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    Well, in her P-form, she's Fighting. She's also on the ground, and ready to fight at that point. She also looks like a Fightonf type when in P-form. In Aria form, she's just psychic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iliekmudkipz View Post
    "Whiscash is based on Namazu, a catfish in Japanese mythology which caused earthquake."
    This is why.
    Oh thanks mudkipz Also Braviary looked like a Fighting/Flying to me before I knew its typing. Thought it was a bird who fights valiantly as in a brave soldier protecting his country buts thats me.
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    Same here! Though it was fighting..

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    One thing to note for this topic....

    For pokemon with 2 types, the first type is the more important and prominent type, while the second type is more like an extra or additional type.

    The infamous example of this are Sableye and Spiritomb.
    If you thought these were the same type...check again. Yes they are, but they are also different, as in the type order is different:
    Sableye is Dark/Ghost, meaning its more sneaky than abnormal,
    while Spiritomb is Ghost/Dark, so its much more ghost-like than it focuses on shady strategies.

    Or for types like Rock, often the use in the design is different depending on if its primary or secondary, so right away in generation I, you have many Rock and Ground combinations.
    However, while Geodude and Onix are Rock/Ground, Rhyhorn is Ground/Rock. The reason being that the former are both literally mineral-based on a biological level, while the Rhyhorn-line is a mammal underneath a rock-hard armor. Which is similar to Wormadam. A Bug-pokemon that is covered with all sorts of stuff, or Magcargo being made of lava but having a rocky shell on top and so on.

    And of course not all types are as obvious in the design alone as Rock. The perfect example being...Ground! Bar making a pokemon appear to drown in sand (Hippowdon), it is rarely clear from just looking at it.

    Sometimes, the type may not be guessable at all, unless you do some research on the pokemons background/origin, after which it usually makes perfect sense.


    Also, Normal is essentially the default type, meaning no specialization.
    Which is why some pokemon like Meloetta discussed above, shouldn't be thought of as a fully fledged psychic and fighting type, since those are the extra types, while it does not actually fully utilize any particular type. In other words, the Normal as the first type tells us that it does not employ the Psychic and Fighting type deep enough to warrant being just those in primary instead of having Normal in front.
    Of course this also makes Normal as a secondary type a contradiction (meaning it won't happen because it makes no sense to also not be specialized while being a true "type" already)

    Basically this makes all the generic birds out there... almost Flying pokemon xD. Because they aren't truly employing any elemental type, but can fly as a bonus.


    I don't know if serious discussions about the Dark type came up yet, but its important to note that the Dark type is actually not about darkness per se, but rather about a sneaky strategy.
    It's about cheap tricks, cheating and unfair attacks.
    Bite, Thief, Sucker Punch, Beat Up, Fake Tears, Taunt, Fling, etc...
    The darkness as an elemental/energetic aspect is a sub-feature of Dark. And it is shared by the Ghost type, which just as much revolves around shadows and night-time.


    Being aquatic doesn't necessarily mean Water-type.
    Stunfisk is the first serious proof of this, but I'm still waiting for everyone to be surprised when we get some deep-sea stuff that is merely Ground/Electric/Poison/Dark/Grass... or a combination of these while not being Water.
    Well, there was Lugia, but barely anyone cared



    Some on-topic:
    Gengar should really be Ghost/Dark, not Poison...... it doesn't even learn any Poison moves...and learns tons of Dark. I'm sure it would be secondary Dark if the type existed back then.
    I get it for Gastly, but the later evos I don't see how Poison isn't immediately replaced by Dark. Should have been changed along with Magnemite as Steel got introduced.
    Eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitja View Post
    The darkness as an elemental/energetic aspect is a sub-feature of Dark. And it is shared by the Ghost type, which just as much revolves around shadows and night-time.
    Good catch. People who think Dark-type is about darkness seem to forget that Shadow Ball, Shadow Claw, Shadow Sneak and Shadow Force are all Ghost-type moves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ver-mont View Post
    Good catch. People who think Dark-type is about darkness seem to forget that Shadow Ball, Shadow Claw, Shadow Sneak and Shadow Force are all Ghost-type moves.
    In Japan, the Dark Type is called the 'Evil' Type...

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    Quote Originally Posted by iliekmudkipz View Post
    In Japan, the Dark Type is called the 'Evil' Type...
    I know, I've said that about ten thousand times here on this thread.

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    Sigh. People who are constantly on this thread should know this .-.

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    Groudon should be part fire, charizard should be fire/dragon (some part dragons that aren't classified as "flying" do in fact fly Nintendo, and charizard looks more like a dragon than most dragon types), Gyarados should be part dragon, not flying (i've never even seen a Gyarados flying tbh), Lugia should be Psychic/Water not flying (not having flying type classification doesn't necessarily mean a pokemon can't fly, and Lugia is in or near water more than half the time), the ralts line should be part grass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolf1095 View Post
    Groudon should be part fire
    Not really. Groudon is land, not fire.

    Quote Originally Posted by wolf1095 View Post
    charizard should be fire/dragon (some part dragons that aren't classified as "flying" do in fact fly Nintendo, and charizard looks more like a dragon than most dragon types), Gyarados should be part dragon, not flying (i've never even seen a Gyarados flying tbh)
    We spent the page before last discussing why this would have been a terrible idea at the time.



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    Quote Originally Posted by wolf1095 View Post
    Groudon should be part fire, charizard should be fire/dragon (some part dragons that aren't classified as "flying" do in fact fly Nintendo, and charizard looks more like a dragon than most dragon types), Gyarados should be part dragon, not flying (i've never even seen a Gyarados flying tbh), Lugia should be Psychic/Water not flying (not having flying type classification doesn't necessarily mean a pokemon can't fly, and Lugia is in or near water more than half the time), the ralts line should be part grass.
    If Groudon was part fire, it would have a terrible 4x weakness to Kyogre. Besides it's about land expansion. I agree with Charizard BUT it's a starter pokemon and would have an advantage over all of the other starters so it's fine the way it is. I wish they would change Gyarados's type so that people would just stop talking about it already -_-. Ralts line can indeed pass for a grass type if you base it on appearance (depending on the way you interpret it) but I don't know why anyone thinks it SHOULD be part grass.

    What I think they should change about the Ralts line is gender (Kirlia and Gardevoir female only and Ralts either gender), though it may be too late for that.

    Quote Originally Posted by BCVM22 View Post
    Not really. Groudon is land, not fire.



    We spent the page before last discussing why this would have been a terrible idea at the time.
    More like the whole thread -_______________-
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolf1095 View Post
    the ralts line should be part grass.
    Yeah, right, they have green on them so they're obviously plants. Suuure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolf1095 View Post
    the ralts line should be part grass.
    Color has nothing to do with Type. Just because they can learn some Grass Type moves and are kind of green doesn't make them a Grass Type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iliekmudkipz View Post
    Color has nothing to do with Type. Just because they can learn some Grass Type moves and are kind of green doesn't make them a Grass Type.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ver-mont View Post
    Yeah, right, they have green on them so they're obviously plants. Suuure.
    I'm content with its typing but like I mentioned before, it can be interpreted in a way where it looks plant-like (e.g. Ralts's "helmet" almost looks like leaves while the red horns may look like petals to some people). Obviously color isn't the true reason for thinking this way, otherwise people would think Krabby was part fire.

    I'm fine with people saying it looks part grass but I don't know why they insist that it should be part grass.

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    Well, I think they are the Pokemon match their types even though I don't know why Dragonite is orange and the rest of it evolutions are blue but maybe someone can fill in the blanks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanagi View Post
    but maybe someone can fill in the blanks.
    Because color, while a good indicator of type, is not the end-all, be-all of indicators and there are in fact any number of critters whose colors are the opposite of what you'd expect from their types.

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    I was going to facepalm at "Ralts line should be grass!!" being brought up again, but I see others have already beaten me to it.

    Anyone ever consider a type change for the Porygon line? Normal-type doesn't really fit for a virtual Pokemon made out of computer data. If anything methinks they should be Electric-types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCVM22 View Post
    Because color, while a good indicator of type, is not the end-all, be-all of indicators and there are in fact any number of critters whose colors are the opposite of what you'd expect from their types.

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    I undestand that but why. I already that not all dragons have to be blue and ore purple. I am asking why does Dragonair change color when it evolves into a Dragonite.


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    ^ Reminds me of this which I came across once:

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TGZoUCvJwD...6+gyarados.png

    Not that I necessarily agree with it (I don't), but eh. Plenty of Pokemon change color when they evolve. Charmander-->Charmeleon and Staryu-->Starmie as two completely random examples that first popped into my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poliwhirl'sMittens View Post
    Although her appearance may not scream ice or psychic, she is not only based on a ganguro, but also Yuki-onna, also known as snow woman, the spirit of someone who perished in the snow, so the ice typing in actuality is very fitting. Heck, even a ghost typing would go well with her theme.
    I thought Frosslass was the Pokemon based off a Yuki-Onna.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weedy Spyze View Post
    ^ Reminds me of this which I came across once:

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TGZoUCvJwD...6+gyarados.png

    Not that I necessarily agree with it (I don't), but eh. Plenty of Pokemon change color when they evolve. Charmander-->Charmeleon and Staryu-->Starmie as two completely random examples that first popped into my mind.
    Lol, but I understand even though I don't agree with the chart. I am just saying the color changes don't make much sense as all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanagi View Post
    Lol, but I understand even though I don't agree with the chart. I am just saying the color changes don't make much sense as all.
    I think that's part of the beauty. In my opinion I think the idea was completely random and they just wanted a big contrast. Why? Because they just did. Not everything needs an explanation
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    I can see the Ralts line being called grass. Some people have said that they look like plants. Ralt's head looks like a small seed almost with the horns as sprouts. Kirlia has been called a flower, which it does indeed look like one. Then Gardrvoir is the "adult flower", being fully grown and delicate/graceful. On the other hand, Gallade would just stay the same type. I do agree that since Gallade can only be male, then that Gardevoir should only be female. They should change the male Kirlia's appearance a bit.
    No, I'm not saying it should be grass. I'm simply saying why people say it often.

    Yes, I can aee the Porygon line as Electric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRecon View Post
    I thought Froslass was the Pokemon based off a Yuki-Onna.
    She is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weedy Spyze View Post
    Reminds me of this which I came across once:

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TGZoUCvJwD...6+gyarados.png

    Not that I necessarily agree with it (I don't), but eh. Plenty of Pokemon change color when they evolve. Charmander-->Charmeleon and Staryu-->Starmie as two completely random examples that first popped into my mind.

    IMO, Lapras looks much more like a Dragonair evo than Gyarados.....







    Quote Originally Posted by wolf1095 View Post
    charizard should be fire/dragon (some part dragons that aren't classified as "flying" do in fact fly Nintendo, and charizard looks more like a dragon than most dragon types), Gyarados should be part dragon, not flying (i've never even seen a Gyarados flying tbh)
    nope on both.
    Charizard as Dragon would break the starter triangle and in Gen 1 there's only 1 Dragon move, which deals set damage regardless of weakness & resistance.
    Guess what, if in Gen 1 Charizard is Fire/Dragon and Gyarados is Water/Dragon, THEY WOULD HAVE NO WEAKNESS.

    The truth is, both Charizard and Gyarados MUST NOT be Dragons.

    Also, Gyarados is based on a myth about a carp that turns into a flying serpent.
    While serpent itself can be taken as a kind of dragon, it also can be taken as a kind of snake, and we all know a snake isn't a dragon.


    Quote Originally Posted by wolf1095 View Post
    Lugia should be Psychic/Water not flying (not having flying type classification doesn't necessarily mean a pokemon can't fly, and Lugia is in or near water more than half the time)
    This I can agree.

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