The Grass Menagerie! (505)

[uber gon]

So if Staravia lose he's a bad pokemon and if he wins he's a bad pokemon too? Turtwig couldn't even handle Cherubi. Staravia lost without even getting a hit. He's a nice battler and I loved all that he did. Going high in the sky to dodge the Magical Leaf and then beating Cherubi's *** with his amazing Quick Attack. Everyone was great in this episode and even that Turtwig is not my favorite I have to agree that he was great.

Aipom stole my heart and becomes one of my favorite Ash's pokemon with Staravia, Swellow and Sceptile.

I hate the Underground in the games but I guess is nice that they presented it in this episode.

And I totally agree, the sky was too blue, Turtwig was too green and the grass too.

Let's hope the next gym is just as good.

[cassius335]

Loved the Aipom vs Roserade battle. So THAT was Grass Knot? Interesting. Pity Nozomi wasn't around to see the Speed Star Circle Combination Crash in action.

Wonder if Aipom's going to get Screech and/or Agility. They're next on her Lvl up list.

[Maestro Kinético]

And how, exactly, were they cheap? I know that taking a dump on nearly every episode under the sun is apparantly the equivelent to some sort of passionate love affair for you, but the majority of the time your criticisms are far too random.

I don't understand what you said about the sun O.O

I think that the Naetle battle wqas cheap because whilst Mukkubird got KOed by a leech seed Naetle stayed strong even if it had battled before. The same goes with the bird loosing to a grass Pokemon, that tree thing was cheap.

Of course this are my opinions.

[Knight_Ram]

Sorry about my stupid post from before, that was extremely stupid of me!

Ummm, from what I saw on the site. This episode seemed like a great battle between Ash and the leader!

Aipom should have at least moved up a level after defeating Roserade!!
Great to see that he didn't have to depend on Pikachu to win him a match.
The Turtwig rematch was an ok one to see from the pictures, kind of confused me on what one was the victor though. Other than that, great battle!! 8.3/10

Hope to post again about the Dub version.

[Korobooshi Kojiro]

I don't understand what you said about the sun O.O

Like Cherubi, when you're under the sun it powers you up and allows you to dodge flames.

Or, basically Gravy is commenting on how the random complaining of episodes apparently is your job or something.

[Mythic Mist]

I loved that the Underground made it's appearance in the anime. Underground Man is quite the con-artist. >_>

[Korobooshi Kojiro]

Nah, I don't think that was Underground Man who gives you the gear in the games (and also, according to someone I believe in Sunnyshore, mentions he's related to Roark and Byron...probably the grandad), but one of those miners who sell you stuff.

[n@nd0]

I think gardenia was jelous when she lost, i mean, she often have a cheerful attitude but when she lost she had a face of...she was happy but not

[uber gon]

Loved the Aipom vs Roserade battle. So THAT was Grass Knot? Interesting. Pity Nozomi wasn't around to see the Speed Star Circle Combination Crash in action.

Wonder if Aipom's going to get Screech and/or Agility. They're next on her Lvl up list.

How did Aipom do that swirling SWIFT thing?

[Geodude]

yet Gardenia had to recall it before since it couldn't stand up to a single razor leaf?

That obviously wasn't the point of sending it out. She was using it to gauge the strength of Ash's Turtwig before sending out her own to battle it. Why else would she give it absolutely no commands?

[Snorkle]

Stupid computer acting up again...anyways...

Yay, Mukkubird gets some spotlight! About time. Kind of stinks that they had it battle only Solar-Beam-happy-Cherubi, but even so, it was pretty darn cool. Like when it flew up high to dodge Magical Leaf and all that (I'm surprised it didn't get light-headed at such altitudes. Well, its used to it on a daily basis, so...). Would have wanted more showtime for him, but ah well. Better than nothing.

Turtwig vs. Turtwig was a given. Though I found it funny how Natane's got stuck in the tree when it was up against Mukkubird. This battle was pretty good. Nothing incredible, but good.

Yesss! Aipom instead of Pikachu? Thank God! The little ape deserves a win for being such a most non-uber Pokemon. And after that entrance, my liking for Aipom has gone way up. And those Contest-techniques were pretty cool too. As for Roserade? I'm glad it got decent animation. ^^ But...crashing through a tree and literally slicing it by the trunk after being hit by Focus Punch was a tad unbelievable. Just a tad~

[Gravy]

I think that the Naetle battle wqas cheap because whilst Mukkubird got KOed by a leech seed Naetle stayed strong even if it had battled before. The same goes with the bird loosing to a grass Pokemon, that tree thing was cheap.

Of course this are my opinions.

If you were paying any attention, Muku.BIRD wasn't KO'd by the Leech Seed, and it was inf act the combination of both that and a Tackle attack by Gardenia's Turtwig that finished the job.
Second (and this is the most important factor), Ash's Turtwig began to use Synthesis as soon as the Leech Seed began to take effect, meaning it was restoring it's own health the entire time. Compare this to Muku.BIRD, who has no such luxury. Gardenia's Turtwig used Leaf Storm, but the attack missed, so Ash's Turtwig managed to regain even more of it's health, essentially negating the Leech Seed's effect. By this point, Gardenia's Turtwig had taken a large amount of damage, and it was the pokémon in the most danger. It's also worth mentioning that the damage Ash's Turtwig received from the final Tackle attack used against it caused a significant amount of damage, possibly just as much damage as Muku.BIRD had sustained.
Turtwig and Muku.BIRD took the same amount of hits, but Turtwig restored it's health half-way through the battle. I don't understand how this is cheap - please explain. The way you present your argument makes it sound as if you didn't even watch the episode, as you're missing key points that go against your claims.

As for the 'tree thing', I have no idea what you're refering to. If you're talking about the characters crashing into the trees and such...so what? The battlefield was full of them. It's no different from characters crashing into walls or falling out the ring, which has been happening since day one.

And you've yet to explain how the Cherubi battle was cheap. It used the battle conditions to it's advantage (with it's ability Chlorophyll and the fact that Solar Beam can be used like a regular attack in strong sunlight), so what exactly was cheap about that? If you're thinking of the last battle it had against Ash's pokémon, that was clearly just a test to gauge Ash's strength, as Geodude already explained.
Or if it's the fact that Magical Leaf wasn't 100% accurate, that's silly, because moves of this nature often miss their target in the show, and (again) it's been that way since the series first started.

Having an opinion is fine and all, but generally, it's required that you at least get your facts straight before you try to judge something.

[uber gon]

How did Aipom do that swirling SWIFT thing?

I still would like an explaination here.

[Geodude]

So would we. What do you mean by that? I know what you're referring to, but what exactly do you want explained?

[uber gon]

So would we. What do you mean by that? I know what you're referring to, but what exactly do you want explained?

How does Aipom get her stars to surround Roserade. Was Focus Punch involved?

[Seijiro Mafuné]

I think that Aipom is able to manipulate her attack to do things it normally can't, when it's in a Contest mentality (like then). Enough, at least, that it could defy physics and actually work out well.

Either that or a wizard did it.

[Geodude]

How does Aipom get her stars to surround Roserade. Was Focus Punch involved?

No, but it did use Focus Punch after to send one star into the circle, knocking them all into Roserade.

[Mythic Mist]

Wait, who animated this? Iwane, or Shimura?

[uber gon]

No, but it did use Focus Punch after to send one star into the circle, knocking them all into Roserade.

Cool. Paul better watch out for that one.

[-Starly-]

I think that Aipom is able to manipulate her attack to do things it normally can't, when it's in a Contest mentality (like then). Enough, at least, that it could defy physics and actually work out well.

Either that or a wizard did it.

Obviously the wizard.

Wait, who animated this? Iwane, or Shimura?

IIRC, Shimura.

Frankly (and ignoring a certain someone who thought the battles were cheap), I enjoyed the entire battle. From MUKU.BIRD. rocketing vertically to dodge the Magical Leaf, to Turtwig owning Gardenia's Turtwig even when Leech Seeded(which I'm sure the Pokémon games-only elitists are *****ing about), to Aipom using DT to get past Grass Knot, to the finale of Aipom's circling Swift hitting Roserade, the entire episode was full of win. Shame that Iwane didn't do this episode.