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    Default Mind Reader +Sheer Cold?

    I like Articuno, but its a bit rubbish. But is it possible to use Sheer Cold and hit for sure after using mind reader?

    Also, mean look + perish song was suggested in a previous set of mine for Gengar.


    Are there any other pokemon with 1 hit KO moves that be used like this?

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    No, there are no other. Only Articuno can do this, even then, after using Mind Reader, the AI will switch. It won't leave it there to faint.

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    Only Articuno can do this sadly ._.

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    Yeah, it stinks but Articuno is the only one who can do it, but it kicks TOTAL BUTT! That's why Articuno is there on my team, for that combo
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    Smeargle can do it too, its just that it doesn't work as well. It's only good for In-game because if you were actually battling someone, they would switch.
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    i think smeargle actually does this better, spore + mind reader + sheer cold, with a max speed stat of 273 its not too bad
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    Only in-game this would work

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    Or double battle having one use Mean Look =D
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    Yeah a Smeargle with meanlook+Mindreader+then a Sheer Cold would work out well.

    I always use Articuno with that OHKO combo. But everyone seems to know what to expect after the first KO. XD


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    You could Mean Look + Spore + Mind Reader + Sheer Cold, but Smeargle would probably die the turn you Mean Look because of its terrible stats.
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    Smeargle can use a set like this but can get KOed if not used right.

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    IIRC, Poliwrath gets Mind Reader/Fissure. Or is that G/S/C?

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    1HKO moves shouldn't be relied on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K-os View Post
    1HKO moves shouldn't be relied on.
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    damn right!

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    These kinds of moves are fun against human trainers on Smeargle. Something like,

    -Mind Reader
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    Spore, and use Mind Reader, the human opponent will switch, Pursuit on the switch. Fun, fun, fun. Next turn you do the same, Spore, and then Mind Reader, the opponent thinks he won't fall for the trick again and doesn't switch, Sheer Cold. OHKO. Fun, fun, fun. Just use Pusuit and Sheer Cold randomly after Mind Reader after this.
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    It works but its just too predicable, you may pull it off once but no one would fall for it a second time. And as for the possibility of the 2x battle using mean look, idk about you but when someone uses that I have BOTHof my Pokémon nuke the Pokémon who mean looked. (mostly because I find it annoying). So although it is possible to set it up even with smeargle, anyone with a brain would see straight though the strategy and kill the threat before it ever got off the ground!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekul the Sarcastic View Post
    IIRC, Poliwrath gets Mind Reader/Fissure. Or is that G/S/C?
    Poliwrath can only have Mind Reader/Fissure on G/S/C because there isn't a TM on R/S/Fr/Lg/E to teach Fissure to it, nor can Fissure be egg moved (poliwag can't learn fissure). Articuno, with its Mind reader/Sheer Cold, and Smergle, with Lock-on or Mind reader plus a 1KO move is the only way about 1KO combos on R/S/Fr/Lg/E. I know because I have done this myself on both generations, and I've looked. The technique is cheap, but useful in the games.
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    My old friend had a Smeargle who knew Mean Look, Lock-on, Sheer Cold, and Guillotine. It always wipes out my Pokemon if I can't react fast enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekul the Sarcastic View Post
    IIRC, Poliwrath gets Mind Reader/Fissure. Or is that G/S/C?

    I'm confuddled.

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    Problem A: They switch once you've Spored them. >_>

    Problem B: They have a Skarmory.
    Or you can spiderweb them first then spore them. But as i said anything can take this set out if not used at the right time.
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    Smeargle can't take a hit. I would use Umbreon.

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    They are frowned upon in almost all competitive play. Although if you are using them use Chaosbreon like Infinity said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theneedleman View Post
    They are frowned upon in almost all competitive play. Although if you are using them use Chaosbreon like Infinity said.
    This sort of strategy is far less annoying than something like destiny bond in my opinion.

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    i dont thing so..i think that using lock on u will be more sure that sheer cold will work..
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    ^ Both Mind Reader and Lock-On are the same, they guarantee a hit in the next turn.

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