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    It's time I started getting back into the discussions!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinySandshrew View Post
    1.) What are some of your favorite Christmas traditions that you have at your house?
    Some of my favorite traditions are those like putting up the Christmas tree with my family every year. Once we start putting up the tree, we start listening to our assortment of Christmas CDs, by people like Manheim Steamroller, Elvis Presley, the Disney characters, and even an Irish one which I love. We also make things like fudge and candied pecans around Christmastime. On Christmas Eve, we visit my mom's family for supper and sharing gifts. On Christmas day, we visit my mom's extended family for lunch and then my dad's family for supper. Visiting family is my favorite part of our traditions, which is why I absolutely love this period of time from Thanksgiving to New Years (since we visit family on those holidays too).

    2.) Do you think society (in America primarily, but in other places too) has become less willing to openly celebrate or promote Christmas?
    I think that America is increasingly trying to draw a line between the secular Christmas and the Christian Christmas with an obvious preference to the secular Christmas. Many people in America don't seem to mind Christmas itself (although they'd prefer to just say "Happy Holidays" or "Season's Greetings" instead), but it's the "Christ" part of "Christmas" that is becoming increasingly censored in America. I think this is plainly seen when you see stuff going on like these recent protests against the showing of the Charlie Brown Christmas movie, which contains the Luke 2 Christmas story.

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    What is your opinion on studying other religions (from a scholarly standpoint)?
    I think that studying other religions can be a very good thing from both a scholarly standpoint and the standpoint of an evangelist. After all, it is usually far easier to witness to an unbeliever if we have a good grasp of where they are coming from in the discussion. However, there should always be a certain level of discernment when studying other religions as well. I have seen several people that I know compromise on Christianity because they felt it was suitable to conform aspects of another religion into their own beliefs, and that sort of compromise is something that we should try to avoid.

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    Also, there's been something weighing on my mind lately.... I know God will always accept me as long as I have accepted Christ as my savior, but... sometimes I feel like God deserves better than what the world as a whole has been doing. I know a lot of people think this, but it leads me to this: I sometimes think it's my responsibility to bring people to Christ regardless of if they're willing or not. I know that Christianity cannot be true without true love for God, but I can't help but think about God's pain he feels for all the unsaved. This may not sound like a sin, but it brings me to this situation:

    My friend Brandon from another forum was always a nice, relaxed guy, but he was not a follower of any religions. I'd tried to bring Christ into the chat many times, not to much avail. But one day, Brandon told me he'd went to church for the first time and loved it. Shortly afterward he accepted Christ. This is wonderful, but for a while I felt like I took the credit for his salvation, when all credit was due to Christ.

    Anyone ever feel like this? Sorry if it's kind of poorly thrown-together, I'm not the best with eloquent wording.
    I think I get what you mean. Sometimes we feel like are witnessing to unbelievers is the deciding factor as to whether or not they come to Christ. If an unbeliever gets saved after we have talked to them, we sometimes feel like it was to our credit. Likewise, if someone refuses to come to Christ, we often feel like it was our fault for not being a good enough evangelist. However, the Bible does offer an answer to this. Ephesians 2:1 states that "As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins," meaning that an unbeliever is spiritually a dead man walking. A dead man cannot raise himself from the dead. Just like Lazarus, the spiritually dead are reliant upon God for that new life. This is actually quite comforting to know since if your evangelism fails to convert someone, it is not necessarily because you are a bad evangelist, but because they are actively rejecting the Holy Spirit. However, if your evangelism is successful, you know that it's because that person's heart was open to God's calling. While evangelism tools and apologetic arguments are always great to have (and we have been called to be witnesses to everyone), it is always important to remember that the state of a person's heart is ultimately a matter between them and God, and it is outside of our power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinySandshrew View Post
    1.) What are some of your favorite Christmas traditions that you have at your house?
    2.) Do you think society (in America primarily, but in other places too) has become less willing to openly celebrate or promote Christmas?
    1.) Well, every year, my dad and I put up the Christmas tree together (it looks the same every year, because my dad is awesome at decorating trees. Me...not so much). We always tie it to the ceiling because our cats have a little tradition of their own: Try to climb it. We also always open one present on Christmas Eve night. I think this year I'll be opening one of the books I bought for myself for Christmas (I wanted to get my dad a book, but I couldn't afford it. That book is $300 American, and I only had about $18 American left on my Book Account at school, so I bought these "scary story" books I had as a little girl that got ruined in a move a few years ago). We usually go to my Uncle Philliup's house for Christmas (we do that on Thanksgiving, too) and my Uncle Ernie (who is a Reverend and Vietnam Vet (he was one of those Dog Scout guys--you know, the kind they drop out in the middle of the jungle with nothing but a gun and a dog?).) reads the story of the Nativity. I always cry, and I don't know why. Then, we always say our Christmas Prayer, where we thank God for sending his only begotten son into the world so that we could be saved. We then have a big ham dinner, exchange gifts, take pictures, then go home.

    2.) Not so sure how to answer this. Everyone loves Christmas--even my best friend during High School (she was an atheist. I often worry about her, because after High School, she just sort of dropped off the face of the Earth. No one knows where she is--not even her brother. I asked him), but I see a lot of prejudice against Christians (I mean, go take a look around Youtube; you'd be surprised at the amount of "Christians are teh stoopid! No body beleeves in ur skydaddy, idoits!" comments you see. It really is frustrating).

    Also, I can't believe that people are getting their panties all in a bunch over Charlie Brown Christmas! Wait, scratch that--you never see the old claymation Christmas Special "Little Drummer Boy" on TV any more. What's wrong with that? If you don't want to watch something, then you can always change the channel. It's what I do when sports come on. We should have the freedom to have Christmas specials that are, you know, actually about Christmas. It's not all Santa Claus, people. Sorry if I got a little fussy, this is just one of the things that irks me.

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    I'm glad to see that this place is finally becoming more active. I'll be able to post here more after I finish up next week.

    I'd like to welcome all the new members. I hope your time here is enjoyable and beneficial. =) CJ14 and Nemmeh, it's good to have you guys back. It's been awhile. =P

    And I'll get around to updating the memberlist at some point. That thing is so out of date...I'll try to be more on top of it.

    1) What are some of your favorite Christmas traditions that you have at your house?

    Well other than the obvious (decorating a tree, putting up outdoor lights, exchanging gifts) we've made the tradition of spending Christmas Eve with my grandfather and aunt. We go to a nice restaurant then return to his house to exchange gifts. Afterwards, we go to my church for the Christmas Eve service. One silly little tradition we children (ironically three of five are adults. lol) have is sleeping by the tree the night before. I'm not sure how long ago this started but it just kinda caught on. We never believed in Santa so I don't even know what the purpose is. =P Oh! We also watch a few Christmas movies before we fall asleep. One of them is Little Drummer Boy. We don't necessarily like it, but we watch it just cause we think it's really creepy. lol

    2) Do you think society (in America primarily, but in other places too) has become less willing to openly celebrate or promote Christmas?

    I don't think so, with regards to the secular side Christmas. I know people try to be politically correct by saying "happy holidays" but it still seems like there's more promoting of the jolly fat guy than there is condemning. Might just be a locality for me but almost everyone I know celebrates it in one way or another. =/

    I do agree that a lot of people are trying to suppress the "Christ" part of Christmas. The nation is becoming more hardened towards Christianity and they just don't want to accept the true meaning of the holiday cause it makes them uncomfortable. I didn't know about the Charlie Brown protests but that's really upsetting. It has the right to be shown just as much as any other Christmas film is shown. This kind of stuff annoys me since the movie has been around for so long and it's really silly to see that people are only just now getting offended by it. And they call us intolerant...

    3)What is your opinion on studying other religions (from a scholarly standpoint)?

    I definitely think it's a good idea. It gives you a better understanding of what others believe and can clear up any misconceptions you once had. To reiterate what JF said, study other religions with caution. Remember to keep sight of what you know is the truth and not to falter.

    Edit: Posting for a prayer request. Those of you in the US have probably heard of this story but if you haven't: Earlier a gunman went into an elementary school in Connecticut and killed 27 people (20 of which were young children). The specific details are located in this news article. It's extremely upsetting to hear about. I'd like to ask you all to be praying for the people and families affected by this.
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    So I know most of you by now have heard the news.
    26-28 people got shot and killed at an elementary school the other day.
    And most of them were CHILDREN...SMH...

    What do you guys make of the mass shooting in Newtown, Connecticut??
    To me it just seems like the US is progressively becoming more morally bankrupt, it's sickening.
    You know, I don't see how people in the secular world can get so worked up over something like that when their morality and logic is decided by
    the doctrine of situational ethics, or an alleged evolved, enlightened, progression of self-interest.
    People will justify anything and any possible way for everyone to need guns and whatnot...

    I dunno...It's just...In our culture where truth is 'relative' everything's 'subjective' and people don't abide with absolute morals or absolute truth of any kind, you can basically find a way to justify anything, even murder if it benefits your own self interests. And even with that, with that kind of worldview you wouldn't even need to be accountable for anything. Such arbitrary ideals are just so unorganized, meaningless, and disheartening for me to hear...

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    Personally, I feel that everyone has a right to own guns. I love guns and have owned several over the years. To me, blaming guns for killing someone is fallacious reasoning. Guns don't kill people, psychos do. Even if you were to remove the ability to LEGALLY purchase guns (like I do) criminals would STILL get them, and then the honest, law-abiding people like myself wouldn't have guns. They could shoot us without fear of us opening fire back.

    I blame shootings on the crap (excuse my language) state of Mental Healthcare in this country. You have people who are DANGEROUSLY insane wandering around and they only put them away once they hurt someone. They need a better way to screen for this, starting in elementary school, as most of the really dangerous mental health problems (like schizophrenia, for instance) begin to manifest in childhood. If they can get those people off the streets, then there will be less of this. It is not the guns' fault--it is the crazy people.

    You can say I'm rationalizing this away, but I am not afraid to kill someone if I have to--if they are trying to kill me or my family, I WILL defend myself. Jesus says to turn the other cheek, but he doesn't want us to stand there like an idiot and get killed, either.

    Sorry to bring up gun control and the state of mental health care, but Jared brought it up before me.

    There is something that I have been wanting to talk about on here for a while, but...I'm a little scared of what you all would think of me...
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    Can I join? This is my first post in this forum. I'm from Madrid, Spain. In my country, 80% of people are catholics, but I'm protestant. This is so rare here... However, I usually go to catholic churchs, and my family is catholic, but I have a different ideology. I think protestants and catholics should be more united because We read the same book, the Bible, and believe in Christ. I'm 16 years old and I believe in God, but most of my friends don't believe. Personally, I can't explain the Universe without God, so He is very important in my life. Sorry for my bad English, and I would like to talk with you about Christianity. Oh! I like Pokemon very much!

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    I'm three hours early here in Georgia, but I'm not likely to be online at all tomorrow, so merry Christmas everyone. Here's to many more.

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    Welcome to the club, CCT! I hope you'll enjoy your stay here. =) This club is a nice mixture of Protestants and Catholics so it's more or less what you've described: us being united since we share the same Savior. There are definitely things we don't agree on, but they don't come up very often.

    CJ14 and Nemmeh: I agree with what both of you have said. Don't really have much to say at this moment but if you guys would like to discuss it further we can.

    Nemmeh: feel free to bring it up. I don't think anyone would have a problem with it. Although, if you're really concerned, feel free to pm me the topic you wanted to discuss and I can help decide if it'd be good to bring it up or not.

    Anyway, Merry Christmas everyone! I hope you each one of you has a wonderful time with family and friends celebrating the birth of our Savior Jesus Christ. =)
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    Merry Christmas, everyone! Hope you all have a great day on this, the Holiest Day of the Year.

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    Thank you, Pikawho, I wish you merry Christmas, and merry Chrismas to the rest of people. It's a very important day for us. My best wishes, CCT.


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    Merry Christmas everyone!! Have a wonderful day and remember to stop and thank Jesus!

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    Hope everyone here is having a blessed Christmas day! I got some really good books, and some Pokémon cards. I was very glad to (with my brothers) get a copy of White Version 2 for a friend. I even allowed this friend to borrow my copy a few days earlier. (I think because of this he suspected absolutely nothing!)
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    Just wanted to wish all the members of the Christian Alliance a safe, blessed, and Happy New Year in 2013.

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    Also, I can't believe that people are getting their panties all in a bunch over Charlie Brown Christmas! Wait, scratch that--you never see the old claymation Christmas Special "Little Drummer Boy" on TV any more. What's wrong with that? If you don't want to watch something, then you can always change the channel. It's what I do when sports come on. We should have the freedom to have Christmas specials that are, you know, actually about Christmas. It's not all Santa Claus, people. Sorry if I got a little fussy, this is just one of the things that irks me.
    What's wrong with A Charlie Brown Christmas? It's produced by a private company, broadcast over a privately owned network. The people who own the network and the people who own Peanuts have freedom of speech, don't they? Even if someone disagrees with the special, said person should respect the owner's rights.

    P.S. The Little Drummer Boy used stop motion, but it wasn't claymation; it was armature animation. O.K. pointless technical comment out of the way.
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    Hi all, can I join? Looking forward to some great debates.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Matoro View Post
    Hi all, can I join? Looking forward to some great debates.
    Well, we leave the debates to the debate forum (we used to allow stuff kinda like that, but it caused some problems, so meh), but if you're a Christian who loves to talk about Jesus then welcome! ^_^

    Feel free to create a discussion topic if you'd like. We haven't had a ton of activity lately, and I forgot the discussion idea I had the other day, lol.
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    Piggybacking on the later portion of what Matoro said,

    Lately I've been having a greater interest to defend the faith.
    Not just for the sake of arguing, but to have a better understanding of the Christian mind.
    I want to have a better understanding of my Christian worldview.
    Learning how to address those big questions like, "What does it mean to have a Christian mind?"
    Or "What are the basics, or the foundational beliefs of the Christian worldview?"

    I've read some really great stuff, and it's like I have a craving for more.

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    Not sure if there's like a "question of the week" or anything, but if there isn't, then I'll put this out there for discussion.

    "Can we disagree and still be faithful Christians?"

    Wat u think?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Matoro View Post
    "Can we disagree and still be faithful Christians?"
    Could you please elaborate?

    My memory escapes me. Do we have any Ted Dekker fans in the club? I really need to discuss The Circle, more specifically Green, with someone who's read all four books.

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