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    Quote Originally Posted by waffle_x_v View Post
    Just seeing kenpachi get his ***** kicked like that proves he's not one of the "top captains" like everyone thinks. He's way too overrated, I think everyone can finally know that now.
    That he is not one of the Top Captains is quite obvious, only his fans believe in such thing.

    But as Ver-mont said, losing to the furher does not means much. If anything, Kubo only proved that Kenpachi can be a pain in the butt of his enemies, since he was considered one of the "war potentials", like Ichigo. By the way, I believe he is considered one of these because as Ichigo, he cannot have his Bankai stolen to be weakened, since he does not have one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waffle_x_v View Post
    Just seeing kenpachi get his ***** kicked like that proves he's not one of the "top captains" like everyone thinks. He's way too overrated, I think everyone can finally know that now.
    The newest novels really made me think that he was unstoppable, but it seems Kubo has heard the fan complaints and has "fixed" Kenpachi. I think it's for the best.

    Anyway since the Captains are motivated again, this probably doesn't bode well for Squad Zero; the current Captains will probably beat the Stern Ritters without their help.

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    Am I the only one who does not give a sh*t about the Royal Squad?

    All I want to see is Kubo developing the current undeveloped characters (aka Shunsui, Ukitake, Unohana, Genryuusai, Shinji, Rose, Kensei, Urahara, etc).

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    I think it'd be a interesting twist if SS beat the SR w/o the royal guard. Seeing the SR regroup and become twice as deadly would be pretty nice, then it would be appropriate to send in the royal guard..
    I agree w/the above post, there's no point in adding new characters when there are already pre-developed ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 4th Kira View Post
    Anyway since the Captains are motivated again, this probably doesn't bode well for Squad Zero; the current Captains will probably beat the Stern Ritters without their help.
    I honestly hope Kubo won't make Soul Society suddenly turn the tables now because they're motivated again. It would be very cheap, considering the Vandenreich was dominating the entire battle up to now, having killed hundreds of shinigami and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 4th Kira View Post
    Anyway since the Captains are motivated again, this probably doesn't bode well for Squad Zero; the current Captains will probably beat the Stern Ritters without their help.
    Not really. They still don't know how to counter the medal thingy, and then the SR also have that Letz Stil technique up their sleeve.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ver-mont View Post
    I honestly hope Kubo won't make Soul Society suddenly turn the tables now because they're motivated again. It would be very cheap, considering the Vandenreich was dominating the entire battle up to now, having killed hundreds of shinigami and all.
    Before this it was foot soldiers though, not Captain-class Shinigami.
    You could probably compare the SR to be Captains and the normal shinigami as hollows. And the Captains as Arrancars.


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    If Bach defeats Yama all the Captains are going to lose their resolve.. that's why they need to try to take out their opponents before that happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    If Bach defeats Yama all the Captains are going to lose their resolve.. that's why they need to try to take out their opponents before that happens.
    How on earth will they win without bankai, though? Yama was able to beat Driscoll with only his shikai, but that's not surprising since he's so incredibly powerful. The same cannot be said about all the Captains, though. I think Komamura is probably the weakest Captain and has always had to use bankai. Even Toshiro is completely reliant on bankai.

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    Komamura and Hitsugaya will probably lose, since both of them rely so much on their Bankai powers. Shinji, Rose and Kensei have big chances to win IMO, since they do not need to rely on their shinigami powers (And even if they do, I think the Vandenreich cannot steal their Bankai, like they cannot steal Ichigo's). Shunsui and Ukikate may also win, like Shunsui defeated Coyote Starrk using only his Shikai. Sui Feng is also very deadly without needing her Jakuho Raikoben.

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    I don't think Unohana will do all that bad either. Apparently she is supposed to get a fight soon and rumors is she is the strongest female captain. Though we have never seen her actually fight so we don't know.

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    I just remembered something..do you guys remember that "The Gotei 13 repeat and reboot wrap up?" Kubo said that Shunsui would use his Bankai this arc clearly he's not stupid enough to use it right now since it'll just get stolen and since it seems that he has a resolve boost right now. That means he's either going to escape somehow or defeat his opponent I'm leaning towards the "defeat his opponent' side as for Ukitake Kubo said that "He is still ill, but he will recover" so I guess that means Ukitake will either win/survive his fight as well given that Kubo said he'd be cured of his illness later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    I just remembered something..do you guys remember that "The Gotei 13 repeat and reboot wrap up?" Kubo said that Shunsui would use his Bankai this arc clearly he's not stupid enough to use it right now since it'll just get stolen and since it seems that he has a resolve boost right now. That means he's either going to escape somehow or defeat his opponent I'm leaning towards the "defeat his opponent' side as for Ukitake Kubo said that "He is still ill, but he will recover" so I guess that means Ukitake will either win/survive his fight as well given that Kubo said he'd be cured of his illness later on.
    I don't know what that "repeat and reboot" thing is, but I don't think any of the Captains will die, with the exception of Yama and Byakuya. I honestly see Kubo pulling a Kishi by reviving Byakuya if he really is dead. He's just too popular to remain dead, and we all know how many death threats Kubo received for "killing" him a couple of months ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 4th Kira View Post
    I don't know what that "repeat and reboot" thing is, but I don't think any of the Captains will die, with the exception of Yama and Byakuya. I honestly see Kubo pulling a Kishi by reviving Byakuya if he really is dead. He's just too popular to remain dead, and we all know how many death threats Kubo received for "killing" him a couple of months ago.
    Yamamoto

    Yamamoto has become softer
    He is still without his left arm
    Though he has not changed physically, he does have some inner changes.

    Sui-Feng

    Her hair is shorter and straight now
    Her arm was restored due to new technology in the Gotei 13.

    Rose

    His look is modeled after an English gentleman
    Kubo chose to re-add Rose to the Third Division because he and Kira are well suited for each other

    Kira

    Kubo says he feels his bankai would be a little nauseating

    Unohana

    Unohana will fight in the upcoming arc
    The true form of her Zanpakuto will be seen
    When she fights, she unravels her braid

    Shinji

    Shinji's bangs have changed since his hair would not grow that much in 17 months
    Kubo would like to draw how Shinji and Momo have developed a trusting relationship.

    Byakuya

    Byakuya no longer wears a kenseikan

    Renji

    Renji has grown stronger
    He is not quite at Aizen level yet.
    His Bankai has changed
    Renji stopped wearing goggles and switched to a towel so they would not break in battle.

    Komamura

    His armor has changed

    Shunsui

    The "history" of his pink Haori will be revealed
    He will use Bankai in this arc

    Kensei

    Kensei is captain again with Hisgai, who looks up to him, as his lieutenant.

    Hitsugaya

    Despite insisting that he grew taller in a volume 53 sketch, he has not grown taller (Kubo laughs)
    His Bankai has been completed
    The chain on his Zanpakuto has changed

    Rangiku

    Rangiku's past will be a key to the story.

    Kenpachi

    He has not learned the name of his Zanpakuto yet
    Kubo wants to draw his becoming a captain but says it would be difficult as it would disrupt the narrative.

    Yachiru

    Kubo has not even drawn her in a fight yet

    Ikkaku

    He wears a new armor piece with the kanji for dragon on it.

    Yumichika

    Kubo said if he gives a lieutenant a Bankai, he thinks Yumichika would be a good choice.
    Kubo considers him and Ikkaku to be equals in strength

    Mayuri

    Mayuri's research will be the key to this arc.
    Specifically his study on bodies will be the main part of this arc.
    He has a new look
    He has several different "faces" which he could put on at any time.
    Kubo wanted to draw him in the last arc but could not make him appear

    Ukitake

    Ukitake is still ill
    He will recover
    He has undergone a bit of an internal change
    Kubo claims he has no sense of fashion and jokingly said the only change he would ever make is dying his hair.

    Rukia

    Kubo plans on drawing flashbacks of when she was made a Lieutenant and how she felt.
    Sentaro and Kiyone are supportive of her

    Yoruichi

    Kubo wanted to change her looks but thought her current look suits her too well.
    She is permanently exiled from Soul Society along with Urahara
    Her secret past with Urahara will be revealed

    Isshin

    His past with Ryuken will be revealed
    Isshin could not go to Soul Society with Urahara because it would reveal something to the Gotei 13 and thus did not go.

    Ichigo

    Aizen commented that since Ichigo's birth, he has been an extraordinary being, the meaning behind this will be revealed
    Grand Fisher called Ichigo a true blood, the meaning of this will be revealed
    The reason why Ichigo looks so similar to Kaien will come out.
    Ichigo is a Substitute Shinigami again.
    Months before the Lost Substitute Shinigami arc began, Kubo sent a sketch of Ichigo's new Shikai to his publisher.
    The marks around his wrist and neck represent the remnants of his Fullbring merging with his Shinigami powers


    Masaki

    Ichigo and Isshin believe that Masaki died to Grand Fisher, however this may not be true. The truth will be revealed.

    Aizen

    Aizen will return
    Kubo wants to draw him in restraints.

    Visored

    The fate of Hiyori will be revealed
    What became of the other Visored will be revealed

    Zennosuke

    Kubo says he is unemployed (Kubo laughed)

    Royal Guard

    The Royal Guard will appear
    Kubo has already drawn all the members

    Other Stuff

    Kubo says the Soul Society Arc was about Rukia, Arrancar arc was about Orihime and Lost Substitute Arc was about Sado. Based on this, the new arc will likely be about Uryu.
    The new arc will take place in an Ice palace beneath somewhere.
    The palace will be mostly white with blues and silvers in there as well.
    The arc will take place right after the last one
    Grimmjow is alive and might become a friend
    Nel will likely return
    This will be the last arc in Bleach
    Everyone's bloodlines will be revealed
    The Soul King will be revealed
    The villains in this arc are few in number but their numbers will increase.
    Everyone's past will become important.
    The threat in this arc will be so great that it will force the Royal Guard out and be something they have never faced before.
    The new villains have the ability to complete erase a Hollow from existence
    The new villains have been killing Hollows in mass.
    Mayuri knows what is going on.
    Here you go.

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    Alright, most of that is correct, but the 'Grimmjow is alive'-statement seems a bit off in my recollection. Wasn't it just the editor who took a go at the Espada-list and handed out stars to who was most likely to return to the story and gave Grimmjow and Harribel the most stars? Just crossreferencing though, don't mind me..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locormus View Post
    Alright, most of that is correct, but the 'Grimmjow is alive'-statement seems a bit off in my recollection. Wasn't it just the editor who took a go at the Espada-list and handed out stars to who was most likely to return to the story and gave Grimmjow and Harribel the most stars? Just crossreferencing though, don't mind me..
    I don't think so... I remember when those statements were translated, before the final arc began, and I remember that one particularly. It's one of the reasons why I think the person with Urahara is Grimmjow, since Kubo said he would come back for this arc.

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    Wow.

    As Nodt is dead already? Way to make Byakuya's death even more worthless, Kubo.

    And Ikkaku with a mohawk is down as well? He barely did anything!

    Racist-looking guy with the stupid name is down, too? He did even less than Mohawk Ikkaku!

    Oh, and Yamamoto's Bankai is really boring. It feels just like Ichigo's, but I expect with fire powers. But I'll wait till next week to make a full judgement.

    Knowing Kubo, however, my opinion will probably not change.
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    HOLY FUKING SH!T Yama was amazing! Bankai next chapter baby! Hopefully it doesn't get stolen, or it's the end of the world. D:
    I can't believe how easily As noodt died though... o.o
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    LMFAO! As Nodt got one shotted by Yamamoto you can't be serious the mohawk guy did too.

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    As Nodt is dead? Holy crap, Kubo. You don't cease to surprise me.
    I was hoping to see more of the guy and you kill him.

    Why can't I be excited about Genryuusai's Bankai? He will probably be owned in the next chapters.
    Even though Juha Bach made an awful surprise expression... It seems he never saw the general's Bankai.

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    BANKAI!
    yayayayayayayayayayayayayayay

    This really shows us that this is Old Man Yama's last fight.


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