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    I never understood Electric super effectiveness on Flying type cause electricity don't affect flying things as there is no flow of electrons.
    But Electric not very effective on grass was explained in Anime as grass types transmit all the electricity into the ground and so resist electric type moves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sceptile lover View Post
    But Electric not very effective on grass was explained in Anime as grass types transmit all the electricity into the ground and so resist electric type moves.
    Okay, that sounds more scientifically sound. I was trying to remember that and I actually remember the episode they explained it in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will-powered Spriter View Post
    Psychic over poison is the plaebo effect. If the brain believes it will get better, it is a lot more likely to, so people given tablets made of nothing but sugar will often get better if they do not realise it was not a realt tablet. It doesn't quite explain why it's super-effective, but it certainly explains resistance. perhaps super effectivity is due to high levels of intellect creating science, creating cures?

    Steel resisting dragon is probably for gameplay nescesity, but if dragon is thought of as olden, and steel as modern, it makes more sense. Ghost, Psychic and Dark are also superstitious, old ideas. That and steel resists nearly everything.

    Electricity on ground and flying is probably because electricity is known to target higher up objects and not lower down ones, but it's less well known you need to be touchuing the ground for lightning to effect, so they ignored that.
    Actually the psychic type is all about Psychokinesis,psychic predictions,visions & stuff like that.And some psychics have the ability to heal thus they can remove poison thus being super effective on Poison types^^
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    Also,psychics are usually very sensitive to the emotions of others & negative emotions can make them feel very bad & Dark type attacks are usually based on negative emotions/actions so it really affects Psychic types.
    Some psychics can sense the presence of spirits,those spirits actually being attracted to the psychics so this is how Ghost is super effective on Psychic.
    As for bugs...I guess they are just annoying & scary,

    Steel types resist so many types cuz they are just armored'__' & not many stuff can penetrate that armor...Fire can melt metal,Fighting type moves require great physical strenght that can affect even metal,& ground moves...I guess an earthquake can destroy even a building with a steel foundation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sceptile lover View Post
    I never understood Electric super effectiveness on Flying type cause electricity don't affect flying things as there is no flow of electrons.
    Electricity (or lightning in this case) can kill a flying bird if it's raining. Lightning always takes the shortest route that is grounded, but if somehow a lightning strikes a bird, and even though the bird won't conduct electricity per se since it's not grounded, the rain water will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sceptile lover View Post
    I never understood Electric super effectiveness on Flying type cause electricity don't affect flying things as there is no flow of electrons.
    Ever wondered WHY airlines don't fly during storms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacialrend View Post
    Ever wondered WHY airlines don't fly during storms?
    Thats not the case actually. There is a difference between Electric Shock or bolt and Lightning. Lighting is a impulse, immense power in short time, thats why it is dangerous but when it comes to electric shocks I don't think thats the case.

    @Poizonsting: Its not always raining in Pokemon world so as make the bird weak to electricity. But you still gave us the best explanation on this matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sceptile lover View Post
    I never understood Electric super effectiveness on Flying type cause electricity don't affect flying things as there is no flow of electrons.
    But Electric not very effective on grass was explained in Anime as grass types transmit all the electricity into the ground and so resist electric type moves.
    Remember the episode when Ash beat Falkner & it told Pikachu to use Thunderbold or Thunder on Pidgeot & the Thunderbold stopped[cuz Pikachu was tired] almost when it hit Pidgeot>I think that's one of the stupidest things ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sceptile lover View Post
    But Electric not very effective on grass was explained in Anime as grass types transmit all the electricity into the ground and so resist electric type moves.
    The funny thing is that that actually makes the plants more vulnerable to electricity. Static electricity is pretty much harmless. It is the flow of electrons that causes the harm. Because the plants are able to transmit the electricity into the ground, they actually are vulnerable to electricity.

    And again, nothing grounded will enjoy being struck by lightning during rain either. If you actually get struck by lightning, it doesn't matter if you are flying or standing on the ground. It is just that when you are flying there is a smaller chance of you getting struck by lightning.
    And the reason airplanes don't fly during thunderstorms is because of the strong magnetic fields that get released during lightning. An airplane is a Faraday cage, it redirects all the lightning through its metal shell and nothing gets damaged. But the heavy magnetic fields disrupt all the sensitive instruments on board, making it very unsave to fly. It is also a "better save than sorry" measure. If they make it through the thunderstorm unharmed 99% of the time, that 1% is still a large enough risk to cancel all flights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nacreous View Post
    on Psychic.
    As for bugs...I guess they are just annoying & scary,
    I think because bugs represent a general area of fears and phobias for people, they generate agitation and sadness in a psychic. Spiders are really good at this.

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    r u forgetting ice on water?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chosen_one386 View Post
    I think because bugs represent a general area of fears and phobias for people, they generate agitation and sadness in a psychic. Spiders are really good at this.
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    Bug is a rather general term. In fact, spiders are of class Arachnida and are commonly mistaken as insects
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    I always thought some of the weaknesses were weird, as well as resistances, but I tried my best once to justify them all, so:

    Ice beats Dragon because I assumed ice has the capacity to freeze and drive extinct many things (a reference to dinosaurs mainly. Fighting beats Rock, Ice, and Steel because all of those can be broken with enough physical force. Psychic beats Fighting because supposedly brute force cannot win against intellect. Dark beats Psychic because the mind is afraid of what the eye cannot see, and it is difficult to defend yourself in darkness (hence, Miracle Eye became the move to hit Dark Pokemon with Psychic moves). And, since darkness has nothing to fear from thought, it's immune. Fighting beats Dark because, if you keep swinging, you'll eventually hit something. Bug beats Psychic because of the distraction bugs pose to thought. Bug beats Dark because there are so few insects that'll be impeded by darkness. Ghost beats Psychic because an existing ghost defies logical thought, and is just plain scary; so fear takes over reason. Flying beats Fighting because attacks from above are normally more effective against grounded enemies. Ground is immune to Electric because electrical circuits should always have a ground, or an escape point for excess current. That being said, the Earth is actually our largest ground. Grass is resistant to Electric because plants are also part of the earth, and so tend to not be in danger of electricity as many other things. Steel is resistant to many things, but the immunity from Poison is because you cannot poison that which isn't alive. Ground, in turn, beats Steel because earthquakes take down buildings all the time. Poison resists Fighting because you can't physically fight away a disease. But, Pssychic beats Poison because willpower is supposed to be stronger than any illness, and you can feel fine if you will it to be that way. Rock beats Ice because you can break ice with rocks (normally). And Steel beats them both for that same reason. Flying beats Grass because plants and berries and seeds and such are sustenance for birds. Same goes for bugs. Ice beats Ground because of permafrost and tundra and all that good stuff haha. So yeah, I think I tackled some of the heavy stuff. Hope it's a good explanation.

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    Why does Dark beat Psychic?


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    Ice beats Dragon because I assumed ice has the capacity to freeze and drive extinct many things (a reference to dinosaurs mainly.
    I think it's because Dragon types are cold blooded
    Why does Dark beat Psychic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by poizonsting View Post
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    Bug is a rather general term. In fact, spiders are of class Arachnida and are commonly mistaken as insects
    True.

    I guess they covered the spider spectrum by adding poison to Spinarak's and Ariados' typings...

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    Why does Dark beat Psychic?
    As stated before, Dark causes bad feelings that make psychic's depressed...or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacialrend View Post
    Ever wondered WHY airlines don't fly during storms?
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    And again, nothing grounded will enjoy being struck by lightning during rain either. If you actually get struck by lightning, it doesn't matter if you are flying or standing on the ground. It is just that when you are flying there is a smaller chance of you getting struck by lightning.
    And the reason airplanes don't fly during thunderstorms is because of the strong magnetic fields that get released during lightning. An airplane is a Faraday cage, it redirects all the lightning through its metal shell and nothing gets damaged. But the heavy magnetic fields disrupt all the sensitive instruments on board, making it very unsave to fly. It is also a "better save than sorry" measure. If they make it through the thunderstorm unharmed 99% of the time, that 1% is still a large enough risk to cancel all flights.
    Guess Spacialrend's question has been answered by jellsprout. But looking at his post I found out why Flying type is weak to Electric moves.

    Common substances are divided into three type depending on their conduction of electricity - Conductor, Insulator and Semi Conductor.
    Now here is some basic concept of current electricity that explains why electric moves are super effective on flying types.
    1. Insulator don't conduct electricity in normal conditions i.e. in low voltage stage. But if we keep on increasing the current a state is reached where the insulator become a conductor and its transmits electricity through it(mostly it melts too). Thats why after certain state each type except Ground Type will be heavily damaged by Electric Moves.
    2. Objects in air can't be hurt by electric moves but if they are close to earth surface and a severe electric shock is given to them they get hurt badly. It should be kept in mind that if the object is at quite a distance from the earth it will most likely won't get hurt. Now take a case of Starly flying at 50 feet and then it is struck by Thunder. It will get hurt but if the same Starly at same height is struck with weak moves like Thunder Shock it won't get hurt. But this powerful attack being super effective on birds will make things a lot complicated so they made the whole Electric Type moves super effective on Flying Type.

    Above explanation doesn't explains why Gligar family aren't affected by Electric moves when they are in air and have no source of earthing. But maybe their body is the source itself(Ground type).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerech View Post
    I always thought some of the weaknesses were weird, as well as resistances, but I tried my best once to justify them all, so:

    Ice beats Dragon because I assumed ice has the capacity to freeze and drive extinct many things (a reference to dinosaurs mainly. Fighting beats Rock, Ice, and Steel because all of those can be broken with enough physical force. Psychic beats Fighting because supposedly brute force cannot win against intellect. Dark beats Psychic because the mind is afraid of what the eye cannot see, and it is difficult to defend yourself in darkness (hence, Miracle Eye became the move to hit Dark Pokemon with Psychic moves). And, since darkness has nothing to fear from thought, it's immune. Fighting beats Dark because, if you keep swinging, you'll eventually hit something. Bug beats Psychic because of the distraction bugs pose to thought. Bug beats Dark because there are so few insects that'll be impeded by darkness. Ghost beats Psychic because an existing ghost defies logical thought, and is just plain scary; so fear takes over reason. Flying beats Fighting because attacks from above are normally more effective against grounded enemies. Ground is immune to Electric because electrical circuits should always have a ground, or an escape point for excess current. That being said, the Earth is actually our largest ground. Grass is resistant to Electric because plants are also part of the earth, and so tend to not be in danger of electricity as many other things. Steel is resistant to many things, but the immunity from Poison is because you cannot poison that which isn't alive. Ground, in turn, beats Steel because earthquakes take down buildings all the time. Poison resists Fighting because you can't physically fight away a disease. But, Pssychic beats Poison because willpower is supposed to be stronger than any illness, and you can feel fine if you will it to be that way. Rock beats Ice because you can break ice with rocks (normally). And Steel beats them both for that same reason. Flying beats Grass because plants and berries and seeds and such are sustenance for birds. Same goes for bugs. Ice beats Ground because of permafrost and tundra and all that good stuff haha. So yeah, I think I tackled some of the heavy stuff. Hope it's a good explanation.
    I find that quote awesome. :bd I didn't get the fighting beats dark part. But all in all, well explained.
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    I find that quote awesome. :bd I didn't get the fighting beats dark part. But all in all, well explained.
    Because good fighting techniques beat the dirty tactics or Dark types

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nacreous View Post
    Because good fighting techniques beat the dirty tactics or Dark types
    Oh, I see. Good point. IMO, dirty tactics can beat good fighting techniques. In reality, I guess. LMAO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poizonsting View Post
    :O

    Bug is a rather general term. In fact, spiders are of class Arachnida and are commonly mistaken as insects
    Also, scientifically, bugs are usually limited to those that bite and annoy. Which includes spiders.

    And fighting>dark is also because honorable fighting is respected far more than dirty tactics, which is often looked down upon and doesn't suggest a show of true skill and strength. even if you win with dirty tricks, chances are, you won't be acknowledged for your win.
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    Here is my theory on Psychic's weaknesses (sorry if this has already been said)

    Psychic powers rely on using the powers of the Mind to be telekinetic/ have slight reality bending abilities, etc. My point is that the mind is what makes these powers possible.

    Now notice the weaknesses of Psychic: Ghosts, dark, and bug.

    Think about it for a second, what do these types have in common? From an outside view, nothing much. But what comes to your mind when you think about all these things in real life?

    Their relationship? They are all phobias. Things that are normally harmless (or non-existant), but are made out to be scary because of paranoia that exists in all of our minds. Ghosts seem creepy and chilling to those who believe, many children (and some adults) are afraid of the dark, and many people have specific phobias about bugs. So these types are [Super effective!] in pokemon because they have a [super effective] impact on the psychological workings of our minds.

    Thats just my two cents anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraDoots View Post
    Here is my theory on Psychic's weaknesses (sorry if this has already been said)

    Psychic powers rely on using the powers of the Mind to be telekinetic/ have slight reality bending abilities, etc. My point is that the mind is what makes these powers possible.

    Now notice the weaknesses of Psychic: Ghosts, dark, and bug.

    Think about it for a second, what do these types have in common? From an outside view, nothing much. But what comes to your mind when you think about all these things in real life?

    Their relationship? They are all phobias. Things that are normally harmless (or non-existant), but are made out to be scary because of paranoia that exists in all of our minds. Ghosts seem creepy and chilling to those who believe, many children (and some adults) are afraid of the dark, and many people have specific phobias about bugs. So these types are [Super effective!] in pokemon because they have a [super effective] impact on the psychological workings of our minds.

    Thats just my two cents anyway.
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    Nacreous does have a point.
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