fakeout leading to Onoki dying. Either way wold be nice.
    Still — I need Mei to get a decent battle that'll be worth enough chapters to spawn an episode or two. Vs. a strong opponent, ideally. Women do not get enough focus, I know this is shounen manga but damn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TsukiMirage View Post
    If Sasuke dies, it gonna be some sort of self-sacrifice moment. That would be the only way for Naruto to keep his promise and Sasuke to pay for what he's done.

    And Sakura's likely ain't gonna do anything important from this point on. She's already basically said she'll leave it to Naruto to handle things. We'll just have to depend on Mei and Ino for some positive female empowerment. Maybe Tsunade too if she actually starts living up to her title.
    Which is a shame...the Sakura stuff anyway. I guess Tsunade can try and make herself seem important in the Madara fight but I don't see it. She's just keeping the seat warm for ole Naruto. I sometimes wonder what would have happened if Tsunade had actually died during her coma. It might sound heartless, but at least it would have brought some drama to the series and Konoha would struggle to find a new Hokage and make Kakashi one out of desperation. Would have made for a few interesting chapters even if Kakashi himself admitted he wasn't up for the job. That's what would make it so interesting.
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    I don't see Tsunade survivng. She's the only one of the Sanin still alive if Orochimaru doesn't come back via Kabuto (which I hope he doesn't). In my opinion she is the weakest as well.
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    Yea but Kishi enjoys his happiness and bliss, so she'll probably make it.
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