Jappio's (Supposedly Awesome) Splices and Captace Region

[Jappio]

Ok, as I've said before, I am now a spriter for a friend's fighting game. I'm in charge of about 4 or 5 characters. I am also in charge of picking a style. Well I've had a tough time in the last two weeks or so picking one. We had a style before that was good and I was able to work out, but the style was too small, wouldn't have worked for us. So now I had to figure something new out. I've chosen a style now, and before going any farther, I needed to get some critique and opinions and comments. Raizou, my character, may not be the best test for a style, he's so large and beefy that it complicates things. I'm not done with this sprite, still shading and stuff to work on. The chain mail on the legs hasn't been designed yet. For the most part though this is my idea on the style. I don't know if it works though, so I need as much help as I can get.

[Jappio]

Well I did some more work with the style. I haven't be able still to properly do Raiou, things about him are bothering. I decided I needed to do more than just our large beefy guy, so I quick threw together our smallest character. This little guy is a ninja/samurai, or I forget what exactly. I think my friend has called him a 'Ronin'. I've always pictured him as a ninja though. He is a fox person, he is based on a sonic RP character. His name is Ryu, perhaps some of you may even know the owner of this character.

Now his appearance I'm basing off of older descriptions of the character. I also am not the person in charge of making his sprites. This basically means I won't be doing anything more with the character beyond this point. I merely did him for size reference for the style. I also touched up Raizou some.

Opinions and stuff on the style or how either of the sprites are would be greatly welcomed. I can't say though I'll go and fix Ryu, just because I'm not keeping his sprite.

[flame master 14]

They definately aren't in the Pokemon style, but if I remember correctly you specifically said you attempting otherwise. The one thing that bothers me is the footwear on both sprites. It just looks a bit unnatural. Other than that kudos on a job reasonably well done.

[Jappio]

I'll be sure to get to the footwear, for whatever reason I have a tough time with them.

Well here is another batch. In the blue shirt we have Bill. Bill is an interesting character. He's the kind of guy who after a match will do a twirl, rip his shirt off, and then rub his nipples... Bill is interesting. He has a guitar as a weapon also, so I think he is cool. I may or may not be doing all of his sprites, depends how fast I do the others.

The next new one is Shun-Yu. I don't know if I have to describe him again, I've done so multiple times... I might as well. He's a Chinese Hopping Vampire, or Jiang Shi. In ways they are more like zombies than vampires though. You can't see it now but in battle you'll have the option to switch between two forms of Shun-Yu, long armed and short armed. This sprite here is short armed. The long arm formed will of course have longer reach, and fight differently. Shun-Yu can lengthen his arms due to rigamortis.

I've made a few touchups to the other two sprites. Raizou is bothering me, so he isn't perfect yet until I get a better grasp on the style I'm using. Ryu I don't care too much for still because I'm not his spriter.

Comments, critique, and whatever highly requested.

[Jappio]

Two more people added.

First up is Alexa. She's all bundled up in armor and clothing due to the cold climate she comes from. She wields a claymore in battle. If I remember correctly she also has forms of ice magic and or attacks.

Secondly is Moonblade. He wields a spear. I have not much more to say of the guy due to the fact that I know a lot of tedious facts about the dude, but nothing though I think really describe him to well.

I've also gone and fixed up some of the other guys. What really annoyed me was for the longest time I couldn't figure out how I was going to do Raizou's chainmail. Then while doing Alexa I had to do some. The first pattern/style I tried for it worked beutifully, and I was all "God dang it, how is it I wasn't able to figure something that simple for Raizou!" Then I applied it to Raizou. I updated Ryu. I originally wasn't going to pay so much attention to the little guy, but since people have been so kind to critique him, I figured I might as well update and fix him up.

[Jappio]

Ok. I've done some more work. With the critique I've gotten (Again, thank you to all who have. Anyone who has given me some critique or just plain out told me I needed work, thank you. I greatly appreciate and it's thanks to you all I've been able to make any improvements so far) I have now fixed up some errors with these. I haven't quite gotten to everything. Ryu has remained fairly unchanged, but I don't care too much about fixing him. Shun-Yu and Raizou are most important to me since I'm actually doing more for them. Raizou I'm getting real happy with, sadly Shun-Yu not as much. Due to a recent decision by his creator, his outfit has changed. That stupid under robe just doesn't look right, but I can't figure how to fix it!

The biggest thing I've done is I've altered the style a bit with them all. I went for as suggested, darker borders and greater contrast. I must say I like it, and it is easier to do due to some colors being less plentiful. I can't say for sure if it's better myself, hence my posting of them. I want to continue to evolve these sprites, so I'm again asking for any critique anyone is giving.

[flame master 14]

Bill's left arm is a bit disproportionate, actually. from the shoulder to the elbow is too long compared to the elbow to wrist part. The shading is a bajillion times better on the bottom sheet, great improvements. to be honest, I'd like to learn more about these guys if you'd bother with brief background stories.

[Jappio]

Thanks for the tips Flame Master. I'd also be happy to share some info on the guys.

Raizou is my character, so I know basically everything about him. He is an asgardian warrior. After dieing in battle, he went to Asgard. There he became a disciple of the god Thor. He gained electrical powers, and went from realm to realm teachings the ways of the Norse religion. Not the fastest or brightest of warrior, but with that huge axe, incredible strength, great berserker like stamina, and electricity flowing through his body he is one tough guy.

Alexa isn't mine, but I know bits and pieces. Ironically she is also in some way Nordic. She carries around a claymore and has some forms of ice powers. She is in a way a paladin too, so she is also more holy than not. Coming from a cold land, she is bundled up in clothing and armor.

Bill is one of our less serious characters. Not much back story with him except he is some type of rock star who will have attacks like pelvic thrusting and throwing fan-girls from the audience at you.

Shun-Yu isn't quite anyone new to me, I think I have almost as many sprites of him as I do Raizou. My best friend's RP character, and a pretty cool guy. He may look serious, but like Bill won't be the most serious. He'll go around running ridiculously, saying weird awkward things. He may be an evil soul sucking Jiang-Shi, but he takes everything in such a light hearted manner that it's almost cute.

Moonblade is kind of like a dragoon. He jumps around really high and uses a spear. With an assortment of spells and other equipment, he does his best to keep you away and in pain. I don't really know anything significant to say about him though.

Ryu is a short/fox/ninja. He'll be the type of character who runs around really fast throwing stuff around and then put you into some 23 hit combo =P. He obviously won't be very strong though. Like everyone else, he is a friend's RP character. He is some type of Ronin or something. Originated as character in sonic RP's, hence why he is only 3 ft tall. A good guy who wants to protect people and find peace in the world.


While I'm here I might as well post something. I made an animation. It's just the normal standing pose. I have found that my lack of experience in animation has hampered the quality. I'm not asking for critique on this, just because it's not at my best, I know I can and how I can do better. You're free to comment and critique, I'm just letting you all know it isn't required.

[flame master 14]

I see, I see. That's actually more interesting than I thought it would be, no offense...I think. I see why you're not too happy with the animation, but I think it's good for one of your first documented tries. The legs should move a bit though.

[glalieguy]

Everything is great!! The Arca-Lairon and the Shroom-Scyther looksC&P though. 10/10

[Jappio]

Sorry for the long wait with no update. I've been working as much as I can though. I now have an attack started. I'm not going to call it done, or close to it. I know currently it needs plenty of work. I though felt the need to get something made. I plan on improving the sprites and perhaps adding a few frames. I wouldn't mind though some critique or anything. The move I'm showing is one of Raizou few "command" moves. In fighting game terms, I suppose it's called a "623" or as I refer to it as: "shoryuken". It's a simple jab with some advancement. I don't know if I'll be posting animations for more moves, it takes awhile to do sadly. The speeds in the animation are messed, so try and ignore that if possible =P. That lightning doesn't move fast enough when it strikes down.

[Torosiken]

*ttired of clickings*
they're awesome (what more to say... hm)

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

[Jappio]

Well then, I'd like to call this an update, but honestly it isn't. I see it more as a glorified bump. I can't stand though just letting my theads go inactive for so long. For over the last weak I got almost no work done. The few sprites I did were crappy as all heck. I also plain couldn't get in the mood to sprite. I decided though I was only wallowing in self pity and decided to just start spriting again. For whatever reason walking sprites are tough. I made this so far. I know it needs more frames, and I know I'm missing stuff like the shield and axe head. I will get all those things added. Just wanted to bump with a little show of what I'm doing.

On a side note. A got a couple of comments about how I don't have an axe move. I find it a little odd that you all thought I had to be told to make an axe attack. To remind everyone, this is a fighting game, and in a fighting game a character has multiple attacks. Just because I make the due throw a punch for my first practice at an attack sprite, does not mean I won't have any axe swings. Raizou will make use of his axe, and those blows will devastate. I'm not quite complaining about the critique I got about that, but I found it funny that multiple people felt they had to suggest to me to do that.

[Northern Lights]

Your game sprite are very well done, which begs the question as to why you insist on mostly using C+P for your fusions - at least you alter the shading on the parts you add

Try to scratch the parts of your fusions too and they'd looked fantastic.

Your Fakes - well they certainly don't follow the pokemon style, and that what most strive for when making a region, otherwise it just looks like miscellaneous sprites =\

The shading on most of them could do with a bit of work too.

Just some comments for thought.

[Yami Ryu]

No.

Just. No.

This is not walking. This.. I don't even know what it is. It's worse than a crab walk. He's crab walking and distorting his body while in a defensive stance. Don't believe me that this would be impossible to do or atleast uncomfortable and difficult? You try walking in that pose.

So. No. Just. No.

Sadly this is the only sprite you've really improved :/ and the other thing that's off about it- pecs are not a shell. You don't need to define them so heavily that it looks like his belly is scaled/shelled when he turns to the side.

[Jappio]

Northern Lights, thanks for the comments. I shy away from scratching in my splices because it's just not the style I like to do. I see splicing as a type of puzzle. Basically I try to see how I can fit all the pieces together. Reasoning why my splices don't exactly reflect my spriting skill shown in my fighting game sprites is probably because I did the splices first. It's only recently that I've started this fighting game, all my splices therefore were made when I wasn't as good. I'll see if I can get into more scratching when making splices, but I can't promise I will. I honestly see it as a difference between crayons and watercolors. Sure I could use water colors, but my style is much more like the crayon, simple but fun =D

The fakemon I'm trying to improve, but just like splicing, I'm putting them to the side for the fighting game.

Yami Ryu, I did actually walk in that pose, perhaps though it's hard to tell because I haven't added all the frames in yet, but I didn't think it was too uncomfortable. I'd have to describe it more as stomping than walking though in reality. I must say I thank you for the critique though. I will be sure to try and attend to the things you mentioned.

[Yami Ryu]

No I mean not moving your legs at all. Or rather bending your knees. What you're basically doing is having him swing one leg forward, then the other. That is not walking. It's not even stomping. He's basically doing something like a squat, but it's not even a squat. Adding more frames won't help.

http://maniacco.tripod.com/tutorials.htm

As I said your character isn't really walking, running, stomping or even squating, moving out continuously in a pose like that would not be fesable, unless he was deformed in some way :/

[Jappio]

I think I've made enough of a representation of what I want for the walking sprite. I can now move onto a different set of sprites. I probably will just do jumping and or running sprites next. I'm not done with this one, but it looks like what I basically wanted, and I'll tweak and improve it over time. Critique and all that jazz is welcome of course.

[Jappio]

Well in a fit of boredom, I decided to make this. I don't know what more there is to mention of it, so I will leave it at that. I know I said I'd be trying to do nothing but fighting game, but my mind wanders from time to time =P

[RXS]

I love how you splice pokemon that nobody would really ever think of splicing... idk I love them.

As for your fakemon, work on your overall scratching as some of them look really poorly made. Also, the two ice cube pokemon (586 and 587 i believe) look exactly alike except for some snow on the evolutions head... shouldn't there be more of a difference?