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    "Legendary" is literally just a label we've slapped onto Pokemon with special storylines. Besides those with the 670+ BST's (which tend to have an obvious advantage over other Pokemon), being a "legendary" Pokemon rarely ever translates into power or viability. I'd honestly be a lot more afraid of a Speed Boost Blaziken in a battle than an Articuno or Regigigas, despite the former being a starter and the latter two being "legendary".

    It doesn't suprise me that the anime always makes legendary Pokemon look stronger than they actually are in the game series. Of course, this is also the same anime where Pikachu beat a Regice, a mirage Mewtwo, and tied with a Latios, only to go and lose to a Panpour of all things.

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    I may use legendaries for Pokemon Online, unless i get moaned at for using smogon Ubers, which annoys me aton. i never use it in an in-game team, i find it noodish and ruins your team. i hate how Smogon has made thier own pokemon rules. i dont mind sticking to them on a smogon server, but on wi-fi or another Pokemon Online server, its 'standard rules'. Game Freak gave us legendaries, why cant i use that power

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    It's not like being legendary is a sign of invincibility. I mean, the Pokémon that can create oceans cannot harm the discarded shell of any old Nincada. Also, some of us take JOY in murdering Pokémon with genocidal cyberbugs.

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    That may have been the case back in the 1st Gen, when Mewtwo had no real weaknesses, and the single Special stat governed both attacks and defence, making it nigh on immortal unless you were well versed at using Tobybro and SubResting Rhydons. The change in the way stats work, along with abilities, natures and new types stopped legendary domination long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumino Lucario View Post
    You people have got to admit that using Legendaries for everything is kind of like cheating and making you a weak trainer. For example Ash vs Tobias, Ash only used normal Pokemon not Legendaries while Tobias used Legendaries, which kinda puts Ash to a HUGE disadvantage. So all you fellow Serebii forum people give me your thoughts!
    LOL only noob DON'T use legendaries.. look at excadrill is he legendary? look at blaziken is HE legendary? both are ubers..
    And now look at articuno.. what you have to say?
    If a legendary fill a niche and is better than everyone else at that why not?
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    Just because your team has loads of legendaries doesn't make you a noob. You can beat legendaries with normal pokemon and they are only legendary because of a story about them. If we called bidoof legendary would everyone use it? No. People only use legendaries due to their above average stats. There are a few legendaries that are less than great, but on the whole they are pokemon with higher stats and if people want them on their team, let them use the legendaries.
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    Default How does Kyrurem-B/W's Nature and Stats work?

    Hi, this is actually my first post and i'm not even sure if it's in the right category. Anyway, I was wondering how the nature and stats of Kyurem B/W was calculated. Would it take on the nature and stats of the Kyurem? or the Zekrom/Reshiram?

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    I like to use some legendaries but only my favorites (Raikou, Verizrion, Darkrai, Victini, Articuno, Latias, Raquaza and/or Genesect)
    But I found that having them really dosn't make too much of a difference to your teams as soon as strategy comes into play.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZimZum View Post
    i'm not even sure if it's in the right category.
    http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthr...-Thread-Again!

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    Anyway, I was wondering how the nature and stats of Kyurem B/W was calculated. Would it take on the nature and stats of the Kyurem? or the Zekrom/Reshiram
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    I agree. my friend rose his Keldeo up to lvl 80 and its his best pkmn (80? really?) and he won the elite four with it, but ill never stop callin him a newb (along with his bro callin him a newb) cuz legends have unnaturally perfect stats, moves, and types. its like having a shiny dragonite. when WOULDN'T, you use tht pkmn?! be honest...

    It's not like being legendary is a sign of invincibility. I mean, the Pokémon that can create oceans cannot harm the discarded shell of any old Nincada. Also, some of us take JOY in murdering Pokémon with genocidal cyberbugs.
    That's really creepy, doesn't make a whole lot of sense, and genesect is called genesect because:
    gene: a piece of DNA obtained from your parents
    sect: the last part of the word "insect"

    neither of those words have anything to do with genocide weirdo. :P but jk i could see how you thought that. i mean he has a frik*n cannon on his head LOL
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    I only agree if you use a team full of Legendaries. However, if you use a Legendary Pokemon to lead your team (for example an Articuno leading an Ice type only team), then that's okay.
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    Nah, it doesn't make you weak. Some people can defeat a team of Legendary Pokemon with a team of regular Pokemon. So, it really doesn't matter.

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    Not at all. Except when you're a noob using only Legendaries because you have no idea how to make a proper team and think you can always win with them. My Scarfed Hydreigon on PO easily takes out Arceus with one Focus Blast. If you know how to use legendaries stratistically, then it's fine. I rarely use them except in Ubers. There aren't many good Uber players out there, but I am a quite good one myself. But no, juat because you use legendaries for everything doesn't make you a total nooooob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chapter of Charizard View Post
    I agree. my friend rose his Keldeo up to lvl 80 and its his best pkmn (80? really?) and he won the elite four with it, but ill never stop callin him a newb (along with his bro callin him a newb) cuz legends have unnaturally perfect stats, moves, and types. its like having a shiny dragonite. when WOULDN'T, you use tht pkmn?! be honest...
    "Legendary Pokemon" has no correlation with "unnaturally perfect stats, moves, and types". All a "Legendary Pokemon" is is one deemed as such and has no correlation with how "powerful" a Pokemon is. There are some Legendary Pokemon that are indeed incredibly useful in battle and others absolutely worthless, just as such that there are non-Legendary that fit in both categories as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chapter of Charizard View Post
    I agree. my friend rose his Keldeo up to lvl 80 and its his best pkmn (80? really?) and he won the elite four with it, but ill never stop callin him a newb (along with his bro callin him a newb) cuz legends have unnaturally perfect stats, moves, and types. its like having a shiny dragonite. when WOULDN'T, you use tht pkmn?! be honest...
    The only "newb" here is you for being so closed minded and judgemental. What does it matter to you if your friend choose to raise his Keldeo in his team? It's his team and game NOT yours.


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    BCVM has the links..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dylz View Post
    And Serebii had a typo in its link, that is why the link was invalid.
    Not any more.. I fixed it..

    Technically, this is a Game help thread.. so Shutting. GPD rules.

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    Exactly what BB said. Like...really. I should call you a "nweb" ._.

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    We'll... Personally, I do feel like cheating when using legendaries as their stats are far superior than regular pokemon, Aswell as the fact that anyone can use them hence their commonness...
    The only "newb" here is you for being so closed minded and judgemental. What does it matter to you if your friend choose to raise his Keldeo in his team? It's his team and game NOT yours.
    Talking about "judgemental"...
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    I use legendaries. On my Heartgold team, I used a Ho-oh and a Suicune. You know who else I used? a Butterfree, a Plusle, a Nidoking, and a Jumpluff. Suddenly, my legendaries become less impressive.

    It isn't your choice to decide who a "newb" and who isn't. I don't use legendary Pokemon because of their stats, I use them because I genuinely like them. I don't even look at most of my Pokemon's stats. I look at their design and mythology and decide if I want them on my team. Just because you personally don't like them, it doesn't make you any better than people who do like them.
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    Depends completely on the legendary and situation at hand. Not all legendaries are good, hell even Nintendo allows the lesser ones to be used in PWT and tournaments so I wouldn't consider it cheating or even being a "noob" in that sense. On that same note, using the most powerful legendaries like Arceus against each other is fine since both players are on the same level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumino Lucario View Post
    You people have got to admit that using Legendaries for everything is kind of like cheating and making you a weak trainer.
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    So all you fellow Serebii forum people give me your thoughts!
    What would be the point in giving you our thoughts if you already told us how to think?
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    I think using stuff like Garchomp, Scizor and other overpowered stuff makes you much more a weak trainer than using an Entei for example.

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    Legendaries are a largely subjective concept. In the end, it's nothing more than a matter of personal preference. While Arceus and His incredible base stats may be quite the awesome thing, He can still be countered by the right teams and moves. If somebody wants to use Legendaries, let them. There's a viable counter to most anything and everything, and a team full of "SUPER SAWESOME LEGENDARIES I AM LEET" can still be eliminated by... Oh, I don't know... A Blaziken. I hear he's been in the same tier recently.

    In the end, everything has it's flaws. You shouldn't judge the standards of the Game and how it should be played based upon the inane standards of the Anime, although this point has already been made, I believe twice.

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