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[RondezView]

Cool idea!
For my White FC the team would be:
133 - Eevee (yay!)
553 - Krookodile
615 - Cryogonal
411 - Bastiodon

And for White 2:
374 - Beldum
075 - Graveler
68 - Machamp
079 - Slowpoke (lol)
6 - Charizard

I want to do this for my Diamond and SoulSilver FCs too but I don't have them to hand.

[jireh the provider]

I can see Nintendo losing money in future years, we're living in a generation where kids are growing up on COD rather than Gameboys. In order to attract an entire fanbase of a franchise they could make certain franchsies a little darker with spin off games. I never said a main series game would get a T or M rating I was giving examples of the darker story line from BW/BW2. Colosseum/XD was my huge example. They could easily make a game like this rated at least T. Parents will still buy the games a lot of parents bought their children black ops 2 when it came out last month. E rated titles for the main series are fine but personally I wouldn't mind even a spin off game for Wii U with a darker plot

Dpnnt forget chunsofts PMD series. hey' placed crap past the radar on their story lines.
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This game even begs you to commit suicide! Scary huh? How about knowing what is like to being a fugitive hunted down by everyone for a criminal act you did not do? I ca't forget that fear.
 

[randomspot555]

I can see Nintendo losing money in future years

FPS and violent video games are not something new. Wolfenstein, Duke Nukem, and Doom have been around since the early 90s.

we're living in a generation where kids are growing up on COD rather than Gameboys.

Fortunately, there are still consoles and games that cater to the people who want to play something other than or in addition to Call of Duty.

In order to attract an entire fanbase of a franchise they could make certain franchsies a little darker with spin off games.

Don't fix what isn't broken. Those people who aren't playing Pokemon now aren't going to play it because some horrid spin-off game is "a little bit darker".

E rated titles for the main series are fine but personally I wouldn't mind even a spin off game for Wii U with a darker plot

Oh, I see. It is a personal problem.

With all due respect, why don't you just go ahead and play these darker games rather than hoping for the dream that Pokemon will become something it never was and never intended to be?

[zozo]

Hmm... okay, I'll give this a go!

White team:
223: Remoraid
67: Machoke
274: Nuzleaf
75: Graveler
88: Grimer

A surprisingly balanced team, but all the same that would be a really hard one to work with.

White2 team:
039: Jigglypuff
066: Machop
386: Deoxys
81: Magnemite
7: Squirtle

And I thought the White team would be hard to work with. At least this one has Deoxys though. xD

[MiloticTwins]

Will there be some Pokémon video games, which are rated EC for Early Childhood by the ESRB?

[N...]

wow some of you are really rude. seriously, instead of being a dick about it don't bother posting and let a mod close this. "Go play those games then" highlighting posts to make me look like a fool? cyberbullying is apparently here too

[AbFabTrainerKira]

wow some of you are really rude. seriously, instead of being a dick about it don't bother posting and let a mod close this. "Go play those games then" highlighting posts to make me look like a fool? cyberbullying is apparently here too

It is a pain that some people act that way, but what can you do? It's the 'net...

[gamer_legend]

With all due respect, why don't you just go ahead and play these darker games rather than hoping for the dream that Pokemon will become something it never was and never intended to be?

Just in regards to that last one I don't know how many people here are Star Trek fans like me but the series DS9 was criticised by a select few who believed it didn't follow Gene Roddenberry's vision (which it didn't) but instead it became something so much more than that and a result was one of the most beloved series of all time.

There is nothing wrong with Nintendo experimenting with the pokemon formula and Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness & Pokemon Colosseum had alot of promise it was so dark, Black and White proved itself by adding philosophical elements to the game plot which as a result managed to recapture it's older audience while their sequels capitalised on the gameplay itself and to be fair Pokemon has had darkness within it since its origin if you recall Mewtwo's backstory with Amber and Jessie's mother.

It's not up to the fans to decide what the games are about it's up to Nintendo. All you need to do is enjoy it or not. As for the ratings I think many will find the reason for that is because the more people can buy it the more money Nintendo can make.

[kyuurilugia]

OK
what was Red's first pokemon and how did he get it
what is inside a pokeball
how did ash get his hat
what was the mistake that was in pokemon mewtwo strikes back that the editors left in on perpose
Let's see how you fair

[randomspot555]

Just in regards to that last one I don't know how many people here are Star Trek fans like me but the series DS9 was criticised by a select few who believed it didn't follow Gene Roddenberry's vision (which it didn't) but instead it became something so much more than that and a result was one of the most beloved series of all time.

There's a difference. From what you're saying, a Star Trek series significantly departed from the formula and made it less like Star Trek, hence the criticism. In this case, we have a guy who wants Pokemon to become something it never was and never intended to be. The additional elements to plot as seen in Gen 5 with some philosophical bent is completely irrelevant to making something that would cause Pokemon to get a T or M rating.

There seems to be a misconception that ratings for movies and other media are based on "maturity", like an 8 year old wouldn't pick up the meaning of the messages that are contained in the plots of Platinum or BW. And maybe that's true, but the 8 year old still can play and fully enjoy the game.

The ratings look out for factors such as:

1. gore
2. excessive violence
3. sexual content
4. tobacco, alcohol, drug use
5. the "isms" and phobias such as racism, sexism, homophobia, etc...
6. cursing and other strong language, especially when directed at a sort of minority group.
7. and other stuff that violates societal norms, such as bullying. Usually a villain can get away with it but a hero or protagonist cant

You can produce a great movie or video game or TV show with a good message and your rating will still be the "E" or "G" rating. It is only when you start slipping in visible content that you start strattling the line between "G" and "PG". And at this point, there already is a lot of suggestive content in Pokemon games. Sure, a lot of it gets eaten up in localization, but not all (just go to the Ferris Wheel).

Looking at that list, the first four have never been a core part of Pokemon. Ever. Period. Remember, Satoshi Tajiri really specifically wanted to make Pokemon "faint" rather than "die" or "lose a life" because he thought that aspect of video games degrades life itself and makes us as humans respect it less. The anime and games typically go to great lengths to show that Pokemon battles are typically non-lethal and that 99.99% of the time, a Pokemon acting "evil" is usually because it is being mind controlled by some evil dude.

Even societal norms such as bullying and stealing can sneak in as long as it is done correctly. Silver, for example, never steals anything "on camera" and he later reforms his character. The newest rival has rage issues, but it is a plot point and he grows as a person in the story.

Can Pokemon push more boundaries with plots? Sure. That'd be great. The good thing about stories like Pokemon is there are layers everyone of any age group can take from. But that has nothing to do with a "higher" rating. Anyone advocating for a "higher" rating is pretty much asking for Pokemon to become their personal slash-fic/FPS or whatever, and in that case, they're better suited playing something else they'll enjoy rather than hoping for something that'll never come and was never intended to be.

[Endolise]

what was Red's first pokemon and how did he get it

Bulbasaur is most frequently depicted as his Starter Pokemon in early promotional material, although in-game it was presumably his Pikachu, since it is his ace Pokemon in GSCHGSS.

what is inside a pokeball

Virtual reality technology that simulates a comfortable environment for the Pokemon inside.

how did ash get his hat
what was the mistake that was in pokemon mewtwo strikes back that the editors left in on perpose

With the exception of Pokemon 2000, all of the post-AG movies, and     Spoiler:- Anime Spoilers:

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the upcoming N arc
 

, I don't care about the anime.

[gamer_legend]

Well, not necessarily. Time just appears to slow down from the perspective of an outside viewer to do the gravitic effects of the black hole on the light that interacts with the observer's eyes. To the person inside the black hole, everything outside would appear to be sped up. The Distortion World is actually a supposed "mirror universe" (although it isn't a "universe," per se; it's a parallel dimension), wherein time and space function opposite the way they do in the primary dimension, as well as reference to baryogenesis, which is the process by which the amount of matter in our universe came to supersede that of antimatter, even though the two should logically have existed in equal amounts.

Hahaha. =) I love the fact that as soon at my comment pops up we happen always have the right person around. In this case Physics Expert. I love the internet.

[Chapter of Charizard]

what was Red's first pokemon and how did he get it

Bulbasaur! The manga shows that he was teaching kids about catching Pokemon w/ a Nidoran (Male) and they said Oak might teach him bout battling...
He thinks red is a thief, they have to collect all the pokes, the last one is an angry machoke, red tells bulbasaur to use solarbeam and bla bla bla his first starter is bulbasaur...

tho...

before his adventure in the manga, he already has a pokemon...
what was it?
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Poliwhirl
 

[Moonrox]

I can see Nintendo losing money in future years, we're living in a generation where kids are growing up on COD rather than Gameboys. In order to attract an entire fanbase of a franchise they could make certain franchsies a little darker with spin off games. I never said a main series game would get a T or M rating I was giving examples of the darker story line from BW/BW2. Colosseum/XD was my huge example. They could easily make a game like this rated at least T. Parents will still buy the games a lot of parents bought their children black ops 2 when it came out last month. E rated titles for the main series are fine but personally I wouldn't mind even a spin off game for Wii U with a darker plot

We're living in a generation where kids are growing up on COD? You'd better rethink your statement. Just because your school is full of kids playing Black Ops doesn't mean everyone's is. Pokemon is the second most popular game series, next to Mario.

[randomspot555]

We're living in a generation where kids are growing up on COD? You'd better rethink your statement. Just because your school is full of kids playing Black Ops doesn't mean everyone's is. Pokemon is the second most popular game series, next to Mario.

The thing that irks me is when people say "But Halo" or "COD" or whatever the popular FPS is nowadays, they say it in a way as if FPS is a brand new genre of gaming experiencing mega-success. FPS have been around since the early 1970s, and were some of the first majorly successful games on personal computers. Still to this day, die hard fans of Duke Nukem, Quake, and Doom are home-making their own, special levels and worlds based on the original engines from the early 90s. And I would know. I was a very casual Gen I Pokemon fan, only playing friends' copies or renting Pokemon Stadium. But I grew up on playing Doom, Wolfeinstein 3d, and Quake.

FPS have been around for a long time, and so has JRPGs. They'll continue to both have success simultaneously, and the success of one is not a threat to the other. They're completely different types of games that people play for completely different reasons.

[kyuurilugia]

XD not at all this is the thing
inside a pokeball well you were right it technicly has mirrors
ash got his hat by saying in the main match for the indigo leage that charizard would win instead of blastoise
Red's first pokemon was a poliwag (techincly a poliwhirl since it evoled to save him from drowning)
all in all X

[Chapter of Charizard]

"X"? what that mean. and good, ya.

[Shiny Rokon]

lol! its funny the combination you can come up with would like to try going through the game with the team

[kyuurilugia]

all in all
X wrong sorry for the confusion
2 out of 3 wrong answered were wrong for sure but the other one is debaitable since I didn't make it clear

[Endolise]

Red's first pokemon was a poliwag (techincly a poliwhirl since it evoled to save him from drowning)

In the manga, sure, but I only consider the games to be canon, since they came first. So really, one has to specify which "Red" is being discussed, since they're not all equivalent to each other. They're cross-canon counterparts.