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    Noo problem! ;D I prefer reading longer fics which is why I think all of them are 150k plus ^.^
    I know I already gave you lots to read but I missed one of the best!! D:
    http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3771428/1/Final-Challenge = So sad D':
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    I LOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SAD FICS. LIKE OH MY GOSH YOU HAVE NO IDEA. GHFUJDKEHGUJFIKDOES THANK YOUUUUUU
    I SHALL READ IT SOON!

    Ahhh I feel like sharing some art work I found on DA. They're oldies. But I like to share some old ones from time to time. u//u//u

    http://shadowmonkeybaby.deviantart.c...ines-154025162
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    http://bakachan53.deviantart.com/art...Fine-171437828
    This is seriously like one of my favs LOL
    http://vulpixi-misa.deviantart.com/a...arts-244813430
    This guy's super nice and talented, go fav him!8D
    http://hollowku.deviantart.com/art/A...ites-340584830
    One of the first ADV fanarts I saw when I was younger
    http://jedicrossovermaster1.devianta...urns-220119883
    http://asuna07neros.deviantart.com/a...gain-189411015
    http://jedicrossovermaster1.devianta...-Adv-220138126
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    Urgh, I ALWAYS POST TOO MUCH ART
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    This place is filled with so much links. Which one to pick, oh, the choices.

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    @Midnight TEEHEE, oh, you know me.;D I always spam places with art.; u ;
    LOL

    Man, Chloe shared a weird fic and it got me thing...xD

    Has there ever been a weird Advanceshipping fic? A fic that made you think, what was the author thinking?
    Like, I don't know. I don't think there are any.xD

    Well, I once found a lemon with Ash x May x Drew.
    It was...not really weird. Just poorly written and the setting was ridiculous - It could never happen.

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    Sweet Jesus at the links. That should at least keep the topic full on fan art for a while.

    Also, damn, does this song ever remind me of Advanceshipping, for whatever reason. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuDzAQriQP0
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    Has there ever been a weird Advanceshipping fic? A fic that made you think, what was the author thinking?

    Hm, oh yes. There has been one. It was a lemon, like a super awesome written lemon with plot and everything. May comes in for a doctor appointment and Ash happens to be a doctor. There it starts off pretty normal until Ash can't control himself any more. I wasn't too creep out by it too much because the whole thing flowed really well and written soo good as well. At first I didn't think it was a lemon and when I found out I was like, "this isn't that bad. In fact, its good and...hot. >"

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnightjewelz View Post
    Has there ever been a weird Advanceshipping fic? A fic that made you think, what was the author thinking?

    Hm, oh yes. There has been one. It was a lemon, like a super awesome written lemon with plot and everything. May comes in for a doctor appointment and Ash happens to be a doctor. There it starts off pretty normal until Ash can't control himself any more. I wasn't too creep out by it too much because the whole thing flowed really well and written soo good as well. At first I didn't think it was a lemon and when I found out I was like, "this isn't that bad. In fact, its good and...hot. >"
    this sounds like p***ography involving a doctor, which is pretty cliché. I always laugh at Advance shipping lemons, just the idea of taking these 2 innocent characters and turning them into Ash Hardwood and May Starr is so ridiculous lol. I don't think I would be able to write an AS fic like that

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    Has there ever been a weird Advanceshipping fic? A fic that made you think, what was the author thinking?

    A Day Inside May. Coincidentally, it was written by the same person that wrote my favorite shipping fic ever (Two of a Kind). It's unfortunate that Cybercubed doesn't right Advanceshipping fanfiction anymore. If they were that good seven years ago, I can only imagine how good it would be now. I still wish for a sequel to that, no matter how impossible it is. I may or may not have to write it myself.

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    @Midnight Man oh man, that sounds really hot like oh my goshhhhhhhh!!!!xDDD gfhdejswgyfhdujes
    AHHHHHHHH I SORT OF WANT TO READ IT NOW.

    @Flame Yeah, I guess I sort of know what you mean.xD Buuuuut, I always imagine them older, so it really doesn't creep me out.xD

    Oh god, I feel like drawing a hentai now gfhdjeuswyhfujdiksew. Might make one oneday.~ = u =
    And I gotta draw corssover's too! I've been wanting to make SO MANY ADV crossovers ghfrdujesowhgyfr.

    @Breeder Drew Yessss, I tend to post up a lot of fanarts at a time. Actually, that amount was pretty small for me. I usually put up a lot more.; u ;
    And ahhhh I need to read this too!!! gyhfrdejswgfhdjuesk

    Also, thinking of writing a short horror like fanfic (ADV of course). Mainly psychological though. It's just the ending, that I have in mind, might be considered horror. lol
    Or tragedy. I don't know.
    I have too plan it out first and find the time. Buuuut to give you guys a quick little description, I'm using my own self-hatred as an inspiration/influence.
    Also, I don't think there will be any fluff. Like, none. Or maybe I can squeeze in one or two moments? I REALLY don't know. I don't even know how long it will be.
    I may or may not start this weekend.
    And I have a scene in mind that will be inspired by my favourite anime, Evangelion. Awww yiss.
    But yeah, I don't know. I think this will mainly be an experiment piece. We'll see how it goes. I just REALLLLLY hope I finish this one this time.; ~ ;

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterkennedy1 View Post
    Contestshipping won drew and may are together still
    That's fine that you support whatever ship. But please post it in the Contestshipping thread, which can be found here; http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthr...cussion-Thread
    Since, it doesn't really have anything to do with Advanceshipping.
    I'm not insulted, I just wanted to give you a heads up because you might get in trouble. Well, I've never seen it happen here, but I've seen it happen on BulbaGarden. So I'm assuming the same rules apply here.
    Anyway's, glad you stopped by here! And I hope you'll have fun on the Contestshipping thread.
    And don't feel shy to come back here. We'd love for you to stay!
    Just make sure topics are stayed in the Advanceshipping area, as you might be breaking forum rules. (Again, I'm not sure if it's the same here on Serebii, but I just wanted to give you the heads up.xD)
    Have fun posting!! <3

    Anyway's, I thought up of a new topic yesterday, but forgot to put it up!:'D

    How would Ash and May look if they were older? (Can be any age. 20, 30, 40, etc.) And how would their lives be?:

    I'll answer this later, I have to go now.xD lol

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    Has there ever been a weird Advanceshipping fic? A fic that made you think, what was the author thinking?

    I usually don't respond to questions in these threads, but I rather like this one. Personally, part of the problem with a great deal of fan-fiction is that not enough stories do this. A lot of times authors are committed to just delivering the same, generic ideas without much interest in doing something new that will grip readers. This in itself is fine, as pulp fiction tends to be the most successful nowadays, but as a result I never end up wondering what an author thought. I already knew what they thought: Ash and May should be together, and they're going to be together in my story, and you're going to read about it. Never do I ask myself why they should be together, or how this changes the characters, because a lot of authors just go through the motions of writing a story without anything meaningful beneath the surface.

    As a bit of a promotional plug, but also as an example, the revised version of PKM Rangers: Rise of the Dark Gems that I'm posting here, I post author's notes designed to do just this. In addition to reviving the series for new readers, I also like to go back and think about what caused me to portray characters the way I did, or how I feel the story has adapted and changed over the years. I do this because it sparks ideas in me as I try to finish the story and examine my own purposes for writing it, and I highly recommend other writers do it as well. A story that has something to say is always a story worth pursuing, and reflecting on what messages you convey as a writer also strengthens the reasons behind those messages you're conveying.
    Zepther is not a perfect city, filled with crime and evil. Through its dark alleys and narrows streets, a silent watcher protects the people, calling forth the darkness of metal to defend them. Cloaked in black, shrouded in the mysteries of his past, his cold heart is true as steel. His name is Chronos. He is the Dark Eye.
    The legacy begins...

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    @Power Shot Man oh man, that was beautiful. (I really like reading through well written responses.)
    And ahaha, I totally agree with you! I don't think I've ever thought about it like that. That really got me thinking. I mean, how connected is the author to their story?
    While writing it, they just want Ash and May to be together, and nothing really more. To be honest, I'm kind of guilty of doing this myself.xD (Well, I just really write for fun or when I have the time.)
    But yeah, I think fics that are based on the authors own feelings or experience brings richness to their story. Not only that, but it makes them want to write it even more.
    Or just, as you mentioned, reflecting on how they feel about the character's, etc. can really bring a lot more feel to the story. It's like, you're understanding your own feelings/opinions about the characters/etc.
    And I also think that what you do, is a great idea. This is really going to help me when writing my next fic!
    Thanks!
    Very well written and thought of.

    And to answer my own topic from earlier.xD

    How would Ash and May look if they were older? (Can be any age. 20, 30, 40, etc.) And how would their lives be?:

    If Ash was in his mid 20's. I could see him growing out his hair a bit from not caring about cutting it.xD It'd be kind of messy too. Maybe even a small pony-tail in the back. And a bit of a 5 'oclock shadow.
    I could also see him being a bit muscular from those years of traveling and whatnot. And I could also see him being kind of chunky. Since he likes to eat. Kind of like a wrestlers body, ya' know? But not those overly buffy ones. The ones who are kind of chunky, a bit of a chubby stomach, but look like they can wrestle a bear in the forest.
    Like this I guess except the muscle's a bit smaller; http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/21060000...bb772d38cc.jpg (image doesn't belong to me)
    I don't know, I could see him being like that. I mean, if you were always traveling, you'd look something like that eventually.xD Plus, he's a pretty good climber.
    Yeahh, I know, it's random though. And it might just look like I'm fangirling, but from a realistic point of view, I really would imagine him looking like that.
    As for clothes? I couldn't see him wearing a hat anymore to be honest. I mean, it'd get annoying with all that hair. I think he'd only wear one if it was really sunny.
    Or maybe he'd wear a piece of cloth or something to help protect himself from the heat more. Sort of what like they do in deserts and whatnot.
    Something like this; http://www.gunmart.net/images/conten...s/22/big_a.jpg (Image doesn't belong to me)
    As for shoes, defiantly something good for traveling. I guess he'd choose something that goes over the ankles a bit, has laces and his clunky. Like ranger boots or construction boots.
    Pants? Maybe something simple like worn out jeans. That's another thing, I could see his clothes being worn out.xD
    I could also see him having a traveler's-like bag.
    Shirt? No clue. Maybe a t-shirt with a vest over it.
    And as a bonus, his Pokemon's!!!!
    I think Pikachu would remain a Pikachu. Pokemon's I think he's bring back; Sceptile, Lapras (I know it was released, but I could see it maybe coming back one day) and Charizard. Pokemon's I think he'd evolve; Gible into Garchomp. New Pokemon: Maybe a Lucario. I mean, he's been around a lot of them. So why not? Or Nidoking. Gwaaah I really don't know.xD
    As for personality? I could still see him being energetic, quick-tempered, out going, clumsy/goofy, stubborn, etc. I do think he'd mature a bit, but I think he'd always have his inner kid spirit with him forever!:3
    However, I do think he'd be more of a loner. Slightly. I think this because I think he'd want to travel more by himself along side his Pokemon's and nature. I think he'd aim to be beyond a Pokemon Master. Well, I think he'd reach that. But I think he'd want to connect with Pokemon and nature more. To be able to connect with Pokemon's a lot more. And to be able to understand the world's ancient secrets.
    And of course, go on wild and dangerous adventures! So that's why I could see him being alone a lot more. Because he wants to take on an adventure. And sure, it'd be nice to have company, but I could see him being a free spirit later on.

    May's turn!
    I could see her growing out her hair as well. Except, it'd be groomed of course.xD
    I could also see her wearing many different outfits and whatnot. Like, always being able to switch them. While Ash would be more with the wilderness, I think May would be more into the city life. Although, she'd also love a good adventure and travel the world! I could see her wanting to enjoy the glamour but also seeing the beauty the world can offer.
    I could also see her traveling alone, but I could also see her wanting to socialize with everyone while she's at whatever place she is. And then move on with the next city.
    Like, she wouldn't have someone tag alone her everywhere. I think she'd just make friends everywhere kind of thing.
    Oh! And I could defiantly see her being surrounded by crowds and whatnot. After all, she would be famous! (Well, so would Ash. But he`d avoid situations like that.xD)
    Personality; The same as before, but I think she'd mature a bit and appreciate her surroundings a lot more. And have her aware of a lot more.
    Pokemon team!!
    Pokemon she'd keep: Blaziken and Venusaur. New Pokemon's: Manaphy (yes, from the movie. I could see that one day, as she'd travel, she'd meet up with Manaphy. And Manaphy would ask May if he could come with her on her journey!), Altaria, Espeon (get's a new Eevee from her Glaceon and it evolved into an Espeon. Wasn't sure between Espeon or Vaporeon), and maybe Nidoqueen. I don't know.

    fhdsjfhdefhghguhfjhef man, these descriptions took me a while! I reallllllly had to think this one out!
    Also, Ahs`s age I described would be age 25 and May, 23.
    (If you guys ever want to use these descriptions for fanart or fics, feels free! Though, I don`t think anyone would.xD Buuuut meh, just to let everyone know who may be interested!)

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    How would Ash and May look if they were older? (Can be any age. 20, 30, 40, etc.) And how would their lives be?:

    Thought I would try this again. Since I tend to approach these types of questions from a writer's perspective, not a fan's perspective, I might have a different take on this. That being said, there isn't much of a reason to speculate on what they would look like when they are older. Traditionally, they have been written by most people to look very similar unless the story compels them to be different. The truth is that these particular questions can likely only be answered in the realm of fan-fiction, as the series itself has no interest in exploring this area at all. We may be able to speculate what May will look like through her parents, who did appear in the series, and natural inference from May herself, but Ash will likely be a complete mystery unless they do decide to introduce his father at some point.

    From a writer's perspective, the decision to age characters is never something that should be made lightly. This is true for a few reasons. For one, aging the characters means you can tell a different story. You may choose to tell a more adult story that can't be told if you keep them at ten years of age (one of A Day Inside May's most terrifying truths is that, while it's well-written, the characters are also children for unknown reasons). Most writers that age the characters tend to tell stories about them finding true, romantic love and perhaps committing to marriage, which is just something ten-year-olds aren't really thinking about and therefore can't be portrayed as realistically considering. There are a few flaws to this type of story, and it leads to my imaging what the characters' lives would be like. Most writers simply don't consider what has happened during the time skip. Their characters age, but nothing is thought of regarding how those years went. How much does ten years change someone? Twenty? Are you the same person now you were when you were ten? How have you changed in those years? Your characters should change as well, and make no mistake, they are your characters once you decide to write a story about them. You don't need to consider what happened in each day of their lives, but an overall plan of how they got to where they are at the point your story takes place should be considered. Some AU stories can get away with this flaw, as they have the characters meeting later in life, which is perfectly fine as the characterization will come naturally, but if you're choosing to completely follow the canon of the show (as I did, mostly) you must consider why Ash and May become the people they did in your story. How does that change them as people? How are you adding to their characters by changing them into adults?

    I'm not sure if I answered your question right, GloomyHaruka, but most of my responses tend to just be my musings about the genre of fan-fiction in it of itself. I tend not to be able to answer many questions.
    Zepther is not a perfect city, filled with crime and evil. Through its dark alleys and narrows streets, a silent watcher protects the people, calling forth the darkness of metal to defend them. Cloaked in black, shrouded in the mysteries of his past, his cold heart is true as steel. His name is Chronos. He is the Dark Eye.
    The legacy begins...

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    @Power Shot Not at all! I actually quite like reading through your responses. It may have not answered the question 100%, but I totally get what you mean.
    And I agree with you 100%. As in my description before, I mentioned how some of their personality traits remained the same. But a few aspects, such as life-styles, social lives, views on life, etc. have matured or changed.
    I find usually, people overdue certain aspects when they try to age a character though. Either making the character too serious or not having matured. And it's sad really. I mean, I know they're fictional. But from a writer's point of view, you'd have to treat that character like they're a real person.
    It's not just fics that do this, it's in general too.
    And another thing, as mentioned, these are your character's once you start using them. And sometimes, people do tend to stop character development because it wouldn't match along with show and whatnot.
    It's your character now, play around with it and mold it into a unique person. (As said previously, as long as it's not over done for fanservice. lol)
    I think if people pushed themselves harder to do this, this would create a much deeper emotional bound with the character.
    Like, there are some really good shows/books that you think to yourself, "wow, I feel so connected with this character". And that's my favourite part with any kind of book/manga/anime.
    Being connected with the character. It is hard to pull off though.xD
    But I have seen fics who keep it true to their original personality, but have managed to make me, the reader, connected to the character.
    Ahhh man, I'm sorry. I blab a lot.; u ;

    Oh oh oh, and I thought up of another topic! Though, I think it might have been already asked, and I don't know if it'll be as much fun as the last two. But here I go.; u ;

    If you were to put Ash and May in another world/story, which one would it be and why? (Can be TV shows, manga's, anime, books, fairy-tails, etc.):

    Yeah, what a generic question.xD Sorry!
    Anyway's, I'm pretty sure I've already answered this one somewhere else, but here I go;

    The original Sleeping Beauty: And no, I'm not talking about the Disney one. This one is a lot darker.
    Well, I don't think I'd be allowed to describe the story here, since it might go against forum rules. But I generally like darker tales. And to have Ash and May set in a very dark tale like this would be amazing. I do love Ash, don't get me wrong.xD But to have Ash do something like that to May, to have him be a cruel/sick guy would be an interesting take.
    I mean, we're so used to him being the hero. But to have him stoop that low, wow. I'd read the crap out of this. It'd be so interesting.

    Saya no Uta crossover: Ahahaha another dark one! Another one that may be inappropriate and dark. But basically, we'd have Ash go through a car crash and almost dying.
    Damages are very severe and doctors are forced to use a treatment they haven't fully tested yet. After the surgery, he'd wake up and be shocked to what he has awoken too.
    Everything would look and smell disgusting. Even taste! Everything would look like rotting flesh. And even noises/speech sounds horrifying.
    He's scarred out of his min, but has to pretend that everything's fine.
    So he deals with this for a couple of months, and, instead of Saya coming in, we'd have May. May would be the only thing that doesn't look like some rotting flesh-like creature.
    He has now found his ray of hope. But what is she exactly? Ahaha, won't spoil it for you guys!
    Anyway's, there's a lot more to it, and of course, some certain scenes which may not be allowed to be mentioned. But again, another great dark tale that I'd love to have them in!
    This would would have romance in it as well.
    And another thing, it'd be interesting to see how much of Ash's personality would change. How insane it'd eventually become. Seeing all of his old friends smelling, looking and sounding like these hideous flesh-like creatures.
    And to have May seem like a ray of light to this situation - but actually having her being something just as horrifying if not more.
    Just the thought of it creeps a smile on my face! There'd be so much potential with this!

    Yume Nikki crossover: In the game itself, you can only play as one character. But I thought of this when answering a topic on Bulba the other day - what if there was a Yume Nikki like crossover for this ship?
    Honestly, I think it'd be plain amazing. Of course, it'd have to be changed a bit.
    But in the game itself, it's about a girl who is trapped in her room. So the only thing she can really do is sleep and dream. In her dreams, she has to explore each world and collect these egg-shaped items called effects. Using these effects, she can further explore her dream world. Once she's collected them all, she places them all on the floor. Then well, I don't want to ruin the ending.
    Anyway's, it'd be an interesting idea if Ash and May were trapped in separate rooms, unable to get out or reach other.
    And the only way they could see each other is through their dreams. But here's the catch, they'd have to collect all the effects and search their dream world to find each other.
    I'd also personally add an extra catch. Since they're trapped in there, they have limited food. So of course, they have to find each other before they starve to death.
    Then, once they found all the effects, I'd make a bridge or something appear in their dreams and they'd finally reunite.
    But in real life - they're actually sleep walking.
    And have them walk out they're balcony (cause in the game, you could go on your balcony. But you can't jump off since it's too high) and we'll, you can guess the ending. I don't want to spoil the actual game ending as well.xD LOL.
    Anyway's, yeah. Another one I'd like too see! This one isn't as dark as the other two. But it's got a really sad, psychedelic and psychological feel too it.
    It'd be interesting to see or read! And to be able to manipulate the dream world to your desire would be an interesting take as well! Because there'd be no boundaries, they're dreaming.

    Evangelion: I just mainly want this because I'm a MEGAAAAAAAAA Evangelion fan. But, another thing, I'd love to see them have a psychological war with themselves.
    I think some sort of psychological breakdown would be nice. Evangelion or not, a psychological fic would reallllly be cool!
    Oh, but if someone did make this in a fic, I think IT'D BE FANTASTIC. Not only that, but they could really manipulate their pasts and actually make them effected by it.
    Especially Ash. In Evangelion, the main character, Shinji, was abandoned by his father. Perhaps someone could use that aspect for Ash as well - considering Ash's dad did technically leave them. I think they could totally make Ash in a same position as Shinji. It'd defiantly be interesting. To be confronted by his father, having an inner hatred towards him. Yet, wanting his approval.
    Wow, this would be cooooooooool!!! rfyhdhfyufywejdwd

    Ahaha and I guess that's all I can think of right now.; u ; (man, I think I wrote too much)

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    Powershot, your responses reminds me of LucifierIX on ff.net He writes the same way you do, well similar. Maybe you two might get along well together. XD

    How would Ash and May look if they were older? (Can be any age. 20, 30, 40, etc.) And how would their lives be?:

    Depends on your perspective of 'older' Some like to see a 20 year old all buff and hot while others see a 20 year old still acting like they were 17. To me, if I do write a story where I say "Ash is 20, May is 18" which I don't do that much of anymore I would make sure their appearance would look different in each story I write. Like for one I might make Ash 20 but he still acts like he is still 10 while in another he is cold, snobby and mean. Same rules apply to May or to any character really.

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    LuciferIX and I actually collaborated on the revival of my fan-fic, and his reviews more or less got me back into this game to finish up my story.

    When it comes to the actual appearance of the characters, I agree with what you brought up in the notion that the appearance should suit the type of story one tells. For instance, in a pure romance story, one might seek to make Ash lithe, because he does not need to be physically imposing to be in love, or to make him Fabio-esque with bulging muscles and long, rippling hair. Nonetheless, the appearance should suit what function the character plays in the story and their characterization. There's a great quote attributed to Matt Smith, who plays the Doctor on Doctor Who, that best summarizes this. He said that, originally, his version of the Doctor was going to look similar to a pirate with a long, black trench coat, so think Neo meets Jack Sparrow. He said that the costume "sounded like what someone would dress the Doctor in, but not how the Doctor would dress himself." This quote has always stuck with me, and I agree with it completely. You should always think about how the character would dress themselves or look if they themselves were in charge of their appearance given their circumstances in the story, and ignore your own opinions of what would "look cool." The characters come across as more real when they sound, look, and act like the author has sincerely taken the character's feelings into consideration.

    For instance, in my first story After Hoenn: The Journey of Faith, Ash and May look radically different than they do in PKM Rangers, specifically because they're different people. In the first story, Ash is scrappy and compact, specifically because he has been living a hard life in Orre that has slimmed him down while retaining a great deal of muscle because of his fights in underground battles with Pokémon. Similarly, May is portrayed as a battered woman would, with a weaker body and little self-esteem, because that's what the story required. Alternatively, Ash is designed to be heavier in PKM Rangers, with a tanned body, huge muscles, and a new, distinctive accent because the story required he be as different as possible from who he is in the series. May is tougher too, and it shows in how tough her face and body are. She might not be as muscular, but her portrayal has an inner strength that has made her the core of the story. In both examples, the characters are radically different, but their portrayals sit right with what they are going through in my narrative.
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    Really? Matt should really tell me these things! We also collab on a one-shot a year ago. He is such a good friend but he hasn't been reviewing much lately. Maybe he got lazy. xD

    Yes, I agree with you once more. In my stories I normally don't say to everyone "Hey, Ash is 20 and May is 19 and etc" I would normally write it once and completely forget about it or sometimes say that Ash has been travelling for X amount of years. I don't want people to read my stories thinking Ash and May are still ten because if I don't, why should they?

    I personally don't see Ash all buffy like his been living in a gym for his whole life but if my story requires Ash to have physical changes like gaining muscles then so be it. But at the same time I like to think "Does Ash want to see himself like this?" I mean this is a boy who is happy to wear a shirt and track pants. If your going to change his lifestyle at least have a damn good reason behind it. If not, don't even bother. Stay on the safe side until you are confident to change him or any other character.

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    If you were to put Ash and May in another world/story, which one would it be and why? (Can be TV shows, manga's, anime, books, fairy-tails, etc.)

    Kingdom Hearts Series

    Ash would he Sora, which makes sense because he's an innocent kid who loves to battle, which Sora does with his final Fantasy friends and Riku. Riku would be Paul. In the animé, Paul is so careless and unsocial. because he's friends with Ash in Destiny Islands, he'll have to be nicer than what you're used to. either way, it Paul fits with Riku's search for power, even if it means choosing darkness. and of course, they both have secret feelings for Kairi, a.k.a. May. so May would the most caring person you can imagine, but she'll be about 13, meaning, like Kairi, she'll possess some childish traits. maybe Ash, while in his journey, can have flashbacks of May and him, some funny, some warmhearted, some involving Paul, and some that make you believe in true love. instead of Keyblades, Ash (and Paul) will use Pokemon. no one in Destiny Islands has Pokémon, so when the island is being eaten by Heartless, Ash will see a sleeping Pikachu, and the mysterious voice from the beginning of the game will ask him if he has the strength to fight? the courage to stand for what is right? the will to overcome? Ash accepts by petting Pikachu, who awakens.
    the Heartless would still be in the fanfic, just because it's a bit ridiculous to make them all Pokémon. only the bosses would be Pokemon. they'd be similar to shadow Pokémon, meaning they would have shadow moves, some perhaps that are made up. when Ash arrives at Traverse Town, Donald would be Iris because she's so quick-tempered and she believes in mystical forces, so wizardry is right up her ally. I guess Goofy could be Brock, even though that means his character will be very different from the anime. for example, instead of wise and full of advice, he would be nonchalant and talk with an accent that people would interpret as assuming he's stupid, when he actually has his own kind of intelligence. Leon's crew could be made up of Gary as Leon, Dawn as Yuffie, Misty as Aerith, and Tracy as Sid. Leon is cool just by saying little to nothing, and he's strong, which makes sense for Gary. Yuffie, like Dawn, is very positive. Dawn would have to be more acrobatic than readers are used to. Aerith would be Misty, because Misty is the calmest girl in the animé when she's not being rowdy and tomboyish, meaning those 2 aforementioned traits would have to disposed of for this fic. I can definitely see Tracy being tech-savvy like Sid. plus, he's older than the others. instead of being nice like in the anime, he'll be rough n' tough, but still care about his friends. all of them, plus Iris and Brock, would have Pokémon. Iris' pokemon would specialize in Sp. Atk while Brock's Pokémon would specialize in Def. Ash could encounter new, wild Pokémon in the various worlds he enters, sometimes catching them, sometimes helping them (because if he catches all of them, then readers will see it coming the second each one is introduced). this may sound crazy, but it might make sense to keep the Disney villains and characters the way they are. there is no way you could replace them all with Pokémon characters. plus, it's a crossover, so maybe it's not so crazy. Queen Minnie and Daisy would be Delia Ketchum and Cilan, respectively. I'm not entirely sure if they're in the first game, so I'm doing it just in case. I chose Cilan for Daisy Duck solely because Iris is Donald Duck (I ship them). that duo could provide comic relief whenever the opportunity arises. I would make King Mickey a Sir Aaron look-alike. he's noble and powerful and already has the attire to rule a kingdom, so there's not much to change about him for this part. what about Giovanni? simple: he's Ansem.

    so in conclusion, Ash, Iris, and Brock will journey together, fighting Heartless and shadow Pokemon, meeting/catching new Pokemon, fighting alongside Disney characters to defeat their foes, encountering Paul from time to time, which is usually followed by emotional dialogue and fierce fighting, ultimately to save May and the Disney princesses and put a stop to Giovannni's dark plans.

    wow, I would love a fic like this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flamebeam View Post
    If you were to put Ash and May in another world/story, which one would it be and why? (Can be TV shows, manga's, anime, books, fairy-tails, etc.)

    Kingdom Hearts Series

    Ash would he Sora, which makes sense because he's an innocent kid who loves to battle, which Sora does with his final Fantasy friends and Riku. Riku would be Paul. In the animé, Paul is so careless and unsocial. because he's friends with Ash in Destiny Islands, he'll have to be nicer than what you're used to. either way, it Paul fits with Riku's search for power, even if it means choosing darkness. and of course, they both have secret feelings for Kairi, a.k.a. May. so May would the most caring person you can imagine, but she'll be about 13, meaning, like Kairi, she'll possess some childish traits. maybe Ash, while in his journey, can have flashbacks of May and him, some funny, some warmhearted, some involving Paul, and some that make you believe in true love. instead of Keyblades, Ash (and Paul) will use Pokemon. no one in Destiny Islands has Pokémon, so when the island is being eaten by Heartless, Ash will see a sleeping Pikachu, and the mysterious voice from the beginning of the game will ask him if he has the strength to fight? the courage to stand for what is right? the will to overcome? Ash accepts by petting Pikachu, who awakens.
    the Heartless would still be in the fanfic, just because it's a bit ridiculous to make them all Pokémon. only the bosses would be Pokemon. they'd be similar to shadow Pokémon, meaning they would have shadow moves, some perhaps that are made up. when Ash arrives at Traverse Town, Donald would be Iris because she's so quick-tempered and she believes in mystical forces, so wizardry is right up her ally. I guess Goofy could be Brock, even though that means his character will be very different from the anime. for example, instead of wise and full of advice, he would be nonchalant and talk with an accent that people would interpret as assuming he's stupid, when he actually has his own kind of intelligence. Leon's crew could be made up of Gary as Leon, Dawn as Yuffie, Misty as Aerith, and Tracy as Sid. Leon is cool just by saying little to nothing, and he's strong, which makes sense for Gary. Yuffie, like Dawn, is very positive. Dawn would have to be more acrobatic than readers are used to. Aerith would be Misty, because Misty is the calmest girl in the animé when she's not being rowdy and tomboyish, meaning those 2 aforementioned traits would have to disposed of for this fic. I can definitely see Tracy being tech-savvy like Sid. plus, he's older than the others. instead of being nice like in the anime, he'll be rough n' tough, but still care about his friends. all of them, plus Iris and Brock, would have Pokémon. Iris' pokemon would specialize in Sp. Atk while Brock's Pokémon would specialize in Def. Ash could encounter new, wild Pokémon in the various worlds he enters, sometimes catching them, sometimes helping them (because if he catches all of them, then readers will see it coming the second each one is introduced). this may sound crazy, but it might make sense to keep the Disney villains and characters the way they are. there is no way you could replace them all with Pokémon characters. plus, it's a crossover, so maybe it's not so crazy. Queen Minnie and Daisy would be Delia Ketchum and Cilan, respectively. I'm not entirely sure if they're in the first game, so I'm doing it just in case. I chose Cilan for Daisy Duck solely because Iris is Donald Duck (I ship them). that duo could provide comic relief whenever the opportunity arises. I would make King Mickey a Sir Aaron look-alike. he's noble and powerful and already has the attire to rule a kingdom, so there's not much to change about him for this part. what about Giovanni? simple: he's Ansem.

    so in conclusion, Ash, Iris, and Brock will journey together, fighting Heartless and shadow Pokemon, meeting/catching new Pokemon, fighting alongside Disney characters to defeat their foes, encountering Paul from time to time, which is usually followed by emotional dialogue and fierce fighting, ultimately to save May and the Disney princesses and put a stop to Giovannni's dark plans.

    wow, I would love a fic like this!
    That was such a wonderful idea it brought a tear to my eye. i would love to read that fic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by flamebeam View Post
    If you were to put Ash and May in another world/story, which one would it be and why? (Can be TV shows, manga's, anime, books, fairy-tails, etc.)

    Kingdom Hearts Series

    Ash would he Sora, which makes sense because he's an innocent kid who loves to battle, which Sora does with his final Fantasy friends and Riku. Riku would be Paul. In the animé, Paul is so careless and unsocial. because he's friends with Ash in Destiny Islands, he'll have to be nicer than what you're used to. either way, it Paul fits with Riku's search for power, even if it means choosing darkness. and of course, they both have secret feelings for Kairi, a.k.a. May. so May would the most caring person you can imagine, but she'll be about 13, meaning, like Kairi, she'll possess some childish traits. maybe Ash, while in his journey, can have flashbacks of May and him, some funny, some warmhearted, some involving Paul, and some that make you believe in true love. instead of Keyblades, Ash (and Paul) will use Pokemon. no one in Destiny Islands has Pokémon, so when the island is being eaten by Heartless, Ash will see a sleeping Pikachu, and the mysterious voice from the beginning of the game will ask him if he has the strength to fight? the courage to stand for what is right? the will to overcome? Ash accepts by petting Pikachu, who awakens.
    the Heartless would still be in the fanfic, just because it's a bit ridiculous to make them all Pokémon. only the bosses would be Pokemon. they'd be similar to shadow Pokémon, meaning they would have shadow moves, some perhaps that are made up. when Ash arrives at Traverse Town, Donald would be Iris because she's so quick-tempered and she believes in mystical forces, so wizardry is right up her ally. I guess Goofy could be Brock, even though that means his character will be very different from the anime. for example, instead of wise and full of advice, he would be nonchalant and talk with an accent that people would interpret as assuming he's stupid, when he actually has his own kind of intelligence. Leon's crew could be made up of Gary as Leon, Dawn as Yuffie, Misty as Aerith, and Tracy as Sid. Leon is cool just by saying little to nothing, and he's strong, which makes sense for Gary. Yuffie, like Dawn, is very positive. Dawn would have to be more acrobatic than readers are used to. Aerith would be Misty, because Misty is the calmest girl in the animé when she's not being rowdy and tomboyish, meaning those 2 aforementioned traits would have to disposed of for this fic. I can definitely see Tracy being tech-savvy like Sid. plus, he's older than the others. instead of being nice like in the anime, he'll be rough n' tough, but still care about his friends. all of them, plus Iris and Brock, would have Pokémon. Iris' pokemon would specialize in Sp. Atk while Brock's Pokémon would specialize in Def. Ash could encounter new, wild Pokémon in the various worlds he enters, sometimes catching them, sometimes helping them (because if he catches all of them, then readers will see it coming the second each one is introduced). this may sound crazy, but it might make sense to keep the Disney villains and characters the way they are. there is no way you could replace them all with Pokémon characters. plus, it's a crossover, so maybe it's not so crazy. Queen Minnie and Daisy would be Delia Ketchum and Cilan, respectively. I'm not entirely sure if they're in the first game, so I'm doing it just in case. I chose Cilan for Daisy Duck solely because Iris is Donald Duck (I ship them). that duo could provide comic relief whenever the opportunity arises. I would make King Mickey a Sir Aaron look-alike. he's noble and powerful and already has the attire to rule a kingdom, so there's not much to change about him for this part. what about Giovanni? simple: he's Ansem.

    so in conclusion, Ash, Iris, and Brock will journey together, fighting Heartless and shadow Pokemon, meeting/catching new Pokemon, fighting alongside Disney characters to defeat their foes, encountering Paul from time to time, which is usually followed by emotional dialogue and fierce fighting, ultimately to save May and the Disney princesses and put a stop to Giovannni's dark plans.

    wow, I would love a fic like this!
    Well damn, that sounds really good. XD But maybe change the role of Goofy from Brock to Cameron since he is a clumsy character. It would fit the role much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikatoshi26 View Post
    That was such a wonderful idea it brought a tear to my eye. i would love to read that fic.
    thanks for the praise. I know, it would be such a good read

    Quote Originally Posted by midnightjewelz View Post
    Well damn, that sounds really good. XD But maybe change the role of Goofy from Brock to Cameron since he is a clumsy character. It would fit the role much better.
    I don't recall a “Cameron". is that a BW character, because I'm 7 months behind the dubbed anime (so like a year for the anime in Japan)? well if he is, then I'd rather not hear the details since I don't like spoilers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power Shot View Post
    LuciferIX and I actually collaborated on the revival of my fan-fic, and his reviews more or less got me back into this game to finish up my story.

    When it comes to the actual appearance of the characters, I agree with what you brought up in the notion that the appearance should suit the type of story one tells. For instance, in a pure romance story, one might seek to make Ash lithe, because he does not need to be physically imposing to be in love, or to make him Fabio-esque with bulging muscles and long, rippling hair. Nonetheless, the appearance should suit what function the character plays in the story and their characterization. There's a great quote attributed to Matt Smith, who plays the Doctor on Doctor Who, that best summarizes this. He said that, originally, his version of the Doctor was going to look similar to a pirate with a long, black trench coat, so think Neo meets Jack Sparrow. He said that the costume "sounded like what someone would dress the Doctor in, but not how the Doctor would dress himself." This quote has always stuck with me, and I agree with it completely. You should always think about how the character would dress themselves or look if they themselves were in charge of their appearance given their circumstances in the story, and ignore your own opinions of what would "look cool." The characters come across as more real when they sound, look, and act like the author has sincerely taken the character's feelings into consideration.

    For instance, in my first story After Hoenn: The Journey of Faith, Ash and May look radically different than they do in PKM Rangers, specifically because they're different people. In the first story, Ash is scrappy and compact, specifically because he has been living a hard life in Orre that has slimmed him down while retaining a great deal of muscle because of his fights in underground battles with Pokémon. Similarly, May is portrayed as a battered woman would, with a weaker body and little self-esteem, because that's what the story required. Alternatively, Ash is designed to be heavier in PKM Rangers, with a tanned body, huge muscles, and a new, distinctive accent because the story required he be as different as possible from who he is in the series. May is tougher too, and it shows in how tough her face and body are. She might not be as muscular, but her portrayal has an inner strength that has made her the core of the story. In both examples, the characters are radically different, but their portrayals sit right with what they are going through in my narrative.
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    If you were to put Ash and May in another world/story, which one would it be and why? (Can be TV shows, manga's, anime, books, fairy-tails, etc.)

    This is difficult. I think them in a Shawn of the Dead-esque movie would be funny.

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    @flamebeam: Yes, Cameron is a BW character. He shows up in the league. If you do ever do want to catch up and see him, you'll see he'll fit into the role of Goofy quite well.

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    If you were to put Ash and May in another world/story, which one would it be and why? (Can be TV shows, manga's, anime, books, fairy-tails, etc.)

    Maybe Middle Earth, that'd be awesome.

    Ash could be a wizard that uses electric powers stuff and May could be an elf.

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    If you were to put Ash and May in another world/story, which one would it be and why? (Can be TV shows, manga's, anime, books, fairy-tails, etc.)

    Call me crazy, but I think that they could fit into Sonic the Hedgehog. You can guess who I'd say Ash would be, and May would be Amy. She wouldn't be a crazy stalker, but maybe she could follow Ash around the Regions because she loves him. I know it's a bit of a crappy comparison, but could work if it was pulled off right. To be honest, I think that it could be quite a funny combo if it was made to be lighthearted.

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