Bleach Manga (many spoilers) discussion

[Joltik-Kid]

Probably. Didn't Kubo say something like revealing Isshin's past in this arc?

Not sure... I'm not good or big on collecting information about interviews and other things

[Durian Seed]

Not sure... I'm not good or big on collecting information about interviews and other things

Well at any rate, I think ppl don't really care at this point xD.

He lost my interest on Isshin when he faked us out, leading us to believe his past would be revealed, and then all he did was push Aizen and nothing much.

[Locormus]

Well at any rate, I think ppl don't really care at this point xD.

He lost my interest on Isshin when he faked us out, leading us to believe his past would be revealed, and then all he did was push Aizen and nothing much.

Eitherway, he still isn't finished! xD

[Ciccone]

I still believe we'll learn more about Isshin, probably halfway through the war though. I figure that the Vandenreich might retreat for a while after Yamamoto dies (which I'm positive will happen at this rate), and then maybe we'll get another Turn Back the Pendulum arc, which I know everyone is excited for since there are still tons of unanswered questions.

[lolipiece]

Goddammit, Kubo!

That wasn't the real Juhabach?

That explains why he was a worthless villain, though...

Aizen would be proud of your trolling.

[waffle_x_v]

Amazing. Yama trampled him.
Time to see the mystery person already.

[JD]

People are saying that the blonde guy is the "real" Juha Bach.

[arceus03]

Hahaha. Another troll.

Looks like Yamamoto cancelled his bankai already.

And North is really... just a simple cut? That's kind of lame.

[Ver-mont]

People are saying that the blonde guy is the "real" Juha Bach.

I've heard that too. But wouldn't Yamamoto recognize him? Unless he changed his appearance and the "fake" Juhabach is using Juhabach's appearance from the past.

[TsukiMirage]

Wow, wasn't expecting Bach to actually lose. Well, I guess he lost, but he could very well turn it around I guess. Anyway, I like how Yamamoto pointed out the restrictions on stealing Bankai, though I would think that would mean Renji and Ikkaku should also be safe. And that ending kind of confused me. I though it was the white guy reacting to Bach's last words, but I guess it could have been "Bach" saying it himself. Anyway, real good chapter.

[lolipiece]

Hahaha. Another troll.

Looks like Yamamoto cancelled his bankai already.

And North is really... just a simple cut? That's kind of lame.

People interpreted it as a heat wave. Which makes it invisible.

[arceus03]

People interpreted it as a heat wave. Which makes it invisible.

Oh... Didn't notice Yama was standing far away. Huh.

[The Great Butler]

Hahahahahahaa oh dear God I can't stop laughing.

Watch the real Juha Bach be Uryu. Just watch.

[arceus03]

Hahahahahahaa oh dear God I can't stop laughing.

Watch the real Juha Bach be Uryu. Just watch.

There's no way Uryu is 1000 years old. lol. That, or the fact that Yama did not recognize him when he first came to SS.

Maybe Ryuken. *shrug*

[The Great Butler]

There's no way Uryu is 1000 years old. lol. That, or the fact that Yama did not recognize him when he first came to SS.

This is Kubo, who needs continuity? Maybe he aged backwards or something. Kirge did make that weird comment about his powers a while ago...

Perhaps Juha Bach/Juhabach is actually a title?

[dewey911p]

Wouldn't it be cool if Yamamoto just slaughter Aizen when Aizen was using kyoka Suigetsu like he did to imitate Momo? Aizen is suppose to make a comeback, and he has the ability to pull off a switch like this without being noticed.

Speaking of Aizen, what the hell was Yamamoto doing when he fought Aizen and didn't use his Bankai? Sure WW would have sealed it, but it seems like Yama could have used his bankai from the start and save the captains a beating. Obviously that would have ruined the point of Kubo's story and all, but what the hell?

Digression aside, Juha Bach clearly had nothing to stand up to Yamamoto and so he needed to draw out Yamamoto's bankai, if that wasn't really the enemy leader (yet he still beat Kenpachi with no effort) Yamamoto unveiled his true powers to a fake. Next chapter, the real Juha Bach pops out of the ground and seals Yamamoto's bankai, kills him, brings him back to life, and thus the royal guard and Ichigo become relevant again.

Just some speculations from a fan, but this sure is one hell of an arc, so much so it makes up for that boring and anti-climatic fullbringer arc we endured =)

[PokeMaster366]

Wouldn't it be cool if Yamamoto just slaughter Aizen when Aizen was using kyoka Suigetsu like he did to imitate Momo? Aizen is suppose to make a comeback, and he has the ability to pull off a switch like this without being noticed.

Speaking of Aizen, what the hell was Yamamoto doing when he fought Aizen and didn't use his Bankai? Sure WW would have sealed it, but it seems like Yama could have used his bankai from the start and save the captains a beating. Obviously that would have ruined the point of Kubo's story and all, but what the hell?

Digression aside, Juha Bach clearly had nothing to stand up to Yamamoto and so he needed to draw out Yamamoto's bankai, if that wasn't really the enemy leader (yet he still beat Kenpachi with no effort) Yamamoto unveiled his true powers to a fake. Next chapter, the real Juha Bach pops out of the ground and seals Yamamoto's bankai, kills him, brings him back to life, and thus the royal guard and Ichigo become relevant again.

Just some speculations from a fan, but this sure is one hell of an arc, so much so it makes up for that boring and anti-climatic fullbringer arc we endured =)

Well, if Yamamoto simply went Bankai at first glance and killed everyone, what would that be teaching. The old man has been living for more than a millenium, so I wouldn't doubt that he's been in his fair share of near-death experiences and acknowledges his own mortality. The younglings need to learn how to handle messes on their own, otherwise, Soul Society really would collapse after he's gone. An example of this will be Rukia and Renji if Byakuya stays dead. Someone needs to watch over 6th company as well as the Kuchiki clan.

[arceus03]

Well, if Yamamoto simply went Bankai at first glance and killed everyone, what would that be teaching. The old man has been living for more than a millenium, so I wouldn't doubt that he's been in his fair share of near-death experiences and acknowledges his own mortality. The younglings need to learn how to handle messes on their own, otherwise, Soul Society really would collapse after he's gone. An example of this will be Rukia and Renji if Byakuya stays dead. Someone needs to watch over 6th company as well as the Kuchiki clan.

He was willing to sac the Captains though, as he stated when he activated Ennetsu Jigoku. I think the thing that kept him from going bankai at that time was probably the effect it might had on the living world, since only a portion of SS was transferred at that time, or it might affect the pillars. Or something to that reason.

Then again, plotholes. :P I mean, all the other Captains also had the chance to go bankai; Rose, Love, Shinji, Shunsui, Ukitake.

And Sasakibe.

But none did.

[multi-scale]

This is complete bull, now Yama's bankai is getting stolen and we're going to get an Ichigo training montage and watch him defeat the strongest bankai in the history of SS with his own bankai, which has yet to have a clear purpose. A good twist though, and Yama's bankai has made this possibly the best 3-5 chapters in the history of Bleach.

[Shadow Lucario]

So if they can only steal Bankai that have reached their full potential, why was Daiguren Hyorinmaru stolen? Hitsugaya is still a kid and hasn't obviously reached his cap. Maybe I interpreted it wrong...